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November 23, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
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Sean Brady did an amazing work defeating Michael Chiesa, he kept his perfect mma record with 15 wins ands I expect to see him jumping in much better position for welterweight division.
Chiesa was 6th in UFC ranking for his division and Bready was 14th, so I think he deserves to be on number seven or eight and in top 10 for sure.
He was calling for main event and five rounds in his next fight and some of the top 10 or top 5 fighter.


I really didn't expect Brady would win, but after that performance, he sure will skyrocket on a higher rank and might be able to compete for the belt, but with Chiesa match, he surely shown how he can handle the situation more calm and technical, I think he surely controls every round and giving pressure with his takedowns that I though Michael Chiesa would do, well I was shocked to see the opposite Sean Brady really deserves the praise, but after this match, the next match will surely be hard now that he had risen the rankings,

But because of his performance, I will surely look forward to what he can still do in his future fights and if he's able to keep the undefeated record.

The belt?  Uh no..  Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady.  He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is.  And try watching the match again.  He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker.  I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend.  -_-

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November 23, 2021, 10:12:00 PM
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I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.

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November 24, 2021, 12:06:24 AM
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The belt?  Uh no..  Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady.  He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is.  And try watching the match again.  He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker.  I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend.  -_-
Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.
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November 24, 2021, 02:11:56 AM
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I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.


That would be like breaking a huge wall in front of him. Bready should take this fight seriously and he needs some motivation to go for the knockout if he wanted to preserve his record. either way, this will be a great experience for him he should show everyone how skilled a fighter he is and if he will be failed, at least he got some idea of how to fight stronger opponents than him. This will be a good fight because neither one of them will give up their record.

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November 24, 2021, 01:17:44 PM
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I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.


That would be like breaking a huge wall in front of him. Bready should take this fight seriously and he needs some motivation to go for the knockout if he wanted to preserve his record. either way, this will be a great experience for him he should show everyone how skilled a fighter he is and if he will be failed, at least he got some idea of how to fight stronger opponents than him. This will be a good fight because neither one of them will give up their record.

Brady isn't really exceptional but yes he is strong that is why he has no loss. Bready he is an aggressive fighter though, he just kept the pressure and he knows he can take down with his strength but In the last round with Chiesa, I think he was just saved by the bell while Chiesa was on his back.


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November 24, 2021, 03:27:29 PM
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The belt?  Uh no..  Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady.  He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is.  And try watching the match again.  He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker.  I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend.  -_-
Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.

^  Ryan Hall could win but I’m really not sure about that line at 1.45 and it’s 2.75 for Minner.  I mean especially after Hall was exposed by Ilia Topiria in their last match. I’d bet Hall at around 1.70 or better..  At the current line, no bueno.

Another interesting match up is O’Malley vs Paiva.  Seems like another good spot for the underdog...  And Kara France vs Garbrandt could be another underdog spot.  Can’t wait.  Smiley


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November 24, 2021, 03:30:09 PM
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The belt?  Uh no..  Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady.  He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is.  And try watching the match again.  He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker.  I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend.  -_-
Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.

And that coming from Chiesa, he always seemed like a super-strong guy. Chiesa kinda went on a really nice winning streak and seemed back on track, but these two losses, I hadn't thought he would do so badly. It's like he seems so close to breaking out, and then something goes wrong and he gets back to the end of the line. A shame.

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November 24, 2021, 09:38:02 PM
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Yeah, that 2 minute video in my post above is a good source for those who don't have time to watch many of Chimaev's fights, but still want to know about his style and potential. The video has got above 1 million views already, and for a good reason. It kind of summarizes in short form the phenomenon of Khamzat Chimaev.

That is why I really think that Khamzat Chimaev is a promising fighter and needs a title shot that he wants and if he wants it then he surely deserves it, That power he has with his grappling I think he has the best grappling in the division no doubt about it.

If you mean, Kamaru Usman is on the higher level, then I think you still underestimate Chimaev. Smiley

I mean a higher level towards the belt, I really believe that he is cut to fight Kamaru Usman, and deserves a shot into a title match, I surely never underestimate Chimaev, like I have said I will surely support him all the way.


The belt?  Uh no..  Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady.  He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is.  And try watching the match again.  He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker.  I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend.  -_-

Well, we may never know if he really works hard in giving his all maybe he can take a step further, but yes that fight is not really that outstanding but in what I see he really dominates Chiesa on the ring, that I thought it will go the other way around, I have bet for Michael Chiesa and I really never expected the result that Sean Brady could win, but maybe sometime after this fight he can be worth a shot for the title match.

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November 24, 2021, 10:00:03 PM
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^  Ryan Hall could win but I’m really not sure about that line at 1.45 and it’s 2.75 for Minner.  I mean especially after Hall was exposed by Ilia Topiria in their last match. I’d bet Hall at around 1.70 or better..  At the current line, no bueno.

