🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TopTort777]

Have you watched UFC 269 pre-fight conference? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO4qWxStBA)

I like the logic behind Nunes and Pena talk Pena ask why Nunes did not fight with her when they last time talked ? Nunes answered - because you have lost your fight and you can not demand a title fight after a loss. Pena - "but you promised". Nunes - "yes, but you have lost". Pena - "but you have promised". Nunes - "I would have fought you if you have won". Pena - "you promised". Women logic (sorry) Glad that Dana stopped that, because they could talk like that for ages

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[tokeweed]

You can be right about this and Ryan Hall could get another loss from Darrick Minner, and comparing their body build maybe Minner has power on his takedown defense, and that Imanari Roll is really outdated right now maybe he builds new tricks up his sleeves well, I really don't want my expectation on Ryan Hall to disintegrate that is why I am giving this fight to him and if Darrick Minner could go on with a ground fight I really think Ryan Hall can have his way around, but If Minner can have a tip on Ryan Hall's recent fight against Ilia Topuria and preventing those Imanari Roll, and if Ryan Hall only knows that one technique they he surely underestimating the level of UFC right now.

This is often the case for Ryan Hall though. He doesn't really need the strength that other fighters have because he prioritises technique. Though, I have to admit a Ryan Hall who was semi decent at stand up, and someone who had a little more muscle to him would be absolutely scary for anyone in the division. It's a shame really that he didn't seem to fight more in the UFC, and try a different approach now, and again. HIs submissions are well pulled off most of the time, but I just wish he did try to become a more rounded fighter.

Obviously, he's getting on a bit now so its not likely going to happen. Would have also liked to see him fight more, but I do believe quite a few fighters were ducking him.

I feel like Ryan Hall subs Minner just from judging how poor Minner was in his last fight.  But the problem is the line...  Ryan Hall at 1.50 is not very enticing but Ryan Hall at 2.60 at Stake kinda is since how else is he going to win vs Minner?

The under 2.5 rounds is now juiced at 1.62.  I should’ve bet it when it was at around 1.75.

It looks like this event is gonna be really good now that I have been poking around Tapology.  I think there’s some plus money unders there that could hit.

[YuginKadoya]

You can be right about this and Ryan Hall could get another loss from Darrick Minner, and comparing their body build maybe Minner has power on his takedown defense, and that Imanari Roll is really outdated right now maybe he builds new tricks up his sleeves well, I really don't want my expectation on Ryan Hall to disintegrate that is why I am giving this fight to him and if Darrick Minner could go on with a ground fight I really think Ryan Hall can have his way around, but If Minner can have a tip on Ryan Hall's recent fight against Ilia Topuria and preventing those Imanari Roll, and if Ryan Hall only knows that one technique they he surely underestimating the level of UFC right now.

This is often the case for Ryan Hall though. He doesn't really need the strength that other fighters have because he prioritises technique. Though, I have to admit a Ryan Hall who was semi decent at stand up, and someone who had a little more muscle to him would be absolutely scary for anyone in the division. It's a shame really that he didn't seem to fight more in the UFC, and try a different approach now, and again. HIs submissions are well pulled off most of the time, but I just wish he did try to become a more rounded fighter.

Obviously, he's getting on a bit now so its not likely going to happen. Would have also liked to see him fight more, but I do believe quite a few fighters were ducking him.

I really want Ryan Hall to redeem himself, that is why I am picking him this time although I am surely having doubts if he can full something and clutch a surprise attack over Minner because just like him Darrick Minner isn't quite good aswell with the standup, pretty much if Ryan Hall wants a higher level on the UFC he would surely need to build some muscle just in case, well if he can pull a good stand-up and just hurt his opponent a little, there would be a surprise factor over it and then he can pull off his Imanari roll by surprise, in times a surprise attack is very effective and if Ryan Hall can pull a splendid attack like that it is very unusual for him doing something like that,

Have you watched UFC 269 pre-fight conference? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO4qWxStBA)

