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Author Topic: PhoenixMiner 4.8c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)  (Read 208873 times)
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September 06, 2019, 01:00:08 PM
Last edit: September 07, 2019, 05:26:05 AM by PhoenixMiner
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I’m running 7x 1070s on Win 10 (1903) without any memory problems. 4.5c is rock-solid for me.

  Well they have 8 GB VRAM - you won't see any problems for many years with so much VRAM. The problems start with 4 GB cards because Windows 10 allocates a lot of video memory for its own needs (or so Microsoft says), and there is not enough free video memory left for the DAG file, which is about 3.3 GB for the ETC right now.
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September 07, 2019, 04:52:21 PM
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  Windows 10 strikes again. It uses quite a bit of GPU VRAM for its own internal needs. Here is the list of possible solutions in order of increasing dificullty:
   * You have to add the following command-line options in order to minimize VRAM usage: -rvram -1 -eres 0
   * Usually Windows 10 grabs memory only from the GPU that is connected to a display, so connect your display (or the display plug) to the iGPU of the motherboard (if you are using Intel motherboard). On multi-GPU rigs, you can also put an old (unusable for mining) GPU and connect the display to it.
   * The heavy-duty solution is to switch to Linux but it has its own problems. This will buy you about 5-9 additional months of operation until the DAG grows too big to fit in 4 GB VRAM.

   Note for Linux users: the latest AMD Linux driver (19.30-855429) is not supported by PhoenixMiner 4.5c. For now, stick with 19.30-838629. We will release 4.6 shortly (in a week or two), and it will contain some goodies for Linux, including advanced hardware stats, and hardware control for AMD cards.
-rvram -1 -eres 0 ==> only last about a week not 5-9 additional months and is no longer working.
Please HELP!
   Yes, these options won't buy you much time. We never said that - if you read the original message, the best solution is to use Linux, which doesn't hog GPU memory like Windows 10 does. However, we recognize that this may be quite impractical, especially if the machine is not a dedicated mining rig. So, your best bet is to either use the integrated GPU (if you are using an Intel CPU) as primary GPU (i.e. connected to a display), or "sacrifice" one of the GPUs and use it as primary GPU, and run the miner on the rest, which shouldn't be affected by the problem.

Claymore miner comes to the rescue each time Phoenix miner having problems with 4GB cards.
The rest...still mining with Phoenix (8GB cards).
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September 08, 2019, 03:55:05 PM
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I used Claymore/Nanopool for almost 2 years. Recently switched to Phoenix/Ethermine and saw a 9% increase in mining speed. This was measured not by Mh/s, but by the timeframe of payouts. Phoenix is BY FAR the more stable and better performance miner.
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September 09, 2019, 07:00:15 AM
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The first beta of 4.6 is ready. It includes the new RX5700 kernels. Note that the optimized Navi kernels are only in the Windows version as there are no fixed drivers for Linux from AMD yet. Also, you need the latest 19.9.1 drivers from AMD if you are using RX5700. You can download PhoenixMiner 4.6b from here:

https://mega.nz/#F!jUsSAKZB!PN7822zTg_1WvelMQvq1MQ  (MEGA)

If you want to check the integrity of the downloaded file, please use the following hashes (you need the last file PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip only if you want to mine BCI with Nvdia cards under Windows):
Code:
     File: PhoenixMiner_4.6b_Windows.zip
    ===================================
   SHA-1: 255044b1806f231a5b7d410680d4a7e0d1ddfab8
 SHA-256: f4678b71c2dcaeef454016dbf212731c4a28b1742fc2481d6c9e8b7958e5f621
 SHA-512: 8bd12dd916a4e434595d5c6aff6c4f010d3fe4efa222e1f3ea2ed172fbb2c197792a2e23bdf56cf56278a5029e87800c5e6f5aa9f71fcd5879316122d0bd712a


    File: PhoenixMiner_4.6b_Linux.tar.gz
    ====================================
   SHA-1: 595be6470e1b54bfa9fa12cd246c8651b621ff23
 SHA-256: 5b69b6358f8dfef9ac3d1e8e599c8a99c186e42fbe3d180255efae7d6b6214f8
 SHA-512: 65b2f3f2b0bdd27a2c67b0b3c7db7bddb89a70af6e7b93af4dcd2738d20ac7d5eb40ce5a31dfa592c75be97899a855e4d517003b775bd392813d9265716c5834


    File: PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip
    ====================================
   SHA-1: ff6fa5e018adbd52caf631c42b7c2fac7ce48a51
 SHA-256: 8087757169405d51ea8ba818347fb05d0450aef985c29272165070346eb5a54a
 SHA-512: 7b2d832f7f40578bb1f501d5174467f5ae06612e601dab769fd56d39da48a471b18c6373435a485155f70fec4017d8378797bf1e1dfe5d62fee30fa6a1d992c4

