🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TheNineClub]

So if that is not an option and is regulated by the contract between the UFC and the fighter, how to punish Yan then? Him losing the title but Aljo not winning it? Maybe?

Yeah, that's the angle I was going for. Punish Yan for the obvious illegal strike, probably by stripping him of the belt i.e vacating it, but don't give it to Aljo. Then setup a rematch between the two for the belt again. I think that's the fairest, since Aljo didn't win that belt, and Yan dealt a fight ending illegal blow.

This approach will likely stop fighters faking or you know not faking, but playing up to the extent of the injury to get the win. We've seen it a few times with eye pokes, the fighter basically asks if the fight finishes will it still count, and the referee usually tells them you can't ask that. So, while I'm definitely not accusing Aljo of that, I believe there has been other instances of this, and I think all fights should probably go down to a no contest. I guess, the flipside is fighters could potentially try an illegal blow if they're losing so bad to get the fight as a no contest rather than a loss. Difficult situation really with that, but absolutely a belt shouldn't be won via a disqualification it just feels wrong.

It's the fairest to us, but we can't really know the fine print in the championship contracts. Maybe there are some checks in place to make that impossible to happen due to whatever reasons. Anyway, I doubt things will change because this thing will not happen all that much and they won't bother to change anything. Not the most flexible company out there.

[tokeweed]

No fights until the Holiday season but the news was burning hot with UFC fighters and right now Jorge Masvidal release in his youtube video an announcement that he is out of the injury list because after that Leon Edwards UFC 269 withdrawal from the said fight he is calling out names that are linked to him and calling out "actress that works at the Disney Channel" and that is Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, and lastly in his video he has called out Leon Edwards to sign another contract fighting him,

While Francis Ngannou was really impressed by Jake Paul's knockout over Tyron Woodley he was surprised by the Youtuber that knocks out Woodley that Jake Paul was really taking this thing seriously and that Jake Paul has surely Proven it.

And that is why right now Jake Paul is calling Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and Conor McGregor to fight him and now he is mocking McGregor for the weight over 190 lbs, Jake Paul Tweet  "Why does it look like Conor McGregor ate Conor McGregor, he's so thick now."

I don't know about you guys, I know many really hated Jake Paul and want someone to beat the crap out of him, but I agree with Ngannou that Jake Paul has proven something that he really can.

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/mma/88670562?category=futures

[electronicash]

though it's too much hype for Chimaev', he really is skillful one that can be compared to Khabib.

It's the fairest to us, but we can't really know the fine print in the championship contracts. Maybe there are some checks in place to make that impossible to happen due to whatever reasons. Anyway, I doubt things will change because this thing will not happen all that much and they won't bother to change anything. Not the most flexible company out there.

it feels wrong to really give the belt to Aljo considering how bad the acting is. but because the disqualification of yan makes him the winner, it will be considered a win which means the belt at stake will be given to him. he knows to himself he didn't win that belt the right way. it deserves a rematch.

[YuginKadoya]

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Yep! definitely lies, are spouting on Masdival's mouth, we can say that he is eluding every fight as much as possible as he could, and in my opinion that fast Knee takedown over Ben Askren was just a lucky shot and a fluke, and Ben Askren is not that great of a fighter he just got 1 win on UFC and that's it, and with his fight on Nate Diaz, I actually think it is not an impressive fight aswell, in my opinion, Nate Diaz should have retired by now, and I really don't like Jorge Masvidal and that lost on Kamaru Usman really gets into him, and making excuses to escape his fights,

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

Although this is just speculation, it is OK if Khamzat Chimaev will truly wait, and the end of this year is a great opportunity aswell as long as he becomes champion, right now the only fighters that are serious in saying that they want to fight Khamzat Chimaev right now are Neil Magny and Belal Muhammad, at least they are seriously accepting Khamzat Chimaev, not like Jorge Masvidal that saying all kinds of things that he might fight Khamzat but apparently Khamzat Chimaev is below the ranking, Masvidal is just scared to lose on a rank 11 fighter, Neil Magny is number 8 right now a good ranking for Khamzat for the title match, but Belal Muhammad is rank 5 a better ranking for Khamzat to instantly bounce higher ranking, but Neil Magny is the guy that really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev now, so let's just wait and see.

[eaLiTy]

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Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

One thing is certain every time Jorge Masvidal is injured his injuries are undisclosed, but he cannot pull out of fights without convincing the UFC doctors about the status of his injury. Now Jake Paul started calling him out, he is out of the injury list and lets see whether Dana White will allow him to fight Jake Paul.