I like the logic behind Nunes and Pena talk Pena ask why Nunes did not fight with her when they last time talked ? Nunes answered - because you have lost your fight and you can not demand a title fight after a loss. Pena - "but you promised". Nunes - "yes, but you have lost". Pena - "but you have promised". Nunes - "I would have fought you if you have won". Pena - "you promised". Women logic (sorry) Glad that Dana stopped that, because they could talk like that for ages

Are they talking about Cat Zingano? on the UFC 200 on the Julianna Peña VS Cat Zingano I think Zingano pretty much is dominating the strength department on the 1st and 2nd round but I guess her gas tank went completely low that she can not make another takedown and just surviving a submission from Peña, but if Zingano has a lot of stamina she might win it, but it was a clear win of Julianna Peña having dominated the other last rounds,

And simply that conversation from Julianna Peña and Amanda Nunes would surely take forever if Dana White would not get on top.

[CryptoBuds]

Have you watched UFC 269 pre-fight conference? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO4qWxStBA)

I like the logic behind Nunes and Pena talk Pena ask why Nunes did not fight with her when they last time talked ? Nunes answered - because you have lost your fight and you can not demand a title fight after a loss. Pena - "but you promised". Nunes - "yes, but you have lost". Pena - "but you have promised". Nunes - "I would have fought you if you have won". Pena - "you promised". Women logic (sorry) Glad that Dana stopped that, because they could talk like that for ages

Are they talking about Cat Zingano? on the UFC 200 on the Julianna Peña VS Cat Zingano I think Zingano pretty much is dominating the strength department on the 1st and 2nd round but I guess her gas tank went completely low that she can not make another takedown and just surviving a submission from Peña, but if Zingano has a lot of stamina she might win it, but it was a clear win of Julianna Peña having dominated the other last rounds,

And simply that conversation from Julianna Peña and Amanda Nunes would surely take forever if Dana White would not get on top.

^^ Cat Zingano vs Julianna pena was a good fight. I remember Cat being really aggressive in the first 2 rounds but then she got tired and was in survival mode from round 3. She did slip from a rear-necked choke from Julianna beautifully but in the end, Juliana was just better.
And about that press conference, I really don't know what to say. Nice logic by the way,  . Dana being the wise man, did the right thing lol.

[TopTort777]

What about Sean O'Malley? The fighter is a star (at least he thinks he is). His fights are always get a lot of attention. But we dont have a single line  of discussion on last pages. He seems very popular, but yet is not in top10 of bantamweight. Almost all of his UFC fights get a reward of the night. But he is fighting some kind of no-names. He got only 1 good opponent from top (Marlon Vera) and did not stand a round against him. He had some trash talk with Garbrandt, maybe trying to get attention or a future fight against a top opponent.

Now O'Malley fights against a good opponent, but not very popular in UFC. Do you think that he will win? Or UFC are building O'Malley career ?

[Minor Miner]

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Darrick Minner is also a wrestler if you look at his stats he has 26 wins and 12 losses 1 win by knockout 22 wins by submission and 3 by decision, if you can look carefully and Darrick Minner doesn't have a good leg kick, and not good at the stand up so most of the time he will surely always go with the takedowns, but if he can up his game with his striking or boxing then there might be a way for him, but I doubt if he is more familiar with his style now.

Yeah right, I think Darrick Minner excels in wrestling situations. Seen high time he can dominate when he can take the fight to the ground. Of course, Darrick can go for the takedowns but he has to score them. If he can't make them count then he's in big trouble. He will surely have to close the gap. But if he can improve his standing game then he always can throw some fixes that can work out great for him.

[TheNineClub]

Did you guys see the Mike Perry scuffle that went on at a BKFC event?

https://www.instagram.com/mmauncensoredplus_/p/CXSWaHGjUTv/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR2KVukKPhUxW4e4_C_lVGJzh_FGUsU5LE17NL3aush4G_FPfPwuELvhz_A

At least he's living up to his reputation this could bring some attention to the promotion. Missed Perry in the UFC, you could always count on him throwing a mental curveball XD In all honesty, I think he might do very well in BKFC. And he's keeping busy with Submission Underground and Triller.