Here are the new features for this release:

  • Added optimized kernels for AMD RX5700 (Navi) GPUs under Windows (you need AMD driver 19.9.1 to use these kernels)
  • Implemented hardware control (setting clocks, voltages, power limit, fan control) for AMD cards under Linux. Requires PhoenixMiner running with root permissions. The clocks and voltage control require relatively new drivers (tested on 19.30-855429) and adding the following boot parameter to Linux kernel: amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff
  • Added advanced hardware stats (-hstats 2) for Nvidia cards under Linux
  • Added advanced hardware stats (-hstats 2) for AMD cards under Linux (requires relatively new drivers)
  • Implemented proper fan control for latest Nvidia cards from 20x0 and 16x0 series (Windows)
  • Added support for all new AMD Windows drivers up to the latest 19.9.1
  • Added support for all new AMD Linux drivers up to the latest 19.30-855429
  • Other small improvements and fixes.
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September 09, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
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Great job, check out this version on RX 5700
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September 09, 2019, 12:43:42 PM
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Quick test on ref 5700 non XT cclock:1300 mclock:920
53mh on phoenix 51.1mh on Claymore 15:0

930 and 950 mclock drops hash speed to under 50mh ,i think it changes mem straps and timings..
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September 10, 2019, 04:40:27 AM
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i am using 4.5c i got it from first post and i have 24.mh on 1060 6gb, 37 mh on 1080ti.
i asked people and they told me i need some kinda "tablet"
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September 10, 2019, 11:32:12 AM
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I have 2 RX5700, Windows 10, AMD 19.9.1 drivers and Phoenix 4.6b... I don't know how people are getting them to run at 100W, I can't get it to run reliably even at 130W. When I try to undervolt to anything bellow 1V, after few hours hashrate drops to 0.00 and needs system reboot.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
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September 10, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
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I have 2 RX5700, Windows 10, AMD 19.9.1 drivers and Phoenix 4.6b... I don't know how people are getting them to run at 100W, I can't get it to run reliably even at 130W. When I try to undervolt to anything bellow 1V, after few hours hashrate drops to 0.00 and needs system reboot.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
no problem so far with 800mv (20+ hours) but i have just 1 card.miner shows 112W consumption, from wall system+1 card 170W(gold) psu
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September 10, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
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I have 2 RX5700, Windows 10, AMD 19.9.1 drivers and Phoenix 4.6b... I don't know how people are getting them to run at 100W, I can't get it to run reliably even at 130W. When I try to undervolt to anything bellow 1V, after few hours hashrate drops to 0.00 and needs system reboot.
Anyone else experiencing the same?

   We are running our RX5700s with the following settings: -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 -hstats 2 and there are no stability problems. They even run at -cvddc 750 but we want to exclude any hardware crashes when testing, so we keep the voltage slightly higher than necessary. With these settings the GPUs report power about 105W per card. Please note that is crucial to keep the temperatures low, do not use -tt above 65 as this is the edge temperature, and the junction temperatures will be higher. With good airflow, even the first generation RX5700 with the single turbine do not go above 50% fan with the above settings.
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September 10, 2019, 01:56:40 PM
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I have 2 RX5700, Windows 10, AMD 19.9.1 drivers and Phoenix 4.6b... I don't know how people are getting them to run at 100W, I can't get it to run reliably even at 130W. When I try to undervolt to anything bellow 1V, after few hours hashrate drops to 0.00 and needs system reboot.
Anyone else experiencing the same?

   We are running our RX5700s with the following settings: -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 -hstats 2 and there are no stability problems. They even run at -cvddc 750 but we want to exclude any hardware crashes when testing, so we keep the voltage slightly higher than necessary. With these settings the GPUs report power about 105W per card. Please note that is crucial to keep the temperatures low, do not use -tt above 65 as this is the edge temperature, and the junction temperatures will be higher. With good airflow, even the first generation RX5700 with the single turbine do not go above 50% fan with the above settings.


Thanks PhoenixMiner for great miner, support and quick response. I copied and pasted your settings, hopefully it runs stable. I didn't have temperature target set before which may be the cause.
Keep up the good work :-)
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September 10, 2019, 06:16:10 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2019, 08:38:35 AM by bategojko74
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I have 2 RX5700, Windows 10, AMD 19.9.1 drivers and Phoenix 4.6b... I don't know how people are getting them to run at 100W, I can't get it to run reliably even at 130W. When I try to undervolt to anything bellow 1V, after few hours hashrate drops to 0.00 and needs system reboot.
Anyone else experiencing the same?

