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1201  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much return are we expecting next bull run? on: April 01, 2023, 09:03:53 PM
Good start as today price is up more than 5% and could go back from $26k to $28k, still about 2 more days to see price can reach $30k, and if tomorrow price can reach $29k then i believe march will be closed in the range of $ 30k, and of course it will be an important for stating April so that it can skyrocket again like what happened in 2021.

I think the next bull run will be the best one and beyond our imaginations. The reason is that we are now seriously seeing the drawbacks of the current financial system and the world needs to adopt bitcoin and accept it as a world global currency.
We have seen some crazy predictions recently like this one Can Bitcoin reach $1 million in 90 days? Expert analyzes Balaji’s forecast. Although you can argue that these predictions never come true but things are unfolding in such ways that we can expect bitcoin reach to $1million, not in 90 days but it is very much possible by the end of 2024/25.

Honestly, I really want that to happen because if bitcoin can hit $1 million next bull season, I will retire early and enjoy my life. But I think we should be more realistic, that's no longer an optimism but an illusion. The banking system is in serious trouble, but it's only a small fraction of the millions of banks in the world, so the banking crisis won't take a huge hit for bitcoin. The banking system will be repaired and will still be the choice of most people, bitcoin is unlikely to replace the traditional financial system in the near future.

Yes, that will be a good price for everyone, but lets not kid ourselves, $1 million is out of the picture of the next bull run, and we will have to still wait and not retire early in our lives and enjoy our profits. Although the banking system is in trouble right now, it might not be enough to push for a 7 digit price next bull run. Conservative estimates will be $100k as the entry level and as high as $150k. I think that's good enough price for everyone. Specially if we are still saving as much as we can, whether dollar cost average (DCA), or buy when we have that money in bulk, one time.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue - WBC and WBO 122 lbs bout - May on: April 01, 2023, 08:47:34 PM
The last time I see Inoue having a good fight was the time he first encountered Nonito Donaire.
I hope Fulton will also able to give Inoue a tough fight to the point that we can't even predict and speculate who will win until the final bell rangs.

I think Fulton will still have the confident because this is his division and he has fought a lot of good fighters too. Specially against Brandon Figueroa who is one good volume puncher with decent power as well. And I thought that in some moments in that fight, he will go down from the barrage of punches from Figueroa, but he withstand it and won the fight. So most likely his chin will be tested by Inoue obviously but perhaps Fulton thinks that it wont' break as he has experience fighting punchers in this division and he hasn't been knockdown. But it will be tough fight for him as he will travel to Japan, Inoue, home court.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3) on: April 01, 2023, 08:23:54 PM
One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

That should be the goal, Casimero making an impressive win that even it's a non-title fight, he is really dominant and overpowering his opponent.

Yes, even if this is a non tittle fight, Casimero should not only impressed his fans, but everyone in the division, to at least show that he is someone to be another fighter that shouldn't be overlook as there are a lot of great boxers in this division.

Look at what happened to his fight against Akaho. That fight wasn't even special and hype before the actual day of the match. But with how Casimero performed on that fight, making Akaho a joke, he is, no doubt got the attentio of the boxing community.

If Casimero will turned this upcoming fight of him into something spectacular and 100% shows being domimant at most part of the match, I'm sure he will again be recognize and might be consider for a good deal on his next match.

He started slow in that fight, but when he got his rhythm, Akaho knows that he can't take fight and just took a dive. If he just try to be as competitive as other boxers that Casimero has fought, he could have made it a fight. But for sure, he will get KO by Casimero and in his first fight at 122 lbs could be impressive. But this is another opportunity for John Riel again and dominate his opponent and go for a KO win against Nghitumbwa.
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: April 01, 2023, 12:49:09 PM
I have a feeling that the western conference ranked 4, 5, 6, and 7 might be more difficult to beat during the playoffs. These teams are not just capable but they are well-experienced teams with playoffs veterans that can remain composed during the toughest games and clutch times.