[notblox1]

I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuSeTGEc_o

[BALIK]

You can be right about this and Ryan Hall could get another loss from Darrick Minner, and comparing their body build maybe Minner has power on his takedown defense, and that Imanari Roll is really outdated right now maybe he builds new tricks up his sleeves well, I really don't want my expectation on Ryan Hall to disintegrate that is why I am giving this fight to him and if Darrick Minner could go on with a ground fight I really think Ryan Hall can have his way around, but If Minner can have a tip on Ryan Hall's recent fight against Ilia Topuria and preventing those Imanari Roll, and if Ryan Hall only knows that one technique they he surely underestimating the level of UFC right now.

This is often the case for Ryan Hall though. He doesn't really need the strength that other fighters have because he prioritises technique. Though, I have to admit a Ryan Hall who was semi decent at stand up, and someone who had a little more muscle to him would be absolutely scary for anyone in the division. It's a shame really that he didn't seem to fight more in the UFC, and try a different approach now, and again. HIs submissions are well pulled off most of the time, but I just wish he did try to become a more rounded fighter.
Obviously, he's getting on a bit now so its not likely going to happen. Would have also liked to see him fight more, but I do believe quite a few fighters were ducking him.

I really want Ryan Hall to redeem himself, that is why I am picking him this time although I am surely having doubts if he can full something and clutch a surprise attack over Minner because just like him Darrick Minner isn't quite good aswell with the standup, pretty much if Ryan Hall wants a higher level on the UFC he would surely need to build some muscle just in case, well if he can pull a good stand-up and just hurt his opponent a little, there would be a surprise factor over it and then he can pull off his Imanari roll by surprise, in times a surprise attack is very effective and if Ryan Hall can pull a splendid attack like that it is very unusual for him doing something like that,

I think that he leads to get the feel of it at first. Maybe throw some gaps, feel each other a little. You will surely maintain a distance with your opponent. I am talking about Ryan Hall by the way. His kicking is great and he will surely utilize his leg kicks. And If didn't even talk about Imanari roll. It will be hard to stand-up against him.
 Placed my bet on Hall, hope will win tomorrow...

[Welsh]

I think that he leads to get the feel of it at first. Maybe throw some gaps, feel each other a little. You will surely maintain a distance with your opponent. I am talking about Ryan Hall by the way. His kicking is great and he will surely utilize his leg kicks. And If didn't even talk about Imanari roll. It will be hard to stand-up against him.
 Placed my bet on Hall, hope will win tomorrow...

I'd say its highly unlikely if Ryan Hall is going to win, he won't be knocking his opponent out, and its unlikely to go to a decision. If its a BJJ match, then Ryan Hall likely has him submitted within a round or two, but probably the first round.

I've put a bet on for Ryan Hall by finish (mainly because I couldn't get just a submission bet) for 2.20 if I recall correctly. If he is to win, which is definitely a doubt due to his last outing, its got to be by submission, surely?

I'm probably biased because I quite like Ryan Hall, but he's my favourite of the night despite having some doubts because of his last outing. I actually think Sean O'Malley is going to run into an opponent that he won't be able to get out of there easy, and could potentially struggle. Although, I'm not quite sold on O'Malley yet, obviously a great talent, but flashy stuff doesn't always mean wins.

[YuginKadoya]

^^ Cat Zingano vs Julianna pena was a good fight. I remember Cat being really aggressive in the first 2 rounds but then she got tired and was in survival mode from round 3. She did slip from a rear-necked choke from Julianna beautifully but in the end, Juliana was just better.
And about that press conference, I really don't know what to say. Nice logic by the way,  . Dana being the wise man, did the right thing lol.

