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It's impossible to have a conversation on this thread. Between boki's insane off topic criminal accusations to WildShark posting, deleting, reposting, deleting then reposting again, nothing gets accomplished. I'm starting to believe this is planned so no information actually gets discussed.
I saw rdewilde on slack providing a free tool to archive the slack conversations. He had to repeat it several times before someone pretended to care. This team is all about the obfuscation of information.
Funny how no one ever mentions Franz's continual trolling I guess it all depends on what side of the fence your on. I gave up trying to answer questions about 150 pages ago Funny how your very first post in this forum (and in this thread since you don't seem to have posted anywhere else) is on page 37, i.e. ~130 pages ago. So giving up 150 pages ago is basically your creative way of saying that you never even started "to answer questions". I'm glad we have that cleared up. And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic
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Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
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September 06, 2016, 11:43:37 PM |
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why is there so much variation in the community masternode payouts?
Each weekly payout has variation because it is based on the amount of block rewards all the Community MNs have earned for previous week. These total block rewards are then divided by the number of active shares to produce the payout per share. If you didn't purchase your IONs at the ICO, Now is a good time to stock up on them... Pick up 20K IONs and invest in an ION masternode or for the small investors, buy a couple of Shares in a community masternode at the Market Place @ https://ionno.de One share is currently paying out approximately 1.1 IONs per share per week. Looking for some "small fish" and big investors to invest in an ION masternode... Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout for 5 September: MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 333.56552 IONs MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 563.65069251 IONs MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 368.0065525 IONs MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 540.501035 IONs Total Payout - 1805.72380001 IONs Daily Average Masternode Reward - 64.49013571464286 IONs @ 16 cents = $10.32 dollars Minus 2% Pool Fee - 1769.6093240098 IONs by 1609 shares = 1.099819343697825 IONs per Share
Join the Ionomy today and start making a few coins to spend or put away for a rainy day!!! Is there any rhyme or reason as to why certain masternodes stake more than others? The masternode staking is based on the algorithm implement in the ION block chain. This algorithm factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. This algorithm does not consider the investment strategy of any ION investor. can you explain how this algorithm works? Did the people behind the community masternode screw something up to get such wide variation between their nodes? If experts like them can't maximize the returns for all their nodes, how do you expect a newcomer to do that? The difference between 1/3 or 2/4 could be written off as variance, but if there is so much variance that a properly run node may produce 540 or 333 in one day it seems like a very risky gamble.
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September 06, 2016, 11:45:00 PM |
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It's impossible to have a conversation on this thread. Between boki's insane off topic criminal accusations to WildShark posting, deleting, reposting, deleting then reposting again, nothing gets accomplished. I'm starting to believe this is planned so no information actually gets discussed.
I saw rdewilde on slack providing a free tool to archive the slack conversations. He had to repeat it several times before someone pretended to care. This team is all about the obfuscation of information.
Funny how no one ever mentions Franz's continual trolling I guess it all depends on what side of the fence your on. I gave up trying to answer questions about 150 pages ago Funny how your very first post in this forum (and in this thread since you don't seem to have posted anywhere else) is on page 37, i.e. ~130 pages ago. So giving up 150 pages ago is basically your creative way of saying that you never even started "to answer questions". I'm glad we have that cleared up. And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic
What's your point Franz Suchmoon. I assume I'm allowed to point fingers as You Franz did the same accusing me of being Korfax And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxicWhat is even funnier is my first post is still valid after 100+ pages, the only difference is the reasons why ION is a scam and the team can't be trusted have changed. You know what I'm gonna say next as you read my post history but for those that haven't to be 100% clear I don't give a shit if people invest or not. What I care about is trolls like you Franz who at ever opportunity try to stick the knife in unwilling to let ION evolve. I am proud to be an investor in ION and know if my ION motivation was greed or ill intent then I too would be sitting on your side hoping the price would drop so I could buy more ION. Ultimately ION's success or failure will be down to their ability to implement their plan NOT coming here wasting time answering questions by people with ill intent..... unfortunately some do ask honest questions wanting to have a proper disscussion but like many things in life it's the few that ruin it for the many. Your being kinda anal going through all my post history and quoting my first post but thank you, I feel honored that a master troll would take time out of their busy schedule to do that ......... It's almost like when I wrote it I knew that one day someone would quote it, 2 bits of troll bashing for the price of one .... but then that would make me clever so I guess I be just lucky. And yes this thread on BCT is the only place here I post, this is a fun thread and you are all such nice people
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September 07, 2016, 12:07:28 AM |
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Don't flatter yourself. My only interest in you is your lies, so as long as you keep doing that you'll have my attention. Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
I was browsing around ionomy slack too, had a good laugh at this bizarre fight between some random dude and some other dude's wife, and also he-who-must-not-be-named bragging about taking bitcointalk down. Not quite the level of hashtalk entertainment but funny nonetheless. No useful info to put on the FAQ sadly. And activity seems to be down from what it was a couple of months ago.
