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[YuginKadoya]

UFC Fight Night: Cannonier VS Gastelum picks

Jared Cannonier VS Kelvin Gastelum

There are doubts in my mind at first that Kelvin Gastelum might win this, but after seeing the odds at stake.com 1.71 for Jared Cannonier and 2.31 for Kelvin Gastelum, not that high but you can surely see the difference, so I wonder why because I always wonder why many people are taking Cannonier side before making my pick and looking at Jared Cannonier history he is once a Heavyweight, then a Light Heavyweight until he drops to the Middleweight division, while Gastelum comes from Welterweight then comes up to Middleweight, I know many will say that Division is not that a big of a deal but seeing Gastelum at 29 he looks really old than 29 but my take in here he looks depreciating over time, I am not into the hype I am just visualizing what may happen inside the octagon and that is what my take in this fight, and in my opinion it is one weird fight to see, and I am going with Jared Cannonier for the win.

Clay Guida VS Mark Madsen

This is not really what I expect with a Co-main Event but for the undefeated Mark Madsen facing the Experience Clay Guida, I think this will be a wrestling match and both men will sure out-wrestle the other but I don't really think that Guida is the same person back then, he sure has a lot of loss record than the win but if he can still Submit an opponent that is still good, but this will be a wrestling match but Madsen doesn't really have great cardio so this makes the experience Guida to take that advantage on Madsen, Even though Madsen is a former Olympian, Guida had a lot of notable fight that involves wrestling and won with submissions, won against Anthony Pettis, B.J. Penn, Nate Diaz, and Michael Johnson a lot of big names on the UFC, but stakes.com odds was 2.44 for Guida and 1.64 for Madsen, but even though there is a lot of note that pertaining Guida can win this, I am still going for Mark Madsen, and this is a 50/50 decision for me.

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[Welsh]

He doesn't have all that good of history with decisions in title fights, lost both of them (we are talking about 5 round fights, not 3), so that could be telling. I can't, for the life of me remember if it's because of his gas tank or what. However, Cannonier has never fought a fiver rounder to length so let's see who buckles first.

Cannonier is predominately a striker though, and as I've said previously when you match up a striker against a wrestler, it's usually the wrestler that does better. What you tend to see is the striker becomes so wary of the takedown, they stop throwing as much volume as they usually do, then sometimes you even seen the wrestlers out striker the strikers. He may have not done well in the past with decisions, but I do not see him knocking out Cannonier or even getting a finish against him, but for some reason my gut feeling is he's going to win this match up.

Although, I'm not trying to convince anyone to go for Kelvin. I mean the last few championship fights I've got wrong consecutively.

[Bttzed03]

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What you tend to see is the striker becomes so wary of the takedown, they stop throwing as much volume as they usually do, then sometimes you even seen the wrestlers out striker the strikers.

I couldn't agree more. Not to mention that some wrestlers have heavy hands too and Kelvin is one of them.

I'm also seeing a Kelvin win here but I'd rather wait for live betting (if there's available). He'll probably win by KO/TKO if he doesn't take too much damage in the first two rounds.

[TheNineClub]

He doesn't have all that good of history with decisions in title fights, lost both of them (we are talking about 5 round fights, not 3), so that could be telling. I can't, for the life of me remember if it's because of his gas tank or what. However, Cannonier has never fought a fiver rounder to length so let's see who buckles first.

Cannonier is predominately a striker though, and as I've said previously when you match up a striker against a wrestler, it's usually the wrestler that does better. What you tend to see is the striker becomes so wary of the takedown, they stop throwing as much volume as they usually do, then sometimes you even seen the wrestlers out striker the strikers. He may have not done well in the past with decisions, but I do not see him knocking out Cannonier or even getting a finish against him, but for some reason my gut feeling is he's going to win this match up.

Although, I'm not trying to convince anyone to go for Kelvin. I mean the last few championship fights I've got wrong consecutively.

I would completely agree with you...if this was 2007 Outside of certain fighters, the game has changed to where they are much more rounded and less weary of being taken to the deep end be it striking, BJJ or wrestling. Maybe Cannonier is not that guy, that we shall see, but for the most part, I think that's the landscape of current MMA.

