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October 12, 2013, 07:04:13 PM
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can someone explain exactly what the "hard reset" does...   does the firmware stay, or revert to...?


I have wrote in length in the other thread since this one turns to mud quickly


hard reset brings a lot of factory configs back. (if you dig around you will see files with .factory on them)
also, I found the only way to get the 4 VRM boards to overclock again is to do the hard reset, upgrade to pre.95 firmware and then shutdown and start up.  To do that I always quit cgminer, shutdown -h now, then pull the pin adapter plug out then turn off switch on power supply. 


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October 12, 2013, 07:07:17 PM
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ok, I have a serious problem....
aftre starting CGminer, I ssh'd in on another window, and discovered that there is another instance of cgminer running, the one with all the wrong info...
when I try to "Q"uit that instance, it ignores me
when i try to get "S"ettings it ignores me...etc
i have to start a second instance of cgminer for the miner to start
the pool info page changes the second instance, not the first, so when i restart, all the wrong info is back
apparantly it's been like this all along...
what to do?



Well, you could ssh into the Saturn, #ps aux | grep cgminer

Then, identifying the instances of cgminer that are running, jot down process numbers

Then #kill -9 12345 (the 12345 replaced with the process number of an instance of cgminer)

Then do the same for any additional instances of cgminer running

Then restart cgminer adn it should be the only instance running.




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October 12, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
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if anyone is interested in a detailed account of dealing with 4 VRM boards pre-.95 I posted it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3325981#msg3325981

For anyone that has been running overclocked 4 VRM boards (since that was the only firmware we had to choose from) then you might want to really think before switching to .95

If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs

overclocking?.... how are you doing that?

4 VRM boards with pre-.95 firmware FORCED us to overclock by running high voltage/amps from our VRMs.  The reason I was able to get to 520Gh stable on my miner with .93 was that the overclocking compensated for the HW errors and that .93 restarts often if you miner starts to drop performance.

You can notice overclocking by the WU value you have compared to the number of cores you have running.  When you run .95 on a 4 VRM miner you will see a big decrease in WU

Since I am stuck with running .94 I will try putting a cgminer restart in the cron for every 30mins or hour to keep performance up

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October 12, 2013, 07:11:02 PM
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ok, I have a serious problem....
aftre starting CGminer, I ssh'd in on another window, and discovered that there is another instance of cgminer running, the one with all the wrong info...
when I try to "Q"uit that instance, it ignores me
when i try to get "S"ettings it ignores me...etc
i have to start a second instance of cgminer for the miner to start
the pool info page changes the second instance, not the first, so when i restart, all the wrong info is back
apparantly it's been like this all along...
what to do?



You could try and kill the service.

Do a ps - ef | grep cgminer

Find the pid number. And do a.  kill -9 pid number

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October 12, 2013, 07:14:15 PM
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if anyone is interested in a detailed account of dealing with 4 VRM boards pre-.95 I posted it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3325981#msg3325981

For anyone that has been running overclocked 4 VRM boards (since that was the only firmware we had to choose from) then you might want to really think before switching to .95

If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs

Based on reports from users with Bertmod, 4 of the 8 VRM's were NEVER supplying power.

It IS possible they had some benifit but it was not to supply power.

If they did by some wierd fluke add some benifit, that could be added back using less expensive components.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled tangent.

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this thread is full of people who write first and read maybe


if you have been paying attention, boards with 8 VRMs and pre-.95 regulated all the VRMs to the low .70's range while the 4 VRM boards flew up to 80's and 90's

I have a miner that has one board with 8 VRMs and the rest 4 VRMs.  Here is a screen shot of it running .93 and it has been stable hashing ~520Gh rated at pool for days


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October 12, 2013, 07:16:42 PM
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ok, i can get 1 instance going... and i have added the bogus workername knc cut& pasted into the worker name field to the pool, so that should work....  BUT...  they added HTTP://  to the stratum address!!!!!  and i cant seem to get the settings to save to change it


So, my next question is.... what filename are they using for the config file, because its obviously not the default?


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October 12, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
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how do hard reset
because i do like the manual

and i can not know if i done or not(hard reset i mean)
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October 12, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
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If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs
Why isn't a 4 VRM board just as good as a 8 VRM in terms of hashrate?
I gotta call BS on that. I have  4VRM boards on my saturn that can do over 300Gh/s with the right firmware. .095 slowed it down
your 4vrm board is like that because there is a bad vrm, like you stated...  it has nothing to do with the amount, except if the other 4 were there, it would have had redundancy
I appreciate the firmware info, and am thinking of reverting to an earlier firmware also
which do you feel is best?


again for quick typers and slow readers, this miner didn't have a crap VRM until I switched it to .95.  It did have a lot of HW errors which the overclocking and the watchful cgminer restarts of .93 kept it producing ~520

Fact is that they should of tested the 4 VRMs and made adjustments before making the switch.  

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October 12, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
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if anyone is interested in a detailed account of dealing with 4 VRM boards pre-.95 I posted it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3325981#msg3325981

For anyone that has been running overclocked 4 VRM boards (since that was the only firmware we had to choose from) then you might want to really think before switching to .95

If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs

Based on reports from users with Bertmod, 4 of the 8 VRM's were NEVER supplying power.

It IS possible they had some benifit but it was not to supply power.

If they did by some wierd fluke add some benifit, that could be added back using less expensive components.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled tangent.