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September 07, 2016, 12:57:50 AM |
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why is there so much variation in the community masternode payouts?
Each weekly payout has variation because it is based on the amount of block rewards all the Community MNs have earned for previous week. These total block rewards are then divided by the number of active shares to produce the payout per share. If you didn't purchase your IONs at the ICO, Now is a good time to stock up on them... Pick up 20K IONs and invest in an ION masternode or for the small investors, buy a couple of Shares in a community masternode at the Market Place @ https://ionno.de One share is currently paying out approximately 1.1 IONs per share per week. Looking for some "small fish" and big investors to invest in an ION masternode... Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout for 5 September: MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 333.56552 IONs MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 563.65069251 IONs MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 368.0065525 IONs MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 540.501035 IONs Total Payout - 1805.72380001 IONs Daily Average Masternode Reward - 64.49013571464286 IONs @ 16 cents = $10.32 dollars Minus 2% Pool Fee - 1769.6093240098 IONs by 1609 shares = 1.099819343697825 IONs per Share
Join the Ionomy today and start making a few coins to spend or put away for a rainy day!!! Is there any rhyme or reason as to why certain masternodes stake more than others? The masternode staking is based on the algorithm implement in the ION block chain. This algorithm factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. This algorithm does not consider the investment strategy of any ION investor. The difference between 1/3 or 2/4 could be written off as variance, but if there is so much variance that a properly run node may produce 540 or 333 in one day it seems like a very risky gamble. The variance is not for a day, it is for a week (7 days).
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September 07, 2016, 01:32:55 AM |
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why is there so much variation in the community masternode payouts?
Each weekly payout has variation because it is based on the amount of block rewards all the Community MNs have earned for previous week. These total block rewards are then divided by the number of active shares to produce the payout per share. If you didn't purchase your IONs at the ICO, Now is a good time to stock up on them... Pick up 20K IONs and invest in an ION masternode or for the small investors, buy a couple of Shares in a community masternode at the Market Place @ https://ionno.de One share is currently paying out approximately 1.1 IONs per share per week. Looking for some "small fish" and big investors to invest in an ION masternode... Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout for 5 September: MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 333.56552 IONs MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 563.65069251 IONs MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 368.0065525 IONs MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 540.501035 IONs Total Payout - 1805.72380001 IONs Daily Average Masternode Reward - 64.49013571464286 IONs @ 16 cents = $10.32 dollars Minus 2% Pool Fee - 1769.6093240098 IONs by 1609 shares = 1.099819343697825 IONs per Share
Join the Ionomy today and start making a few coins to spend or put away for a rainy day!!! Is there any rhyme or reason as to why certain masternodes stake more than others? The masternode staking is based on the algorithm implement in the ION block chain. This algorithm factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. This algorithm does not consider the investment strategy of any ION investor. The difference between 1/3 or 2/4 could be written off as variance, but if there is so much variance that a properly run node may produce 540 or 333 in one day it seems like a very risky gamble. The variance is not for a day, it is for a week (7 days). that makes it even worse. How can there be that much variance over a week unless something is wrong? if something went wrong, can it be fixed? If nothing is wrong why would someone take the time to make a node when someone else can do the same thing and get so many more ions based on luck?
