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[TopTort777]

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I don't expect for a rematch to happen. Kyle Daukaus is not even in top of middleweight. Kevin Holland is on top14. Loosing do Daukaus will move Holland out from the top. While a victory wont give him anything. Both fighters are not very significant stars in UFC to organize a rematch. I doubt that there are such fans that impatiently waiting for their rematch.

They're not names and Daekaus isn't in the top rank but none of that matters now because their first fight already took place. With how it ended, a rematch is bound to happen and the only question is when. It could be as an undercard on one of those UFC fight nights.

Are you interested to find out who is better, Holland or Daukaus ? Really? That much interested, that you would buy UFC pass ? People are more familiar with Chris Daukaus from heavyweight division.

People are more interested to see a rematch between two fighters that already showed a good fight or the fight was really close. But what we saw October 2 - 3 minutes of fight and a head clash.

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[Bttzed03]

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I don't expect for a rematch to happen. Kyle Daukaus is not even in top of middleweight. Kevin Holland is on top14. Loosing do Daukaus will move Holland out from the top. While a victory wont give him anything. Both fighters are not very significant stars in UFC to organize a rematch. I doubt that there are such fans that impatiently waiting for their rematch.

They're not names and Daekaus isn't in the top rank but none of that matters now because their first fight already took place. With how it ended, a rematch is bound to happen and the only question is when. It could be as an undercard on one of those UFC fight nights.

Are you interested to find out who is better, Holland or Daukaus ? Really? That much interested, that you would buy UFC pass ? People are more familiar with Chris Daukaus from heavyweight division.

People are more interested to see a rematch between two fighters that already showed a good fight or the fight was really close. But what we saw October 2 - 3 minutes of fight and a head clash.

I'm not really that interested that I want to pay for it but I still want it to be decided/settled (and place a bet if odds are good enough for me). Who are we to assume what other people really think? For all we know, there could be hundreds/thousands others that would buy a UFC pass for the next event that they are in. Daukus also said he wanted an immediate rematch.

[TheNineClub]

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I don't expect for a rematch to happen. Kyle Daukaus is not even in top of middleweight. Kevin Holland is on top14. Loosing do Daukaus will move Holland out from the top. While a victory wont give him anything. Both fighters are not very significant stars in UFC to organize a rematch. I doubt that there are such fans that impatiently waiting for their rematch.

They're not names and Daekaus isn't in the top rank but none of that matters now because their first fight already took place. With how it ended, a rematch is bound to happen and the only question is when. It could be as an undercard on one of those UFC fight nights.

Are you interested to find out who is better, Holland or Daukaus ? Really? That much interested, that you would buy UFC pass ? People are more familiar with Chris Daukaus from heavyweight division.

People are more interested to see a rematch between two fighters that already showed a good fight or the fight was really close. But what we saw October 2 - 3 minutes of fight and a head clash.

I'm not really that interested that I want to pay for it but I still want it to be decided/settled (and place a bet if odds are good enough for me). Who are we to assume what other people really think? For all we know, there could be hundreds/thousands others that would buy a UFC pass for the next event that they are in. Daukus also said he wanted an immediate rematch.

When we talk about buying a UFC pass, I don't think we need to be looking at individual names and think they are the ones that are attracting the majority of subscriptions. I think it's more the case of fans buying passes for their general viewing pleasure of the whole card. Even though the names on the card are not drawing viewers by themselves, the card as a whole, as a standalone product of a couple of hours of viewing is what's selling those passes.

[TopTort777]

What you both are saying is correct, but I think that in few months people will forget that there is an unsettled business between Daukaus and Holland. As well as not many UFC psses will be bought this weekend.
I will add these two in my radar, just to know that their fight is not just another lane in the card.

Btw, what do you think about this weekend event? Any fighters I should pay attention to? I am not much familiar with them. To me this weeks and next week event are sort of a respite before Costa vs Vettori.

[tokeweed]

UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Rodriguez



Date: OCTOBER 9 , 2021
Main Card: SAT, OCT 9 / 11:00 PM EEST
Prelims: SAT, OCT 9 / 8:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Women’s Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern vs. Marina Rodriguez            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Jared Gooden            
Flyweight: Tim Elliott vs. Matheus Nicolau            
Women's Flyweight: Sabina Mazo vs. Mariya Agapova            
Middleweight: Phil Hawes vs. Deron Winn   
         
Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Chris Gutiérrez vs. Felipe Colares            
Middleweight: Jamie Pickett vs. Laureano Staropoli            
Heavyweight: Alexandr Romanov vs. Jared Vanderaa            
Featherweight: Charles Rosa vs. Damon Jackson            
Women's Strawweight: Lupita Godinez vs. Sam Hughes            
Lightweight: Steve Garcia vs. Charlie Ontiveros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Dern_vs._Rodriguez

Looking at these matches..  At first glance I feel like the underdogs have no value and the favorites are not really parlayable.  Lol. There could be some good spots there at the over/under that’s parlayable.  The main event is kinda weird tho.  Dern is the favorite? I think Rodriguez is way better on the feet and has the TD defense good enough to defend Dern’s wrestling.