   We are running our RX5700s with the following settings: -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 -hstats 2 and there are no stability problems. They even run at -cvddc 750 but we want to exclude any hardware crashes when testing, so we keep the voltage slightly higher than necessary. With these settings the GPUs report power about 105W per card. Please note that is crucial to keep the temperatures low, do not use -tt above 65 as this is the edge temperature, and the junction temperatures will be higher. With good airflow, even the first generation RX5700 with the single turbine do not go above 50% fan with the above settings.


Thanks PhoenixMiner for great miner, support and quick response. I copied and pasted your settings, hopefully it runs stable. I didn't have temperature target set before which may be the cause.
Keep up the good work :-)
For a higher hashrate you can try: -ethi 8 -tt 54 -fanmin 54 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 750 -mclock 930 -hstats 2. It will raise your fan speed to 55-60%. The power consumption is about 4 Watts lower and the hashrate is higher about 3%. I will test higher tts like -tt 55. -tt 54 seems too safe.
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September 11, 2019, 02:38:53 AM
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I can't seem to get 4.6b to run. I have a mixed rig with Polaris and Navi and the miner just closes and/or crashes immediately. I just get the intro/version line then it exits.

Code:
Phoenixminer.exe -mode 1 -gsi 30 -amd -pool naw-eth.hiveon.net:4444 -wal WALLET -pass x

Phoenix Miner 4.6b Windows/msvc - Release build
-----------------------------------------------

Then returns to command line after that.
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September 11, 2019, 03:57:21 AM
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Anyone please tell me, what is best driver for rx470/570 vga.
Thank you
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September 11, 2019, 05:24:23 AM
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I can't seem to get 4.6b to run. I have a mixed rig with Polaris and Navi and the miner just closes and/or crashes immediately. I just get the intro/version line then it exits.

Code:
Phoenixminer.exe -mode 1 -gsi 30 -amd -pool naw-eth.hiveon.net:4444 -wal WALLET -pass x

Phoenix Miner 4.6b Windows/msvc - Release build
-----------------------------------------------

Then returns to command line after that.

   We tested on a similar rig (RX570 + RX5700, Windows 10 1709, AMD driver 19.9.1) and we didn't encounter any problems. Does PhoenixMiner 4.5c work on the same rig? What is the version of the drivers? Also, please try to run PhoenixMiner 4.6b only with -list (i.e. Phoenixminer.exe -list) and see if it shows the list of GPUs properly. A possible but unlikely reason - Windows defender may be blocking or even deleting PhoenixMiner.exe.

   

Anyone please tell me, what is best driver for rx470/570 vga.
Thank you
   There is no difference in hashrate (at least not noticeable), so it is better to use newer drivers (i.e. anything from the last several months). However, do not use drivers that are newer that PhoenixMiner version you are using. For PhoenixMiner 4.5c the latest supported drivers are 19.7.5 for Windows, and 19.30-838629 for Linux. For PhoenixMiner 4.6b the latest supported drivers are 19.9.1 for Windows, and 19.30-855429 for Linux).
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September 11, 2019, 07:24:10 AM
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Пpи тaкиx нacтpoйкax -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 -hstats 2 идyт пocтoянныe нeкoppeктныe шapы, видeoкapтa ASRock 5700XT .. ETh speed: 50.633 MH/s, shares 74/0/350, time: 10:37
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Пpи тaкиx нacтpoйкax -tt 62 -cclock 1300 -cvddc 800 -mclock 900 -hstats 2 идyт пocтoянныe нeкoppeктныe шapы, видeoкapтa ASRock 5700XT .. ETh speed: 50.633 MH/s, shares 74/0/350, time: 10:37
Maybe your DAG is not generated properly. In your config.txt file comment all your overclock settings. Start PM without command line parameters (it will use config.txt). After the DAG generation passes uncomment your overclock settings in config.txt, save it and press 'c' in PM and your config.txt file will be reloaded with your desired overclock settings.
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September 11, 2019, 11:47:34 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2019, 09:00:49 PM by Bathmat
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  We tested on a similar rig (RX570 + RX5700, Windows 10 1709, AMD driver 19.9.1) and we didn't encounter any problems. Does PhoenixMiner 4.5c work on the same rig? What is the version of the drivers? Also, please try to run PhoenixMiner 4.6b only with -list (i.e. Phoenixminer.exe -list) and see if it shows the list of GPUs properly. A possible but unlikely reason - Windows defender may be blocking or even deleting PhoenixMiner.exe.

Win 10 1903, Driver 19.9.1. -list also the miner just closes with 4.6b and 4.5c:

Code:
PhoenixMiner.exe -list
Phoenix Miner 4.6b Windows/msvc - Release build
-----------------------------------------------

No CUDA driver found
Code:
PhoenixMiner.exe -list
Phoenix Miner 4.5c Windows/msvc - Release build
-----------------------------------------------

No CUDA driver found

Edit: I have a Windows Defender exception for the folder that the miner is in. It hasn't deleted anything from that folder in years.