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September 07, 2016, 03:21:22 AM |
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Don't flatter yourself. My only interest in you is your lies, so as long as you keep doing that you'll have my attention. Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
I was browsing around ionomy slack too, had a good laugh at this bizarre fight between some random dude and some other dude's wife, and also he-who-must-not-be-named bragging about taking bitcointalk down. Not quite the level of hashtalk entertainment but funny nonetheless. No useful info to put on the FAQ sadly. And activity seems to be down from what it was a couple of months ago. Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick
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September 07, 2016, 07:30:43 AM |
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It's impossible to have a conversation on this thread. Between boki's insane off topic criminal accusations to WildShark posting, deleting, reposting, deleting then reposting again, nothing gets accomplished. I'm starting to believe this is planned so no information actually gets discussed.
I saw rdewilde on slack providing a free tool to archive the slack conversations. He had to repeat it several times before someone pretended to care. This team is all about the obfuscation of information.
Funny how no one ever mentions Franz's continual trolling I guess it all depends on what side of the fence your on. I gave up trying to answer questions about 150 pages ago Funny how your very first post in this forum (and in this thread since you don't seem to have posted anywhere else) is on page 37, i.e. ~130 pages ago. So giving up 150 pages ago is basically your creative way of saying that you never even started "to answer questions". I'm glad we have that cleared up. And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic
What's your point Franz Suchmoon. I assume I'm allowed to point fingers as You Franz did the same accusing me of being Korfax And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxicWhat is even funnier is my first post is still valid after 100+ pages, the only difference is the reasons why ION is a scam and the team can't be trusted have changed. You know what I'm gonna say next as you read my post history but for those that haven't to be 100% clear I don't give a shit if people invest or not. What I care about is trolls like you Franz who at ever opportunity try to stick the knife in unwilling to let ION evolve. I am proud to be an investor in ION and know if my ION motivation was greed or ill intent then I too would be sitting on your side hoping the price would drop so I could buy more ION. Ultimately ION's success or failure will be down to their ability to implement their plan NOT coming here wasting time answering questions by people with ill intent..... unfortunately some do ask honest questions wanting to have a proper disscussion but like many things in life it's the few that ruin it for the many. Your being kinda anal going through all my post history and quoting my first post but thank you, I feel honored that a master troll would take time out of their busy schedule to do that ......... It's almost like when I wrote it I knew that one day someone would quote it, 2 bits of troll bashing for the price of one .... but then that would make me clever so I guess I be just lucky. And yes this thread on BCT is the only place here I post, this is a fun thread and you are all such nice people Honestly though you all said the same about paycoin and garza. Its about the vision we don't understand. Why would garza come here to answer questions if he's just shot down. Serious few questions i'd appreciate you to answer. 1 - How long is too long for ion team to implement their vision? Much like cryptsy etc how long is too long before people should be suspicious of it going anywhere? Answer properly please. Soon or when its done isn't a good answer. Myself? If i invested i would have a reasonable expectation that my ico money would develop the product as i spent in good faith that it was happening. I'd likely expect 3-5 months max for the game etc to be released being such a simple game etc. I'd be weary after that. 2 - Don't you think both sides deserve to have questions answered? All questions in the world aren't asked from an angle where someone can answer and everyone cheers. Team ion did come out saying we aren't xpy we are transparent etc but wouldn't you agree its been anything but for the funds? If not are you able to identify posts or comments from huey that are showing how much of the ico is left and where and who it has been spent on? Investors expected it to be used as was stated. UP until now i see no mention anywhere of dev bounties etc being actually used. $300k isn't a small some of money and something could of been purchased with it now product wise. Overall it doesn't matter how much bad troll press you think ion is getting it won't affect the project if its legit. Also them coming and answering if its fact based and they can show transparency and prove their actions no bad comments can actually affect it. Microsoft, apple, valve many companies have haters but their products shine and they get bad press. If ion has that weak of a spine and can't actually address questions and criticisms then i honestly think they have poor business practices and sense. I would not be confident they can compete if this is the case. Sitting in the shadows is only for people with something to hide (this applies when money is involved).