Poor Dallas Mavericks, I want them at least inside the top 10. This might be the most stacked year in the west. Although I did notice since I was a kid that the western conference is always with better win-loss teams than the east.
5 more games left for them. I am not in a worry yet because they can really win if they wanted to, all they need is to push harder. It seems like Doncic and Kyrie's chemistry doesn't work so Coach Kidd should find a way for flexible minutes. Luka loved handling the ball for a long time and so does Kyrie. The other player is just standing there watching while the other is doing his work. Not right, unlike other teams where the other star keeps on moving.
i.e. Warriors Steph doesn't stop running if Klay or Poole has the ball.

I love the New York Knicks somehow finding a way to steal a win against the strong Cavaliers in their home and without Julius Randle.
Jalen Brunson, 48 monster points! Is he really that small? Grin Who else can score that much at 6'1?!

Yes, I thought that the favorite Cavs are going to win this match, as the Knicks doesn't have Randle in the lineup.

But Brunson carry the team and had one of those games that he no one can stop him, probably the Mavs are kicking themselves for letting Brunson. Although they got Kyrie, it was very different when Luka and Brunson play.

Anyhow, not sure what the Mavs will do with their current roster because it's evident that they need to change something to be competitive again.
1205  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why is it that is bitcoin is first in thought in mind in cryptocurrency on: March 31, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
First time I heard about crypto bitcoin was what was introduced to me that was way back 2015 the news kept spreading across the global crypto market and everyone seems to believe in their stock even at the worse point if you ask them why not in pains about your coin most of my friends will be like yes I’m in pain but I have to leave the money in the wallet that it will multiply x2 I will be like why are you so comfortable that it will get back he said to me that he have invested so many times and have not experienced loss “my questions “ is this possible and I made research I found out that is other crypto coins why is it that is only bitcoin that is more recognized in the crypto world is it because of the ceos or the. First in crypto currency’s. I want to know why is only Bitcoin in the limelight I have someone that wants to invest in crypto but wants to invest in other coins he wants to know if other are same values as bitcoin and if other coins can be easily be exchanged or sell  or for purchases.

Simply because it's the prime mover, the first crypto to be released, and so it gained a lot of attention early and with that, it has grown tremendously in the last 10 years or so. And not just in crypto, I mean in all facet of business, if you are the first one to invent something unique they you will have the full advantage and although there are a lot of crypto now, no project can replicate what Satoshi did and his invention. It was so unique that no one has thought about it before although there are a lot of precedence about crypto and his Bitcoin.
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 31, 2023, 08:29:26 PM
How about the games tomorrow?

It's only 2 games but 1 of them is a must see battle, it's between the Bucks and the Celtics. Holiday just had a huge game against the Pacers with 51 points, (not sure if this is his career though). I'm still not decided as to who to beat on this game.

On the other game, it's the Nuggets vs the Pelicans, I might go with the Nuggets here at handicap.

-5.5 @ 1.82 not bad for the handicap if Nuggets will play solid, but I think it can be covered unless Denver will rest their core starters or they will play soft and let NOP snatch the game from them,.

Oh well, I might follow you, but let me check it during a live game before placing my bet,
chances of resting players might happen here.


It was a trapped mate, however, I did bet early and before the game starts, I check the odds and there was a sudden shift as it become as low as 0-5 to 1.5 for the Nuggets and I was surprised by the moved.

And then I watch the game it was announcement that Jokic is not going to play.

But I'm still thinking that they can still cover the spread, but in the first quarter alone, the Nuggets shoot poorly and then I know that my bet is lost already.

That's why sometimes it's better to bet live, or at least after the kick-off so that we will see who's going to play and adjust our bets.

Just like it was a trap for the Bucks backers as well, because they see Giannis, and also Khris Middleton playing and thinking that it could have been a good beat for the Bucks -1.5 because it's their home court.