Cat Zingano beat Amanda Nunes back on September 27, 2014, were Zingano won by TKO and I think this is what is Julianna Peña was referring to, that Nunes promises a fight but I think it will all come to the UFC officials for their fight to be officials, and Dana White being himself that night was pretty much just logical, and because of this I am excited what may happen to the fight, my pick was Amanda Nunes and I surely didn't bet any because of the obvious large odds on Nunes, but this could be a big upset for Amanda Nunes if the underdog Julianna Peña win this.

Yeah right, I think Darrick Minner excels in wrestling situations. Seen high time he can dominate when he can take the fight to the ground. Of course, Darrick can go for the takedowns but he has to score them. If he can't make them count then he's in big trouble. He will surely have to close the gap. But if he can improve his standing game then he always can throw some fixes that can work out great for him.

I think Minner got power, but let's say Ryan Hall got some technique up his sleeves this should be an interesting fight, I say my pick was Ryan Hall because he surely has some advantage when it comes to wrestling and when the fight would go to the ground that is where the fight could become juicy,

I think that he leads to get the feel of it at first. Maybe throw some gaps, feel each other a little. You will surely maintain a distance with your opponent. I am talking about Ryan Hall by the way. His kicking is great and he will surely utilize his leg kicks. And If didn't even talk about Imanari roll. It will be hard to stand-up against him.
 Placed my bet on Hall, hope will win tomorrow...

Ryan Hall might have some leg kick but there is no power to them, I think this is just for distraction and to pressure his opponent, otherwise, he will always go for a takedown and take the fight on the ground where I think he excels a lot, well I may be wrong because Minner could have the strength he needed even though Hall has an advantage with his wrestling if Minner could outpower him on the ground then it is a win for Darrick Minner, but I still have my hopes on Ryan Hall,

[bbc.reporter]

I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuSeTGEc_o

This certainly is not be true on the higher level, however, on the lower level much of the UFC fighters make more money than boxers. How much are the salaries of the fighters in UFC 269’s preliminary card and how much were the salaries of the boxers in Crawford vs. Porter’s preliminary card?

However, I agree that UFC fighters should be paid more. Dana does not want to do this because he is scaling the business. The UFC is not as big as the sport of boxing. I reckon he might begin increasing fighter salary if the UFC begins to have the ratings similar to the NBA or the NFL.

[cabron]

I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuSeTGEc_o

This certainly is not be true on the higher level, however, on the lower level much of the UFC fighters make more money than boxers. How much are the salaries of the fighters in UFC 269’s preliminary card and how much were the salaries of the boxers in Crawford vs. Porter’s preliminary card?

However, I agree that UFC fighters should be paid more. Dana does not want to do this because he is scaling the business. The UFC is not as big as the sport of boxing. I reckon he might begin increasing fighter salary if the UFC begins to have the ratings similar to the NBA or the NFL.

One thing that UFC fighters are complaining about is that they can't shift to other promotions because of the contract they have to UFC. If possible they can also go to Bellator, ONE Championship and etc. They lose the opportunity to showcase thier talents and fees because of it. Afaik there are fighters who organized to file complain to UFC because of this.

The old UFC fighters still struggle to make money and we could see them on Bellator like the legendary Fedor Emelianenko. If this guy was on boxing, he could have been richer than Connor.

[Betwrong]

How can you recover from that? But Guida did, and won the fight in the second round. Amazing stuff.

I know this is a cliche, but some people are just built different, and are able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. You can have all the technique in the world, e.g riding the shots while they come at you, tucking the chin when striking, but certain people just seem to have more of a threshold than others.
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This is definitely true. I think that in fact the threshold of any UFC fighter is much higher than that of an average martial artist, let alone some street fighting goon, and yet when we watch two great fighters on the ring it might look like one of them has a low threshold, like he's weaker than a thug from your neighborhood. That's an illusion, of course.

[tokeweed]

What about Sean O'Malley? The fighter is a star (at least he thinks he is). His fights are always get a lot of attention. But we dont have a single line  of discussion on last pages. He seems very popular, but yet is not in top10 of bantamweight. Almost all of his UFC fights get a reward of the night. But he is fighting some kind of no-names. He got only 1 good opponent from top (Marlon Vera) and did not stand a round against him. He had some trash talk with Garbrandt, maybe trying to get attention or a future fight against a top opponent.