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September 07, 2016, 07:34:07 AM |
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Don't flatter yourself. My only interest in you is your lies, so as long as you keep doing that you'll have my attention. Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
I was browsing around ionomy slack too, had a good laugh at this bizarre fight between some random dude and some other dude's wife, and also he-who-must-not-be-named bragging about taking bitcointalk down. Not quite the level of hashtalk entertainment but funny nonetheless. No useful info to put on the FAQ sadly. And activity seems to be down from what it was a couple of months ago. Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Supergiant is a poor example as from what i can see they didn't solicit funds from the public to make a game. When you self fund you have that option. Any investors always have updates and transparent information. Do you think big companies would invest without info and accept being told give us money but go away if you don't like no news? The difference here is ionomy took customer funds and said at the start they were being transparent. As of now their definition of transparency matches garzas definition of escrow when he did it himself.
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Well WildShark, the ion team stated (or the forum moderators) that you did not earn your whale status, you paid for it like everyone else. See below: "For the record; WildVaHawk (Sharky / Wildy) bought his atoms like everyone else did, whatever their status - there were no free Atoms issued. No one gets preferential treatment and thus no one can 'earn' Whale status. WildVaHawk purchased all his Atoms off the Marketplace auctions on https://ionomy.com" I left my explanation for "earn" and comment from the forum moderator on ION Talk thread and can be viewed @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/whale-status-ion/201/And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic
Forgive me if I am misunderstanding, but that means you earned whale status with XPY. And remember, ION and XPY are not related. So you indeed purchased your ION whale status then. If XPY and ION are not related, you didn't earn ION whale status. If you are adamant that you earned ION whale status, then XPY and ION must indeed be related.
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Don't flatter yourself. My only interest in you is your lies, so as long as you keep doing that you'll have my attention. Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
I was browsing around ionomy slack too, had a good laugh at this bizarre fight between some random dude and some other dude's wife, and also he-who-must-not-be-named bragging about taking bitcointalk down. Not quite the level of hashtalk entertainment but funny nonetheless. No useful info to put on the FAQ sadly. And activity seems to be down from what it was a couple of months ago. Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Did Supergiant solicit customer funds to develop their platform? Did they provide expectations to said customers of 1 game release per month? Let's compare apples to apples here, not some example to further your agenda in validating TeamIONs utter disregard for proper communication.
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Don't flatter yourself. My only interest in you is your lies, so as long as you keep doing that you'll have my attention. Some classy slack arguing going on, good showing for new investors. If you don't agree with the core 10 or so people they bully and gang up on you. And they sit and complain cause BitcoinTalk is harsh. News flash, ION slack is the same damn thing. I'm no wall of awesomeness, but it's pretty pitiful they think they are high and mighty and nice but treat users, ahem, potential customers, like dicks if they don't agree that ION is awesome.
I now have seen rdewilde ask two rather important questions, go ignored so he pinned it and it is still unaddressed, to my knowledge. Folks, they straight up ignore and blow off some of their most loyal followers/contributors, there's no chance they will ever be transparent to anyone outside the Ionomy.
