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October 12, 2013, 12:53:45 AM
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Welp! I just posted my Unboxing and First Look video. I also made a post, but I thought it would be good to post it here too! Review coming soon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkZfXzsHWTo

P.S. It cam with a fan knocked off, but other than that, it's fine. Hashing at a stable 530 Gh/s on firmware 0.95. Enjoy the video!






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October 12, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
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Switched my hosted Jupiter to eligius and I'm now getting close to 500 (around 480 450 420).

Thank you for .95!!! Can't wait for .96!!!

My slower machine running at 375, tried Eligius says 400...  I don't think it has anything to do with the pool.  Bet one of the 4 boards is bad.  I bet I would get around 375 if I unplugged one of the boards on the jupiter.. 


At the moment I can get 450-460 if I click the save button in the portal and have it soft reset.  That lasts for about 20 min, then it drops down to around 400.

I really wish there was a phone we could call to get a hold of whomever is working in the data center.  Staying up and calling customer service @ 4am only to talk to someone that can't do anything is fairly frustrating.

However, today was a good day.  From 140/150GH/s to 400GH/s is definately an improvement.

I agree, great day!  I feel KNC will fix and deliver now that we have had a great day.  =)
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October 12, 2013, 01:04:32 AM
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The firmware 0.95 is not good for Saturn (with 8 VRM per board).
The average speed reported by cgminer is greater than before, bu work utility (WU) is 3700+ instead of 3900+ and the pool reports lower hashing (220-240 instead of  260+).
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October 12, 2013, 01:15:12 AM
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0.95 is definitely good for me. Got my host details last night. Logged in and connected it to Eligius pool.

For my Jupiter, it was only running at 16GH/s and then jumps to 150GH/s and then maxing out at around 270GH/s.

I already knew of the performance issues they're having in the datacenter but sent them an email anyway to notify them of my miner issue.

Anyhow that was like 3am. Woke up this morning and checked Eligius. During the night, the graph explodes from around 250GH/s~ to about 480-610GH/s. Oh yes!

Then opened the knc website for any news, and yeah seems like 0.95 was released and applied to all hosted customers. Awesome.

Happy for now.


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October 12, 2013, 01:20:43 AM
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In simple terms a supply can be a current source or a voltage source.  The power supply might show characteristics of either/or given that those are not simple devices.  If its design says that at a given moment it needs to provide X amps of current to maintain or reach Y voltage, it will provide that current.  If for some reason it does not know the voltage has been approached or reached, it will continue to provide that current unabated until it voltage limits.  Until it knows that the required voltage has been reached it could source current that could drive the voltage above the specified max voltage of the circuit capacitors and BANG goes the capacitor exploding and outsourcing a gas that smells just like electronics burning. ...

With you right up to the point where your voltage-regulated PS starts putting out too much voltage.  That's not voltage regulation, that's crap regulation, AKA broken/badly designed PS.  Not that you can't come up with an inductive/weirdass load that can spike the output of a power supply -- you can, but that's not the PS causing the spike -- it's the load.  A voltage-regulated PS has a bunch of voltage deviations -- noise, drift, min/max -- a properly designed PS won't source outside of the values in its data sheet, or it's called "broken."
No black magic here.
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October 12, 2013, 01:45:30 AM
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The firmware 0.95 is not good for Saturn (with 8 VRM per board).
The average speed reported by cgminer is greater than before, bu work utility (WU) is 3700+ instead of 3900+ and the pool reports lower hashing (220-240 instead of  260+).

Same here on a Jupiter. Higher hash rate (20gh/s), lower WU (400). 20% lower payouts on .95 in all 5 blocks since upgrade. I'm going back to .93

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October 12, 2013, 01:49:43 AM
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the 0.95 are working fine on my jupiters
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October 12, 2013, 03:10:00 AM
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Thanks for the update. Please keep doing this daily!

Now about the sequence of orders, it seems that hosting orders are on halt, for example I have 280x and 281x and both are still on paid while higher numbers are already being processed. Both were paid within minutes after ordering. Hosting was ordered and paid later, but that shouldn't matter IMHO.


could it be you hosting guys are in the "paid" status only because the hosting is working so badly.. and up to their statisfaction.....at the point stuff works they will then start hosting..and any of this 100gh hashing you getting now just plain don't count because the hosting facility is not up to snuff

hmmm...are you guys still getting BTC or has that stopped?

anyway hopefully this is correct and you guys will get reimbursed and your status changed at that time

just trying to give you a bit of hope but would be my 'guess"

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October 12, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
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So is there a confirmed "safe" brand of PSU to go with, or just anything but Corsair?


what about seasonic which is the version I have are they related in anyway? (they are still in the box I can send them back to amazon at the rate stuff is gonna show up here if I need to)

and on a side note I gather if you do manage or need to send your psu back (again I have seasonic so prob safe) prob a person should jump it up from 860w seasonic or whatever to say a 1000 or more to be safe at this point in time (if you have to send you stuff back) would that be prudent?


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October 12, 2013, 03:14:18 AM
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No official announcement yet but firmware is already there Wink

https://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/file/kncminer-0.95.bin

Those who are brave!

must resist....must resist  Grin

HAHA, who will be the first!?!?!



