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Author Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff]  (Read 775882 times)
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December 04, 2012, 06:14:52 AM
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Have you considered something like CloudFlare to help protect the front end? It won't do anything for the mining ports, but it might help defend the website.

In this instance it was a pool server bug undetected in testing that made the getwork miners go nuts. But yeah, I have considered CloudFlare. I may go for that in the future with more servers.

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December 04, 2012, 07:55:19 AM
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any plans on making fastest user list longer?

when I joined, the pool was 200ghash and I was ~2,5ghash and made it to top 25 that time, now pool is 10x faster and I'm only 2x faster and cant even fit to top 50 Tongue

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December 04, 2012, 10:27:48 AM
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any plans on making fastest user list longer?

There are no plans for that. And I think top 50 is as much as makes sense to display at one time.

But perhaps it could have multiple pages, like the block list.

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December 04, 2012, 03:56:02 PM
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https://bitminter.com/block/btc/0000000000000467e7479e1e2566551f1fb803a8df29ab74ddcd71868de3371d

Last block mined has 0 TX in. Something might be wrong.

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December 04, 2012, 05:42:51 PM
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Last block mined has 0 TX in. Something might be wrong.

Just some miners still on ancient cgminer versions. Those blocks are already rare and will be rarer as more people upgrade their miners. I send a message to upgrade whenever those miners get a reject, but I guess most miners aren't watching their logs that much.

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December 04, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
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Last block mined has 0 TX in. Something might be wrong.

Just some miners still on ancient cgminer versions. Those blocks are already rare and will be rarer as more people upgrade their miners. I send a message to upgrade whenever those miners get a reject, but I guess most miners aren't watching their logs that much.


Can you explain it, please? What is so wrong with old versions?
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BTC block at height 210874
Minted by: dynasty
That's mean dynasty have old, obsolete cgminer version and that's why we generated empty, useless block?
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December 05, 2012, 06:40:55 AM
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Can you explain it, please? What is so wrong with old versions?

Old cgminer/bfgminer have a bug that suddenly make them request work from the server over and over as fast as they can. This amounts to a DDoS attack which can be quite heavy for the server. Giving those miners work that is as cheap as possible to produce is one of the many changes I made to keep things running smoothly even with those miners sometimes going nuts.

That's mean dynasty have old, obsolete cgminer version and that's why we generated empty, useless block?

Maybe. Long poll is also feeding miners empty blocks, so that could also be the reason. But those are not allowed to rollntime, so we are talking a very small amount of work. The chance to produce a block from this is very low.

Why use empty blocks for long poll? Because you can produce this work already before the block change. This way all miners are informed of the block change very quickly, which results in less rejected work.

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December 05, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
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Maybe. Long poll is also feeding miners empty blocks, so that could also be the reason. But those are not allowed to rollntime, so we are talking a very small amount of work. The chance to produce a block from this is very low.

Why use empty blocks for long poll? Because you can produce this work already before the block change. This way all miners are informed of the block change very quickly, which results in less rejected work.

I was thinking, why aren't pool operators announcing LP is being retired and force ppl to upgrade?  Even GBT is better than LP.

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December 05, 2012, 01:39:02 PM
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I was thinking, why aren't pool operators announcing LP is being retired and force ppl to upgrade?  Even GBT is better than LP.

The protocol is getwork. Both GBT and getwork use long polling (LP) to detect block changes. With getwork the server has to generate work for the miners, while with GBT or Stratum the miners generate their own work. Long polling is much faster for getwork miners if you can generate the work beforehand, which is possible with empty blocks. With a few tricks like that, plus var diff and rollntime, getwork is still useable, even for ASICs. I'm not saying it's the best choice, though. Wink

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December 05, 2012, 08:35:24 PM
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I was thinking, why aren't pool operators announcing LP is being retired and force ppl to upgrade?  Even GBT is better than LP.

The protocol is getwork. Both GBT and getwork use long polling (LP) to detect block changes. With getwork the server has to generate work for the miners, while with GBT or Stratum the miners generate their own work. Long polling is much faster for getwork miners if you can generate the work beforehand, which is possible with empty blocks. With a few tricks like that, plus var diff and rollntime, getwork is still useable, even for ASICs. I'm not saying it's the best choice, though. Wink

Actually, unless every pool that has been using LP since the beginning has been unable to support LP without sending out empty blocks, there is no excuse.

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December 06, 2012, 08:11:10 AM
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Actually, unless every pool that has been using LP since the beginning has been unable to support LP without sending out empty blocks, there is no excuse.

Faster long poll means less rejected work and fewer stale/orphan blocks, that's why.

