I just want to remind that anyway Trust Wallet is owned by Binance, the biggest exchange in the world, which makes a ton of money every single day so I'm not saying that we should 100% trust them but I find very hard to believe that they would jeopardize everything they've built over a wallet spyware, it makes little sense to me, if someone would discover a spyware in their wallet it could mean the end for them and for the whole BNB/BSC ecosystem. Only the fact that the wallet is owned by a centralized exchange should be a monster flag for anybody to not use it ever. Are we still talking about safety or is now a privacy problem? Because they're two different things. Binance, the biggest exchange in the world Should I remind that in 2014 Mt. Gox was also the biggest exchange in the world? Needless to remind what happened to it and to its clients, right?  2014 for bitcoin is like a geological era for bitcoin, everyone has his thoughts but placing on the same level an exchange from 2014 with another one 9 years later really makes no sense for me. Anyway I think we've highjacked the thread long enough  |
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About the bug on Trustwallet, someone complained it to me, but the person was able to send all his coins out of the wallet into another wallet. It is a bug. Still also good to know that a close source wallet should not be used, not because of this particular bug because an open source wallet can have such bug and be fixed, but because you do not know the kind of vulnerabilities that the developers may intentionally included into the wallet code, like spyware etc.
I just want to remind that anyway Trust Wallet is owned by Binance, the biggest exchange in the world, which makes a ton of money every single day so I'm not saying that we should 100% trust them but I find very hard to believe that they would jeopardize everything they've built over a wallet spyware, it makes little sense to me, if someone would discover a spyware in their wallet it could mean the end for them and for the whole BNB/BSC ecosystem. And just to be clear, as I said before I use Trust Wallet just to receive the bounty rewards, it's not my main storage wallet, I just prefer it for small transactions using the smartphone. |
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Those who are afraid of the price of bitcoin are not full pro Bitcoin enthusiasts but bypass investors. How can someone be afraid of investing on bitcoin because of the unstable market price? In bitcoin you never lost any unit or amount. The unit you bought is still in the wallet whenever bitcoin goes down and up. The only thing that reduces is your fiat currency and not the one in your Wallet.
Bitcointakers has no problem with the price of bitcoin unless the user is a new user in the forum. All the old users are aware of the nature of the price. They should not be afraid of anything, they should be courageous in it.
I totally agree with this post. Many people are here just with the idea the get rich almost overnight investing very little money, without even understanding bitcoin and what it actually represents and allows you to do. And those the type of people who lose money and then they talk sh!t about bitcoin very time it goes down. I you're a hodler and you understand how bitcoin works there is no way that you'd sell, especially below your buying price. |
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PS chi è l'ingegnere Cane? 🧐
Lillominato, se l'89 nel tuo nick è l'anno di nascita hai veramente poche scuse per non conoscere l'Ingegner Cane  Ti metto un video per rinfrescarti la memoria, qualcosa dovrà pur farti tornare in mente, in un modo o nell'altro dovrà sbloccarti un ricordo, spero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hZFCTAC_kQNon posso credere altrimenti che tu non ti sia mai imbattuto nell'Ingegner Cane |
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Someone just got out of prison after 10 years and then cash out his stash, Lol.
But who knows, your guess is as good as mine, maybe he just stumbled upon a old laptop and then see the private key and mnemonic phrase. And that is a long HODL though and it's just surprising that someone will suddenly move it when we are not even in the bull run.