When it comes to Khamzat Chimaev becoming the champion this year, if Dana White sees this odds he might fast track his title fight, as he said Khamzat Chimaev is 4 fights away from a title fight last time when media asked about his future plans of Khamzat Chimaev .

[TheNineClub]

No fights until the Holiday season but the news was burning hot with UFC fighters and right now Jorge Masvidal release in his youtube video an announcement that he is out of the injury list because after that Leon Edwards UFC 269 withdrawal from the said fight he is calling out names that are linked to him and calling out "actress that works at the Disney Channel" and that is Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, and lastly in his video he has called out Leon Edwards to sign another contract fighting him,

While Francis Ngannou was really impressed by Jake Paul's knockout over Tyron Woodley he was surprised by the Youtuber that knocks out Woodley that Jake Paul was really taking this thing seriously and that Jake Paul has surely Proven it.

And that is why right now Jake Paul is calling Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and Conor McGregor to fight him and now he is mocking McGregor for the weight over 190 lbs, Jake Paul Tweet  "Why does it look like Conor McGregor ate Conor McGregor, he's so thick now."

I don't know about you guys, I know many really hated Jake Paul and want someone to beat the crap out of him, but I agree with Ngannou that Jake Paul has proven something that he really can.

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/mma/88670562?category=futures

Eh, I can't blame him for playing the injury card. He got propped up really high and there were some expectations that have yet to be met, money-wise (from his point of view). So he's playing that card because he knows his stock will plummet if he looses his nex fight so he wants to make damn sure it pays well. As for Paul, I am shocked he ain't calling Logan Paul out, he already called out everybody else.

[Welsh]

December,  in particular Christmas is one of my favourite times of the year, however its an absolute nightmare I have to wait so long without watching MMA. You just get so used to watching is every weekend, and occasionally missing a weekend, that I kind of feel lost now.

Luckily, the hype of some of the fights coming up has still got me in good spirits. Particularly looking forward to the Izzy fight. I've said it before, but Whittaker has probably the best chance in the division to hurt, and beat Izzy. At least right now, obviously Alex Pereira being in the UFC now might change things up a little, but I think his lack of grappling might be a problem. Izzy is at least a little more accustomed to it, and might be able to make the changes necessary to put Alex out of his comfort zone.

[YuginKadoya]

Eh, I can't blame him for playing the injury card. He got propped up really high and there were some expectations that have yet to be met, money-wise (from his point of view). So he's playing that card because he knows his stock will plummet if he looses his nex fight so he wants to make damn sure it pays well. As for Paul, I am shocked he ain't calling Logan Paul out, he already called out everybody else.

But it is not a great thing to do many fighters would want that position of his he should have given that to others that are willing to fight anyone especially Khamzat Chimaev, his stock will plummet down whether he likes it or not to fight if he doesn't want to fight fans will get sour of him and it is a bad thing for his career I think many have known about what he is doing and the UFC will surely force a fight for him, and Dana White will surely get doctors that he trust for another injury pop-up,

I don't know if Dana White would agree to that, Jake Paul is beating up retired UFC fighters but I don't know about active fighters if Dana White would allow that, because I think Dana White doesn't really like Jake Paul.

December,  in particular Christmas is one of my favourite times of the year, however its an absolute nightmare I have to wait so long without watching MMA. You just get so used to watching is every weekend, and occasionally missing a weekend, that I kind of feel lost now.

Luckily, the hype of some of the fights coming up has still got me in good spirits. Particularly looking forward to the Izzy fight. I've said it before, but Whittaker has probably the best chance in the division to hurt, and beat Izzy. At least right now, obviously Alex Pereira being in the UFC now might change things up a little, but I think his lack of grappling might be a problem. Izzy is at least a little more accustomed to it, and might be able to make the changes necessary to put Alex out of his comfort zone.

The same feeling, UFC fighting is my medicine and without it, I tend to find that relieves on something else by watching another MMA fight or boxing if there is an available one, but I just can't have a full feeling if there is not an upcoming fight that I would research and make analysis on who's going to win,

And what fights I am waiting for next year will be a great year, and just like you I would love to see an Israel Adesanya fight, Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane, a Khamzat Chimaev fight is possible this January, well I think if a UFC fighter would know how much they can get in fighting Jake Paul than to fight inside the octagon I think they will surely go and grab that Jake Paul match even if they lose to Jake Paul they can still get a large sum of money.

