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October 21, 2021, 05:42:27 PM
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Joselyne Edwards at 2.22, I feel like Edwards is better than Clark in the striking dept.  She’s also taller and has the reach advantage.

Mind you, these are just first impressions of underdogs that ‘could win’. 
Joselyne Edwards is one of my most confident picks within the >2.00 odds. I think she'll do a great job here, and has looked very good in her previous fights. Also looking forward to the Mason Jones fight, though I'll hold off realistic predictions, because I might be a little bias in selecting him for the win. Though, I do think he has a great chance here.
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October 21, 2021, 06:44:11 PM
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^ ^  She can have my child...  Cheesy  Looking forward seeing her in the cage.

And the the more I look into Caceres vs Choi, I think I’m starting to like Caceres enough to put a little something something with him as the underdog at 3.35...  That’s good value imho.  The books could be way off.  

She can also have my cute child, I really think that her opponent Joselyne Edwards is pretty much close to her capabilities, both have good striking, and have some wrestling and submission lock, this will surely be an interesting fight but I really like to support Jessica-Rose Clark here,

Alex Caceres VS Choi Seung-Woo I think that Alex Caceres may have some advantage with experience, and I had to say Caceres has a good record than Woo, but I will keep my speculation to myself for now will be looking at this and research more.


Izzy uses it combined with his reach advantage (in his division), but that strategy did not work very well when fighting Blachowicz as Jan could make up the distance very well. If I had to dissect it, I would say that the run and gun technique would work best in lower categories due to their speed and then not taking up so much space in the octagon, but again, Gustafsson dit it perfectly so there's that.

I really think that Jan Blachowicz has far more advantages than Israel Adesanya, we can say that Blachowicz has the build to take on Adesanya, and yes the division pretty much has an advantage for Blachowicz, and pretty much Adesanya is not really ready yet for this division, I really like the way Israel Adesanya fight and I don't have any problem with it, it is all good if you can keep on winning.
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October 22, 2021, 08:46:16 AM
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I really think that Jan Blachowicz has far more advantages than Israel Adesanya, we can say that Blachowicz has the build to take on Adesanya, and yes the division pretty much has an advantage for Blachowicz, and pretty much Adesanya is not really ready yet for this division, I really like the way Israel Adesanya fight and I don't have any problem with it, it is all good if you can keep on winning.

Sure, whatever works for him, whatever get's him the W in the end. Izzy is a really smart fighter that just needs to figure out how to approach the LHW division if he plans on staying there constantly at all. Don't know if he has it in him to go from division to division as he pleases, a different approach is needed. And not taking away anything from Jan, he has matured into one hell of a fighter, can't wait to see what he brings to the table.

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October 22, 2021, 11:21:57 AM
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I really think that Jan Blachowicz has far more advantages than Israel Adesanya, we can say that Blachowicz has the build to take on Adesanya, and yes the division pretty much has an advantage for Blachowicz, and pretty much Adesanya is not really ready yet for this division, I really like the way Israel Adesanya fight and I don't have any problem with it, it is all good if you can keep on winning.

Sure, whatever works for him, whatever get's him the W in the end. Izzy is a really smart fighter that just needs to figure out how to approach the LHW division if he plans on staying there constantly at all. Don't know if he has it in him to go from division to division as he pleases, a different approach is needed. And not taking away anything from Jan, he has matured into one hell of a fighter, can't wait to see what he brings to the table.

I think if he would go with the LightWeight Division, I think he needs to start with the fighter who is lower than Jan Blachowicz or start from scratch, he would need to put up the challenge first and take a feel on the win with other fighters in that division, he can try out his skills with Dominick Reyes, or Glover Teixeira first before another fight with Jan Blachowicz, I really think if he wants another shot at the Lightweight Division I think he needs to start with a lesser badest in the Division.
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October 22, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
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Paulo Costa did not make weight to fit in middleweight division. His weight is around 211 pounds and he cant make it to 185 before the fight. Marvin Vettori told that he is ok with, and both fighters agreed on the weight of 195 pounds. Costa will have to give a percentage of his earnings.

source: https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-paulo-costa-to-forfeit-percentage-of-money-to-marvin-vettori-for-missing-weight/

What is this? Is Costa too lazy to cut? Or he did not train enough and did not have much time to cut weight? Weight difference is a lot. Knowing that fighter cut weight, and day before fight gain tens of pounds back, Costa will be super heavy during this fight. Like lightheavy perhaps, if not more.

P.S. Costa was rather calm to claim that he weight more than needed. Almost not feeling sorry. That is not professional.

Btw, Costa always weight a lot. He should more to other division.