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December 06, 2012, 08:32:45 AM
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The Approximate Mint speed in btc/day is still wrong for me. Do I need to download a newer version?

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When do you anticipate being able to define other pools through the gui (as secondary or primary pools)?
When the different protocols (Stratum, GBT, etc) come online for prod, will you be able to choose in the gui as well as alter difficulty?
When do you anticipate these items being rolled out (if at all)?

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December 06, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
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The Approximate Mint speed in btc/day is still wrong for me. Do I need to download a newer version?

The fix is only in a beta version so far. One user has reported a performance drop, so this hasn't been released as a stable version yet. There are some changes to reduce CPU usage for FPGA mining, so I want to be sure I didn't break something.

Perhaps you can help test it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.msg1378210#msg1378210

When do you anticipate being able to define other pools through the gui (as secondary or primary pools)?
When the different protocols (Stratum, GBT, etc) come online for prod, will you be able to choose in the gui as well as alter difficulty?
When do you anticipate these items being rolled out (if at all)?

Multi server and pool support will be coming. Most likely both GBT and Stratum too, which will be choosable in the GUI.

I may make it possible to alter difficulty, perhaps setting it on the website. Haven't decided on this yet.

I can't really say when things will be rolled out. As always, I will do my best to get the most important things out as quickly as possible.

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December 06, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
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pool dropped out for a couple of minutes.

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December 06, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
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Receiving unusual error when trying to connect to BitMinter:

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JSON stratum auth failed: <unknown reason>

cgminer works fine at all the other pools I use it at though. Any ideas?
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December 06, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
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Short question: is var diff enabled on default port, for GetWork miners?
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December 07, 2012, 12:44:10 AM
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A quick  5  day luck break down  dec 2,3,4,5,6     61 blocks      we should do  about 11-12 a day .   so 61 in 5 days  is high normal .


0 stales  and 0 orphans   for 61 blocks we should get 1 stale and 1.5 orphans  so the last 5 days have been a little better then normal.

I would like a lucky 5 day streak maybe 80 blocks with 0 and 0.  but grinding it out just above normal is okay. I will do this in 5 more days.

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December 07, 2012, 02:14:41 AM
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The Approximate Mint speed in btc/day is still wrong for me. Do I need to download a newer version?

The fix is only in a beta version so far. One user has reported a performance drop, so this hasn't been released as a stable version yet. There are some changes to reduce CPU usage for FPGA mining, so I want to be sure I didn't break something.

Perhaps you can help test it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.msg1378210#msg1378210

When do you anticipate being able to define other pools through the gui (as secondary or primary pools)?
When the different protocols (Stratum, GBT, etc) come online for prod, will you be able to choose in the gui as well as alter difficulty?
When do you anticipate these items being rolled out (if at all)?

Multi server and pool support will be coming. Most likely both GBT and Stratum too, which will be choosable in the GUI.

I may make it possible to alter difficulty, perhaps setting it on the website. Haven't decided on this yet.

I can't really say when things will be rolled out. As always, I will do my best to get the most important things out as quickly as possible.


Thanks and sure, will switch 1 bfl single to beta now.

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December 07, 2012, 02:31:11 AM
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The Approximate Mint speed in btc/day is still wrong for me. Do I need to download a newer version?

The fix is only in a beta version so far. One user has reported a performance drop, so this hasn't been released as a stable version yet. There are some changes to reduce CPU usage for FPGA mining, so I want to be sure I didn't break something.

Perhaps you can help test it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.msg1378210#msg1378210

When do you anticipate being able to define other pools through the gui (as secondary or primary pools)?
When the different protocols (Stratum, GBT, etc) come online for prod, will you be able to choose in the gui as well as alter difficulty?
When do you anticipate these items being rolled out (if at all)?

Multi server and pool support will be coming. Most likely both GBT and Stratum too, which will be choosable in the GUI.

I may make it possible to alter difficulty, perhaps setting it on the website. Haven't decided on this yet.

I can't really say when things will be rolled out. As always, I will do my best to get the most important things out as quickly as possible.


Thanks and sure, will switch 1 bfl single to beta now.

Hasnt been running long but looks like from 70-95MH/s slower. CPU is the same as before, roughly 14%

Let me know if you need to know what worker I am on.

eta: added a 7970 and it performed as normal

Edit #2: I switched back to the prod version and speeds look ok within the Client UI but the Stats webpage shows my ghps at 0. I currently have 3 fpga singles running in geographically dispersed locations (all usa)

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December 07, 2012, 02:59:25 AM
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The slightly higher rejects with stratum+cgminer on this pool should now be addressed in cgminer 2.9.7. If not, we need to examine why.

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