Bitcoin Forum
October 21, 2018, 07:22:27 AM *
News: Make sure you are not using versions of Bitcoin Core other than 0.17.0 [Torrent], 0.16.3, 0.15.2, or 0.14.3. More info.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 ... 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 [92] 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 ... 375 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff]  (Read 834525 times)
hahahafr
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 642
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 03, 2012, 01:37:32 AM
 #1821

I got a suggestion from PsychoticBoy to change the N in PPLNS from 2x difficulty to 4x difficulty. That would be to double the size of the shifts. Please speak up if you have an opinion on it.

As a 24/7 miner, I approve of this suggestion.
Same here.

        ▄▄█████████▄▄
     ▄███████ ░████████▄
   ▄█████ ░██  ██  ██████▄
 ░███████  ██  ██ ░████████
░████  ██  ██  █▌ ▐█████████
▐████  ██  ██  █▌ ▐█████████▌
█████░ ▐█  ██  █  ████  █████
█████▌ ▐█████████████  ██████
█████▌ ▐████████████▌ ▐██████
██████  ████████████ ░███████
▐█████  ███████████░ ▐██████▌
 ██████  ████████▀░ ▄███████
  ▀█████░  ▀███▀  ▄███████▀
    ▀█████▄░   ░▄███████▀
       ▀▀███████████▀▀

▄███▄                                                                  ▄███▄
█████░                                                                 █████
█████░                                                                 █████
█████░                                                                 █████
███████████▄▄       ▄███████▄    ▄███▄     ░▄███▄     ░▄██▄░   ▄▄███████████    ▄███████▄░      ▄▄██████▄▄
██████████████▌  ░▄███████████▄░ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒ ▐██████████████ ░▄███████████▄░  ▄████████████▄
███████████████▌░█████▀  ▀██████ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒▐█████▀  ▀██████░▐█████▀  ▀█████░▐█████▀  ▀█████▌░
█████▀░   ▀█████▒████      █████ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒█████░   ░░█████░█████░     ████▒█████      █████
█████░    ░█████▒████      █████ █████░   ░▐█████▌    ▓████▒█████░    ░█████░█████      ████▒█████      █████
█████░    ░█████░█████▄  ▄██████ ██████▄░▄████████▄░▄██████░▐█████▄░░▄█████▌░▐█████▄  ▄█████░▐█████▄  ▄█████▌
█████░    ░█████ ░█████████████░ ░████████████████████████░  ▐████████████▒  ░▀████████████░  ▀████████████▀
▀███▀░    ░▀███▀   ▀▀███████▀▀     ▀▀████████▀ ▀███████▀▀     ░▀████████▀       ▀███████▀▀     ░▀████████▀
  First Decentralized Social Ecosystem
  A SOCIAL NETWORK BUILT FOR THE BLOCKCHAINWORLD






───    APPLY FOR WHITELIST    ───
WEBSITE    WHITEPAPER   TELEGRAM
FACEBOOK  TWITTER         ANN
1540106547
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1540106547

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1540106547
Reply with quote  #2

1540106547
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1540106547
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1540106547

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1540106547
Reply with quote  #2

1540106547
Report to moderator
1540106547
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1540106547

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1540106547
Reply with quote  #2

1540106547
Report to moderator
1540106547
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1540106547

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1540106547
Reply with quote  #2

1540106547
Report to moderator
testconpastas2
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 199
Merit: 100



View Profile
October 03, 2012, 06:39:00 AM
 #1822


Did you get reject after reject in all 4 separate cgminer instances?


Yep this is what I meant.

since then everything was ok. as usual.... I'll try to watch blocks' changes.

Thank you

Bitmessage: BM-2DAetLWJBKWHZoPbNCgg5z8jwaPpDYWwd4
gpg key id:C6EF5CE3
abeaulieu
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 295
Merit: 250



View Profile
October 04, 2012, 12:33:52 PM
 #1823

I got a suggestion from PsychoticBoy to change the N in PPLNS from 2x difficulty to 4x difficulty. That would be to double the size of the shifts. Please speak up if you have an opinion on it.

As a 24/7 miner, I approve of this suggestion.
Same here.

I guess I don't really understand that advantage of increasing the N in PPLNS. Miners just want more stability in payment?

I'm still quite impartial. Eventually as the hash rate creeeps up it's going to be necessary. If/When ASICs start being released, we'll probably see a spike on Bitminter with a steady (probably large) increase in hashrate thereafter. At that point N will probably be needed to increase several fold.
Klober
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
October 04, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
 #1824

If this is talking about increasing how long shifts last from the current approximately 30m to 60m than I am definitely in favor. This will help even out my time when either A) I have to restart a miner or take it down temporarily for maintenance, and B) when I lose connection to BitMinter and my miner switches over to a backup pool for the next hour or two. This will also help with pool hoppers as they would need to remain in the pool that much longer to pull any significant amount of coins from the regulars.