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October 22, 2021, 05:04:55 PM
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I first wanted to bet on Costa to win against Vettori but I can't do that anymore after he missed cutting weight a lot, with his unprofessional behavior and pushing fight to light heavyweight category just few days before a fight.
After watching pre fight press conference and some interviews I am switching my bet for Marvin Vettori to win, and Costa showed that he is not ready for top level mma fighting,
after this and drinking bottle of wine night before his last fight with Adesanya.
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October 22, 2021, 06:07:04 PM
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Also, Marvin Vettori is having a fourth fight in last 10 months, while Costa has fought more than a year ago, and both were stopped by Adesanya.

I think Vettori would win. Costa has a lot of wins by TKO. TKO, and only one KO. His strategy is to pressure his opponent with kicks till he is close to fence, than explode with combos. But, this works only for 1-2 rounds, then Costa runs out of stamina. Vettori likes to put pressure by himself. If he survives first round, he will win. His only weakness is that he keeps his hands low. Btw, Vettori likes to do takedowns, while Costa is black belt in BJJ, but I never seen him using these skills. Vettori will clinch first round, wait for Costa to run out of stamina and TKO.

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October 22, 2021, 06:41:18 PM
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What is this? Is Costa too lazy to cut? Or he did not train enough and did not have much time to cut weight? Weight difference is a lot. Knowing that fighter cut weight, and day before fight gain tens of pounds back, Costa will be super heavy during this fight. Like lightheavy perhaps, if not more.

P.S. Costa was rather calm to claim that he weight more than needed. Almost not feeling sorry. That is not professional.

Btw, Costa always weight a lot. He should more to other division.
Glad that Marvin Vettori is still willing to fight despite the fact that Paulo Costa missed weight by a huge margin and there were rumors that they are planning to fight at 205 pounds which was ridiculous and now they are fighting at a catch weight at 190 pounds, no idea how much Paulo Costa is weighing right now and Dana White should ask him to move to 205 pounds if he is not able prepare for 185 pounds.
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I was quite amazed that instead of trying to cut weight, Costa was smiling and telling that huge weight is ok. That after weigh-ins, every fighter weigh much more, that he was never scared to fight a bigger guy, he did not care about how much his opponent weigh and etc (watch here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC8Avuctzqw).

Specially I like: "One week before the fight, and you are so heavy?" @Marvin. "I am usually heavy at the fight day, do you have problem with that?" @Paulo. This is like asking are you scare of me? If not then fight me in any weight

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October 22, 2021, 07:37:29 PM
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Paulo Costa did not make weight to fit in middleweight division. His weight is around 211 pounds and he cant make it to 185 before the fight. Marvin Vettori told that he is ok with, and both fighters agreed on the weight of 195 pounds. Costa will have to give a percentage of his earnings.

source: https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-paulo-costa-to-forfeit-percentage-of-money-to-marvin-vettori-for-missing-weight/

What is this? Is Costa too lazy to cut? Or he did not train enough and did not have much time to cut weight? Weight difference is a lot. Knowing that fighter cut weight, and day before fight gain tens of pounds back, Costa will be super heavy during this fight. Like lightheavy perhaps, if not more.

P.S. Costa was rather calm to claim that he weight more than needed. Almost not feeling sorry. That is not professional.

Btw, Costa always weight a lot. He should more to other division.

I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


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Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
Grant Dawson (156) vs. Ricky Glenn (155.5)
Jessica-Rose Clark (135.5) vs. Joselyne Edwards (134.5)
Alex Caceres (146) vs. Seungwoo Choi (145.5)
Dwight Grant (170) vs. Francisco Trinaldo (169.5)
Nicolae Negumereanu (204.5) vs. Ike Villanueva (205)
Jun Yong Park (185.5) vs. Gregory Rodrigues (185.5)
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October 22, 2021, 07:48:13 PM
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^ Pretty much Paulo Costa had snapped his brain out after his fight against, Israel Adesanya, That fight had really gotten inside his head, the total humiliation inside the octagon, and the dominance of Izzy over Paulo Costa, pretty much both these men didn't really believe that they have a loss against Adesanya, but Costa is still not himself, but Marvin Vettori totally focuses in the match against Costa,

Paulo Costa vs. Marvin Vettori

My take here is just like I have said and what Israel Adesanya has said, Paulo Costa isn't really stable right now he has changed and Adesanya really get inside his brain, after that fight, Costa didn't believe that Adesanya has dominated him inside the Octagon, and his not really focus with the fight ahead of him, but Marvin Vettori really focuses in this fight and really want to win, I guess Vettori can surely be mixed the striking with his wrestling, and pretty much Vettori has a big amount of cardio, and a good chin that can withstand punches, While Paulo Costa can gas out more easily, I think that Marvin Vettori is a well-rounded fighter here, and that is why I am going with Marvin Vettori.