[tokeweed]

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Yep! definitely lies, are spouting on Masdival's mouth, we can say that he is eluding every fight as much as possible as he could, and in my opinion that fast Knee takedown over Ben Askren was just a lucky shot and a fluke, and Ben Askren is not that great of a fighter he just got 1 win on UFC and that's it, and with his fight on Nate Diaz, I actually think it is not an impressive fight aswell, in my opinion, Nate Diaz should have retired by now, and I really don't like Jorge Masvidal and that lost on Kamaru Usman really gets into him, and making excuses to escape his fights,

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

Although this is just speculation, it is OK if Khamzat Chimaev will truly wait, and the end of this year is a great opportunity aswell as long as he becomes champion, right now the only fighters that are serious in saying that they want to fight Khamzat Chimaev right now are Neil Magny and Belal Muhammad, at least they are seriously accepting Khamzat Chimaev, not like Jorge Masvidal that saying all kinds of things that he might fight Khamzat but apparently Khamzat Chimaev is below the ranking, Masvidal is just scared to lose on a rank 11 fighter, Neil Magny is number 8 right now a good ranking for Khamzat for the title match, but Belal Muhammad is rank 5 a better ranking for Khamzat to instantly bounce higher ranking, but Neil Magny is the guy that really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev now, so let's just wait and see.

Not Neil Magny.  He talked for a bit then gone quiet when Chimaev started asking for the match up.  I think the most serious guys who really wants to fight him are Belal Muhammad and Vicente Luque.

Anyway I’ve been going thru the betting market for future UFC champion again.  Lol.  It’s fun.  And it looks like 205 is wide open if I really think about it...  The champ is over 40 years old and top propsects that have a chance to be champ are Jiri Prochazka, Aleksandar Rakic and Magomed Ankalaev...  And with those three guys, I think Ankalaev is the best.  He’s lined at 11.00 to be champ before 2022 ends.  I hope Stake really opens these markets next year. 

[YuginKadoya]

Not Neil Magny.  He talked for a bit then gone quiet when Chimaev started asking for the match up.  I think the most serious guys who really wants to fight him are Belal Muhammad and Vicente Luque.

Anyway I’ve been going thru the betting market for future UFC champion again.  Lol.  It’s fun.  And it looks like 205 is wide open if I really think about it...  The champ is over 40 years old and top propsects that have a chance to be champ are Jiri Prochazka, Aleksandar Rakic and Magomed Ankalaev...  And with those three guys, I think Ankalaev is the best.  He’s lined at 11.00 to be champ before 2022 ends.  I hope Stake really opens these markets next year. 

Maybe he's just busy, and it's been just a couple of days, and it is the holiday season people tend to just lump up and relax, and Neil Magny have said it, that he really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev, but if not Neil Magny that is rank 8 then Belal Muhammad at Rank 5 is way even better, and with Vicente Luque, I haven't heard he that he wants to fight Khamzat but maybe I wasn't looking enough, but if a Vicente Luque fight would go through then Rank 4 will be even much better ranking.

Well I agree that Magomed Ankalaev is the best among those fighters but I would put Jiri Prochazka on the 2nd spot because I sure love his uniqueness when fighting, but Magomed Ankalaev is a beast, but maybe stake will surely open that market next year and we are in the midst of a holiday season so let's just wait.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah but that’s not the point, the line on Ankalaev at 11.00 is good value.  And that line already went down.  I think it was double that around 21.00 - 23.00 before the sharps came in.  

And on Magny, he was talking months before.  I think even before Chimaev’s last match, I’m not sure.  And if ever that match up happens, man...  Magny is gonna get rag dolled by the Russian.  There should be a market for guessing how many Russian champs will there be by the end of 2022.  Lol.  I def think there will be at least two, Yan and Makhachev.

Edit:  Ankalaev...  Three! 

[GamblersArea]

I think Calvin Kattar is looking to redeem himself against his main event before where he was outclased even with his endurance and now he must make some adjustments to his fighting. Therefore I think I will place bets on him.

He has had a long layoff. He hasn't fought since the Max fight and rightly so. You need a real recovery period after that war. Giga on the other hand has had 2 DOMINANT performances this year. We still need to see how Kattar does after that fight. The mental side could be taking a toll on him. Max not only broke his face but multiple UFC records that night.

