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2081  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Tulip Mania 2.0 on: June 16, 2022, 09:39:55 PM
Oh yeah I love these newbie Bitcoin is death accounts. They always came up when the bottom was near.

Lol, but yeah, it give us something to ponder in the morning and then make a good laugh out of it. Not sure how many times we heard Tulip Bubble = Bitcoin scenario because it is not.

The OP should read the Tulip Mania history and maybe come back here and see if he can identify the difference. But I guess not, this is just another newbie again talking just coming back when we are about to hit the bottom and then have the audacity to say "bitcoin is dead".
2082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: June 16, 2022, 09:04:35 PM


And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.

Yes, that was a bad ass era, lots of great boxers facing each other without any question because of their machismo, they want to proved who is the best. But time has change, boxing is now control by few promoters and networks that they can control which fight is going to happen. And unless there are millions in the table, they are not willing to put the best boxers against each other.
2083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 16, 2022, 08:40:41 PM
Well.. that is also true. Golovkin is now 40 years old. Canelo should have agreed to the trilogy fight in 2019 or 2020. He delayed the fight without any real reason apart from the fear of losing. But even now, it is not going to be easy for Canelo. All that said, the chance of Golovkin winning by KO is next to zero. It is going to be either KO win for Canelo, or a win for either of the sides based on majority decision. And when it comes to latter, Canelo will always have an advantage since the match is taking place in the United States.

Why fighting in United States gives Canelo an advantage over Golovkin? You think because Canelo lives there currently and GGG lives in Kazakhstan? Long time ago GGG has moved to Germany, and I had faced numerous articles claiming he lives both in Stuttgart Germany and Santa Monica US. GGG has same huge army of fans all around the world, and I am sure the venue they will fight, will be crowded by his people, similar to Canelo fans. You would be amazed how GGG is popular in Kazakhstan and how people support him. He wont feel like a visitor during this fight, definitely.

If you have watched the first two fights, then you should know.  Grin

I was closely following the live scorecards from sports channels and all of them had GGG ahead by a large margin before the official results were announced. Even CNN Sports had Golovkin ahead. But when the final results announced, it ended as a draw. Dave Moretti (whom I consider one of the best judges ever) scored the match 115-113 for Golovkin, while Don Trella had a scorecard of 114-114. Then shockingly Adalaide Byrd had a scorecard of 118-110 in favor of Canelo. I was astounded by the scorecard from Byrd. She was definitely not watching the same match that others were watching.

Ohhh... You have meant judges...I though you were talking about "at home even walls help" Cheesy Like it always easier to perform at home, because the fans, the crowd is always for your (however that did not work in a fight against Bivol). Yeap, judging was a disaster. Byrd perhaps was in love for Canelo and scored him as a dominant fighter that evening Cheesy Also To all of the boxing critics, boxing fans, the NSAC and most of all GGG, I am truly sorry for misjudging the fight and after I was able to. Glad she realizes she had screw up. Since that, she hasnt judged big fights anymore.

As far as her boxing a boxing judge I think she quit something after her disastrous scoring and has been criticized up to this day. So it ruined her reputation.

I guess the judges in this fight won't be biased as that time Canelo was really the pound for pound and yeah, maybe Adelaide Byrd was at awe at Canelo. The judges has not been announced yet, but again, they should get a judge that has the reputation already and has a history of being fair and scoring the fight right because this is one of the best fight for this year and it might be close again.
2084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season - Finals on: June 16, 2022, 01:16:32 PM
I also want to see the Game 7 man. This final series shouldn't end up by a 4-2 win for Golden State Warriors. I believe Boston Celtics deserved as much as them to reach the championship. Their last time as the champions was in the 2007-2008 season. They haven't been the champions for thirteen seasons and it is going to fourteen if they lose this series. I think it must be time for them to make it. But this is going to be really hard for them as they will need to win two times in a row.

Right, who wouldn't want to see a old fashion game 7? And then Celtics is the favorite n game 6 at Boston Garden? Perhaps this could be the first time that we are going to see a team with 3 game 7 and all of them are in their favor. But we will have to see, the Warriors has gain the momentum already with back to back win and they are a good road team too so I wouldn't be surprised if they win a tough game 6 in the road will balloons going down.