The prison scenario seems like one of the more-likely ones to me. There are 100 other possibilites, from someone finding an old harddrive with the keys to being in need of some quick cash-flow for an unexpected reason. However 280 BTC isn't a massive amount that would have any huge impact on the market at all. Also, regarding your question about cashing out in the current market situation: I don't think the market is THAT bad right now, it's still up over 75% from recent lows, so if you know you need the cash within the next 6 - 12 months, now seems like a reasonable time to cash-out (even though I think going doller-cost-average over a period of a few months is usuall the better way). Considering that 10 years ago bitcoin was used a lot to buy, how can I say, not exactly legal products, the prison theory makes sense. Another one is that maybe the guy is giving some bitcoin to a member of his family for whatever reason: buying a house, kid turning 18, wedding, or some other big life event like those. It doesn't necessarily mean those bitcoin are going to be sold. Last thing, had I owned 1000+ bitcoin I would have split them a long time ago, you never know what could happen, I wouldn't feel safe having them all in one wallet. |
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I don't know why anyone would be surprised. It's standard operating procedures for Critical Race Theory (CRT) to be introduced even in the most irrelevant contexts. I repeat, that is probably a standard operating procedure (copying your words) for the USA, not for the rest of the world. I'm European and my experience with the USA is kind of weird because, to be honest I've never seen such a political and social mess, I've always heard the USA were a melting pot of different cultures and people working and supporting each other, that is not my experience at all, the majority of people just tolerate each other, which is way different from supporting. It's a very unhealthy and dangerous way of living, if things don't change the situation could really reach a critical point. |
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The value of bitcoin can fluctuate rapidly and dramatically, sometimes within a single day. This can create challenges for individuals and businesses that use bitcoin as a means of payment or as an investment.
For example, if someone were to receive payment in bitcoin BTC for a product or sevice, the value of that payment could decrease significantly before they have chance to exchange it for a more stable currency. Similarly, business that hold bitcoin as an investment may experience significant losses if the value of bitcoin drops suddenly.
the decentralized nature of bitcoin can make it difficult for government and regulartory agencies to monitor and control its use. This can create challenges in areas such as tax collection, money laundering prevention, and consumer protection.
Overall, while bitcoin BTC has the potential to offer many benefits ,its volatility and lack of regulation can create significant challenges for business, governments and us people around the world.
Bitcoin is still a relatively new thing, so it's not surprising at all that there is high volatility. We are still in the early stages, don't forget bitcoin is just 13 years old more or less, of course it's going to take time before it becomes more stable. I see this as an opportunity anyway because more and more people can see what bitcoin is actually able to do and the kind of value it carries. If bitcoin would have been stable at, let's say, $50/BTC no one probably would have cared about buying it. |
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I did some research on Bitcoin because I was interested in it, and I discovered that the key principles of Bitcoin are peer-to-peer, anonymity, pseudonymity, decentralization, and operating without a middleman to ensure that Bitcoiners can have financial freedom. However, despite knowing that Bitcoiners adhere to these tenets, why do some Bitcoiners act contrary to them? Why do they continue to support centralized exchanges, use them, and retain their Bitcoin there?
You are mixing too many things all together. Personally I have nothing against centralized exchanges because at the end they are the easiest, quickest and safest way to buy bitcoin for a newbie. If they didn't exist not everyone would understand how to buy them on some decentralized exchange or even on the street meeting someone, which is also dangerous by the way. They should be seen just as the very first step, after you understand how they work you're supposed to move your coins/tokens in a private wallet, not leaving them there. |
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Most recent posts on this forum such as https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449800.0Seems more like few persons are scared that they may loss to their Bitcoin hodlings due to the recent drops in price of Bitcoin This is very understandable but as a Bitcoin investor you should know that with the series of price changes Bitcoin has encountered over the years we can say that it rises in value more than it drops . Therefore I want to urge all my fellow bitcointalkers to not lose interest in holding because of these little drops in price keep holding your Bitcoin .It will definitely boom soon When I see that kind of threads I actually think that the OP is not scared at all, instead he's trying to scare the others. I mean let's be serious and analyze the situation: bitcoin a just ~10 years ago was worth a few dollars, now it's worth almost $28k (~$27,600 while I'm writing), how could be someone worried? Also the whole ecosystem keeps growing, government are not as anti-bitcoin as they used to be, more and more people own and use bitcoin, several big corporations own it. Just use a little brain and you know why it's pointless worrying about today's price. |
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Probably it's because I'm European but I really don't understand why everything, and I mean everything, in the USA has to be somehow racist and/or offensive to someone.