[Welsh]

I would completely agree with you...if this was 2007 Outside of certain fighters, the game has changed to where they are much more rounded and less weary of being taken to the deep end be it striking, BJJ or wrestling. Maybe Cannonier is not that guy, that we shall see, but for the most part, I think that's the landscape of current MMA.

I've definitely seen quite a few fights recently that ended up going the way I described. It's typical that none of their names are springing to my mind right now, but there has definitely been examples of this. The only thing with this fight is, I don't consider Kelvin a massive threat of a submission, this might impact how Cannonier reacts, but if Kelvin gets Cannonier down onto the mat, he likely isn't getting up without the help of the cage. This might cause Cannonier to drop his hands, trying to defend the take down, which then means his striking takes longer to land, and he's more prone to reacting to feints from Kelvin.

If I'm Kelvin I'd get Cannonier twitching by feinting take downs, and then when he's biting really hard, just go up top with a few fists, get him to respect the fists to the face, and then once he gets frustrated, and starts to over extent, that's when you go for a well timed take down. That's the game plan I would be walking into this fight with.

[notblox1]

Anyone remembers how Gastelum performed against Robert Whittaker and Darren Till losing those fights?
I am expecting something similar in this fight with Cannonier and I don't believe he will use by KO but there is always first time for everything.
Cannonier also lost from Whittaker so in this fight we are going to see who is better from this two guys, even if ranking and odds are giving advantage to Cannonier.

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[tokeweed]

UFC Fight Night: Cannonier VS Gastelum picks

Jared Cannonier VS Kelvin Gastelum

There are doubts in my mind at first that Kelvin Gastelum might win this, but after seeing the odds at stake.com 1.71 for Jared Cannonier and 2.31 for Kelvin Gastelum, not that high but you can surely see the difference, so I wonder why because I always wonder why many people are taking Cannonier side before making my pick and looking at Jared Cannonier history he is once a Heavyweight, then a Light Heavyweight until he drops to the Middleweight division, while Gastelum comes from Welterweight then comes up to Middleweight, I know many will say that Division is not that a big of a deal but seeing Gastelum at 29 he looks really old than 29 but my take in here he looks depreciating over time, I am not into the hype I am just visualizing what may happen inside the octagon and that is what my take in this fight, and in my opinion it is one weird fight to see, and I am going with Jared Cannonier for the win.

Clay Guida VS Mark Madsen

This is not really what I expect with a Co-main Event but for the undefeated Mark Madsen facing the Experience Clay Guida, I think this will be a wrestling match and both men will sure out-wrestle the other but I don't really think that Guida is the same person back then, he sure has a lot of loss record than the win but if he can still Submit an opponent that is still good, but this will be a wrestling match but Madsen doesn't really have great cardio so this makes the experience Guida to take that advantage on Madsen, Even though Madsen is a former Olympian, Guida had a lot of notable fight that involves wrestling and won with submissions, won against Anthony Pettis, B.J. Penn, Nate Diaz, and Michael Johnson a lot of big names on the UFC, but stakes.com odds was 2.44 for Guida and 1.64 for Madsen, but even though there is a lot of note that pertaining Guida can win this, I am still going for Mark Madsen, and this is a 50/50 decision for me.

That gas tank of Madsen is really bad tho.  He is the better wrestler and Guida does have a tendency to stick his neck out ready to get caught in a guillotine.  Lol.  But Guida could win R2 and R3 and might even get a finish at R3.  So I could see this either go Madsen via sub early or Guida via decision...  Possibly even a finish at R3 cos Madsen would just be exhausted.  But leaning towards Guida more.  Would I bet it?  Yup but small.

[Welsh]

Here's my predictions for the weekend:

Palatnikov (TKO)
Roberts (decision)
Knight (decision)
Nunes (decision)
Kelleher (TKO)
Gastelum (decision)

All of the rest of the fights I'm avoiding like other plague, I think there's quite a few problematic fights in there for the favourites, and I can see quite a few shocking finishes for the underdogs. Staying away from a betting perspective. The only ones I have on my accumulator from above is Gastelum for the decision, and then Knight for the decision. Knight might get the finish though.