I was browsing around ionomy slack too, had a good laugh at this bizarre fight between some random dude and some other dude's wife, and also he-who-must-not-be-named bragging about taking bitcointalk down. Not quite the level of hashtalk entertainment but funny nonetheless. No useful info to put on the FAQ sadly. And activity seems to be down from what it was a couple of months ago. Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Supergiant is a poor example as from what i can see they didn't solicit funds from the public to make a game. When you self fund you have that option. Any investors always have updates and transparent information. Do you think big companies would invest without info and accept being told give us money but go away if you don't like no news? The difference here is ionomy took customer funds and said at the start they were being transparent. As of now their definition of transparency matches garzas definition of escrow when he did it himself. sorry don't have the time to post a proper response, my posts were directed to Franz Suchmoon who called me a liar, but a couple of comments The big big difference is Garza was a thief with intent to steal millions, the ION team aren't....... time will of course tell whose right/wrong. Anyone who thinks there is a 1% chance this is a scam should not make any investment or if you can't resist then temper your commit. At this stage irrelevant of intent this like all crypto is a high risk project so stay within your comfort zone 1) My red flag would be end of December if the situation is the same now in January this for me would be a cause for concern. I appreciate it's difficult to set timelines when you try to create something from nothing but that kind of delay without a satisfactory explanation would for me not be good 2) No I don't agree. You see on one side you have people that show interest on the other side the ION team that are holding peoples ICO money. if something is released and it's broken, easily exploited or gives away a competitive advantage to richer more resourced competitors, for good or ill today the risk today just isn't worth it. Plus today I would rather the ICO is spent on moving their business plan forward as opposed to paying for someone to do the PR or taking a developer away from their work to stare at forums 3) The reason I picked Supergiant is they are small development team. Whenever someone says companies like Apple, EA, Samsung keep secrets the response is yes but that is because they are big. I can understand why small companies keep their cards close to their chest. Something is released and it's broken or information given gives a competitor an advantage the big company just takes a big on their share price, they learn then recover. Whereas with a small company the damage can be far worse as the pockets aren't as deep to fund a recovery. What company would you say would be a good benchmark I don't know of any that has seen success and show a level of transparency some people are demanding
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Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Ok, let's start by you showing where I claimed that ionomy is a scam. Let's call it your #1 lie. Next is how you "gave up" before you even started. Then is the whole "you are Franz" bullshit. Then "it's not 12 cents", oops, I mean I can't buy 20k. As for your straw men and ad hominems - getting boring, there are other logical fallacies you could employ.
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why is there so much variation in the community masternode payouts?
Each weekly payout has variation because it is based on the amount of block rewards all the Community MNs have earned for previous week. These total block rewards are then divided by the number of active shares to produce the payout per share. If you didn't purchase your IONs at the ICO, Now is a good time to stock up on them... Pick up 20K IONs and invest in an ION masternode or for the small investors, buy a couple of Shares in a community masternode at the Market Place @ https://ionno.de One share is currently paying out approximately 1.1 IONs per share per week. Looking for some "small fish" and big investors to invest in an ION masternode... Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout for 5 September: MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 333.56552 IONs MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 563.65069251 IONs MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 368.0065525 IONs MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 540.501035 IONs Total Payout - 1805.72380001 IONs Daily Average Masternode Reward - 64.49013571464286 IONs @ 16 cents = $10.32 dollars Minus 2% Pool Fee - 1769.6093240098 IONs by 1609 shares = 1.099819343697825 IONs per Share
Join the Ionomy today and start making a few coins to spend or put away for a rainy day!!! Is there any rhyme or reason as to why certain masternodes stake more than others? The masternode staking is based on the algorithm implement in the ION block chain. This algorithm factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. This algorithm does not consider the investment strategy of any ION investor. The difference between 1/3 or 2/4 could be written off as variance, but if there is so much variance that a properly run node may produce 540 or 333 in one day it seems like a very risky gamble. The variance is not for a day, it is for a week (7 days). that makes it even worse. How can there be that much variance over a week unless something is wrong? How those that make it worst??? You agree that there can be a daily variance. But you then disagree with a variance when multiplied by 7 days??? It looks like you are very confused by not carefully reading the information I am posting?
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September 07, 2016, 01:59:09 PM |
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Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Ok, let's start by you showing where I claimed that ionomy is a scam. Let's call it your #1 lie. Next is how you "gave up" before you even started. Then is the whole "you are Franz" bullshit. Then "it's not 12 cents", oops, I mean I can't buy 20k. As for your straw men and ad hominems - getting boring, there are other logical fallacies you could employ. Okay so from what you know today are ION & the team a scam A). Yes They are a scam B). No They are not a scam A) or B) For whatever reason you've gone down this road of guilty till proven innocent and don't give a shit for the implications of disclosure. I've been on BCT longer than you have and have yet to see a company provide the level of detail your asking for. If you know of a company that meets your level of disclosure please share as it's much easier for them to follow than to lead. Concerning Franz I'm just using your criteria of guilty til proven innocent you messed up your dates and slipped up so until you can prove your not Franz i'll treat you and encourage others to do the same As for your last comment I have no idea what you mean so you'll have to elborate if you want a response
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suchmoon
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September 07, 2016, 02:02:06 PM |
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How those that make it worst??? You agree that there can be a daily variance. But you then disagree with a variance when multiplied by 7 days??? It looks like you are very confused by not reading the information I am posting?