Because it pays! If you could exploit the majority demographic (whites), who, statistically is the most empathetic, most tolerant and has the weakest in-group preference, why wouldn't you? Why accept the "colour blind" approach, if you could declare it racist (i.e. for being bling to black people's struggles) and introduce group identity politics instead - in which there's only one group that is not allowed to view themselves as a group and care for their own interest. This is now spiraling down without control, the Californian "reparations task force" is a great example. There's a serious debate going on about how much people who have never owned any slaves should pay to people who have never been slaves in "reparations" for slavery. Apparently $5 million per head just for being black is not enough. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11918251/Five-million-little-California-reparations-taskforce-told-black-residents-7-6m.htmlYou can't make this stuff up. That is for sure. I know that at the end is all about money, I remember reading articles about the huge houses that BLM founders bought using money from the donations they got for example. Let's say that I'm not surprised that there are people exploiting the system for their own interest, I'm surprised by the amount of common people how actually follow them and share their "ideas". Instead of bringing people together I feel like they're trying to set them not even apart but one "group" against the other. It's ridiculous. |
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We all know China banned Bitcoin and altcoin trading first. Next they went ahead and banned miners. After that they rolled out their own digital Yuan. Which I am afraid did not succed as expected by CCP. Now suddenly they are allowing HK to go ahead with crypto and become a hub of Bitcoin as well as Altcoin economy. The biggest bank in HK a few days back declared that they will support crypto.
I mean what do you guys think is going around with this decision of China. As per my understanding HK has become a shadow control colony of China. Which was not what they had promised to UK. This situation could become a problem for USA and it's allies in the future. Already we can see big companies (banks) in the US are now buying shares of Microstrategy, whereby they are indirectly investing in Bitcoin. As they now realize the potential of Bitcoin.
Does that mean China is utilizing this negative situation in the US on crypto to its favour or they are just testing the possibilities in order to regulate it. Do remember this is how China became the 2nd larget economy in just 20 years.
Hong Kong is not completely under China's control, probably even the very same Chinese government understood that they can't just treat Hong Kong like any other part of country because they're simply too different and they have a mixed mentality, eastern and western, so I don't think they'll ever accept that China could take very important decisions for them. Regarding China eventually playing a double game, well, would anyone be surprised? At the end we're talking about politics and money, you can't never trust anyone in these circumstances, let alone a country like China, a country where they can simply completely change something overnight without any problem... |
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I signed up on this forum in 2014 with minimal knowledge of cryptocurrencies and a restricted ability to comprehend their concept. Being a young teenager, you'll understand. On top of that, I had no way of acquiring it myself. Thus, I missed the opportunity to buy at ridiculously low prices (compared to today's). I gave up shortly after and reappeared on the forum in 2017 for about a year or two at most, abandoning it again and kicking some great opportunities once again.
I've seen an increasing trend over the past few months, mostly from newer BTT users striving to acquire as much Bitcoin as possible as soon as possible. Some even claim to sell their jewelry or other personal belongings in an attempt to acquire more capital to use towards a Bitcoin purchase. Other newbies claim that they found wallets filled with Bitcoin in the early stages, in an attempt to impress others, while a few days ago they'd be asking how to sign up on Binance or whatever. It's unclear whether any of these stories are true, but that's not the point.
The majority of us missed the boat when Bitcoin was cheap, and now acquiring a whole coin isn't affordable anymore. The average wage in Greece is approximately €800 (about €10,000 per year), while Bitcoin's price is at $27,500 as we speak (about €25,000), which means that I will need 2.5 years to acquire the requested amount of money, in the condition of not spending a single Euro, without taking into account any price increases. Thus, purchasing a whole coin would effectively require up to 6 or even 7 years for the average person in Greece.
