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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
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July 28, 2018, 02:45:24 PM |
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Of course, evidence is based on what is empirical observable.
If what we can observe (not necessarily with our senses, since we already know they don't show us what reality is, on the atomic and subatomic level) is completely real is a different issue.
But what we observe can kill us.
What people believe in out of pure faith will have a much harder time killing them.
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Solmir
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July 28, 2018, 06:05:06 PM |
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Im an atheist because i simply never believe in something that has been never prooved. And the only proof that god exists is a bible,a book made thousands year ago by some naive people who got tricked with jesus magical tricks.
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.
Why does religion matter? Keep it at home and in your holy temple.
Thats it.. That is where it belongs. Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.
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MetalKript
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I don't understand how people can believe in GOD if so many scientific discoveries have been made.Of course it is easier to rely on God not on yourself and blame God in your failures.That's why I don't believe in God.
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"There is no use to invent a helping imaginary "friend" who will offer you immortality."
---> I think its important to start something like this if we had experiences joining in the church of what we believe we belong. Being an atheist is a choice, but I love being a theist yet unpractical. It gives me freedom of what is like to be me now. Yet from time to time I've been experiencing a little pain that something is different, something is untold, something is unimaginable inside happening, feels like the energy you used to is not empowered. I think everything is a choice.
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I don't understand how people can believe in GOD if so many scientific discoveries have been made.Of course it is easier to rely on God not on yourself and blame God in your failures.That's why I don't believe in God.
I don't understand how people can believe that the universe and the planets in that universe just magically came to be. Also, I never heard someone blaming God for failures, would be kind of weird, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
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Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
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Moloch
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August 10, 2018, 02:34:12 AM |
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Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Why is it so obvious to everyone that Scientology, Mormons, etc are bullshit cults, but they can't see it in their own religion?
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Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
I'm an atheist, but the idea that the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved demonstrates how intellectually weak we are...
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August 13, 2018, 10:09:30 PM |
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Moloch
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August 15, 2018, 02:09:37 AM |
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Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
I'm an atheist, but the idea that the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved demonstrates how intellectually weak we are... Nobody can prove there isn't a Flying Spaghetti Monster either, but it doesn't make the idea plausible God could easily be proven true, all he has to do is show himself to the world... If he really is god, that would be easy, right? But alas, god is the hide and seek champion of the universe for 2000 years running We can test claims about god, like the efficacy of prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer#The_STEP_projectHarvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006.[39] The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications".[40] Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3) According to this study, knowing that people are praying for you gives a worse result (note: Templeton Foundation is a religious organization)
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August 15, 2018, 01:11:48 PM |
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Harvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006.[39] The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications".[40] Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3) According to this study, knowing that people are praying for you gives a worse result (note: Templeton Foundation is a religious organization) All you are saying is that if people don't know that they are being prayed for, the results are better. 
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August 16, 2018, 02:40:34 PM |
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Very many points there. I understand that with your mindset, these are great arguments. And many people actually share this view too. But it doesn't take much time before one realizes that these arguments are straw-man. Of course, I don't have as much time as you to pick at everything. But I will touch on one. You made a point about God asking, "Who created me?" This really portrays a very shallow understanding of the image of the God most religions present. If God is still seen as All-knowing, Almighty and Omnipresent, then this question doesn't even arise in anyway. If he created time, space and matter, then He certainly exists outside it.
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August 16, 2018, 02:44:07 PM |
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We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
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August 16, 2018, 04:54:57 PM Last edit: August 16, 2018, 05:37:54 PM by BADecker |
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There aren't any atheists, because way down deep, nobody believes that God doesn't exist. The fact that someone suggests that God doesn't exist, shows that this so-called atheist is setting himself up to be a god, by suggesting something that he can't know for a fact... that God doesn't exist. So, he is self-contradictory setting himself up as a god, while at the same time claiming that he doesn't exist when he says that God doesn't exist. 
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Life’s better without him Religion is about control and limitation. Rules, laws and rituals that restrict and govern behaviour. In some cases – say the genital mutilation of infants in barbaric rites of passage practised by religions such as Judiasm – they actually persuade nice people to do awful things.
Which is to say nothing of the countless other horrors committed in the name of God and religion. Suicide bombings, torture, genocide, forced marriages, unwanted babies, war – the list is endless.
A life without religion and without God thus offers freedom from all of these miseries. It offers a person the opportunity to do what they like, in line with their own moral code, within the parameters of the society in which they live. Each decision to be taken is evaluated on its own merits, weighing up the pros and cons, and is not forced down a path by a pre-existing code of conduct dating from a time of ignorance and superstition.
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August 17, 2018, 01:36:37 PM |
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Everybody who is an atheist, is so because he wants to be, not because there is any lack of evidence/proof for the existence of God. 
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August 18, 2018, 12:52:48 AM |
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This thread have been repeating all over again. Well as far as the bitcoin is concern, religion can be bias and with political views that some people does not want at their own. Most probably people are earning love nor people are earning money in getting what they want just because they attach or stick to their own. In my personal experience, religion forms heirarchy wherein people can be renowned in her own ways. Some religion claim that they are saved. Anything that is rude to me is not similiar in everybody's eyes. So it does mean that all of us have their own views and prerogative on what religion you will took.
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August 18, 2018, 01:53:36 PM |
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I am an atheist because i don't want to work for someone and make that person rich from my work.
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August 18, 2018, 02:51:01 PM |
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I am an atheist because i don't want to work for someone and make that person rich from my work.
What does being independently wealthy have to do with being an atheist? 
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August 24, 2018, 05:13:21 AM |
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It has surely to do with education. I am sure we get introduced to religion since childhood. Moreover, you learn about it from people you live with it or on daily basis. Maybe you are not ready. Philosophy, science and religion are the same. Their role is to teach people. They just show us what can be done in a society and what should not. I know that science and religion clashes often but it is because people were immature in the past. Philosophy, the mother of all sciences is closely linked to religion. The first universities were created by priests. I believe people are atheist because they lack knowledge or are just not ready to open their heart.
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