But the Celtics just took off and established a big lead and never look back and Giannis can't do anything about it.
1207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: effect of bitcoin on institutions and global economy on: March 31, 2023, 08:05:40 PM
[a thought] i was paying my electricity bill and my bank server was down at night. this happens to me many times becuase i mostly free on night to pay bills and all .
and i thought of bitcoin, the bitcoin is never down to make payments (of course easy for who accepts bitcoin as payments)

Been paying my bills using my bitcoin, not all the time, but if I see that it is more beneficial then I used it as a form of money, although not direct p2p as the electric company will have to used a 3rd party, but still though it's good to see bitcoin being used as what it is design initially by Satoshi, as a payment scheme.

As store of value? we already have government doing it right now. And even Elon Musk and his company Tesla has put it as a reserved although they have to sell at least 75% of it and reported to have lost money. So gonna be hard for some institutions to used it a hedge unless they will have to understand the economics if it, bear and bull market and other factors.
1208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Skill Based Slot Machines on: March 31, 2023, 07:43:14 PM
I've never tried skill-based slot machines (never even knew they existed until today), but it does sound quite interesting. It actually does add an extra layer of excitement compared to traditional slots, as you can have some control over the outcome during bonus rounds and be more active when playing slot games. However, I am pretty much sure that the house still has an edge, so the odds aren't really in your favor and there are some sort of lucks involved in those games, or else skilled player could make those casinos go bankrupt. As for which I  would prefer, I'd say it depends on how I am feeling and what I want. If I'm looking for a more interactive experience and be more involved in the game, I'd go for skill-based slots. But if I just want to relax and try my luck, traditional slots would be more appealing.

Probably that will be one reason that it will be welcome, because there is some excitement as compare to traditional based slot machines, although I must say that traditional is also very exciting but addicted as well.

Just search this skill based game,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCkl-Fhs200

It's a brick sort of games, so yeah you need some skills if you want to make money in this kind of games.
1209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Crypto Marketet Is Dumping Drastically !! on: March 30, 2023, 08:05:37 PM
I'm just looking at the date of this thread, and it seems that it was open during the bear market in 2018. So yeah we all have our speculations as to why the price is going down or why people are dumping. And it's true, it's bear market again last year and the price really plummeted hard, but it seems that this year, at the beginning, the price is on a sustainable run. We've seen the worst last year for bitcoin at $15,500 and now we are almost doubling that price at $28k. So there could be many reasons for the dumping but for this year, for me this is already a recovery year and then next year will be the bull run.
1210  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for March on: March 30, 2023, 07:43:20 PM
The month of march has almost been passed and the price of bitcoin Cross 25k$ and now it is up from 28k$. So the price of bitcoin for the month of march was very profitable and we hope they in remaining one day it will be increase but there is no guarantee that it will decrease or increase because the market has no trust for a second.

But it's now on the $27,800, I don't know what's with that $28,500 because once we get to that price, it will go down immediately. Maybe the resistance for traders are too big and we are not going over that price mark at the end of the month.

The month of march shows positive results for its holders and remain very lucky and successful month for all bitcoin holders. Estimation sometimes become difficult so we can only see the present worth but cannot say anything about future and as we see that the price is still high in the end of this month so it is hoping that it will attain greater value than current value.

Yes, when we thought that it will be negative, the month turns out to be one of the best in the first 3 months. It will be January for the best month and then followed by March. And we will be very positive now this coming April and maybe, that barrier can be broken and we will go to $30k finally next month.

You're right, that $28,500 is just like $25k at the end of February or early March. There is too much of that barrier that it seems we can't get over that hump. And if I'm not mistaken, it too us like 4x attempt to break the price. So could be possible for that $28k-$30k barrier and this could only be accomplished in another month or so. Just stay calm next month, for me if there is no negative news, we are going to be very bullish again and I'm seeing like $32k could be the next significant number for the month of April. And for sure, our OP will have another thread that we can discussed and then go back to see how it goes.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3) on: March 30, 2023, 07:01:48 PM

Very interesting that it will be just 2 months before this fight, maybe it was a rush for Casimero to have a dancing partner because they need to rush things right now in his career. But I do agree that he needs to get busy and that his new promoter found someone that is willing to fight one of the hardest puncher in this division. For me it's better not to get ahead of himself and talk about Inoue again. Just go and fight and win and then later maybe he will be given the rights to face the Japanese monster. I think that is the smartest thing to do right now for him. Focus one fight at a time.

