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Author Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff]  (Read 833214 times)
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March 17, 2013, 02:36:58 PM
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Hey guys i think i know whats happening but not totally sure so i wanted to ask . Today i had to shut down one of my Rigs.The slower one with 2 6970's so i could redo the water cooling loop. (New Tubing etc) Anyway before i shut that one PC down i was getting .13% share. Now with everything back up and running and a couple blocks passed for some reason it says i am at .6% share.

 I am only guessing but it says something about 10 shifts. Does this mean i get a penalty every time i reboot or shut a PC down for 10 shifts or blocks?

 I am just a little curious what that actually means? It does show both workers on the site at the right speed.

 I usually maintain or shut at least 1 build down a day thats why i am asking. Is this killing me?

If you work less then you get paid less. That's not a penalty. When we create a block you get paid for the amount of work you have in the last 10 completed shifts. That will start to drop as shifts are completed without you, after you have shut down. After you start up again it will rise as new shifts are completed with your work in them.

Simple way to see it: every proof of work you deliver is recorded in a shift. After that shift is completed this proof of work will be paid for any block found until 10 more shifts are completed, pushing the proof of work out of the 10 latest ones.

If your computers work 23 hours out of every 24 hours, then they get paid 95.8% of their potential because they have 4.2% downtime.



 Ah i understand now. I was thinking it might be the Pool hopping security thing. i did read something about 10 shifts so i knew i was on the right track just didn't completely understand it.

 So really its not that big of a deal if i have to shut one of them down for a few hours. Its already at .11% so i understand now.

 Thanks for explaining as id always rather ask and know for sure then just guess.

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March 17, 2013, 03:09:06 PM
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Ah i understand now. I was thinking it might be the Pool hopping security thing. i did read something about 10 shifts so i knew i was on the right track just didn't completely understand it.

We don't have a weird anti pool hopping feature that punishes you randomly like some pools. Every proof of work is treated the same. It doesn't matter if your hash rate bounces up and down or if you stop mining for a while. All work is treated fairly and equally.

The PPLNS reward system was analyzed and recommended by Meni Rosenfeld. You can read more about it in his paper here: https://bitcoil.co.il/pool_analysis.pdf

I came up with the shifts as a way to reduce server load and make it easier for users to see what's going on and verify that everything is correct.

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March 19, 2013, 01:15:25 AM
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43 blocks since the "fork" not bad.  the asic + the fork changed the luck. 

It also heated up namecoins   they quadrupled in price since the fork.  NMC were .00088 now they are .00377

 So the fork has really helped this pool.
I'd like to see the evidence that leads you to believe these things are somehow related. This is just about as hilarious as claiming my choise of breakfast affects the days weather.

I think it was meant to be humourous.



 jokes can be tough to get on  the net short typing etc. second, third, fourth languages in some cases.  But It was a joke.

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March 19, 2013, 03:12:33 AM
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If I get my Avalon miner, what CGminer parameters will I need to use when to start mining in this pool?


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March 19, 2013, 06:34:43 AM
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If I get my Avalon miner, what CGminer parameters will I need to use when to start mining in this pool?

Connect it to stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333 (Stratum) or http://mint.bitminter.com:8332 (GBT or getwork). As user name put your BitMinter user name, an underscore, then a worker name, e.g. DrHaribo_FastWorker. In case you have firewall issues, port 5050 (Stratum) and 80 (GBT/getwork) are also available.

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March 19, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
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If possible, why not just remove the password requirement from workers? I see many new users have problems authenticating their workers, and the password for workers is really useless anyway. You could even reuse the password that clients still have to submit for compatibility's sake. For example, Bitparking allows users to set a custom difficulty by using a pass like this: d=32. Users (including me Smiley) have requested a setting for minimum difficulty, this would be one way to implement it, and also help new users at the same time. Just authenticate the miner and use default difficulty settings if the password field doesn't contain a difficulty request.

EDIT: Also, don't use the password for custom difficulty if a user hasn't reset his password after being made aware of the feature!

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March 19, 2013, 09:28:31 PM
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 Well just dumped another $427.00 on another 7970.Since i don't see a way to buy an ASIC yet. So that's 3 7970's and 2 6970's so far. Hope i didnt make a mistake as i plan on buying 1 more 7970 also if this one pays for itself.

 Well wish me luck and love the pool its been very good to us lately.

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March 19, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
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If possible, why not just remove the password requirement from workers? I see many new users have problems authenticating their workers, and the password for workers is really useless anyway. You could even reuse the password that clients still have to submit for compatibility's sake. For example, Bitparking allows users to set a custom difficulty by using a pass like this: d=32. Users (including me Smiley) have requested a setting for minimum difficulty, this would be one way to implement it, and also help new users at the same time. Just authenticate the miner and use default difficulty settings if the password field doesn't contain a difficulty request.