Count my vote as an "AYE".
DrHaribo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1019


Bitminter.com Operator


View Profile WWW
October 04, 2012, 08:29:37 PM
 #1825

Yes, increasing PPLNS's N up to 4x Difficulty will definitely reduce variance when you have some downtime. Just like it reduces the variance in the income of a non-24/7 miner, it will also reduce the variance in loss due to downtime for a 24/7 miner. Less chance of a big loss because your miners went down just before we found 3 quick blocks. It would still be a loss, but a smaller one.

It's not possible to pool hop on BitMinter though, and this won't make any difference in that regard. Of course you can move in and out of the pool as you wish, but since you can't predict beforehand whether you get high or low pay you can't "pool hop".

Making pool hopping impossible is really that simple. Just use a fair reward system. It's a shame some pools refuse to do so. And it is outright strange that so many miners still use those pools.

▶▶▶ Bitminter.com - Your trusted mining pool since 2011.
willphase
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 769
Merit: 500


View Profile
October 04, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
 #1826

I'd certainly support increasing N - there appears to be no downside for people who mine on the pool 24/7 like myself.

Will

miter_myles
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 04, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
 #1827

I'd certainly support increasing N - there appears to be no downside for people who mine on the pool 24/7 like myself.

Will

concur +1

BTC - 1D7g5395bs7idApTx1KTXrfDW7JUgzx6Z5
LTC - LVFukQnCWUimBxZuXKqTVKy1L2Jb8kZasL
abeaulieu
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 295
Merit: 250



View Profile
October 05, 2012, 01:32:49 AM
 #1828

Yes, increasing PPLNS's N up to 4x Difficulty will definitely reduce variance when you have some downtime. Just like it reduces the variance in the income of a non-24/7 miner, it will also reduce the variance in loss due to downtime for a 24/7 miner. Less chance of a big loss because your miners went down just before we found 3 quick blocks. It would still be a loss, but a smaller one.
...

miter_myles
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 05, 2012, 03:35:59 AM
 #1829


BTC - 1D7g5395bs7idApTx1KTXrfDW7JUgzx6Z5
LTC - LVFukQnCWUimBxZuXKqTVKy1L2Jb8kZasL
WhitePhantom
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 354
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 05, 2012, 03:43:13 AM
 #1830

I'm happy either way.

hahahafr
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 642
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 05, 2012, 08:43:21 AM
 #1831

Yes, increasing PPLNS's N up to 4x Difficulty will definitely reduce variance when you have some downtime. Just like it reduces the variance in the income of a non-24/7 miner, it will also reduce the variance in loss due to downtime for a 24/7 miner. Less chance of a big loss because your miners went down just before we found 3 quick blocks. It would still be a loss, but a smaller one.

It's not possible to pool hop on BitMinter though, and this won't make any difference in that regard. Of course you can move in and out of the pool as you wish, but since you can't predict beforehand whether you get high or low pay you can't "pool hop".

Making pool hopping impossible is really that simple. Just use a fair reward system. It's a shame some pools refuse to do so. And it is outright strange that so many miners still use those pools.

People are dumb, they don't care, mainly. Even the Bitcoin Folks.

        ▄▄█████████▄▄
     ▄███████ ░████████▄
   ▄█████ ░██  ██  ██████▄
 ░███████  ██  ██ ░████████
░████  ██  ██  █▌ ▐█████████
▐████  ██  ██  █▌ ▐█████████▌
█████░ ▐█  ██  █  ████  █████
█████▌ ▐█████████████  ██████
█████▌ ▐████████████▌ ▐██████
██████  ████████████ ░███████
▐█████  ███████████░ ▐██████▌
 ██████  ████████▀░ ▄███████
  ▀█████░  ▀███▀  ▄███████▀
    ▀█████▄░   ░▄███████▀
       ▀▀███████████▀▀