[Betwrong]

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Nooo, Claudia why you gone and do me like that...It's not a secret I am a huge Gadelha fan But in all seriousness, good for her. Should have been earlier, but I get it, there wasn't much money made through her career. But that's always the case with pioneers in one way or another. Go get it, Queen, you did well for the sport.

It depends on how you define "much". According to some credible sources the girl has made half a million US dollars during her fighting career:

Gadelha has estimated career earnings of  $470,000 according to Tapology. She has an estimated net worth of $500,000 according to Know Net Worth.

Not many people can achieve that by the age of 33. And it's not like her mom and dad gave it to her, as it often happens with young rich people. She has earned it by hard work and endurance. I admire her.

[YuginKadoya]

^  Yeah but that’s not the point, the line on Ankalaev at 11.00 is good value.  And that line already went down.  I think it was double that around 21.00 - 23.00 before the sharps came in.  

I don't really know why he went down but maybe because Paulo Costa buts in the Light Heavyweight division, and yes a Glover Teixeira fighting a young Magomed Ankalaev could be a good match, but I am just saying that I like Jiri Prochazka too, but not as much as Magomed Ankalaev, and now that Paulo Costa is in the division, I really never see him as a threat for these guys,

And on Magny, he was talking months before.  I think even before Chimaev’s last match, I’m not sure.  And if ever that match up happens, man...  Magny is gonna get rag dolled by the Russian.  There should be a market for guessing how many Russian champs will there be by the end of 2022.  Lol.  I def think there will be at least two, Yan and Makhachev.

Edit:  Ankalaev...  Three!  

If you would look at each Division each division has a Russian fighter in it,

Flyweight Division - Tagir Ulanbekov, Askar Askarov, And the new Flyweight Khabib, that I forgot the name.

Lightweight Division - Islam Makhachev,

Welterweight Division - Belal Muhammad, Khamzat Chimaev, and Muslim Salikhov

Light Heavyweight Division - Magomed Ankalaev, and Nikita Krylov

Heavyweight Division - Shamil Abdurakhimov and Sergei Pavlovich

Many are from the Dagestan and have the same technique as the eagle Khabib Nurmagomenodov.

[TheNineClub]

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Nooo, Claudia why you gone and do me like that...It's not a secret I am a huge Gadelha fan But in all seriousness, good for her. Should have been earlier, but I get it, there wasn't much money made through her career. But that's always the case with pioneers in one way or another. Go get it, Queen, you did well for the sport.

It depends on how you define "much". According to some credible sources the girl has made half a million US dollars during her fighting career:

Gadelha has estimated career earnings of  $470,000 according to Tapology. She has an estimated net worth of $500,000 according to Know Net Worth.

Not many people can achieve that by the age of 33. And it's not like her mom and dad gave it to her, as it often happens with young rich people. She has earned it by hard work and endurance. I admire her.

Half a mill ain't that much, at least not for her to retire and not worry about the future. And when you switch careers in your thirties, after you have been doing it for more or less 15 years, that half a mil goes by fast. Not saying she hasn't earned anything, just saying it isn't something you can retire on by its own.

[Welsh]

Half a mill ain't that much, at least not for her to retire and not worry about the future. And when you switch careers in your thirties, after you have been doing it for more or less 15 years, that half a mil goes by fast. Not saying she hasn't earned anything, just saying it isn't something you can retire on by its own.

Entirely, depends on your lifestyle, and how much you own at the time of earning that half a million. If you already have an house, and you've paid most or all of it off then half a million is more than enough to retire on at 30. Of course, you won't be living your life like a king, but for most people that would be enough if they continued with their current life style.

Despite UFC fighters not getting as much as boxers, and is often complained about they still get paid a lot of money by normal people's standards, and the fighters themselves despite complaining understand how much the bonuses are, and you'll often see them stating how life changing it has been since winning one.

[TheNineClub]

Half a mill ain't that much, at least not for her to retire and not worry about the future. And when you switch careers in your thirties, after you have been doing it for more or less 15 years, that half a mil goes by fast. Not saying she hasn't earned anything, just saying it isn't something you can retire on by its own.

Entirely, depends on your lifestyle, and how much you own at the time of earning that half a million. If you already have an house, and you've paid most or all of it off then half a million is more than enough to retire on at 30. Of course, you won't be living your life like a king, but for most people that would be enough if they continued with their current life style.