I currently have less than 0.20 BTC, which is still a semi-decent amount for myself, the majority of which are from signature campaigns (huge thanks to Cryptobrainboss and Hampuzz for having me in their campaigns), and I'm totally okay with the idea of never owning a single Bitcoin; it's not the end of the world. So far, I'm earning an important side income through it, while spending time on the forum is like a hobby of mine now. This is what matters most to me.
To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
First of all you should be grateful that you discovered bitcoin way before many other people and, especially, you understood why bitcoin is important, not everyone gets it. And I wouldn't compare yourself, your salary and your bitcoin to other people's , everyone is different, everyone has a different background and a different story. For you 0,20 BTC is a small amount, I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that can only dream of owning that amount. But I get it, it's part of the human nature, the more we get, the more we want, and of course we make comparisons towards people who have more than us, no less. |
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Effettivamente tanta roba, io viste le percentuali usuraie ho sempre declinato, però se spendi e paghi in effetti.. Beh ma alla fine le percentuali usuraie sono un problema solamente nel momento in cui inizi a spendere più di quello che ti puoi permettere, se uno conosce i propri limiti vedo solo vantaggi nell'utilizzare la carta di credito piuttosto che quella di debito: cash back, maggiore protezione in caso di truffe, sconti vari che vengono offerti a rotazione mensile, aumento del credit score... Noi all'inizio abbiamo dovuto per forza di cose usare una carta di debito non avendo uno storico e mi mangio le mani pensando a quanto abbiamo speso senza aver ottenuto nessun ritorno però non potevamo fare nulla al rispetto, era così. Mi pare che AmEx abbia una carta in collaborazione con Amazon/Whole Foods e si arriva al 5% di cash back. Sembrano tante piccole cose però alla fine dell'anno ti ritrovi con qualche migliaio di dollari di punti/cash back, quindi ripeto, sono soldi che si spenderebbero in ogni caso per cibo, benzina, internet, telefono e altre spese obbligatorie, meglio approfittarne. Il problema americano è un po’ cone le loro banche. A giusto o torto comunque sanno che avranno sempre e comunque un salvagente. Questa è una cosa che mi fa altamente girare le palle, possono fare quello che vogliono con i soldi dei clienti perché tanto sanno che qualcuno interverrà in ogni caso, assurdo. Ci sono parecchie mafie legalizzate negli USA tra banche, sanità e assicurazioni su tutti direi. |
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In pratica chi segue le aste potrebbe fare davvero un ottimo affare ad acquistare gli asset crypto detenuti da TRT ad un valore molto scontato.
Non sono un esperto di liquidazioni e di diritto fallimentare, so solo che in passato chi ha comprato bitcoin in asta da enti “governativi” ha sempre pagato un premio rispetto al prezzo di mercato. Presumibilmente perché questi bitcoin sarebbero sempre stati considerati “immacolati” per quanto riguarda la transaction history. Qualcosa di simile a quello che accade (accadeva?) per le transazioni vicine alle coinbase. Oddio trovo alquanto ironico il fatto che siamo arrivati a considerare come "immacolati" dei bitcoin venduti dal governo, se Satoshi leggesse una cosa simile chissà come reagirebbe Ovviamente intendo perfettamente il senso di quello che stai dicendo, e c'è anche una logica dietro, dall'altro è una conferma indiretta di come oramai si accetti passivamente sempre più regolamentazione. Se iniziamo a fare una distinzione tra bitcoin "buoni" e bitcoin "cattivi" non ne veniamo più fuori, potrebbe perfino essere una mossa per creare seri problemi all'ecosistema. |
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Sisi ogni giorno una nuova proposta di carte di credito. Tutto gratis primi mesi poi leggi le clausole ed è pieno di commissioni, tasse, abbonamenti. Tutto si al secondo anno magari, quando ormai ti sei indebitato con interessi da usura che sfiorano il 30%! Follia
Il problema principale dell'americano è che fin da quando nasce gli viene inculcata la mentalità della spesa a tutti costi, non penso che esista una società più consumistica della loro. Gente che si indebita per comprare vestiti di marca o per andare in vacanza, ma siamo scemi?! Noi parliamo spesso male della mancanza di cultura finanziaria in Italia ma negli USA non mi pare che siano messi meglio, almeno l'italiano medio ha la mentalità del risparmio che è sicuramente meglio di quella della spesa a tutti i costi. Personalmente faccio delle carte di credito solamente per sfruttare certi bonus, poi le lascio lì dato che non hanno commissioni annuali. Sotto quell'aspetto se uno sa gestirsi sono belle cose, in Italia non penso ci siano offerte del genere. Chase ad esempio per le CC business al momento ha un offerta che se spendi $6k in 3 mesi ti accreditano $900 sotto forma di punti o cash, d'accordo che $900 non ti cambiano la vita ma tanto sono soldi che si spenderebbero ugualmente, quindi perché no? |
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A friend of mine was of the opinion that the government cannot put an end to Bitcoin because it unfortunately cannot be traced to a particular person or organization which could be sued for bringing about the currency or Blockchain.
