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October 20, 2015, 09:14:47 PM
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Mankind was made in God's image.

You contradict yourself.

the Adam and Eve story is the truth
What you are telling me is that:
A God of Creation capable of ordering a universe [caused] his most precious creations to be a mud sculpture and a rib-bone birthed in sin.
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October 20, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
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Have you given up saying Christianity is based on fear?
Yes. BADecker has just confirmed Christainity is fear based. There is no need for me to continue pressing this fact. He done all the hard work for me.  Cheesy
He just just threaten me with the good old "believe or else" sketch.  Roll Eyes
You better learn about God and fear Him a bit. Even though He offers forgiveness, there will come a time when He will withdraw the offer from all those who won't accept it. And His power is way beyond the power of a big man who has a gun out of its holster. Don't tick God off if you know what's good for you.



Are you afraid? No? Then Christianity is not based on fear.

He may have been trying to get you to fear in order to be saved. But that's him personally, and since you don't believe, you won't fear.

If you do believe, you won't be afraid either, because you're already saved.
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October 20, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
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1) He did not EVER ONCE suggest he was your SAVIOR.
Right here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12690846#msg12690846.


2) He represented the Christ Path of Truth and Godness--he NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD. IN FACT AT HIS
TRIAL WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS GOD HE SAID, “THEY say as much."
From the Bible New Testament, John 10:22-38:
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Then came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was in the temple area walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. The Jews gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father’s name speak for me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”

Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

“We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’? If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”


3) The New Commandment says "follow my example", "love others as I have loved you"; there is no Commandment to believe in a savior. It is sufficient to follow the Commandment he gave; is this not what is meant by "take up your cross"?

The trouble with you is, you would like to do the command. You are trying to do the command. But you can't love. If you had any love, you would teach people how to be saved the only way that they CAN be saved... through the salvation done by Jesus of the Bible.

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October 20, 2015, 09:19:14 PM
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We just hate stupid people.  Roll Eyes

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October 20, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
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Have you given up saying Christianity is based on fear?
Yes. BADecker has just confirmed Christainity is fear based. There is no need for me to continue pressing this fact. He done all the hard work for me.  Cheesy
He just just threaten me with the good old "believe or else" sketch.  Roll Eyes
You better learn about God and fear Him a bit. Even though He offers forgiveness, there will come a time when He will withdraw the offer from all those who won't accept it. And His power is way beyond the power of a big man who has a gun out of its holster. Don't tick God off if you know what's good for you.



Who cares what Christianity is based in? You better learn how to fear God, or you will be destroyed. Once you learn the Fear, then you will find the salvation and the love that replaces the fear.

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October 20, 2015, 09:24:05 PM
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Mankind was made in God's image.

You contradict yourself.

the Adam and Eve story is the truth
What you are telling me is that:
A God of Creation capable of ordering a universe [caused] his most precious creations to be a mud sculpture and a rib-bone birthed in sin.

You are so blind that you can't even see the thing that I am telling you. Here it is.

God made mankind perfect.
Mankind threw away the perfection by sinning.
Jesus-God brought perfection back for mankind.
Folks like you are disregarding this final perfection,
and losing even it thereby.

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October 20, 2015, 09:24:24 PM
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When you place the above Bible passages in context with everything else written in the New Testament, you will find that Jesus was a man, sent from His Father (therefore also God), lived a completely righteous life, died an innocent death on a cross, arose to life on the third day after his death, and ascended into Heaven 40 days later.

Not true; when you read those while using reason, you will see that it is not his BEING which has any merit, and that
1) he never ONCE suggested that he was your "SAVIOR".
2) WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS GOD HE SAID, “THEY say as much."
3) The New Commandment he gave was "follow my example", "love others as I have loved you"; he gave no Commandment to believe in a savior.

This will become even MORE apparent when you read those books which the "authorities" would rather you DID NOT read, like the Gnostic Gospels and the Phoenix Journals.

He speaks to the individual who wants to find God as a personal experience, to attain what some might call grace, or God-consciousness, or enlightenment.

Jesus wanted his followers to evolve, to reach awareness of the Kingdom of God within.

Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is--someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.
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October 20, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
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We just hate stupid people.  Roll Eyes

But first we feel sorry for stupid people.    Roll Eyes

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October 20, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
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When you place the above Bible passages in context with everything else written in the New Testament, you will find that Jesus was a man, sent from His Father (therefore also God), lived a completely righteous life, died an innocent death on a cross, arose to life on the third day after his death, and ascended into Heaven 40 days later.

Not true; when you read those while using reason, you will see that it is not his BEING which has any merit, and that he never ONCE suggested that he was your "SAVIOR". This will become even MORE apparent when you read those books which the "authorities" would rather you DID NOT read, like the Gnostic Gospels and the Phoenix Journals.

He speaks to the individual who wants to find God as a personal experience, to attain what some might call grace, or God-consciousness, or enlightenment.

Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is--someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.

You can't separate Jesus from His Being. The devil tried that, and though are trying it again, you will fail, just like the devil did.

You are welcome to not accept what the Bible says about Jesus being your salvation. Jesus, by His work of salvation, brought Godness back to you. Thus it is your right to reject even your Godness as you are doing.

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October 20, 2015, 09:29:22 PM
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Who cares what Christianity is based in? You better learn how to fear God, or you will be destroyed. Once you learn the Fear, then you will find the salvation and the love that replaces the fear.

Now we learn from BADecker that FEAR is the source of salvation.
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October 20, 2015, 09:33:12 PM
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Who cares what Christianity is based in? You better learn how to fear God, or you will be destroyed. Once you learn the Fear, then you will find the salvation and the love that replaces the fear.