His team should focus on Casimero to have another title crack and become champion again, the Akaho fight is quite disappointing although there was an overturn of the decision Casimero is a very talented boxer and he is the frontrunner of Filipino boxers, many are still following his career because he is very brave and he never back out from any fighter that includes Inoue.
This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero but however easy it may seem he should impress the boxing community, as they say, a boxer is only good in his last fight if he can win impressively like an early knockout, boxing organizations may line him up for title crack.

That Akaho fight is very disappointed for us and for Casimero, I mean if Akaho decided to continue to fight then we will see Casimero's beast unleashed again and maybe he will really win by knockout. But Akaho robbed us when he quit and although the ruling has overturn, it leave a bad taste for us fans.

I don't think ti's going to be an easy fight, Nghitumbwa has noting to lose in this fight, so most likely he will go with everything he got and test Casimero. And if Casimero bring back than brandish style of his, we might see another knockout performance as he is known when he was a 118 lbs champion.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: March 30, 2023, 12:42:49 PM
@LUCKMCFLY, I hope this news is not fake. It would be a huge disappointment if the fight does not happen after all the anticipation and hype surrounding it. Let's hope they ensure that the fight takes place this time. Otherwise, it would be a waste of effort and time, and many fans might lose interest in boxing altogether.
I agree, I wouldn't put too much emphasized on that news, because it's just another clickbait article from that news site although it just pertain to boxing. And I have check other boxing sites and there are no reports about the Spence vs Crawford fight, so I would refrain from posting that kind of news until either of the announced it publicly that they are going to fight. The first negotiation is messy and we are all expecting that it will happen, but it didn't as it broke down because of the financials of the fight. So it's better to wait first before we all get excited.
There have been rumors of these two boxers fighting in the past, but it has never come to fruition. Despite the constant hype, one of the fighters has been hesitant to risk his undefeated record. While they are both great boxers and among the best of their era, some fans may feel disappointed that they are not willing to take more risks.

However, we can still hope that with continued hype and interest, this potential matchup may happen in the future.

For me it's better to hear it directly from either fighter if the fight is going to happen or if there is negotiations right now. Instead of listening to some social media accounts who even have a date in this fight around June he says, but that is not a reliable source so I just laugh it out.

However, this fight is officially go, maybe some things that both camps wanted to and iron out.

Regardless, I think Spence will be too much for Thurman though and might get a ko/tko late in the rounds.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: March 30, 2023, 12:00:06 PM
Lakers looking good so far as well, now with Lebron back there is a good chance of making the playins or maybe even the playoffs straight up. But there will be another 4 road games ( even though the last one is with the clippers so it's basically a home game ) before finishing the season with 2 games at home. Winning today would be a huge step towards the post season, lets see if they can hold on to the lead in the 2nd half.
They got the lead early in the first, Bulls went back to tie the game and take the lead at some point, but in the end the Lakers won on the road 121-110.

Davis and Lebron lead the team scoring 38 & 25 points while the whole starting 5 of the Lakers scored a total of 107 points while the bench only scored 14. Well they won on the road, and it's a must win for them as they are trying to at least get a play-in spot.

Anyway, did anybody saw the Reaves doing the "too small" gesture against Pat Bev? Remember on their last game, Beverley did this to Lebron on Crypto.com arena, and now the Lakers got the revenge thru Reaves doing it to Beverley. Even Davis and Russell are too happy with that action, while Beverley acted like nothing happened. Karma strikes him hard. Cheesy Here's the video anyway, it's' kind of funny that even the commentators surprised and laughed at it. Got the revenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMdcO4as9xA

Yeah, saw that one and everyone is loving it, Pat did that to Lebron and we all know that they are competitive, but I think it's disrespectful to do that with your former team mates. And now that the Lakers got their revenge win and then this gesture by AR, Lol, its classic karma.