That's not how variance works. This is supposed to be a random distribution so the longer the interval the closer it should be to the expected value, which is I think ~ 11.5 * 60 * 24 * 7 / number_of_masternodes for the week. If the variance "multiplies" then it's not random anymore, there is something wrong with that node if it consistently underperforms.
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September 07, 2016, 02:02:12 PM |
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why is there so much variation in the community masternode payouts?
Each weekly payout has variation because it is based on the amount of block rewards all the Community MNs have earned for previous week. These total block rewards are then divided by the number of active shares to produce the payout per share. If you didn't purchase your IONs at the ICO, Now is a good time to stock up on them... Pick up 20K IONs and invest in an ION masternode or for the small investors, buy a couple of Shares in a community masternode at the Market Place @ https://ionno.de One share is currently paying out approximately 1.1 IONs per share per week. Looking for some "small fish" and big investors to invest in an ION masternode... Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout for 5 September: MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 333.56552 IONs MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 563.65069251 IONs MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 368.0065525 IONs MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 540.501035 IONs Total Payout - 1805.72380001 IONs Daily Average Masternode Reward - 64.49013571464286 IONs @ 16 cents = $10.32 dollars Minus 2% Pool Fee - 1769.6093240098 IONs by 1609 shares = 1.099819343697825 IONs per Share
Join the Ionomy today and start making a few coins to spend or put away for a rainy day!!! Is there any rhyme or reason as to why certain masternodes stake more than others? The masternode staking is based on the algorithm implement in the ION block chain. This algorithm factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. This algorithm does not consider the investment strategy of any ION investor. The difference between 1/3 or 2/4 could be written off as variance, but if there is so much variance that a properly run node may produce 540 or 333 in one day it seems like a very risky gamble. The variance is not for a day, it is for a week (7 days). that makes it even worse. How can there be that much variance over a week unless something is wrong? How those that make it worst??? You agree that there can be a daily variance. But you then disagree with a variance when multiplied by 7 days??? It looks like you are very confused by not carefully reading the information I am posting? The variance should even out over time if it really just luck. How are you OK with such variance over a week?
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WildShark
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September 07, 2016, 02:09:25 PM |
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How those that make it worst??? You agree that there can be a daily variance. But you then disagree with a variance when multiplied by 7 days??? It looks like you are very confused by not reading the information I am posting?
That's not how variance works. This is supposed to be a random distribution so the longer the interval the closer it should be to the expected value, which is I think ~ 11.5 * 60 * 24 * 7 / number_of_masternodes for the week. If the variance "multiplies" then it's not random anymore, there is something wrong with that node if it consistently underperforms. var·i·ance /ˈverēəns/ noun noun: variance; plural noun: variances the fact or quality of being different, divergent, or inconsistent. your last posting contradicts the definition of variance and I believe you were explaining standard deviation. To sum it in a nut shell, the variance is determined by the algorithm that factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. Neither of these factors were cited in my data.
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September 07, 2016, 02:10:14 PM |
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Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ? What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!! A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO. If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick Ok, let's start by you showing where I claimed that ionomy is a scam. Let's call it your #1 lie. Next is how you "gave up" before you even started. Then is the whole "you are Franz" bullshit. Then "it's not 12 cents", oops, I mean I can't buy 20k. As for your straw men and ad hominems - getting boring, there are other logical fallacies you could employ. Okay so from what you know today are ION & the team a scam A). Yes They are a scam B). No They are not a scam A) or B) For whatever reason you've gone down this road of guilty till proven innocent and don't give a shit for the implications of disclosure. I've been on BCT longer than you have and have yet to see a company provide the level of detail your asking for. If you know of a company that meets your level of disclosure please share as it's much easier for them to follow than to lead. Concerning Franz I'm just using your criteria of guilty til proven innocent you messed up your dates and slipped up so until you can prove your not Franz i'll treat you and encourage others to do the same As for your last comment I have no idea what you mean so you'll have to elborate if you want a response GetHashing is completely transparent. Ask them for any transparent information and they will hand it right over.
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