[YuginKadoya]

UFC Fight Night: Cannonier VS Gastelum picks

Jared Cannonier VS Kelvin Gastelum

There are doubts in my mind at first that Kelvin Gastelum might win this, but after seeing the odds at stake.com 1.71 for Jared Cannonier and 2.31 for Kelvin Gastelum, not that high but you can surely see the difference, so I wonder why because I always wonder why many people are taking Cannonier side before making my pick and looking at Jared Cannonier history he is once a Heavyweight, then a Light Heavyweight until he drops to the Middleweight division, while Gastelum comes from Welterweight then comes up to Middleweight, I know many will say that Division is not that a big of a deal but seeing Gastelum at 29 he looks really old than 29 but my take in here he looks depreciating over time, I am not into the hype I am just visualizing what may happen inside the octagon and that is what my take in this fight, and in my opinion it is one weird fight to see, and I am going with Jared Cannonier for the win.

Clay Guida VS Mark Madsen

This is not really what I expect with a Co-main Event but for the undefeated Mark Madsen facing the Experience Clay Guida, I think this will be a wrestling match and both men will sure out-wrestle the other but I don't really think that Guida is the same person back then, he sure has a lot of loss record than the win but if he can still Submit an opponent that is still good, but this will be a wrestling match but Madsen doesn't really have great cardio so this makes the experience Guida to take that advantage on Madsen, Even though Madsen is a former Olympian, Guida had a lot of notable fight that involves wrestling and won with submissions, won against Anthony Pettis, B.J. Penn, Nate Diaz, and Michael Johnson a lot of big names on the UFC, but stakes.com odds was 2.44 for Guida and 1.64 for Madsen, but even though there is a lot of note that pertaining Guida can win this, I am still going for Mark Madsen, and this is a 50/50 decision for me.

That gas tank of Madsen is really bad tho.  He is the better wrestler and Guida does have a tendency to stick his neck out ready to get caught in a guillotine.  Lol.  But Guida could win R2 and R3 and might even get a finish at R3.  So I could see this either go Madsen via sub early or Guida via decision...  Possibly even a finish at R3 cos Madsen would just be exhausted.  But leaning towards Guida more.  Would I bet it?  Yup but small.

Madsen is not very good with his cardio though but I think he can sure out wrestle Guida or finish the match more quickly, or maybe he has not had good cardio for the fight, that is why I have said I am 50/50 with my decision and in times like this it is sure the worst pick I have ever said, I don't really think Guida is still the same back when he is starting, and even though he has the experience I think that Mark Madsen might pull something, and even though Clay Guida looks good on his last fight I really think he has lost against Michael Johnson.

[7788bitcoin]

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Cannonier is predominately a striker though, and as I've said previously when you match up a striker against a wrestler, it's usually the wrestler that does better. What you tend to see is the striker becomes so wary of the takedown, they stop throwing as much volume as they usually do, then sometimes you even seen the wrestlers out striker the strikers. He may have not done well in the past with decisions, but I do not see him knocking out Cannonier or even getting a finish against him, but for some reason my gut feeling is he's going to win this match up.

Although, I'm not trying to convince anyone to go for Kelvin. I mean the last few championship fights I've got wrong consecutively.

I completely understand your point, but Kelvin Gastellum despite a wrestler he likes to stand and bang and he struggled against strikers because he always tries to out strike the strikers and that is not going to happen. That is what happened in the fight against Israel Adesanya, Darren Till and recently against Robert Whittaker and he lost all of those fights and hence i would like to pick Jared Cannonier in this fight for his knockout power.

[KennyXBTC]

from the previous matchup ..
i would say for upcoming main event Gastelum vs Cannonier  , i would say that Cannonier will win via TKO by round 3.

it will be an easy fight and easy money .  have $1k on Cannonier  , with additional 2x payout from stake.

[Bttzed03]

~ it will be an easy fight and easy money .  have $1k on Cannonier  , with additional 2x payout from stake.

Though defeated by some of the well-known strikers in the game, Gastelum has never been an easy fight for them.

That's some amount you placed there. Did you just bet on the winner or you also included by TKO? Best of luck with your bet/s.

[YuginKadoya]

from the previous matchup ..
i would say for upcoming main event Gastelum vs Cannonier  , i would say that Cannonier will win via TKO by round 3.

it will be an easy fight and easy money .  have $1k on Cannonier  , with additional 2x payout from stake.