And even Lebron appreciate it after the game and was having fun, and says that although he loves it and AR got his back, AR still loves Kobe more than Lebron, but it was all just for fun.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: March 27, 2023, 11:50:15 AM
Very disappointing lost for the Warriors tonight, I mean they claim back from a huge deficit in the 4th and have the chance to win the game. But it was a costly mistake on the part of Green, Wolves was able to steal that ball and then KAT that dagger 3 on transition.

The Wolves though are shooting great % in 3's at Warriors home, Naz Reed connected a lot of it.

Even Slow mo Kyle Anderson has one to beat the buzzer.
1215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin can do 30k$ this month? on: March 27, 2023, 11:28:03 AM
Only 4 days to the end of March, and we're still at $28k, no positive news to get bitcoin moving. But I expect the remaining 4 days will have some positive news to help bitcoin reach $30k, otherwise, we will have to wait for it in April. I remain bullish on the market and believe bitcoin will continue to rise in the coming days.

And it means that we will not get closer to $30k this month because it's slowing down. But no worries, we will just have to wait (and believed), that $30k could be reached next month.

We are still in the crisis right now, and people are looking for assets to hold their wealth and bitcoin is the perfect definition of it. Although bitcoin will replace fiat might not happen, but still there are individuals who think otherwise that's why they are going to bitcoin. So yes, this is just another test for us, what lies ahead is the most important thing, look for long term prices specially in the next bull run.
1216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: March 27, 2023, 10:50:51 AM
Also, the promoters should rent Las Vegas Raiders' Allegiant stadium, have a big screen and let everyone pay $100 per person to watch the fight hehehe.
Well, that's a first if that indeed happens but they should swap the venue though because Allegiant Stadium can hold more people compared to T-Mobile Arena.

Quote
“I feel as though I’m already that guy in the sport. Canelo is going out the door, all these guys. I’m the face of boxing, let’s just say that.”

After this win, it’s just me getting over the hump. If you don’t watch boxing, this is the fight to watch – for sure.”
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Source https://boxing-social.com/news/gervonta-davis-warns-canelo-hes-new-face-of-boxing/
That's quite too much for him to say especially that he ain't got the WBA world title belt, or any of those existing belts that is now possessed by the undisputed champion, Devin Haney. And he's saying and comparing himself towards Canelo Alvarez? Grin Boy, I know you got talents but you still have a long way to go and that's for sure.

However, similar to what I have said, it can be argued that he might become the face of boxing if he wins this fight. The same argument can be created for Ryan Garcia. I also reckon that it would leave a bigger impression on the fans if Ryan Garcia is the winner. The occurrence might be compared to Muhamad Ali versus Sonny Liston where Ali was the underdog hehehe.

Either can be the face of boxing, because as far as drawing fans to their fights, it's easy for them, they have the charisma specially Ryan Garcia. For Tank Davis his trash talk and the way he demolished his opponents with highlight knockout.

Not sure if we can compare it to the great Muhammad Ali, they don't have any belts, either one of them, it's that they are the main draw in this division and not the champion in Haney.

I was only trying to make a argument of the type of storyline the sports news media might create if Ryan Garcia wins the fight. If he knocks out Tank with an unseen left hook it would certainly be written in the news as something similar to Muhammad Ali's phantom punch used against Sonny Liston hehehehe.

Ryan has the charisma and he appears to be well educated. Tank appears to be someone who is from the streets when you listen to him.

Fair enough, yeah it could be big as the Ali upset on Liston that time, and it seems that's where Ali has started his trash talking though and from what I read it was like over before the actual fight because they say that Liston is really affected on what is Ali is saying on the public against him. I mean the psyche war is already won by Ali already.

Not just that he look very educated + charisma. It maybe stem from him always praising God first during his win or when he is interviewed.