If this is true does it mean that the identification of Satoshi as a person or organization will pose a treat to the existence of Bitcoin or otherwise
Discovering Satoshi's identity could potentially be a problem for the crypto ecosystem because it would mean that, if alive, there is a person (or a group) owning a huge amount of bitcoins that could potentially kill its value even though it would be extremely stupid to sell such huge amount all together. For me one of the most important things about bitcoin is of course its decentralization, and knowing that someone still alive owns 1 mln coins would be a huge problem, I don't think I would trust the system anymore. |
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Tutti a dare il benvenuto ma OP non si collega dal giorno di iscrizione! Mi sa che s'è spaventato😂
Dai almeno ha fatto lo sforzo di iscriversi |
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Comunque ora che ci vivo in America è effettivamente frustrante.
Cioè spese occulte e a sorpresa continue su tutto. Capisco quello che dici, direi che noi avendo un background italiano/europeo siamo molto avvantaggiati sotto l'aspetto della gestione dei soldi per quello che riguarda le spese. Prima di trasferirmi mi informavo ad esempio sul credit score e sembrava una cosa così complicata e lunga e nel giro di pochissimo tempo già eravamo in media a 750, poi vedi questi programmi e senti di gente che ha 450 e ti chiedi come sia possibile. Non scordiamo che alla fine stiamo parlando del paese capitalista per eccellenza quindi cercano sempre di fare soldi in qualsiasi modo, avendo un business non ti dico la quantità di lettere che ricevo che sembrano del governo ma invece sono altri business privati che cercano di spacciarsi per il governo per farti pagare 10-20 volte tanto il costo di cose che uno può perfettamente fare da solo, tipo alcuni rinnovi o pagamenti. Però gli basta mettere una nota piccolina sulla busta dicendo che non sono affiliati col governo e tutto va bene, è legale, anche se tutto è fatto per farti spaventare e pagare. Senza contare la quantità di offerte di carte di credito che si ricevono, bonus di qui, no commissioni di la, poi dopo il primo anno se non paghi è tipo il 25% di interessi. Gente che apre carte di credito per spostare i debiti da una carta all'altra, cioè robe assurde che per uno che arriva da fuori non ha senso. Penso che poter imparare sia dal background europeo che da quello americano comunque sia un'esperienza incredibile, in un modo o nell'altro ti cambia. Per il resto io penso che per noi sia una scelta temporanea quella degli States, come dicevi tu i costi che poi si hanno sul lungo periodo sono veramente tanti e soprattutto sono molto alti, preferiamo mettere da parte il più possibile e poi rientrare in Europa. Qui dove vivo io hanno venduto pochi mesi fa un 1 bedroom per $650.000 in un edificio degli anni '60, dai, in Europa ci costruisci una villa con quei soldi... Gli States vanno bene per fare i soldi e poi rientrare in Europa per me, a meno che uno non abbia davvero uno stipendio nell'ordine dei $7-800k l'anno, allora sì che puoi vivere tranquillo. Per quanto siano impegni presi, non capisco manco io come si possa arrivare a questo punto.