Now we learn from BADecker that FEAR is the source of salvation.

If you as an unbeliever in salvation, don't have fear regarding your impending doom and eternal destruction, why would you begin to think that you might need salvation? Not all the time, but most of the time, fear comes first.

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October 20, 2015, 09:41:26 PM
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Like I said, when we see the exhortations of Jesus as invitations to join him on a higher spiritual plane, his words suddenly make sense.

1) he never ONCE suggested that he was your "SAVIOR".
2) WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS GOD HE SAID, “THEY say as much."
3) The New Commandment he gave was "follow my example", "love others as I have loved you"; he gave no Commandment to believe in a savior.

He speaks to the individual who wants to find God as a personal experience, to attain what some might call grace, or God-consciousness, or enlightenment. This point is made especially clear in Chopra's book "The Third Jesus".

Jesus wanted his followers to evolve, to reach awareness of the Kingdom of God within.

The cosmic Christ is the spiritual guide whose teaching embraces all humanity, not just the church built in his name. Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is--someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.
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October 20, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
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Like I said, when we see the exhortations of Jesus as invitations to join him on a higher spiritual plane, his words suddenly make sense.

1) he never ONCE suggested that he was your "SAVIOR".
2) WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS GOD HE SAID, “THEY say as much."
3) The New Commandment he gave was "follow my example", "love others as I have loved you"; he gave no Commandment to believe in a savior.

He speaks to the individual who wants to find God as a personal experience, to attain what some might call grace, or God-consciousness, or enlightenment. This point is made especially clear in Chopra's book "The Third Jesus".

Jesus wanted his followers to evolve, to reach awareness of the Kingdom of God within.

The cosmic Christ is the spiritual guide whose teaching embraces all humanity, not just the church built in his name. Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is--someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.

In a simplistic way, Jesus wanted His followers to "evolve" to a true understanding of God and salvation.

Since you ignore what the Bible says at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12690846#msg12690846 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12741055#msg12741055, you have no credibility in suggesting that Jesus doesn't offer salvation, yes, even to you.

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October 20, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
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We just hate stupid people.  Roll Eyes

But first we feel sorry for stupid people.    Roll Eyes

BADecker for President!



Atheism is just a dead end.


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October 20, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
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We just hate stupid people.  Roll Eyes

But first we feel sorry for stupid people.    Roll Eyes

BADecker for President!



Atheism is just a dead end.

In the 2005 movie, Sahara, the bad guy was inadvertently dumping loads of toxic waste into the ground around the Niger River in Mali, Africa. The toxic waste was getting into the Niger, and was threatening to make it down to the Atlantic Ocean, where it would destroy ocean life, and, ultimately the Atlantic Ocean.

Dirk Pitt, and his buddy Al Giordino, had just made it into the main office of the plant to shut it down. But, there was nobody there, 'cause the bad guy was going to blow the plant, and everyone had fled so they wouldn't get killed in the explosion.

The script went like this:

Dirk Pitt: Hey, Al?
Al Giordino: Yeah.
Dirk Pitt: What would you do if you were about to be exposed as the worst polluter of modern times?
Al Giordino: I don't know. Run for president?



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October 20, 2015, 11:41:01 PM
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In the 2005 movie, Sahara, the bad guy was inadvertently dumping loads of toxic waste into the ground around the Niger River in Mali, Africa. The toxic waste was getting into the Niger, and was threatening to make it down to the Atlantic Ocean, where it would destroy ocean life, and, ultimately the Atlantic Ocean.

Dirk Pitt, and his buddy Al Giordino, had just made it into the main office of the plant to shut it down. But, there was nobody there, 'cause the bad guy was going to blow the plant, and everyone had fled so they wouldn't get killed in the explosion.

The script went like this:

Dirk Pitt: Hey, Al?
Al Giordino: Yeah.
Dirk Pitt: What would you do if you were about to be exposed as the worst polluter of modern times?
Al Giordino: I don't know. Run for president?



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Atheism is just a dead end.

And Christians like power.


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In the 2005 movie, Sahara, the bad guy was inadvertently dumping loads of toxic waste into the ground around the Niger River in Mali, Africa. The toxic waste was getting into the Niger, and was threatening to make it down to the Atlantic Ocean, where it would destroy ocean life, and, ultimately the Atlantic Ocean.

Dirk Pitt, and his buddy Al Giordino, had just made it into the main office of the plant to shut it down. But, there was nobody there, 'cause the bad guy was going to blow the plant, and everyone had fled so they wouldn't get killed in the explosion.

The script went like this:

Dirk Pitt: Hey, Al?
Al Giordino: Yeah.
Dirk Pitt: What would you do if you were about to be exposed as the worst polluter of modern times?
Al Giordino: I don't know. Run for president?



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Atheism is just a dead end.

And Christians like power.

St. Paul says that Christians own everything. Think of owning all the energy in the universe. Now, that's power.

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October 20, 2015, 11:44:54 PM
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St. Paul says that Christians own everything. Think of owning all the energy in the universe. Now, that's power.

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I'm not gay sorry.

I was just searching for a way of facing atheism, now I know (70pages and 3 months after): atheism is a dead end.


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October 20, 2015, 11:51:37 PM
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I'm not gay sorry.


Why are you sorry that you are not gay? Some folks think that gay is the IN thing. You still have a chance to change your mind.   

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Why are you sorry that you are not gay? Some folks think that gay is the IN thing. You still have a chance to change your mind.   

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And you respect the Pope.


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