It seems that the kid is God fearing and that's where he got his strength.
1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: March 26, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
The news of Damian Lillard ending the season made me a little sad. I don't want him to be injured at all, if he has a problem, it may be difficult for him next season. When such a good player deals with serious injuries, he cannot catch up with his old performance, and his age has started to progress.
Portland Trailblazers doesn't have much of a chance to be successful this year anymore. Therefore, the decision taken may be the right one
Damian Lillard is a millionaire player who has won seven NBA All-Stars and six All-NBA Team Selections.
In October 2021 Lillard was named the league's greatest player of all time.
Lillard also won a gold medal on the 2020 US Olympic team in Tokyo.
He has given a number of wins and became a core player on the Blazers team.
By deciding to end the season, the Blazers will lose strength and this will be a big loss for the Blazers because they will not have a great player like Lillard.
Maybe the Blazers have prepared another player to replace Lillard, but I'm not sure I can be as good as Lillard.
Injuries can happen to anyone including professional players like Lillard but let's hope he doesn't get hurt in the slightest.

Hey I'm a Dame fan but he isn't even in the top 10 players this year.  He isn't antlywhere near the top of the best players of all time.  He might not even be the best blazer of all time.  Clyde Drexler would give him a run.  But you are talking MJ, Lebron, kobe, bird, magic, wilt, so and and so on. 

Clyde or even a prime Walton (not the Bill Walton that the majority we have seen in 80's as a Celtics as he is already injury prone and in the tail end of his career), and Walton bring a championship to the Blazers organization. There could also be the case of Brandon Roy, but retired already at age 26 because of injuries as well.

Anyhow, yeah, just sad to see him go down again this season, it's like the Blazers are cursed with such good players but injuries slow them down or retire for good like the case of Greg Oden.
1218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 3) on: March 26, 2023, 08:11:03 PM
Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

Yes, looking at this records, it's not that impressive.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

This could be the main reason why they pick Nghitumbwa in a very short notice. The fight will be in Casimero's backyard, so they have to find someone who Casimero can handle as a tune up fight and should not be a risk on him.

What do you guys think of this fight?

Casimero by a brutal knockout.
1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez on: March 26, 2023, 07:53:52 PM
Plant was starting to get cocky early in the fight. He started off great but once he felt David's power his strategy fell apart and he turned into a punching bag the entire second half of the fight. I'm impressed that it went the distance with the amount of punishment that Plant took. Benavidez is indeed a monster and this makes me much more interested in seeing him fight Canelo. He has earned that opportunity. That is a fight where either guy could win by knockout so it is going to have a lot more demand with boxing fans than Canelo against Ryder or a rematch against Bivol.

Power of David was really evident, those uppercuts, you can see Plant's head snap everytime that David will hit him. It's probably his pride that keep his standing specially in the second half of the fight.

Yeah, very impressive on how he handle himself, specially in the second half wherein he rally because he felt that he might be losing in the score card in the first fight. Let's hear it from Canelo after he defeats Ryder if he is willing to face another Mexican in Benavidez.
1220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will the altcoin go up in price if the bitcoin price goes up? on: March 25, 2023, 09:51:38 PM
I have watched the market and the price of bitcoin is going up, and I think and also usually if bitcoin goes up then the altcoins usually go up in price, for example if btc goes up 3% then altcoins always go up in the range of 7%. but what I see this time is not like that, for example if btc goes up 7% then the altcoin goes up only 3%.
It will depend on which altcoins they are. Sometimes, when Bitcoin is going up, altcoins will fall down. But if Bitcoin price is falling down, altcoins will also be falling down. However, sometimes, if BTC is sideways, altcoins may have chances to rise up. But this scheme is also not permanent. Sometimes, when Bitcoin is stably rising up with very good news, altcoins will be also following to rise up. At least we can see most of the altcoins will be also doing so very well. In this case, we can see how long altcoins will be able to survive during this kind of market, will be able to follow up Bitcoin's increase or not.

Yeah, it's not always the case, what you have describe is the most possible scenario that we have seen in the market or Bitcoin/Altcoin relationship. But I guess the majority though is that when bitcoin is in a massive run, it trickle down to the most solid altcoins in the market, so they go up as well maybe the increased is huge as compare to bitcoin. But the point is that bitcoin is that influential to them, that a simply blip in the price will affect everyone. And it's only a small percentage that altcoin moved itself alone without the influence of bitcoin in the market, that rarely happen.
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