▄███▄                                                                  ▄███▄
█████░                                                                 █████
█████░                                                                 █████
█████░                                                                 █████
███████████▄▄       ▄███████▄    ▄███▄     ░▄███▄     ░▄██▄░   ▄▄███████████    ▄███████▄░      ▄▄██████▄▄
██████████████▌  ░▄███████████▄░ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒ ▐██████████████ ░▄███████████▄░  ▄████████████▄
███████████████▌░█████▀  ▀██████ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒▐█████▀  ▀██████░▐█████▀  ▀█████░▐█████▀  ▀█████▌░
█████▀░   ▀█████▒████      █████ █████     ▒█████     ▒████▒█████░   ░░█████░█████░     ████▒█████      █████
█████░    ░█████▒████      █████ █████░   ░▐█████▌    ▓████▒█████░    ░█████░█████      ████▒█████      █████
█████░    ░█████░█████▄  ▄██████ ██████▄░▄████████▄░▄██████░▐█████▄░░▄█████▌░▐█████▄  ▄█████░▐█████▄  ▄█████▌
█████░    ░█████ ░█████████████░ ░████████████████████████░  ▐████████████▒  ░▀████████████░  ▀████████████▀
▀███▀░    ░▀███▀   ▀▀███████▀▀     ▀▀████████▀ ▀███████▀▀     ░▀████████▀       ▀███████▀▀     ░▀████████▀
  First Decentralized Social Ecosystem
  A SOCIAL NETWORK BUILT FOR THE BLOCKCHAINWORLD






───    APPLY FOR WHITELIST    ───
WEBSITE    WHITEPAPER   TELEGRAM
FACEBOOK  TWITTER         ANN
DrHaribo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1019


Bitminter.com Operator


View Profile WWW
October 05, 2012, 07:54:39 PM
 #1832

Every once in a while a block change is causing very high load and slow response after the long poll signal. Apparently there are still some miners getting confused and DoSing the server. Most block changes seem to go alright though. I'll have some improvements to mitigate the trouble from those miners soon.

Remember if you use an old cgminer or bfgminer (at least if older than v2.7), grab the latest version!

If you are using DiabloMiner of Phoenix, please make sure you have the name and password correct. These miners think it is a good idea to retry the same password many times per second when the server says it is incorrect.

▶▶▶ Bitminter.com - Your trusted mining pool since 2011.
Digigami
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 05, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
 #1833

Maybe a fix for the wrong password retry issue could be to ignore an IP which tries an incorrect user/pass for 1 minute or something? Are you able to tell and maybe contact the miners with the troubled workers? I know I've updated all my cgminers to 2.7.5/6 now so hopefully my rigs aren't causing any issues.
philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 1357


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
October 06, 2012, 10:08:33 AM
 #1834

I am having trouble with my biggest worker. It had 3x 7970 gpus and room for one more I added the fourth hd7970 gpu I underclock to save some power. so these 4 get me 2100 hash. sometimes one drops. So to get back to the four I have to kill the other 3 and sign back up.

  I get a rejection notice.  sometimes 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 times. then the gui will pop up and let me restart the 4 gpus. since this work is my biggest about 2000 out of the 3500 hash that I run it is really annoying.  It is also my best work in terms of power use. about 550 -575 watts for the 2000 hash rate. I use bitminter 1.3.0

I use java 7.7?  can't remember but it is the newest one.

  I use windows 7 64 bit.

 I use explorer 9.

 I only use bitminter to mine.

 what can I do to stop the reject notice?

. should I rename the worker?

should i give it a new password?  I tired this and it did not help.


I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
DrHaribo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1019


Bitminter.com Operator


View Profile WWW
October 06, 2012, 10:19:42 AM
 #1835

what can I do to stop the reject notice?

. should I rename the worker?

should i give it a new password?  I tired this and it did not help.

By reject notice, do you mean the password dialog popping up and saying the name or password is wrong?

▶▶▶ Bitminter.com - Your trusted mining pool since 2011.
kano
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2604
Merit: 1056


Linux since 1997 RedHat 4


View Profile
October 06, 2012, 11:06:29 AM
 #1836

I am having trouble with my biggest worker. It had 3x 7970 gpus and room for one more I added the fourth hd7970 gpu I underclock to save some power. so these 4 get me 2100 hash. sometimes one drops. So to get back to the four I have to kill the other 3 and sign back up.
...
Anyone feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but you should get well over 600MH/s for each card.
525MH/s seems awfully slow ... or an incredibly low underclock.
I know if you excessively overclock you can get up to 720MH/s with a 7970

Pool: https://kano.is Here on Bitcointalk: Forum BTC: 1KanoPb8cKYqNrswjaA8cRDk4FAS9eDMLU
FreeNode IRC: irc.freenode.net channel #kano.is Majority developer of the ckpool code
Help keep Bitcoin secure by mining on pools with full block verification on all blocks - and NO empty blocks!
philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 1357


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
October 06, 2012, 11:14:10 AM
 #1837

I am having trouble with my biggest worker. It had 3x 7970 gpus and room for one more I added the fourth hd7970 gpu I underclock to save some power. so these 4 get me 2100 hash. sometimes one drops. So to get back to the four I have to kill the other 3 and sign back up.
...
Anyone feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but you should get well over 600MH/s for each card.
525MH/s seems awfully slow ... or an incredibly low underclock.
I know if you excessively overclock you can get up to 720MH/s with a 7970

 my speed of 525 per gpu is intentional not accidental. I can get the highest watt to hash rating at 525 to 540 hash.
 this set of gpus gets about 640 hash each oc'd so 4x 640 is 2560 hash if I do that I pull close to 900watts.

 if i run
 at 530 hash or 2100 i pull 600 watts so I underclock on purpose as 300 hash for 300 watts is loud hot and not cost effective at my power rate.