[minairia3]

What you both are saying is correct, but I think that in few months people will forget that there is an unsettled business between Daukaus and Holland. As well as not many UFC psses will be bought this weekend.
I will add these two in my radar, just to know that their fight is not just another lane in the card.

There will always be some die-hard UFC fan who will buy the UFC pass in no time.  And people won't buy the pass to view every single game right? There is some high voltage game that attracts the viewership anyways, but it's handy to have the pass in your possession. You get those extra benefits for possessing the Ufc pass and so on.

[notblox1]

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.

News for Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus rematch could happen very soon for UFC event on November 13!

[jeremypwr]

Maybe this will get everyone more excited for this weekend's fights

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364124.0

[Welsh]

I would say the UFC have purposely not put many big names on the card this weekend due to the Fury card, but that can't be the case since they had a banger of an event when Joshua was fighting who arguably has the bigger pull of casual fans of boxing.

While Holland was all class on the incident, Daukaus acting like an ass in his post-fight interview It shouldn't have been ruled a no-contest he says. I don't know if he still feels that way after watching the replay and seeing how Holland landed on the ground face-first. How he still managed to stay conscious from that was impressive on its own.

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I can't remember seeing the post match interview, so must have went for a toilet break or something. I'll have to look it up. I know he was clearly disappointed with the result, he looked good on the night leading up to it, but it was absolutely the right decision from the ref.  I know that Holland was saying just before the result to Daukaus that they should make the rematch soon, I believe he said even next week. Obviously, that hasn't happened, and wouldn't happen due to concussion rules, however I expect we'll see it somewhat soon.

[TopTort777]

What you both are saying is correct, but I think that in few months people will forget that there is an unsettled business between Daukaus and Holland. As well as not many UFC psses will be bought this weekend.
I will add these two in my radar, just to know that their fight is not just another lane in the card.

There will always be some die-hard UFC fan who will buy the UFC pass in no time.  And people won't buy the pass to view every single game right? There is some high voltage game that attracts the viewership anyways, but it's handy to have the pass in your possession. You get those extra benefits for possessing the Ufc pass and so on.

You are right, people wont buy UFC pass just to watch one fight. But "Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus" wont be main event of the evening. They wont be on a poster, saying "rematch".

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.

Thanks. I think I'm gonna skip that event, but watch a replay of Romanov vs Vanderaa. I've googled Romanov - quite a donut His record is nice, but most of his wins were in first rounds by submission and TKO, meaning all of his opponents were not on a high level. I would only count his UFC record 3-0. Aint that scary already.

[YuginKadoya]

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.

News for Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus rematch could happen very soon for UFC event on November 13!

I also feel the same maybe I would just watch the main Event, Mackenzie Dern VS Marina Rodriguez fight I am really interested in who's the most fearsome cat, and also even though Dern lost to Amanda Ribas and Rodriguez got a TKO win on Ribas doesn't mean that Rodriguez could win this, Mackenzie Dern performance with Nina Nunes goes to show how she has evolved and change, but I think this is still a close fight but Marina Rodriguez for me still has the edge in my opinion but may look even further on this,

It is interesting to see that Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus will surely have a rematch and I think really did a great job in giving a decision to the matter, and will surely love to see that match again, maybe I would now bet for Holland this time.

[TheNineClub]

UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Rodriguez



Date: OCTOBER 9 , 2021
Main Card: SAT, OCT 9 / 11:00 PM EEST
Prelims: SAT, OCT 9 / 8:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Women’s Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern vs. Marina Rodriguez            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Jared Gooden            
Flyweight: Tim Elliott vs. Matheus Nicolau            
Women's Flyweight: Sabina Mazo vs. Mariya Agapova            
Middleweight: Phil Hawes vs. Deron Winn   
         
Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Chris Gutiérrez vs. Felipe Colares            
Middleweight: Jamie Pickett vs. Laureano Staropoli            
Heavyweight: Alexandr Romanov vs. Jared Vanderaa            
Featherweight: Charles Rosa vs. Damon Jackson            
Women's Strawweight: Lupita Godinez vs. Sam Hughes            
Lightweight: Steve Garcia vs. Charlie Ontiveros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Dern_vs._Rodriguez

In all honesty, I might skip this event altogether and just go for the casual results. Nothing here sparking my interest, even Dern, who I watched on occasion in BJJ competitions and I love seeing how they do in MMA matches, does little for me. I guess Tim Elliot is sometimes fun to watch. Actually, I wonder now in what accent will Dern talk this time, yeah, that seems intersting.