I'm also afraid of this possibility that Warriors could win again and finish this series. On the other hand, they don't seem very consistent too. I mean for example Curry had a really bad day in the last game but they still won though. If they don't get a significant contribution from him then Celtics might have a bigger chance to equalize the score of the series. Of course Warriors still have great shooters who can fill Curry's place when he is playing badly. So Celtics will need to defend like hell.  Cheesy

We know that Celtics is a good defensive team, but they should put 100% on it, they can't afford to play good 3rd quarter and then they don't have the concentration in the 4th quarter.

It might be a dangerous Curry that we will see or game 6 Klay performance for the Warriors. And what if this two shoot the ball high percentage and score 30+ points each and then Wiggins and Poole also doing some damage? As others have said, pressure is mounting on the side of Boston to win game 6.
2085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 15, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
As i said in other thread if Boston cant win in the game five with a Curry in 0 of 9 in 3 points shoots...... man its really uphill for they.

If Golden State its the champion this can be one of the worst champion i remember in the last years.

Lol, what do you mean worst champion? they have been in this position before, they have the greatest shooter of all time and then you call them worst champion? They are the number 3 seed in the West going into the finals, so they are pretty solid. It's not like they are the 6-8 seed and beat teams that are not healthy, maybe except for the Memphis series wherein Ja Morant is injured by they are extended by the Grizzlies to 6 games .

I guess the Warriors are going to end the series in 6 games. Most of us predicted that they will be in like 4-1 or 4-2 so maybe some of us got the correct scores then.
2086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODLing strong! on: June 15, 2022, 01:33:49 PM
And all my friends asked me how (and IF) to buy at 60k. I was saying guys, this is not the right moment, wait for the next drop in 2022. Now, if I say "hey this is a good time to buy"... they say nope. Every cycle is the same. And those are they same I tried to orange pill at 700$.

Yea, the novice buy when the market is green and sell when everywhere is red. I wonder how they can make the profit. At this time they will say the dip will go dipper, which also is better than the green going red and dipper red.

If you hold btc, hodl bur if you hold shit coins sorry.

True, and then those novice who bought when the market is green and then seeing the bear market complain and bitch around. But they didn't realized what is going on with the market, maybe it's better if they will learn it the hard way as experience is the best teacher to us. So this is going to be a long hard grind going up again and it might take years. So it's better to hold or better buy bitcoin because they are extremely cheap.
2087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past? on: June 15, 2022, 12:27:14 PM
I think every casino has a self exclusion and gamble responsibly program. And so this is global per se, it's just the question if this is being implement or not. Is the casino able to block the person if he can control it and slip and try to gamble again?

And the gamblers has also the responsibility to inform the gambling platform specially if you break it. So again, it boils down to both parties, and take reasonable steps to prevent this gambling problem not only for the individual, but for others as well.
2088  Economy / Speculation / Re: $13,000 is quite possible this week on: June 15, 2022, 11:09:54 AM
It did not expect that the price of bitcoin continued to fall and this week was more than 33%, this made a large panic and in my opinion worse than 2018, if in 2018 the price only dropped around 40% but until now the price has dropped more than 60% than ATH, This makes us have to be aware of panic and anything can happen.

It could be worst if we goes down to $13k, as it is a huge crash coming from $69k. I believed that it can go down to $20k, and it will be the lowest low this bear market. But we are just barely half of the year at the start of the bear cycle and now we have achieved that already. So the future really looks bleak and that $13k might be possible but not sure if we can go that low this week. Just stay vigilant, I'm not going to say that we shouldn't panic, we should, but take this opportunity as a way to stockpile more BTC in our wallet.
2089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 13, 2022, 05:38:16 AM
Speaking of game 5.

How would this game go? last game it went under, and this is a very important game, so I think the defense is still present here.

The current total is 212, shall I go under here?
Also, on the point spread, I'm taking the Warriors without hesitation, forget all the fix game, Warriors at home and needed to win so they'll likely cover the spread if they win the game.
I am now at 1 win and 2 losses for over and under bets.  Grin It's really unpredictable every game so, like Game 3, I may just pass on betting there.
About the spreads, yes they may cover it because we haven't seen a game that ended with a super close match like a 1-3 point difference. Most of their games are won by 10+ points of a lead. The only question is if the Celtics will steal another win on the road or if the Warriors will defend their home and make their fans satisfied and feel no doubts that they can win a championship.
Good luck with your decision.

Yeah, same here, the Over/Under is a hit or miss as it is really hard to see where the score is going to go. I mean there are quarter that they are both going to just score less than 25 points. And then in the 3rd or 4th suddenly one of them will explode for 39 points ++.

