I believe that was for those who wanted to make watercooled S5s (and so don't need heatsinks).

Just to be clear, the problem with this order is 1) that you think they're not new, and 2) that some of the boards came lose during shipping?

Whoa whoa whoa, lets be honest now. The only mention of income, earnings or ROI in your guide is one vague line which suggests there might be risk, along with a link to a post from May 2014 saying don't buy USB miners to make money...


That's it, the entirety of the "WARNINGS NOT TO BUY all the way through" in the ratings, yet you're still claiming some huge moral high ground.

I've crossed out my reply for now, I was just speculating. It appears these are probably lower power than S5 hashing boards. BitmainWarranty will be able to tell you if they want to reveal at this point.

Alpha by June 2015 -_- At what point do we unretire soon^TM?

Have you had any test batches made, or will these be the first chips?

I can't help if you're not going to read what I or Bitmain post. There are many farms that are a few months away from deploying. Once those few months are up, they will accept hardware. Today they need to reserve that hardware, but that hardware will not exist for several months.

Urgh, in before the "I plugged 8 boards in and my motherboard and power supply melted". I was hoping there would be something to prevent that, currently we're looking at 3 boards per S2. Also not enthused about the cooling with large amounts of empty space in a 3 blade S2.

Will reserve judgement until we know the tdp of the boards.

I don't disagree with you, my personal approach would have been to give 24 hours notice to a rise so people can make up their minds.



That analogy doesn't really work out, you have to buy gas. You don't have to buy bitcoin miners, and there are plenty of other manufacturers out there you can purchase from if that's what you chose.



That's exactly how it works, even using your example. For some reason in the UK we've historically had a lot of fuel strikes where truck drivers blockade the refineries so stations run dry. In response, the stations put a volume limit per person and jack up the price. Are we supposed to blame them for that?



I don't like it any more than you, but there is a good reason for that particular batch. There are a lot of farms revving up in the next few months who can't yet take hardware but want to reserve hardware. Using that batch and the new part payment system they can pay a deposit and reserve capacity into the future. Its not easy for these farms to walk around and pull 1000 units off the shelf of a manufacturer.



S3++s don't work internationally because they're low density units, making shipping costs just silly. People already go crazy about S5 shipping costs, imagine it 2x worse. The fact that we're having this conversation about S5 price in the first place should explain why its not even worth talking about S3++ internationally. That doesn't mean a reseller or someone who can take them via land locallyish or is willing to wait for sea can't get them.



I am free to do what I want, very free. I don't even wear a collar most days. You can ask me the same questions in one of my own threads and you'll get exactly the same response.



I appreciate you taking the time to voice your concerns.

We're just going to replace the controller, not worth diving into it at this point.

That's not how non profits work.

For all the things they get accused of being, even when it costs them money they're willing to support the market and consumers. What I was commenting on is its disingenuous to bash them when prices go up because they also go down. You don't have to buy and no one is making you.

If you want to use that methodology, why does your guide have a thumbs up section at all? Surely all those companies (according to you) sell at a loss to the consumer and so should all be thumbs down?

It works both ways though, no one complains if/when Bitmain sells at a loss when conditions are bad.

1) Doesn't sound right, it should underclock.
2) I can't remember if firmware versions remained constant, if so then 2.6.14 or so is the latest stable. You can email them to get a manual file.
3) You're not going to have much buildup in an SP30 but you can if you want.

200 or less, its up to you if you want hashrate or efficiency. S4s won't work well with multipool as it switches coin, even if you can force a high difficulty. S3s should be set at 512.

He also said that for the last 4-6 months though.... Knowing the new forum software is going to "get rekt" my guide formatting I keep putting off gen 3.0 styling, but at some point I have to assume its 'never' coming.

A PSU is not a mining cost as its not consumed during the process of mining and value stays largely the same.

You can do it yourself, edit the first post, more options at the bottom.

I absolutely don't support it and they'll go down to mixed in the next update unless something changes. There is actually a rational explanation for the long preorder, I'll let Bitmain explain it through.