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[n00n]

100ANC bounty for the best designed CSS for the qt wallet.

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Bounties

please provide a short guide how to do the tech part or you will scare most designers
where do we find the css file?
how do we test the css on the wallet?
will the css look the same on all OS or do we have to do different csss?
is it pure css or are there images/other files as well?


SmokingSkull
good point, who can provide this info?
or if you look at it from an other point of view - who do we want to attract by adding their language?
chinese, korean, japanese, russian, hindi, arabic, persian, spanish, portugese, french and german comes to my mind.
by adding these languages to the front page (once again a good reason to keep the front page stripped - less to translate) and using the right words (anonymous payment system, anonymous online transactions, anonymous digital cash?) for the search engines (and adding anoncoin.net to foreign search engines like baidu.com and  yandex.com) we should hopefully see them coming and adding to the wiki in their native tongue


good night

[entertheabyss]

100ANC bounty for the best designed CSS for the qt wallet.

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Bounties

please provide a short guide how to do the tech part or you will scare most designers
where do we find the css file?
how do we test the css on the wallet?
will the css look the same on all OS or do we have to do different csss?
is it pure css or are there images/other files as well?

Here is some info on QT CSS:   https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet.html


The bounty is to create a better looking wallet then the plain Grey one we have now. Something that looks like awesome like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8022980#msg8022980 but with the distinctive Anoncoin brand. It should work with all qt wallets on Windows, Mac and Linux.

[alincoln]

I've been watching this coin for a while, and with increased interest in recent months.

One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.

If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?

By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?

[entertheabyss]

I've been watching this coin for a while, and with increased interest in recent months.

One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.

If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?

By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?

"ZeroTrust" its got a ring to it. Maybe we can run with that.

[niteglider]

I've been watching this coin for a while, and with increased interest in recent months.

One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.

If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?

By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?

Yes it does have a ring, and Zerotrust will not be confusing at all regarding zerocash or zerocoin.... wut??  To the non-techy it could provide clarity and a sense that ANC is different or going a different direction while at the same time placing the trust issue right in the name.  Brilliant.

[niteglider]

And btw, bangomatic sounds like a teenager trying to protect what he thinks will be a cash cow for him.  Forget him, his worthless coin will fade soon enough.  People who don't investigate before throwing in their cash always get taken.

[entertheabyss]

Strongly vote against using the name zerotrust. It would sabotage the coin more than anything else.

The few people who understand the arcane reference to trustlessness would be outweighed by the huge number who would instinctively say "zerotrust, that sounds like a bad thing".

I disagree. It plays on same cords as "your business is none of our business".
You don't have to rely on any third party for your anonymity. Its the reason there is a demand for this technology in the first place.

[entertheabyss]

And btw, bangomatic sounds like a teenager trying to protect what he thinks will be a cash cow for him.  Forget him, his worthless coin will fade soon enough.  People who don't investigate before throwing in their cash always get taken.

The flip side though is that people have an obligation to keep coins honest.

If you see that someone has launched a coin that was questionnably mined, then paid to put the coin on an exchange, all when the coin is not even ready yet, it is nice to say something to warn people to be cautious. That does seem to be the case with librex or whatever it is called.

Anoncoin is a coin that from the start has had significant privacy features. Some people are excited about potentially adding zerocoin, others not. The work between fluffypony and meeh is much more important for the coin longterm. Regardless there is no comparison between anoncoin and a coin that has not even got basic anonymity features yet but promises to.

Strongly vote against using the name zerotrust. It would sabotage the coin more than anything else.

The few people who understand the arcane reference to trustlessness would be outweighed by the huge number who would instinctively say "zerotrust, that sounds like a bad thing".

I disagree. It plays on same cords as "your business is none of our business".
You don't have to rely on any third party for your anonymity. Its the reason there is a demand for this technology in the first place.

Right. I understand the reference to trustlessness, but the word/phrase itself is toxic.

Think zerointegrity
zerovalue
zeroethics
zerotrust

Very difference from "your business is none of our business" which is edgy but unambiguous.

Ask any stranger if they want to buy something called zerotrust. It doesn't even need a focus group. It loses among new people to almost any other name except maybe crookedcoin or letsdrinksomedraincleaner coin.

ZeroCoin, ZeroCash, ZeroTrust

It falls into the same mold. Its catchy. People come here for privacy, the demographic we are catering to wont have a problem with it. It clears up a lot of confusion and it might just be the slogan we need to carry us through the next wave of shitcoins.

[entertheabyss]

ZeroCoin, ZeroCash, ZeroTrust

It falls into the same mold. Its catchy. People come here for privacy, the demographic we are catering to wont have a problem with it. It clears up a lot of confusion and it might just be the slogan we need to carry us through the next wave of shitcoins.