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  Well just dumped another $427.00 on another 7970.Since i don't see a way to buy an ASIC yet. So that's 3 7970's and 2 6970's so far. Hope i didnt make a mistake as i plan on buying 1 more 7970 also if this one pays for itself.

 Well wish me luck and love the pool its been very good to us lately.

Oh dear. Good luck, you will need it. Buying GPUs now is suicidal IMO.
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png
And it hasnt even really begun yet, BFL is yet to begin shipping.
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March 20, 2013, 03:07:25 AM
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If I get my Avalon miner, what CGminer parameters will I need to use when to start mining in this pool?

Connect it to stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333 (Stratum) or http://mint.bitminter.com:8332 (GBT or getwork). As user name put your BitMinter user name, an underscore, then a worker name, e.g. DrHaribo_FastWorker. In case you have firewall issues, port 5050 (Stratum) and 80 (GBT/getwork) are also available.


Thanks very much. Just over the last few hours I've gotten very familiar with CGminer and some of it's command line switches. Thanks.

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 Well just dumped another $427.00 on another 7970.Since i don't see a way to buy an ASIC yet. So that's 3 7970's and 2 6970's so far. Hope i didnt make a mistake as i plan on buying 1 more 7970 also if this one pays for itself.

 Well wish me luck and love the pool its been very good to us lately.



What is the speed of a 7970? MH/S? 600-650, I found it.


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March 20, 2013, 08:07:16 AM
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Just a suggestion for all Avalon users
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wr703N (at least mine) has not enough memory to work work with GBT. Make sure that you are mining with stratum. Be prepared for hard restart power off/on of your unit at least once a day Wink . There is something wrong with FW or controller or god knows what and occasionally HW error rate increases and no new shares are accepted. I have not played with soft way to recover, but powering off/on always works. I am sure Avalon team will fix it in the near feature.


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March 20, 2013, 11:16:33 AM
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 Well just dumped another $427.00 on another 7970.Since i don't see a way to buy an ASIC yet. So that's 3 7970's and 2 6970's so far. Hope i didnt make a mistake as i plan on buying 1 more 7970 also if this one pays for itself.

 Well wish me luck and love the pool its been very good to us lately.



yeah, this bizarre behavior going on

i was going to buy a card for gaming, but i guess i'll have to wait another month or so.

if you think bitcoin price is going to go up, then you should buy bitcoins, not gpus

i wouldnt touch either, but then, i suppose i said the same thing at $35

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March 20, 2013, 03:24:25 PM
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I'm using my Google account to log in, and my browser keeps that account logged in until I clear the cookies. However, BitMinter requires me to log in for each browser session, which just quickly takes me through the Google page (which sees that I'm already logged in) after the first session. I'd prefer to stay logged in on BitMinter as long as I'm logged in to my Google account, but is that possible?

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March 21, 2013, 12:03:55 AM
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 Had a Question Please,


  I have 2 workers going right now and they don't show even close to what the Bitminter website does.

This is what i mean:

Worker 1:

2 x 6970's 950mhz Core
Client says: 840mhps
Bitminter site says: 943.072 mhps

Worker 2: (My best one)

2 x 7970's 1120mhz core
Client says:1302mhps
Bitminter site says:715.768mhps

 As you can see there is no way possible Worker 1 is close to as powerful as worker 2 so thats wrong. i can see them being a little low mabye do to network or something but they bot seem way off from my clients.

 Also my internet speed is roughly 70mbs I have very fast internet so cant be a problem there.

 Is something wrong here? Like i said i can see them being a little off but worker 2 is close to twice the speed as worker 1 yet shows slower on the website.

 Appreciate the help as i just ordered that new GPU and want everything right by the time it gets her.

Thanks guys


 EDIT: Never mind guys Worker 2 just jumped up to 1,548.895 which seems about right, maybe it just bounces around or something. but on my client its steady.
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March 21, 2013, 03:29:56 AM
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...
 EDIT: Never mind guys Worker 2 just jumped up to 1,548.895 which seems about right, maybe it just bounces around or something. but on my client its steady.
Bitcion mining speed converges over time.
The pools calculation is random (share finding is random)
Expecting those 2 numbers to be the same means you misunderstood the 2 numbers.

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March 21, 2013, 03:24:10 PM
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 Where did Bitminter go? Just realized all workers offline and no Bitminter page?
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March 21, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
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Workers online here (I hope), but no Bitminter page. Huh
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March 21, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
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Instability with the web server today. Apologies for that.

That also means port 80 mining has been unstable.

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March 22, 2013, 02:55:46 AM
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Trying to sign a new worker on.  A mac. What am I doing wrong.  I have a lot of pc's on line I have java loaded.  I click the button and no software comes up.

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March 22, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
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Why am I mining nothing but miscalculations? I got 90 in 10 minutes. I haven't mined for a long time, but my drivers are up to date. I have the 13.3 beta 2's I have two 6950s @ 800Mhz

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