Edit2: 4.5c was working fine in this rig with just the Polaris and 19.5.2

Edit3: Turns out Windows Defender was blocking the miner... Haven't seen it block something like that before....
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September 12, 2019, 07:54:16 AM
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PhoenixMiner 4.6c is released as stable version (see the first post for details). You can download PhoenixMiner 4.6c from here:

https://mega.nz/#F!2VskDJrI!lsQsz1CdDe8x5cH3L8QaBw (MEGA)

If you want to check the integrity of the downloaded file, please use the following hashes (you need the last file PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip only if you want to mine BCI with Nvdia cards under Windows):
Code:
   File: PhoenixMiner_4.6c_Windows.zip
    ===================================
   SHA-1: 0065eb326dc0ca84e0f66291af317acbbc765be0
 SHA-256: aca4046d0f24da08fc65db59ef7597276ee1b7f9df448a9e6acd22a9c1d35776
 SHA-512: 580635915a63325469e55f6d21c80e64bf5e79df8abfe3e25e96cadb2e049e22de92f2681d88e4ca8faf9afa08905c0cb06d4cf124c81a53d4fe6236053aa3c0

    File: PhoenixMiner_4.6c_Linux.tar.gz
    ====================================
   SHA-1: 02ca7db2865d4b31a78ae30c1377a624de23577a
 SHA-256: 1517b7ad8f5b0d859858d95bd481aca48ae95062eceecd31def694e6ae2fc15e
 SHA-512: 4ad50fd5bc614aae82edd22382f6bd9b8df38b131fde0f70ee3aebb0f3d041f1d70cada1ebab089eaafbbea7fb11c32924886c9d358e354f51556b63faf130b8

    File: PhoenixMiner_NVRTC_Windows.zip
    ====================================
   SHA-1: ff6fa5e018adbd52caf631c42b7c2fac7ce48a51
 SHA-256: 8087757169405d51ea8ba818347fb05d0450aef985c29272165070346eb5a54a
 SHA-512: 7b2d832f7f40578bb1f501d5174467f5ae06612e601dab769fd56d39da48a471b18c6373435a485155f70fec4017d8378797bf1e1dfe5d62fee30fa6a1d992c4

The only new feature since the 4.6b beta version is the ability to show the current hotspot (junction) and memory temperatures on AMD cards when -hstats 2 option is used. This will allow for better monitoring of these important temperatures, which can be quite higher than the GPU temperature.

Changes in version 4.6c (since 4.5c):

  • Added optimized kernels for AMD RX5700 (Navi) GPUs under Windows (you need AMD driver 19.9.1 to use these kernels)
  • Implemented hardware control (setting clocks, voltages, power limit, fan control) for AMD cards under Linux. Requires PhoenixMiner running with root permissions. The clocks and voltage control require relatively new drivers (tested on 19.30-855429) and adding the following boot parameter to Linux kernel: amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff
  • Added advanced hardware stats (-hstats 2) for Nvidia cards under Linux
  • Added advanced hardware stats (-hstats 2) for AMD cards under Linux (requires relatively new drivers)
  • Now showing the current hotspot (junction) and memory temperatures on AMD cards when -hstats 2 option is used. Working on both Windows and Linux. Note that only most recent cards support this feature (e.g. Radeon VII, RX5700)
  • Implemented proper fan control for latest Nvidia cards from 20x0 and 16x0 series (Windows)
  • Added support for all new AMD Windows drivers up to the latest 19.9.1
  • Added support for all new AMD Linux drivers up to the latest 19.30-855429
  • Other small improvements and fixes.
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September 12, 2019, 07:58:18 AM
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  We tested on a similar rig (RX570 + RX5700, Windows 10 1709, AMD driver 19.9.1) and we didn't encounter any problems. Does PhoenixMiner 4.5c work on the same rig? What is the version of the drivers? Also, please try to run PhoenixMiner 4.6b only with -list (i.e. Phoenixminer.exe -list) and see if it shows the list of GPUs properly. A possible but unlikely reason - Windows defender may be blocking or even deleting PhoenixMiner.exe.

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Edit3: Turns out Windows Defender was blocking the miner... Haven't seen it block something like that before....
  Thank you for finding the cause of the problem on your rig. We were scratching our heads because even with latest Windows updates we couldn't reproduce the problem. Frankly, the behviour of Windows Defender is becoming really idiotic. We are already disabled it permanently on all our test rigs (and even on developer PCs) from the start but we will stop short from recommending this for everyone. Just keep in mind that whenever you see strange behavior or unexplained errors, just try with disabled Windows Defender to be sure that it is not causing problems.
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