Despite UFC fighters not getting as much as boxers, and is often complained about they still get paid a lot of money by normal people's standards, and the fighters themselves despite complaining understand how much the bonuses are, and you'll often see them stating how life changing it has been since winning one.

Sure, but you have to take into consideration the toll it takes on their bodies and their future health, and yes, not everyone will suffer from it, but the ones that do, their medical bills will eat up all of their earnings if they live in the US. Obviously, there is always an option of moving to a cheaper country, but now we are introducing variables and that's beside the point. The approximation of her earnings is probably the sum of her released earnings in her MMA career, but those earnings are before you calculate in tax, camp expenses, management and trainer fees, living costs in the US... Some training facilities do have some deals with fighters where they might offer reduced living costs and some fighters do have sponsors (albeit a lot less since the Rebook deal was implemented, and that's why there was much uproar for it), but we do not know what does deals were and how much it made an overall difference. But, if the half a mil estimate is based on the sum of her earnings, then I would be hard-pressed to believe she is coming out with a clean half a mil just based on the factors I listed earlier. So no, I stand by the notion that it's not all that much in the end.

And yes, I do agree that your lifestyle will have an effect on that, but we are taking the middle of the road here as an example, we are not looking into an option of her moving to a desolate part of Brazil and living in a small hut.

(This is just my opinion, not an argument, I fully respect your opinions)

[TopTort777]

I see you are comparing UFC and boxing earnings. Well, let me throw my two cents also.

First of all, boxing is more older sports than UFC, its fan base and popularity is much greater. Boxing matches manages to gain more attention, thus more sponsor money are involved.

Second, top UFC fighter earns a lot also, while average boxer gets his several thousands, same as an UFC fighter. However, I barely heard that boxers get 50k as a bonus for performance of the night or OK of the night.

Third, UFC fighters fight more often, while top boxers usually have 0-2 fights per year.

Fourth, I've noticed, that top UFC fighters usually get more sponsor contract than boxers.

Fifth, when a boxer retires, he can become a boxing trainer also (which they rarely do). But when a UFC fighter retires, he can become a boxing/wrestling/bjj/cardio/nutrition specialist

In addition, (I dont know how this is done is boxing), UFC covers all fighters treatment.

So being UFC aint that bad.

[Hydrogen]

those earnings are before you calculate in tax, camp expenses, management and trainer fees, living costs in the US...

Its been said UFC fighters can receive free training and free meals at the UFC Performance Institute in Las Vegas. In addition they're supposed to receive royalties for all of their signature items in the UFC store that are sold. Those are probably the two biggest changes in recent times that fly beneath the radar.

I would seriously be curious to know how much bellator MMA fighters profit from dude wipes sponsorships. There have been claims of 5 or 6 figure payouts but somehow I don't think dude wipes has the cash to throw six figures at MMA fighters in bellator.

Interestingly enough, Rory MacDonald was publicized as receiving a 6 figure sponsorship payout from dashcoin when he competed at bellator. That claim might have been legit. In that there could be some truth to claims of large sponsorship payouts outside the UFC if only on a limited basis.

[bittraffic]

I see you are comparing UFC and boxing earnings. Well, let me throw my two cents also.

First of all, boxing is more older sports than UFC, its fan base and popularity is much greater. Boxing matches manages to gain more attention, thus more sponsor money are involved.

Second, top UFC fighter earns a lot also, while average boxer gets his several thousands, same as an UFC fighter. However, I barely heard that boxers get 50k as a bonus for performance of the night or OK of the night.

Third, UFC fighters fight more often, while top boxers usually have 0-2 fights per year.

Fourth, I've noticed, that top UFC fighters usually get more sponsor contract than boxers.

Fifth, when a boxer retires, he can become a boxing trainer also (which they rarely do). But when a UFC fighter retires, he can become a boxing/wrestling/bjj/cardio/nutrition specialist

In addition, (I dont know how this is done is boxing), UFC covers all fighters treatment.

So being UFC aint that bad.

That's quite encouraging to be a UFC fighter. If one MMA fighter reading this, you'd be opening such possibilities.  But I agree, we've seen many MMAs as celebrities who I've seen on movies like Ateam or Expendables and some that I have not seen like thier docus on Netflix.  

I didn't know UFC will be the one that will spend on the health care of thier fighters. No wonder Police Officer Chris Daukaus quits his job and concentrate more on MMA.