Jessica-Rose Clark vs. Joselyne Edwards

I really think that Joselyne Edwards has good striking with her kicks and punches, and a little bit of wrestling to get on the pressure on her opponent, I can say Edwards has a slight advantage over Jessica-Rose Clark, but Edwards is the underdog here having 2.40 with odds, while Clark has 1.60 in stake.com, well even though Edwards has some advantage over Clark, I am still going with the lovely Jessica-Rose Clark, this is the risk I will be taking by betting on Clark.
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October 23, 2021, 03:02:39 AM
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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
I read different analysts take about this. It might be a big change for Costa becoming a heavy hitter but what about speed? This means Vettori could easily cut more weight back and use that speed to gain the advantage while Costa will need that lights out one shot strike in a slow pace.
Looking at betting sites Vettori is still the favorite despite all this ruckus about weight management and I am also putting my money on him.
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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
I read different analysts take about this. It might be a big change for Costa becoming a heavy hitter but what about speed? This means Vettori could easily cut more weight back and use that speed to gain the advantage while Costa will need that lights out one shot strike in a slow pace.
Looking at betting sites Vettori is still the favorite despite all this ruckus about weight management and I am also putting my money on him.
This game is for tomorrow right?



Additional information that I know Costa could only last 2 to 3 rounds because his gas tank is just limited and everyone knows that Paulo Costa is just slaking off and he surely can't cut off his weight because he doesn't really do a thing and not readying his fight with Marvin Vettori, I don't know if his underestimating Vettori because Marvin Vettori is just number 5 in the middleweight rankings, or the fight from Israel Adesanya is getting to his head, but yeah if you will watch Israel Adesanya's Youtube Channel you will see his prediction with this match and pretty much that is why the Odds on stake.com is so favorable for Vettori, and right now the odds are 2.60 for Paulo Costa, and 1.52 for Marvin Vettori, and I think it is a good decision to go for Vettori.
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October 23, 2021, 02:07:21 PM
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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
I read different analysts take about this. It might be a big change for Costa becoming a heavy hitter but what about speed? This means Vettori could easily cut more weight back and use that speed to gain the advantage while Costa will need that lights out one shot strike in a slow pace.
Looking at betting sites Vettori is still the favorite despite all this ruckus about weight management and I am also putting my money on him.
This game is for tomorrow right?



Which analyst are you talking about?  Lol.  Weight cutting drains a fighter.  Wtf would Vettori cut weight and allow Costa to stay fresh by not cutting his weight?

Anyway..  Pulled the trigger on Caceres.  I think it’s huge value and the books over adjusted cos Choi has been looking good as of late.  This could be another Caceres vs Hooper moment.  The books over adjusted there too.

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October 23, 2021, 02:32:27 PM
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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
I read different analysts take about this. It might be a big change for Costa becoming a heavy hitter but what about speed? This means Vettori could easily cut more weight back and use that speed to gain the advantage while Costa will need that lights out one shot strike in a slow pace.
Looking at betting sites Vettori is still the favorite despite all this ruckus about weight management and I am also putting my money on him.
This game is for tomorrow right?



Additional information that I know Costa could only last 2 to 3 rounds because his gas tank is just limited and everyone knows that Paulo Costa is just slaking off and he surely can't cut off his weight because he doesn't really do a thing and not readying his fight with Marvin Vettori, I don't know if his underestimating Vettori because Marvin Vettori is just number 5 in the middleweight rankings, or the fight from Israel Adesanya is getting to his head, but yeah if you will watch Israel Adesanya's Youtube Channel you will see his prediction with this match and pretty much that is why the Odds on stake.com is so favorable for Vettori, and right now the odds are 2.60 for Paulo Costa, and 1.52 for Marvin Vettori, and I think it is a good decision to go for Vettori.

signing 185pounds and then after just a week move-up, the heck did costa eat the whole time and then his opponent had to suffer all these diets lol what a bully.

it's tempting to root for him though i can see big winning after all he has the knockout power. but he was out for a very long time after a defeat against adesanya, losing for the first time is hard to overcome. maybe the reason he has not fulfilled his obligation for the weight class. still depress and give excuse about covid









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October 23, 2021, 03:51:36 PM
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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
Grant Dawson (156) vs. Ricky Glenn (155.5)
Jessica-Rose Clark (135.5) vs. Joselyne Edwards (134.5)
Alex Caceres (146) vs. Seungwoo Choi (145.5)
Dwight Grant (170) vs. Francisco Trinaldo (169.5)
Nicolae Negumereanu (204.5) vs. Ike Villanueva (205)
Jun Yong Park (185.5) vs. Gregory Rodrigues (185.5)
Mason Jones (156) vs. David Onama (153.5)
Maria Oliveira (115) vs. Tabatha Ricci (115)
Jamie Pickett (184.5) vs. Laureano Staropoli (185.5)
Jai Herbert (155) vs. Khama Worthy (155)
Daniel da Silva (125) vs. Jeff Molina (125)
Randa Markos (115) vs. Livinha Souza (115)
Zviad Lazishvili (135) vs. Jonathan Martinez (135)
I'm worried about Costa, I'm not sure his heart is in it anymore, I mean coming in that heavy is a bit of a joke, and I've got to give my respect to Vettori for allowing the fight to continue, and if Vettori can win against a over weight Costa it really is a statement to the rest of the division, unless what I fear is true, and that Costa has simply become uninterested after the Izzy fight.