Another interesting match up is O’Malley vs Paiva.  Seems like another good spot for the underdog...  And Kara France vs Garbrandt could be another underdog spot.  Can’t wait.  Smiley


Always worth betting Ryan Hall by submission I think, if there are any websites which allow me to bet on what type of submission, please let me know because for the foreseeable future I would chuck a leg lock submission down every single time on him.

Definitely was exposed, though it's nice to see him actually fighting somewhat regular again. I know everyone is loving O'Malley, but I actually think he's rather weak willed, and will be exposed as he climbs into the top fighters.

Well, we may never know if he really works hard in giving his all maybe he can take a step further, but yes that fight is not really that outstanding but in what I see he really dominates Chiesa on the ring, that I thought it will go the other way around, I have bet for Michael Chiesa and I really never expected the result that Sean Brady could win, but maybe sometime after this fight he can be worth a shot for the title match.


He needs to significantly work on areas that isn't wrestling for him to have a chance, and he doesn't seem to want to do that so far in his career. He isn't going to wrestle himself to the belt, far too many dangerous fighters in the division.
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I mean a higher level towards the belt, I really believe that he is cut to fight Kamaru Usman, and deserves a shot into a title match, I surely never underestimate Chimaev, like I have said I will surely support him all the way.
Does it mean that you will place  bet when ever he fights, even when he faces Kamaru Usman  Wink. I am a huge fan of Khamzat Chimaev and he will steam roll everyone easily and if he wants to move to Middle weight division i am sure he will easily beat Israel Adesanya because his weakness on the ground is not a huge secret and i doubt he will be having any offense with his chain wrestling, but Kamaru Usman will be a really good fight which i would like to see.

Next he is facing Gilbert Burns and if Khamzat Chimaev can beat him like he used to defeat his other opponents, he might get the title shot next.
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Does it mean that you will place  bet when ever he fights, even when he faces Kamaru Usman  Wink. I am a huge fan of Khamzat Chimaev and he will steam roll everyone easily and if he wants to move to Middle weight division i am sure he will easily beat Israel Adesanya because his weakness on the ground is not a huge secret and i doubt he will be having any offense with his chain wrestling, but Kamaru Usman will be a really good fight which i would like to see.

Next he is facing Gilbert Burns and if Khamzat Chimaev can beat him like he used to defeat his other opponents, he might get the title shot next.
Alright, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Chimaev needs to prove he can do it in his current division before he thinks about moving to others. Also, I don't think it'll be as easy as your suggesting. Chimmaev while definitely looking like a potential problem in his current division, that doesn't mean he easily beats one of the best strikers in MMA. In fact, many wrestlers before him thought they could beat Izzy, but they struggled to close the distance.

The think about Adesanya is he's very long so he can keep the distance against most people, and is probably the best striker in the division. Plus, he also has some decent take down defense. Yeah, he struggled a bit against Jan, but we have to remember that Izzy moved up a division, and weighed considerably less than Jan, while that isn't an excuse because he choose to do that, it definitely contributed to how easy it was for Jan to use his weight against Izzy.

Chimaev doesn't have that advantage, and while he might be strong, and definitely very technical so were many others that have tried similar things against Izzy. It's a total different story when you have one of the best strikers in front of you throwing fists, and legs at you.

For example, everyone thought Costa would just walk through Izzy's shots like he usually fights, but what we saw was the opposite, he was reluctant to move in, and when he did decide to move in it was lights out for him.

I think while Chimaev definitely deserves the hype, I think a lot of people are jumping the gun just a little bit. He has yet to be tested, when he's tested i.e his plan A doesn't work, we'll see how well rounded he is. Gilbert Burns despite being a good fighter, isn't on the level of the current champion as this was proven quite convincingly recently, alright I do think I recall Burns catching Usman, but Usman fought back in convincing fashion.
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Does it mean that you will place  bet when ever he fights, even when he faces Kamaru Usman  Wink. I am a huge fan of Khamzat Chimaev and he will steam roll everyone easily and if he wants to move to Middle weight division i am sure he will easily beat Israel Adesanya because his weakness on the ground is not a huge secret and i doubt he will be having any offense with his chain wrestling, but Kamaru Usman will be a really good fight which i would like to see.

Next he is facing Gilbert Burns and if Khamzat Chimaev can beat him like he used to defeat his other opponents, he might get the title shot next.
Alright, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Chimaev needs to prove he can do it in his current division before he thinks about moving to others. Also, I don't think it'll be as easy as your suggesting. Chimmaev while definitely looking like a potential problem in his current division, that doesn't mean he easily beats one of the best strikers in MMA. In fact, many wrestlers before him thought they could beat Izzy, but they struggled to close the distance.