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2254
Merit: 1357


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
October 06, 2012, 11:27:31 AM
 #1838

what can I do to stop the reject notice?

. should I rename the worker?

should i give it a new password?  I tired this and it did not help.

By reject notice, do you mean the password dialog popping up and saying the name or password is wrong?

   no not at all.

  here is what happens lets say  you power the pc up log onto bitminter

my worker name is  intel2500k at least this is the big worker and the one that has this problem. 

I press engine start the bit coin flashes

 the verifying application pops up then instead of the do you want to run this program bla bla bla a little white page of a core dump pops up the first line says :

A fatal error has been deteced by the java runtime environment.

 a few hundred lines code info follow . 

I may be starting this the wrong way.  somewhere you mention how to start java from a command line not the broswer due to some java security issues.

  How can I do that?

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
DrHaribo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1019


Bitminter.com Operator


View Profile WWW
October 06, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
 #1839

I press engine start the bit coin flashes

 the verifying application pops up then instead of the do you want to run this program bla bla bla a little white page of a core dump pops up the first line says :

A fatal error has been deteced by the java runtime environment.

 a few hundred lines code info follow .  

That's odd. I've never seen a "verifying application" window pop up after the program is already running. Perhaps you can email me a screenshot and/or paste all that text? operator@bitminter.com

It may be worth a shot clearing the java temporary files so that the program's files gets downloaded anew next time you start it. On Windows you get to the place to do this by clicking java in the windows control panel. On any OS you can also run "javaws -viewer" from the commandline.

I may be starting this the wrong way.  somewhere you mention how to start java from a command line not the broswer due to some java security issues.

  How can I do that?

There's been several Java security holes mentioned in the news lately. They could allow someone to hack your computer if you visit the wrong website with the Java plugin enabled in your browser. To protect yourself from this you can disable the Java plugin in the browser.

BitMinter client can still be started from the commandline:
Code:
javaws http://bitminter.com/client/bitminter.jnlp

If on windows you can type this command at the input field of the start menu, or open a command prompt and type it there. On Linux or Mac open a terminal window. After you have used the program once there should be startmenu shortcut you can use to start it.

▶▶▶ Bitminter.com - Your trusted mining pool since 2011.
DrHaribo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2478
Merit: 1019


Bitminter.com Operator


View Profile WWW
October 06, 2012, 01:22:31 PM
 #1840

Please read! Two changes in the mining reward system.

The cost of the prepay perk will increase to 2% (was 1%). Unfortunately 1% is much too cheap. The last month the paying of orphans has eaten up most of the donations, even from those who donate 2% or 3%. It's not fair to the biggest supporters of the pool that their donations go to subsidize miners who donate less. It's also not sustainable for the pool going forward, not having enough income to pay for the (currently single) server.

The change is immediate in that the prepay perk now costs 2%, but if you already have it on it will still be on for a while even if you donate below 2%. To give the users who are actually affected time to decide what they want to do, there will be two weeks before the new cost takes effect fully. If by 20.10.2012 your perk costs are still higher than your actual donation settings, then your prepay perk will be turned off and your donation will be automatically reduced by 1% to compensate for the perk you are no longer getting.

This announcement will be linked to from bitminter.com, twitter, facebook, google+, bitcointalk threads. Users who have prepay costs above their current donation level will also be emailed if they have an email address registered on bitminter.com.

By popular demand we are also changing the N in PPLNS again, from 2x difficulty to 4x difficulty. The size of a shift will be doubled to achieve this. The goal is to reduce the variance in pay for a proof of work. If you are mining 24/7 you won't notice it. But if you mine part-time or your mining rigs occasionally stop working then you will have less variance.

Summary (TL;DR):
  • Right now, you must donate 2% (was 1%) to activate the prepay perk if it isn't already active.
  • 13.10.2012 we switch PPLNS' N from 2x difficulty to 4x difficulty, to reduce variance for part-time mining
  • 20.10.2012 those who have prepay on and donate below the cost of their perks will have prepay automatically switched off and donations reduced by 1%

If your perk costs are now higher than your donations, please make a choice to turn off prepay or raise your donations before 20.10.2012. I would like to force the automatic switch on as few accounts as possible.  And if you haven't already, please register an email at bitminter.com

▶▶▶ Bitminter.com - Your trusted mining pool since 2011.
Pages: « 1 ... 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 [92] 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 ... 375 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!