Didn't Costa make up an excuse like he was drinking wine the night before? I highly doubt someone with the body he has, whether you want to excuse him of steroid abuse or not, would be so ill disciplined, because clearly he puts in a lot of work.

I've always been favouring Costa for a knockout tonight, but this makes me reconsider whether he's actually interested, and determined to win.
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signing 185pounds and then after just a week move-up, the heck did costa eat the whole time and then his opponent had to suffer all these diets lol what a bully.

LOL, he drinks Cheesy

I think it was Marvins mistake to accept fighting in a greater weight. If I were Marvin, I would insist on Paulo Costa cutting to 185 or do maximum he could. And then beat drained opponent. But now he is in danger of eating more heavy strike.

If a fighter cant make weight - move up. What is even the point of cutting, if in octagon you are always heavy and belong to a next division. Isnt it the same as being 18 y.o and competing against 12 y.o ? I think that weigh cutting is similar to cheating.

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I heard about Costa walking around saying that he was weighing over 200 lbs.  But I didn’t think much about it and thought he was prolly just fooling around.  Lol.  Turned out to be true.  -_-  

And I think it changes everything now and the match could favor Costa with him being able to have a higher chance of knocking Vettori out early.  The under 4.5 went from 1.75 to 1.60...  That Costa win at R3 prop lined at 16 looks good.  That’s prolly worth a sprinkle.


UFC Vegas FN 196:  Weigh In Results

Paulo Costa (204.5) vs. Marvin Vettori (204)
I read different analysts take about this. It might be a big change for Costa becoming a heavy hitter but what about speed? This means Vettori could easily cut more weight back and use that speed to gain the advantage while Costa will need that lights out one shot strike in a slow pace.
Looking at betting sites Vettori is still the favorite despite all this ruckus about weight management and I am also putting my money on him.
This game is for tomorrow right?



Additional information that I know Costa could only last 2 to 3 rounds because his gas tank is just limited and everyone knows that Paulo Costa is just slaking off and he surely can't cut off his weight because he doesn't really do a thing and not readying his fight with Marvin Vettori, I don't know if his underestimating Vettori because Marvin Vettori is just number 5 in the middleweight rankings, or the fight from Israel Adesanya is getting to his head, but yeah if you will watch Israel Adesanya's Youtube Channel you will see his prediction with this match and pretty much that is why the Odds on stake.com is so favorable for Vettori, and right now the odds are 2.60 for Paulo Costa, and 1.52 for Marvin Vettori, and I think it is a good decision to go for Vettori.

signing 185pounds and then after just a week move-up, the heck did costa eat the whole time and then his opponent had to suffer all these diets lol what a bully.

it's tempting to root for him though i can see big winning after all he has the knockout power. but he was out for a very long time after a defeat against adesanya, losing for the first time is hard to overcome. maybe the reason he has not fulfilled his obligation for the weight class. still depress and give excuse about covid


He must have consumed a whole pig all by himself to gain so much in just 1 week, I feel Marvin Vettori doing all that diet and cutting the pounds is really something and then he just accepts in the weight class that Costa wants, is just dedication, but I guess deep inside he is surely frustrated about it, but he just gotta what he needs to do,

Well, It is really tempting to root for Costa, because of that big increase in Vettori's odds, and looking at Costa's ranking is still 2 and yes that striking power to one punch an opponent, might still be there, but I will surely give credits to Vettori for giving an effort to the fight, but I guess I will be staying away with the betting for now.
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Didn't Costa make up an excuse like he was drinking wine the night before? I highly doubt someone with the body he has, whether you want to excuse him of steroid abuse or not, would be so ill disciplined, because clearly he puts in a lot of work.
Yes i believe Paulo Costa came with the excuse when he lost against Israel Adesanya. There are some fighters who does not accept defeat and will always try to find excuses so that they can feel good, another prime example is Deontay Wilder. They need to understand their weakness and rectify them to improve and as long a they are not doing that, we should not expect any changes.

I've always been favouring Costa for a knockout tonight, but this makes me reconsider whether he's actually interested, and determined to win.
A knockout is always possible, may be Paulo Costa wanted to trick Marvin Vettori into thinking that he is not prepared and his plan all along was to knockout and have a good performance and call out Adesanya for the rematch  Cheesy.


My picks are Grant Dawson, Junyong Park, Marvin Vettori
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