So for me it's better to just bet on the handicap or the ML. As you have said, most of the opening lines are -/+3.5 and teams are winning by double digits. So it's a sure win if you prediction got it right.
2090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 13, 2022, 05:01:04 AM
It's because the casino has house edge, so by design, they will always going to win specially if you play long games in any casino. And that's how they make money from us gamblers. Of course, who doesn't want to win more? it's just human nature that we are greedy. So unless you don't control yourself, you might end up losing and then become addicted to it. So if you chance, you won some money already, don't stretch your luck, maybe it's better if you will exit and enjoy your winnings.
2091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. on: June 12, 2022, 11:06:50 PM
The Game 4 was fabulous for especially Steph Curry. His 43-point effort had a big contribution in this 107-97 victory. Warriors can be really unstoppable when they capture the momentum. They rely on Curry in these times and Celtics have a bigger responsibility about hindering him as much as possible in these times. Otherwise this happens and they have nothing to do about it. Everything was decided in the 4th quarter. Anyway I think Celtics will have a big response to this next time.

We haven't seen a momentum shift though, but game 5 might be the one that will put the Warriors on top of the series and gain the momentum they needed in order to win the NBA finals. It's really hard to stop a shooter like Curry, and I don't think that anyone in the Celtics team can defend him well. And as we all know the Warriors is an experienced team and so they know the importance of winning game 4 at the road. Now it's time for them to go back to their home court and one another game.
2092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a gem hunter? on: June 12, 2022, 10:24:34 PM
...Let me know if you think this is a new gem in the cryptocurrency market..  Cool

Before inviting users to visit your site, you need to install the HTTPS protocol, since many users avoid visiting such sites. You obviously know that all browsers mark sites using HTTP connections as unsafe and can lead to data theft.

So, you need to get an SSL certificate, and after that we will examine your "gems".

Lol, so it means that the website was not yet fully operational and I'm afraid that majority of investors are not going to trust any site without at least an HTTPS protocol because it's very dangerous and unsafe.

And with that, I think the OP has lot of understanding to need in this community. Specially like shilling for a supposedly new project and call it a gem On the other hand it could really not help them in the long run, and it could boomerang on their reputation.
2093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: June 12, 2022, 10:03:40 PM
^ Yes, and that is why we have been waiting for this mega fight to happen for years now, because we wanted to see how is the best between the two. There are a lot of arguments for and against them, and it will be settled only in the right. And with that said, going to be 50/50 and this might go down the full 12 rounds and the judges will have to decide who is the best  as this fight is very close in my book.
2094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Think Its One Too Many on: June 12, 2022, 09:31:10 PM
One accusation might be enough to ruin ones gambling platform however it will still depend on the outcome of the accusations made on the casino. The example amount you've mentioned might take a few time for it to be resolved as the platform with need to thoroughly investigate the issue as it involve a huge amount of money.

Yes, still boils down to the community's consensus. If they believed that the casino has every right, to not pay the customers because of some violations, or on the other hand, there could be members who think that the customer is right and has solid proof against the reputable online casino.

So it could be resolved after a long time or not be resolved at all. And if could be forgotten by the community and then the casino continue to flourish and their name not tarnished by this one incident.
2095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 12, 2022, 09:10:59 PM
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Just looked at the odds there on Rollbit, Murray 1.90 - 1.91 Berrettini. -3.5 @ 3.8 looks
very appealing on Andy but that means at least 1 tie break in a 2 set match or 3 tie breaks.

it is starting in few minutes, I will wait for a few gems, and try to put Murray to win above @2, if there is a chance, and he looks solid
Medevedev is also starting at the moment, and there I am playing handicap on Rijthoven, should be a Medevedev win, but hardly with two breaks and better than 6:3, 6:3, he is playing next week as well



So Berrettini wins in 3 sets against Murray, well done to him especially coming back
from surgery and he will be pumped going into Queens.

Murray can be proud of himself though to get to a final after all he has been through
and the fight he has to get back competing in finals.



The shock of the day has to go to Medvedev being beaten in sHertogenbosch by a van Rijthoven
the qualifier, 6-4, 6-1 <--- that is some scoreboard against the world #2 1 soon to be.

Well done casperBGD on your handicap bet!