Smiley



this thread is full of people who write first and read maybe


if you have been paying attention, boards with 8 VRMs and pre-.95 regulated all the VRMs to the low .70's range while the 4 VRM boards flew up to 80's and 90's

I have a miner that has one board with 8 VRMs and the rest 4 VRMs.  Here is a screen shot of it running .93 and it has been stable hashing ~520Gh rated at pool for days



Thanks.  I hadn't looked at the numbers before.  Reason being I thought I'd get around to the non-KNC software after I finally get my miner and run it stock for a while.  I now appreciate the information!



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October 12, 2013, 07:26:24 PM
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ok, i can get 1 instance going... and i have added the bogus workername knc cut& pasted into the worker name field to the pool, so that should work....  BUT...  they added HTTP://  to the stratum address!!!!!  and i cant seem to get the settings to save to change it


So, my next question is.... what filename are they using for the config file, because its obviously not the default?

try #find / -name "miner.conf"




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October 12, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
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how do hard reset
because i do like the manual

and i can not know if i done or not(hard reset i mean)

the easiest way is to see if your SSH gets disabled.  That is part of the factory settings and you will have to go to services part of the web GUI and allow it again

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October 12, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
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i do hard reset but the ssh is enabled

i push 5 times the button
then let 5 seconds
and then push again 5 times the button

but nothing
what i do wrong?
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October 12, 2013, 07:36:02 PM
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What is a safe way to shut off the miner if I need to power it down?  This auto-run stuff is strange.  Okay to just pull the plug if I need to?
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October 12, 2013, 07:42:45 PM
 #15334

got it...its in another directory as /config/cgminer.conf instead of root....
-pico *.conf found it
saved to that file... drumroll...brb


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October 12, 2013, 07:50:26 PM
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Should I change pools or simply go back to firmware 0.94 Huh
Here's an average on 24 hours with firmware 0.94 and 0.95 :

--------------------0.940.95
Average CGminer270Gh/s274Gh/s
Average Bitminter275Gh/s263Gh/s
Consumption485 Watts  305 Watts
Temputure54 & 62°C42 & 47°C
HW2.81%0.79%

0.94
0.95

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October 12, 2013, 07:51:55 PM
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btw I have to agree with bitcoinorama that temps don't matter unless you are having shutdowns due to overheating issues.  I had a box fan laying on one of the Jupiters all night.  It dropped the temps 10-15 degrees but I seen no speed increase when periodically monitoring it.

The best medicine is to just use FW 0.95, at least for me.
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October 12, 2013, 07:53:38 PM
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Should I change pools or simply go back to firmware 0.94 Huh
Here's an average on 24 hours with firmware 0.94 and 0.95 :

                   0.940.95
Average CGminer270Gh/s274Gh/s
Average Bitminter  275Gh/s263Gh/s
Consumption485 Watts  305 Watts
Temputure54 & 62°C42 & 47°C
HW2.81%0.79%

0.94
0.95

Pool speed is where the real-payout is.  I'd concern myself more with that than what cgminer says.
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October 12, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
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THAT WAS IT!
the file you save your settings to in cgminer is:
/config/cgminer.conf

anyone who was auto-pointed to slush may have this to do, since they added http:// to the stratum address
It all works now... even the gui page is working now too!!!    Grin


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October 12, 2013, 07:57:12 PM
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if anyone is interested in a detailed account of dealing with 4 VRM boards pre-.95 I posted it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3325981#msg3325981

For anyone that has been running overclocked 4 VRM boards (since that was the only firmware we had to choose from) then you might want to really think before switching to .95

If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs

Based on reports from users with Bertmod, 4 of the 8 VRM's were NEVER supplying power.

It IS possible they had some benifit but it was not to supply power.

If they did by some wierd fluke add some benifit, that could be added back using less expensive components.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled tangent.

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this thread is full of people who write first and read maybe


if you have been paying attention, boards with 8 VRMs and pre-.95 regulated all the VRMs to the low .70's range while the 4 VRM boards flew up to 80's and 90's

I have a miner that has one board with 8 VRMs and the rest 4 VRMs.  Here is a screen shot of it running .93 and it has been stable hashing ~520Gh rated at pool for days



Please explain why what you posted as proof that I don't read shows 4 VRM's on each module clearly indicating they are off and with 0 A output?

Perhaps it is a comprehension issue and not a reading issue?

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October 12, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
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if anyone is interested in a detailed account of dealing with 4 VRM boards pre-.95 I posted it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.msg3325981#msg3325981

For anyone that has been running overclocked 4 VRM boards (since that was the only firmware we had to choose from) then you might want to really think before switching to .95

If you have a new miner without a lot of HW errors (cores turning off) you may be fine with .95 but just know you are stuck with a substandard miner compared to one with 8 VRMs

Based on reports from users with Bertmod, 4 of the 8 VRM's were NEVER supplying power.

It IS possible they had some benifit but it was not to supply power.

If they did by some wierd fluke add some benifit, that could be added back using less expensive components.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled tangent.

Smiley



this thread is full of people who write first and read maybe


if you have been paying attention, boards with 8 VRMs and pre-.95 regulated all the VRMs to the low .70's range while the 4 VRM boards flew up to 80's and 90's

I have a miner that has one board with 8 VRMs and the rest 4 VRMs.  Here is a screen shot of it running .93 and it has been stable hashing ~520Gh rated at pool for days



Please explain why what you posted as proof that I don't read shows 4 VRM's on each module clearly indicating they are off and with 0 A output?

Perhaps it is a comprehension issue and not a reading issue?


Not having a KnC miner yet but a reader/scanner of the thread.  It was said already that the 8 VRM boards don't use 4 of them, so the one Jupiter with 8 shows 4 off.



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