The think about Adesanya is he's very long so he can keep the distance against most people, and is probably the best striker in the division. Plus, he also has some decent take down defense. Yeah, he struggled a bit against Jan, but we have to remember that Izzy moved up a division, and weighed considerably less than Jan, while that isn't an excuse because he choose to do that, it definitely contributed to how easy it was for Jan to use his weight against Izzy.

Chimaev doesn't have that advantage, and while he might be strong, and definitely very technical so were many others that have tried similar things against Izzy. It's a total different story when you have one of the best strikers in front of you throwing fists, and legs at you.

For example, everyone thought Costa would just walk through Izzy's shots like he usually fights, but what we saw was the opposite, he was reluctant to move in, and when he did decide to move in it was lights out for him.

I think while Chimaev definitely deserves the hype, I think a lot of people are jumping the gun just a little bit. He has yet to be tested, when he's tested i.e his plan A doesn't work, we'll see how well rounded he is. Gilbert Burns despite being a good fighter, isn't on the level of the current champion as this was proven quite convincingly recently, alright I do think I recall Burns catching Usman, but Usman fought back in convincing fashion.

Although Chimaev has only a few fight experiences in the UFC I think he can beat a lot of top fighters. He may have been hyped too much but I think he got the competence to build his career to the top to get there with Usman and Adesanya. These two however are really going to make Chimaev hard to get there.

As long as they are in thier prime, Usman nor Adesanya will beat him unless Chimaev can grab them by their legs turning the fight to Chimaev's advantage.

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Although Chimaev has only a few fight experiences in the UFC I think he can beat a lot of top fighters. He may have been hyped too much but I think he got the competence to build his career to the top to get there with Usman and Adesanya. These two however are really going to make Chimaev hard to get there.

As long as they are in thier prime, Usman nor Adesanya will beat him unless Chimaev can grab them by their legs turning the fight to Chimaev's advantage.

My issue with Chimaev right now is, he has had ten fights in his career, he's won all of them without much of a problem. However, he hasn't exactly fought the best of fighters during those first ten fights. Jingliang Li, and Jack Hermansson being the most impressive, but other than that relatively unknown fighters at the time.

He's moving in the right direction, but I'm not putting him up for a title shot yet. He's doing well, but like I said at the moment he has gone through fights without much of a problem. I want to see how he performs when his plan A doesn't work, which is what happens against the better fighters. Usman can wrestle, and Chimaev will find it difficult, and will have to use a different approach. The issue with that is from what we've seen, and I know its limited, Usman wins all day on the feet.
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Well, we may never know if he really works hard in giving his all maybe he can take a step further, but yes that fight is not really that outstanding but in what I see he really dominates Chiesa on the ring, that I thought it will go the other way around, I have bet for Michael Chiesa and I really never expected the result that Sean Brady could win, but maybe sometime after this fight he can be worth a shot for the title match.

He needs to significantly work on areas that isn't wrestling for him to have a chance, and he doesn't seem to want to do that so far in his career. He isn't going to wrestle himself to the belt, far too many dangerous fighters in the division.

Well he surely needs to work on that and I think all fighters need to hone the basic and the significant main need for the MMA is surely boxing or striking your opponent, and if he lacks in that division certain fighters could expose that and use that on their advantage, and just like you have said in facing a dangerous opponent on that division he wouldn't be just wrestling his way to the belt unless he is a good of a wrestler like Khabib Nurmagomenodov.

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I mean a higher level towards the belt, I really believe that he is cut to fight Kamaru Usman, and deserves a shot into a title match, I surely never underestimate Chimaev, like I have said I will surely support him all the way.
Does it mean that you will place  bet when ever he fights, even when he faces Kamaru Usman  Wink. I am a huge fan of Khamzat Chimaev and he will steam roll everyone easily and if he wants to move to Middle weight division i am sure he will easily beat Israel Adesanya because his weakness on the ground is not a huge secret and i doubt he will be having any offense with his chain wrestling, but Kamaru Usman will be a really good fight which i would like to see.

Next he is facing Gilbert Burns and if Khamzat Chimaev can beat him like he used to defeat his other opponents, he might get the title shot next.

Like I said I really love the way he fights it brings back the memories of how I liked Khabib Nurmagomenodov the way he fights and become undisputed and that is thanks to his style Dagenstan or Chain Wrestling really is very effective in my opinion, and regarding Khamzat Chimaev he really racks up hype when he defeated Li Jinliang as we have never seen Jinliang beats up like that, and regarding the Gilbert Burns fight I got to admit this is surely a hard fight for Chimaev if he gets Burns to the ground and if he can really dominate Burn on the ground that is a big question, well I really love to see it and will surely bet for it.