Sono veramente tanti soldi e spenderli male è da sciocchi.
Grazie per la segnalazione, magari la guardo per farmi due risate.
Quanto dura, giusto per sapere?
È una serie corta, sono 8 episodi, ognuno dura circa 30 minuti ( https://www.netflix.com/title/81410436). Praticamente il presentatore prende circa 3-4 casi alla volta, gli spiega cosa non va, gli chiede cosa vorrebbero per il futuro e poi si passa altre 3-4 persone diverse, ma i casi durano 2-3 puntate. È un concetto semplice ma ben fatto, e come dicevo è anche interessante vedere come persone totalmente diverse tra loro gestiscano i soldi. Non è per nulla pesante, ovvio, bisogna essere un minimo appassionati del tema. |
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Forse è leggermente OT ma neanche tanto: ho iniziato a vedere su Netflix una miniserie a tema finanza personale intitolata "How to Get Rich", diciamo che è abbastanza entry level come informazioni ma è sempre interessante vedere come altre persone gestiscono i propri soldi. In particolare mi ha colpito il caso di una giovane famiglia in difficoltà economica nonostante la moglie guadagnasse $250k all'anno e ho subito pensato a @Paolo.Demidov e la frase "non è difficile diventare ricchi ma rimanerlo". Sarà che io sono di vedute limitate ma trovo inconcepibile il fatto di guadagnare $250k all'anno ed essere in difficoltà economica  Dipende dagli impegni finanziari presi... Chi guadagna quelle cifre si posiziona si una vita molto cara a volte troppo. Non hanno fatto vedere i dettagli delle spese però ammetto che è stato incredibile vedere prima le entrate, che erano equivalenti a $24k durante l'ultimo mese, e li ho pensato un bel "e 'sti c@zzi", poi passano alle spese (sempre dell'ultimo mese) ed erano $27k Nonostante quel guadagno che è più che ottimo alla fine era sotto di $3k. Interessante anche il caso di un'altra famiglia che tra debiti scolastici e carte di credito era sotto di qualche $100k eppure continuavano a spendere soldi in cose assurde (tipo lui, $5-600 al mese in videogiochi e $400, sempre al mese, per l'affitto di un deposito pieno di spazzatura) e quando gli è stato chiesto perché i soldi venivano spesi in quel modo la risposta è stata "perché me lo posso permettere". Ma come?! Centinaia di migliaia di dollari di debiti vari, a fine mese arriva lo stipendio e allora come per magia scompaiono i problemi? Ammetto che è veramente affascinante vedere come ci si relazione con i soldi e come senza neanche rendercene conto spesso ci infiliamo in un buco da soli quando basterebbe veramente poco per cambiare totalmente la propria visione dell'economia. L'ho detto più e più volte e lo ripeto, non sarò mai grato abbastanza a bitcoin per avermi fatto avvicinare a questo mondo, sento veramente che ha cambiato moltissimo il mio modo di vedere le cose nonostante io non sia mai stato uno che spende e spande. |
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The recent surge in Bitcoin’s price, which has reached an all-time high of $31,000, is likely the reason for Bitcoin millionaires
Bitcoin price hasn't reach ATH yet,which will come up at 2025 after bitcoin halving next year April,2024 from analysis. Bitcoin price will still dump below 30k,which makes it not ATH. There must be an halving event before ATH,this makes me think that the author of this article doesn't understand bitcoin movement and cyclic,that it is historical. I was thinking exactly the same thing. Making such a big mistake really shows how the author had no idea what he was talking about, and he didn't even spend some time doing a proper research. And I agree with you also about the possible new ATH in 2025, after the halving. It's crazy to think that if BTC will reach $100k you "only" need 10 BTC to be a millionaire |
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