There can ONLY  BE ONE who is first (dramatic clip inserted here)

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October 12, 2013, 03:15:55 AM
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I wonder how long a Mercury would take to generate a share on Slush's pool.  If the new assembly testing isn't long enough or lucky enough to generate a share it won't register as having been fired up.



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October 12, 2013, 03:18:58 AM
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If I have corsair HX850 PSUs for my miners should I immidietly change them or should I wait for official info?
   



in a post a bit back from this thread (look for it sorry can't seem to find it)

there was a method to wait for a bit then unplug psu from miner ..then run psu alone w/o miner then shut it down and re plug in after

don't quote me but a few pages back in this thread



myself i'd send it back if you could

hope my seasonic 860 is ok and not the same mnfg or some such

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October 12, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
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And here he's correct.  If the VRM is designed to withstand 100 C, cooling it from 80 to 40 makes no difference.  

Well it depends.  No device is fine at 99.99999C and then explodes at 100C.  The hotter a component gets the less efficient it becomes that means more current is needed and more current means more heat which means higher temps, which means lower efficiency .... and the cycle goes on. 

All the problems seem to be limited to the rushed "lets cut the number of VRMs in half" mid production modification version.  If the 4 VRM version (doing the job of 8 VRM as designed) is running at high load then even a modest amount of cooling could improve performance.  Not saying that IS the case just pointing out it could be.


can't find the quote either form knc or bitcoinrama

but was there not a quote a few pages back that .who is it Orsc  THE CHIP designer half of kNC  not sure of name spelling? .....there people have come in and are now running the PLANT etc

so maybe these issues will go away now? knock wood....bring in the big guns


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October 12, 2013, 03:33:04 AM
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Got my stuff in today.  One of my Jupiters was working for about an hour then shut itself down.  It refuses to power itself back on.  It will briefly attempt to turn on for about 3 seconds and then it shuts down again.  I thought maybe it was the PSU so I swapped it with another but that isn't the issue.

PSU's = OCZ ZX 1250

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October 12, 2013, 03:36:30 AM
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I'm running 0.93. Just tried to upgrade to 0.95, and it seems to work, but after restart the web interface still says that the current firmware revision is 0.93. I tried to upgrade (downgrade) to other versions but it's the same.

It is possible that the upgrade was successful and the web interface displays the wrong version number? Is there a way to check firmware version through ssh?

at least you can access the miner page/tab....I cant... i get "ERROR 500 Internal server error"
update page works, status page works, networking does not, and miner page error

the support page has something like called a reboot patch

not sure if it applies

hard reset I guess is your other option


looking good guys...I want you early order folks to have this all fixed and at 500w and 600gh by the time I get my Jupiter 304x....its all about me don't ya know...

then plug it in and martini time.......lab rats I salute you! 

(ducks hey don't throw stuff in chat)

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October 12, 2013, 03:38:52 AM
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My Jupiter is scheduled for delivery today. Of course I bought a Corsair HX850 - is there any *safe* way to use it, or should I not even plug the thing in?

What if I power on the HX850 and plug in the PCI-E connectors one at a time?


NO! Never plug one at a time whilst on. and please step away from that PSU if you are even contemplating that!!

So even with the much better FW .95 you still wouldn't chance it?  How about the 1250 series?

er no I would not if what bitcoinrama said is true that they have a guy from corsair tech guy to check it out ... looks serious enough they
have corsair up in the air

anyway my 2c worth just grab another diff brand imho

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October 12, 2013, 03:41:27 AM
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Is the OCZ ZX series okay then?

According to KNC only Corsair makes booby trapped power supplies.


Then again Corsair doesn't actually make power supplies Channel Well and SeaSonic do and between the two of them they make a good portion of the power supplies on the market from just about every brand.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/psu-manufacturer-oem,2729-5.html



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October 12, 2013, 03:45:08 AM
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Just repeating my post on the other thread.

0.93


0.95


231w vs 231w. Looks like I'm staying with 0.93 with its higher WU/m.
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How about a Corsair AX860? Been calling around, local store has this a few miles away. Otherwise I think I have a loooong drive after work. I live way out in the mountains Smiley

http://www.corsair.com/professional-series-gold-ax850-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-power-supply.html


that's what I have......so please answer our question here (still have time to send it back to newegg ...should prob do this anyway for something larger even if the model I have is OK in hindsight)

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What denial? What head in the sands?? They worked their asses off to improve the issue, and ignored the FUD. The extra fans just waste electricity. The temps quoted from Bertmod were from the VRMs not the ASIC. Please explain what trainwreck exactly? They, in a week have delivered more hashrate than BFL have to date, and more boxes than Avalon ever achieved. They have just released an update that massively improves hashrate. It was a firmware, not a cooling issue. One week. Fair enough if you don't want to deal with them again, their engineering partners on this project think they are incredible, really. That's not hype.

I went from ~410 to ~510 BY COOLING

yes, you are in denial

they should of tested and created .95 before saving money taking off the 4 VRMs

FACT




just asking so don't take my head off ..I know zip

but have you upgraded to .95 and if so does your cooling seem to improve on that as well (can't hurt imho)

anyway curious

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