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November 25, 2021, 09:36:32 AM
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Important thing about Chimaev - we do not know anything about his cardio. He never fought longer than 2 rounds or longer than 7 minutes.~

Yeah, there's the most liked comment below one video of his recent fight that goes like "Tell Chimaev that in addition to the first round, there are others too."  Grin  But jokes aside, with all due respect to the great fighter Kamaru Usman, I think Chimaev can beat him.

Btw, here's the newest interview with Usman(click on the image):




He is so confident and so relaxed, you can't stop loving this guy.

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That is why I really think that Khamzat Chimaev is a promising fighter and needs a title shot that he wants and if he wants it then he surely deserves it, That power he has with his grappling I think he has the best grappling in the division no doubt about it.

He started wrestling when he was 5 years old, and he is a three-time Swedish National champion in wrestling. So, I agree with you when you say "he has the best grappling". I mean, it's not entirely surprising, right? Smiley

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My 2 cents on a possible Usman vs Chimaev fight:

Usmas is better at striking. Trevor Wittman is a god of coaching striking. He helped Usman to get on first place on pound for pound rating. Chimaev trains striking with Alexander Gustafsson coach. Anyone remember Gustafsson being a top striker?

Wrestling. No doubt that Chimaev is good. But Usmans main fighting style is wrestling also, plus black belt in BJJ. Most of Chimaev opponent were not wrestlers on the first place. Chimaev has fought only once against pure wrestler - Ikram Askerov. They have found on Brave. Askerov is from combat sambo. Yes he has lost via knockout, but Chimaevs wrestling did not work in that fight. If you happened to find this fight in the Internet, you would see that Askerov countered every wrestling skills of Chimaev. So I would not rely on Chimaevs wrestling much.

Usmas is way more experienced than Chimaev. I think he is better at striking. If we cross out wrestling, Usman has more advantages.

P.S. I have updated current UFC event post with fight.

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November 25, 2021, 03:58:01 PM
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^  If Usman and Chimaev were to fight next, how would you line the fight or how do you think the sports betting sites will line it..?

I think they will open the market line right in the middle.  Prolly 1.90 - 2.00 for either one of them making it a coin flip.  Sharp money usually come first to find value but if lined in the middle, the sharps would not want to move the line first and give value to whoever becomes the underdog.  Chimaev could be that special.

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He started wrestling when he was 5 years old, and he is a three-time Swedish National champion in wrestling. So, I agree with you when you say "he has the best grappling". I mean, it's not entirely surprising, right? Smiley

This is why between Gilbert Burns if Chimaev would surely have a problem with Wrestling against Burns I think he may result in striking and I am very confident with the power of his striking, but I still think against Chimaev, Burns will surely have a hard time with his Chain Wrestling, and even if they are on the ringside it is still proven effective, that is why I am really confident on Khamzat Chimaev.

^  If Usman and Chimaev were to fight next, how would you line the fight or how do you think the sports betting sites will line it..?

I think they will open the market line right in the middle.  Prolly 1.90 - 2.00 for either one of them making it a coin flip.  Sharp money usually come first to find value but if lined in the middle, the sharps would not want to move the line first and give value to whoever becomes the underdog.  Chimaev could be that special.

I agree, if the hype on Chimaev is pretty huge it may come to that conclusion but I guess there is still a Kamaru Usman fan that may bet for him or believes in him, so it may also come to a close odds.
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November 25, 2021, 09:09:29 PM
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Kamaru Usman would still be a huge favorite in fight against Khamzat Chimaev, because he is a champion and he has much more experience in pro mma fighting.
He is seven years older and have slight reach advantage, but most important is that he had many fights with five rounds, and I think Chimaev never did that.
Usman just said that he broke his hand few weeks before fight with Colby Covington, he still won that fight so you know he is very hard to break.
It would be a great fight to watch and one that should not be missed.

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^  Ryan Hall could win but I’m really not sure about that line at 1.45 and it’s 2.75 for Minner.  I mean especially after Hall was exposed by Ilia Topiria in their last match. I’d bet Hall at around 1.70 or better..  At the current line, no bueno.

Another interesting match up is O’Malley vs Paiva.  Seems like another good spot for the underdog...  And Kara France vs Garbrandt could be another underdog spot.  Can’t wait.  Smiley


Always worth betting Ryan Hall by submission I think, if there are any websites which allow me to bet on what type of submission, please let me know because for the foreseeable future I would chuck a leg lock submission down every single time on him.

Definitely was exposed, though it's nice to see him actually fighting somewhat regular again. I know everyone is loving O'Malley, but I actually think he's rather weak willed, and will be exposed as he climbs into the top fighters.


About Ryan Hall, he was exposed in his last fight, but that alone would not be an issue. The thing is he is being figured out. I am a BJJ guy myself, and always rooted for Hall, but the infrequency of his fighting led him to get kinda left behind as fighters moved on in their styles, knowledge, and technics. Who knows, maybe he can pull something out of his ass for a couple of more fights and get a nice streak going. 

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