Yeah, didn't see the game, but it seems that Murray has the last say in the second set and make a great comeback. But it seems he was dominated by Berrettini in the 3rd. I agree, this is something that we didn't expect from Murray, but he reaches the finals again, perseverance is the key.

So Medvedev is beaten by a relatively unknown player? Must be really a bad day for him.

Good call on this one for those who bet on the underdog.
2096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna - July 19 on: June 11, 2022, 10:52:49 PM
Some nasty words coming from Ryan:

Quote
“After [Fortuna], I’m gonna go after Tank. I want to beat his ass.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-fortuna-im-gonna-go-tank-i-want-beat-his-ass--166843

He seems to be obsessed with Tank Davis, although he has been calling him even prior to the pandemic and then war of the words wherein we don't know who is telling the truth as far as stalling this fight. Let Ryan first win this fight with a knockout. If this is going to be a snoozer or a 12 round fight, a boring one, probably either Haney or Tank will just roast him in public and criticize his fight.

He's just lucky because Haney, Tank nor Kambosos ain't confronting him because to be honest, Ryan Garcia is still having a hard time paving his own way just because of that mental issue he had. Although, these boxers I've mentioned will not stoop down to Garcia's level because they know they're much better than him and their records can speak for that. Garcia should just focus more on his upcoming fight and make his performance better and refrain from barking because his time will come if he will be great on his future fights.

I agreed before his mental breakdown everybody wants Ryan Garcia, Haney even to the extent go to the ring after Ryan's fight and confronting him and daring him to fight him and he even talks to Hopkins to let him fight Ryan these two circumstances is very popular on Youtube, but now Haney is the undisputed champion, he doesn't want to talk or even mention Ryan as one of his challenger, Haney believes that Ryan has to prove himself first.

Yup, because prior to his mental issues, he is really breaking down his opponents and about to make a name for himself. Although there is one blip wherein he was knock down by Campbell but he comebacks and knock out Campbell out. But now it's like a totally different Ryan in the ring, maybe it's the effect of being out for some time and still recovering from his mental breakdown. Needs more fight prepare himself for the big names like Tank which he has been chasing or even Haney now the holder of all belts.
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will we see the destruction of ETH anytime soon? on: June 11, 2022, 10:31:07 PM
Not sure where the OP get those negativity against ETH, but it has some truth on it. Specially the high gas fees which has been the hot topic and ETH devs try to resolved in in the last 3 years and nothing happen.

Fortunately for them, ETH like BTC is one of the prime movers in crypto space, so despite those issues, investors are still going to put their money on it. NFT's is the latest hype and it will be big even in a bear market. So I'm not seeing ETH getting destroyed or even losing it's value.
2098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. on: June 11, 2022, 01:16:36 PM
I don't feel Green in the game while his counterpart Williams does.

Green is not his usual self in this series, maybe he is really having a hard time against Williams and Smart and Horford. But he gets the job done with rebounds and good defense and it's enough for them to win tonight. He didn't foul out so that is a plus already.

And everyone who needs to step up perform well in this game, Poole and Klay with dribble penetration and then stop at a dime for a lay up or jump shot. And then Wiggins helping out in the rebounding department and making sure to get offensive rebounds. And yes, they really deserved this hard earn win.
2099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 11, 2022, 11:44:03 AM
Curry is closer to the finals MVP
I've read an article that consists of Brown, Tatum, Curry, Thompson, and Smart for the contenders of the finals MVP.
Article: NBA Finals MVP Ladder: Jaylen Brown passes Stephen Curry for No. 1
And this article said that it's Brown on the no. 1 while Curry is on the no. 2. I think if The Warriors will get the ring, it's for sure that Curry will get the finals MVP whilst for the Celtics, I thought that it's Tatum who's leading.

I didn't read the article, but probably it was written before this game, wherein the Celtics is on top and we haven't seen Curry his 40+ points in game 4. And If they win the championship, the trophy will go to him. And if the Celtics win, then it's going to be a toss up between Tatum and Brown.

But it's not over yet, but I guess we can smell that maybe, just maybe the Warriors will have the edge going at home for game 5.
2100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: June 11, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?
Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

Yeah, that was a good tip mate, love how Andy manages this game against Tsitsipas.

Nick might be different though, I think this is going to be another close one. I will take Murray +1.5, maybe he could steal 1 set but eventually Nick might be too much for him.

Berrettini winning the first set against Otte 7-6, and it's on the second set, 5-5 Mateo serving with 40-15 lead.
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