The demographic every coin must cater to first is the average person. Catering to the <1% of the population that is obsessive about privacy, and knowledgeable about the tech side of privacy, won't work.

I respectfully disagree. Firstly its really doesn't sound as bad as you think, and at first we need to outshine our competition within the alt coin space. The people we need to impress right now are already active within the community. "ZeroTrust" will clear up the confusion regarding the advantage of our approach over the systems proposed within the original zerocoin and zerocash whitepapers. ZeroTrust is something people on this forum can get behind.

[drAGon925]

I like the "ZeroTrust" idea,
people who know something, but not much will ask themselves "how can one coin be in another"
I mean by Anoncoin with Zerocoin implant..

Word Zero is important to stay in this moment, but I would rather like some kind of AnonTrust or similar..


Ignore guy like teenager bangomatic, he left culture in first month of birth.
This kind of communication he learn on some pump'n dump exchange site chats, or at home.

[AnonCoinTwitter]

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam

I will try to attract new ANC users by Tweeting about both ANC news and anonymity/privacy issues in general

[geekz]

some thoughts before sleep:

maybe the wiki should be multi lang too?

there is no link to https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin on the wiki front page(?)

there is no info about tor in the intro of https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin, also its lacking links to i2p and zerocoin pages.

there is no info about tor under "Setting up your wallet for the first time" https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Setting_up_your_Anoncoin_wallet.

could be good to create https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_Cryptocurrencies (maybe a good place to put the anonymity table i mentioned earlier) and link every "anonymous", "anonymity", ... to it - thats what its all about, anonymity.

come on guys zzzzz

n00n  , I will work on that after getting our forum ready. Please let me know , if you are interested to edit the wiki. I will create a user for you.  But i don't think , we need to create a page in wiki for anonymity of other cryptocoins.
I will also provide you a little change in the design html file that you had provided.  We can definitely get it translated in multiple languages.  Very Nice work , my friend. 

[overthetop2011]

Why does no one concern about the TITAN of DPOS ?

that is really anonymous mechanism.

[drAGon925]

I see new ppl here,  that's what I was fighting for : )


For all of you, once again, here is a link of ANC Green Faucet,
made by Skaia,
who is also have this site

https://www.anoncoinbuy.com/

0.1 is not small amount of ANC,  again, there will be only 4.2M coins...

Spread the word to the world, we need more ppl, new wallets!

https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/

and for faster learn and info, recommend them

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

[sorrros]

How about "Decentralized Anonymity" or "ZeroMix" to make the benefit of ANC somewhat more specific/clear?

[meeh]

100ANC bounty for the best designed CSS for the qt wallet.

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Bounties

please provide a short guide how to do the tech part or you will scare most designers
where do we find the css file?
how do we test the css on the wallet?
will the css look the same on all OS or do we have to do different csss?
is it pure css or are there images/other files as well?

Check out the link on this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8240430#msg8240430

It's Qt's mods of CSS for their own system. Anoncoin can read custom css by using:
style=custom.css where custom.css lies inside the Anoncoin application folder where you find the wallet and the blockchain and the config file itself.

[lunokhod2]

I've been watching this coin for a while, and with increased interest in recent months.

One thing that I believe that contributes to its overall low popularity is that most people don't understand how Anoncoin's implementation of Zerocoin is different than Zerocash. Hell, Zerocoin is already hard enough to grasp as a concept, let alone a variation of it. This adds to an existing perception that ANC is just a copy/paste coin with no real unique attributes.

If the ANC team worked hard to modify the original Zerocoin proposal to make it absolute trustless through the use of UFOs, you should consider calling it something else and stop this confusion. How about saying ANC is the only coin with "Zerotrust" technology, and then explain somewhere for those who really want to know that "Zerotrust" is a new protocol based on the original Zerocoin paper?

By the way, how is the RSA UFO generation going?

The original zerocoin paper proposed using RSA UFOs for a trustless setup. So there is nothing new here. The only thing new is that Anoncoin will implement the paper of Miers et al., whereas Miers et al are working on other things.

[lunokhod2]

I've created a few "blank" articles on the wiki

Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies

How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin

How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor

I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!

[meeh]

I've created a few "blank" articles on the wiki

Anonymity of cryptocurrencies: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies

How to mine Anoncoin: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_mine_Anoncoin

How to set up Anoncoin to use Tor: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_setup_Anoncoin_to_use_Tor

I don't mine anoncoin, and I never could get it to work with Tor, so any help from the community would be appreciated!

Tor guide should lie somewhere in the source code under contrib or docs.

[bangomatic]

Question for you. Your coin is named "ANONCOIN" what anon do you provide? Just wondering.

And as a followup question when you launched "ANONCOIN" did you have working "anon" solution at launch?