[tokeweed]

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.

News for Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus rematch could happen very soon for UFC event on November 13!

I like Romanov too but his line is too deep.  A line like that at heavy weight feels kinda iffy to put some action on or put in parlays.  It could be a pie shitter.  

Another interesting underdog pick for the event could be Tim Elliot.  Watch Elliot vs Royval at MMA Core if they have it.  Elliot lost but he is relentless.  I don’t think Nicolau could out last Elliot like Royval did.

Edit:  The books will make Daukas a slight favorite.

[DU18]

Maybe this will get everyone more excited for this weekend's fights

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364124.0

The fight between Dern and Rodriguez will be the main battle at UFC Vegas 39 this weekend, both fighters are fighters who often fight using their Jiu-Jitsu skills, even though they are in different division classes, both fighters have a winning record that is not much different Mackenzie Dern (11-1-0) and Marina Rodriguez (14-1-2).
For female UFC fans, of course this fight will be highly anticipated, but for me personally I might miss it because honestly I prefer a fight between men than seeing two women hitting each other and crush their faces inside the octagon .

[Maidak]

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.
News for Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus rematch could happen very soon for UFC event on November 13!

I like Romanov too but his line is too deep.  A line like that at heavy weight feels kinda iffy to put some action on or put in parlays.  It could be a pie shitter.  
Another interesting underdog pick for the event could be Tim Elliot.  Watch Elliot vs Royval at MMA Core if they have it.  Elliot lost but he is relentless.  I don’t think Nicolau could out last Elliot like Royval did.
Edit:  The books will make Daukas a slight favorite.

Same as you, even I haven't watched a lot of these players but their stats seem interesting to me. Romanov has got a 14-0 scoreline where Venderaa has got a score of 11-5 with 5 KO's. The fight is supposed to happen on the 9th of October. I think I'll support Romanov in this fight and I'm pretty sure that he can hold his no loss stats and increase his win tally to 15.

[TheNineClub]

I am really not interested in most of the fights for upcoming UFC event except maybe one fight in heavyweight category Alexander Romanov vs Jared Vanderaa.
I never watched any of this fighters, but Romanov has perfect 14-0 record with a nickname King Kong, now that must be interesting fight to watch.

News for Kevin Holland vs Kyle Daukaus rematch could happen very soon for UFC event on November 13!

I like Romanov too but his line is too deep.  A line like that at heavy weight feels kinda iffy to put some action on or put in parlays.  It could be a pie shitter.  

Another interesting underdog pick for the event could be Tim Elliot.  Watch Elliot vs Royval at MMA Core if they have it.  Elliot lost but he is relentless.  I don’t think Nicolau could out last Elliot like Royval did.

Edit:  The books will make Daukas a slight favorite.

Elliot got a fan in me with his fight against Mighty Mouse. If I am not mistaking he should be a weight category havier but seems to cut every time, and that goes to his advantage. Always seemed he had a bright future but he was hot/cold after that Mighty Mouse banger.

[notblox1]

Cool story about Mackenzie Dern returning back to MMA after he became a mother, here first fight was only four months after she had a baby and this was her only loss so far.
I am giving her advantage to win in fight against Marina Rodriguez and we may see full five round fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8VcJboOnw

[tokeweed]

^  I can’t disagree.  Dern should win it and the books lined her to win it, but dunno..  I think Rodriguez is just that good of a striker to win the match.  And remember how Rodriguez was lined to be a 3 to 1 underdog vs Ribas?  Different story when leather starts getting thrown to the face.  It could happen again here.

[TheNineClub]

Cool story about Mackenzie Dern returning back to MMA after he became a mother, here first fight was only four months after she had a baby and this was her only loss so far.
I am giving her advantage to win in fight against Marina Rodriguez and we may see full five round fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8VcJboOnw

Dern returning to MMA 4 months after gave birth is just cringe. But whatever, glad she is active with 3 fights in 2020 and now at least 2 in 2021. Others should take notes on the level of activity an upcoming fighter should have to keep remaining relevant in the promotion. With a win here she should be golden when it comes to rankings and could very well be in line to fight the loser of Weili / Namajunas.

[poldanmig]

Cool story about Mackenzie Dern returning back to MMA after he became a mother, here first fight was only four months after she had a baby and this was her only loss so far.
I am giving her advantage to win in fight against Marina Rodriguez and we may see full five round fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID8VcJboOnw

Mackenzie Dern is a pretty tough woman, and I think she will continue her career even though she is now a mother, but I have some doubts about whether she will can ever win the fight and I'm sure four months is not enough time for a woman to recover the condition of her body after giving birth and if she gave birth normally it might not have a big effect, but if she gave birth surgically of course she is very at risk of getting injured if Marina Rodriguez continues to focus on attacking her surgical scars.