Now O'Malley fights against a good opponent, but not very popular in UFC. Do you think that he will win? Or UFC are building O'Malley career ?

He’s a hyped prospect.  When he was a given a real opponent in Chito Vera, he lost.  I’d stay away from betting him straight or include him in my parlays at 1.32.  I think it’s better to go for the under 2.5 rounds at 1.73.  Paiva at 3.80 could be worth a small sprinkle too.  You just never know with that guy.

And it’s the last call for a chance to win some free money in jeremypwr’s Multi Master Challenge.  Good luck! 

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[notblox1]

I don't know for sure who will win main event Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier, and my betting pick is on Oliveira, but we know that winner will fight with Justin Gaethje next, according to Dana White.
My main picks for this UFC event: Oliveira win by submission, Amanda Nunes win by KO, and Sean O'Malley win.
You can still make your prediction in Sportsbet Multi Master Challenge, but know that prelims are starting at 11pm UK time.

[TheNineClub]

How can you recover from that? But Guida did, and won the fight in the second round. Amazing stuff.

I know this is a cliche, but some people are just built different, and are able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. You can have all the technique in the world, e.g riding the shots while they come at you, tucking the chin when striking, but certain people just seem to have more of a threshold than others.
~

This is definitely true. I think that in fact the threshold of any UFC fighter is much higher than that of an average martial artist, let alone some street fighting goon, and yet when we watch two great fighters on the ring it might look like one of them has a low threshold, like he's weaker than a thug from your neighborhood. That's an illusion, of course.

I mean, of course, when you get hit, slammed, and choked on a daily basis, you get used to it. I did, and I only did it recreationally. I always tell the story of a friend of mine that had a chance to do a few grappling rounds with Frankie Edgar (and watch him train) and he said that the level of that man's threshold for physical exertion is through the roof. And that's all from years and years of doing it. The same goes for damage absorption.

[Bttzed03]

I don't know for sure who will win main event Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier, and my betting pick is on Oliveira,

The same here. I already placed bet on Charles to win (no methods) but Justin has a pretty good chance as well. It's one of those 50-50 bets and the odds was the main reason I picked the defending champ.

but we know that winner will fight with Justin Gaethje next, according to Dana White.

I find it surprising that he made an early announcement because I usually hear him say we'll see what happens in his interviews.

[eaLiTy]

Bloody hell, we have an upset Julianna Peña defeated Amanda Nunes in the feet and then finished her on the ground. This is the biggest upset in a very long time, luckily i did not make a bet on money line as the fight ending had better odds and i am happy i did that way. I never thought Julianna Peña could rise to the occasion and defeat Amanda Nunes .

Julianna Peña shook up the world  .

It is crazy that the champion Charles Oliveira was the underdog, he won the fight with his trademark choke and there is nothing Dustin Poirier could do about that and he has the record for the most submissions in history.

[bittraffic]

Bloody hell, we have an upset Julianna Peña defeated Amanda Nunes in the feet and then finished her on the ground. This is the biggest upset in a very long time, luckily i did not make a bet on money line as the fight ending had better odds and i am happy i did that way. I never thought Julianna Peña could rise to the occasion and defeat Amanda Nunes .

Julianna Peña shook up the world  .

It is crazy that the champion Charles Oliveira was the underdog, he won the fight with his trademark choke and there is nothing Dustin Poirier could do about that and he has the record for the most submissions in history.

And the underdog won. Yep, the champ is the underdog because many believe Dustin Poirier is about to whack him. Turns out they are rooting for the wrong guy.
Bookmaker counted him out vs Poirier but managed to prove them all wrong. Dustin isn't an all-around fighter who can manage on the ground, the gas tank drained after that and the night becomes the underdog domination. The body shots I guess hit Dustin so hard.