I surely respect your decision and that is your money so you can surely do whatever you want with it, and did you put the winning method or your betting with 1x2? just curious and you seem pretty sure with your choices, anyway I will be looking forward to Jared Cannonier winning, but if Kelvin Gastelum wins surely all that bet for him will have a good night sleep because of the odds,

My other picks in this event

Main Card

Mark Madsen
Chase Sherman
Trevin Jones
Austin Hubbard
Alexandre Pantoja

Preliminary Card

Luis Saldana
Brian Kelleher
Josiane Nunes
William Knight
Roosevelt Roberts
Ramiz Brahimaj

[KennyXBTC]

from the previous matchup ..
i would say for upcoming main event Gastelum vs Cannonier  , i would say that Cannonier will win via TKO by round 3.

it will be an easy fight and easy money .  have $1k on Cannonier  , with additional 2x payout from stake.

I surely respect your decision and that is your money so you can surely do whatever you want with it, and did you put the winning method or your betting with 1x2? just curious and you seem pretty sure with your choices, anyway I will be looking forward to Jared Cannonier winning, but if Kelvin Gastelum wins surely all that bet for him will have a good night sleep because of the odds,

My other picks in this event

Main Card

Mark Madsen
Chase Sherman
Trevin Jones
Austin Hubbard
Alexandre Pantoja

Preliminary Card

Luis Saldana
Brian Kelleher
Josiane Nunes
William Knight
Roosevelt Roberts
Ramiz Brahimaj

yeah just bet on 1x2

[KennyXBTC]

~ it will be an easy fight and easy money .  have $1k on Cannonier  , with additional 2x payout from stake.

Though defeated by some of the well-known strikers in the game, Gastelum has never been an easy fight for them.

That's some amount you placed there. Did you just bet on the winner or you also included by TKO? Best of luck with your bet/s.

usually for this i just go for 'winner'

[YuginKadoya]

yeah just bet on 1x2

You will surely get double the earnings if Kelvin Gastelum really wins, and your choice of how he won, then that would be a joyous bet for you, and all my picks are just my speculation on who's going to win you can surely get an idea on that, but I will still go with Jared Cannonier winning this, I just get the feeling that this is a straight-up striking advantage for him, even though Gastelum has pretty smooth wrestling, I think Cannoniuer take down defense had improved.

usually for this i just go for 'winner'

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[TheNineClub]

Gastelum almost bombed on the weigh-ins he got it on the second try. Saidyokub Kakhramonov missed the limit. I wouldn't be surprised if Gastelum missed it completely, If I am not mistaking, he has had issues before.

[cabron]

Gastelum almost bombed on the weigh-ins he got it on the second try. Saidyokub Kakhramonov missed the limit. I wouldn't be surprised if Gastelum missed it completely, If I am not mistaking, he has had issues before.

While Cannoniuer got it easy and he was heavier than Gastelum previously. You know there is a problem when they bring that black booth to cover him while weighing.
I still think this is a fair fight base on their record. Gastelum is Impressive even in his fight with Adesanya but that's when the losing streak started. I have already cast by bet for him to win.

Amazing to see Guida still comes up with fresher enthusiasm. That guy didn't grow old.

[AverageGlabella]

Gastelum almost bombed on the weigh-ins he got it on the second try. Saidyokub Kakhramonov missed the limit. I wouldn't be surprised if Gastelum missed it completely, If I am not mistaking, he has had issues before.

I have seen this a couple of times where the guys have to take their underwear off and put a towel around them. It was probably a hard cut because Gastelum is getting older. I think he will get knocked out first round for the 1st time in his career. I do not like betting or supporting those that miss weight.

[tokeweed]

Gastelum almost bombed on the weigh-ins he got it on the second try. Saidyokub Kakhramonov missed the limit. I wouldn't be surprised if Gastelum missed it completely, If I am not mistaking, he has had issues before.

Heh yeah...  It’s prolly just a botched weight cut and it does not really show where his mind is at rn.  It’s pretty obvious that he tried making the weight with just being .25 lbs over.

Anyway here are the weigh ins and the face offs.

UFC Vegas 34:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZxpOr3830M

UFC Vegas 34:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVqdbKOMzU4