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How are people feeling about McGregor's return in the 170lb weight class? Do you think he'll be given the title fight he's asking for? I keep seeing tweets from him every day talking about how he's going to be the first 3 weight class champion by knocking out all his opponents. While I think that is extremely unlikely given who his opponent would be, it is fun to think about. I'm not sure he'll even be given the chance though. Most people don't think he can stand in the ring with Kamaru Usman but it seems like the money will be there... I'm not sure if Kamaru Usman wants to give McGregor the punchers chance, but I think he won't be able to turn down the money. If McGregor loses this fight, will that be the end of his UFC career?
The thing is if Dana was to feed a Conor who hasn't won in years to Usman, and he loses again. That probably wouldn't be the end of his career, but there's a certain point that people start losing interest in a fighter. We've seen the shift in mentality towards Conor the last few years, mainly because he has lost a lot of his witty comments, and its mainly now changed to aggression, and insulting without actually being funny at all. Then, he doesn't back up the talk in the cage. Its only good to be a good talker if you can back it up, and previously Conor did just that. That's why everyone loved him. He was controversial, and a fantastic fighter. Easily one of the best to ever be in the UFC. Although, he has seemed a shadow of himself in recent years. Whatever the reason for losing his ability to win fights, I do think a lot of fighters now know his game plan if you can stay safe in the first round you probably make it the second round. By that time Conor is usually exhausted, and a pretty easy win. Usman has the skills to avoid for long enough to get the takedown, and wear on Conor. Anyway, back to your original question. Will Dana sanction the fight right away? Probably not, it makes more sense for both parties to get some wins under the belt first. It starts to build some of the lost hype from Conor, and Conor likely prolongs the attention he gets from fans, which likely directly translates to more money for both Dana, and Conor. I don't think he'll get the title shot right away, and as a fan I hope he doesn't.
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~ Totally agree, with all the hype and skill khamzat has, nothing compares to a title fight. Even though burns lost and there was no crowd, the experience and pain of fighting Usman is something khamzat does not have under his belt yet. I think after the first, which is when burns is at his best, if he is unable to rock khamzat or at least respect his power, it will be the beginning of the end. Not just for the fight, but potentially his career. How can you lose a title fight and then to the best up and coming fighter. You seriously cannot say that about Kamaru Usman, he made 5 title defenses after getting the title from Tyron Woodley who is by the way cut from the UFC after that because of his performance, two times he faced Colby Covington and twice Jorge Masvidal and he got rocked in those fights and the only tough match up was Gilbert Burns and even in that fight Kamary Usman was rocked badly even though he was able to recover and win the fight. Khamzat Chimaev has legit one punch knockout power and he is huge for the Welterweight division and you think he is not up to the mark to get the title against Kamaru Usman ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I want to see him fight Israel Adesanya as well and those will be great fights if he continues this domination. For me, Kamaru Usman is a great fighter and obviously, he did get rocked in those fights but he did also come back. I also know that Khamzat Chimaev is a great fighter also and at this moment it seems like he is really Unstoppable. And I think people often forget about the power of Kamaru Usman. he also has the power of knocking out people in one punch. I think the way to decide who is better between Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev is to have a fight between them. And yes I agree that a lot of people want to see Israel Adesanya fight Khamzat. Khamzat's fight with Burns I think will measure whether he can absolutely have the chance to get a shot for title. Many had been rooting for him which obviously made him the bookies fave. But some are also confident with Burns. Between Usman and Adesanya, its likely Usman that can beat Cumshot. Just calculating risk because its highly likely that Khamzat will submit Burns, I bet by Submission while also betting Burns by KO? Anyone did this?
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Ceremonial weigh ins start in around 4 hours. This event seems a little chalky but you make do with what you have. Here's my degen parlay for the event. Follow at your own risk, this is more like a lottery ticket for fun. And I'm no MMA betting sharp, just an afficionado like most of you guys. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ticket 1: Volk - Roz at 1.89 - 10 USD Ticket 2 Add: Chim - Yan - Arce at 4.15 - 5 USD Ticket 3 Add: Pennington - Garry - Dern at 15.01 - 2 USD Ticket 4 Add: Madsen - Rodriguez - Hernandez at 87.29 - 2 USD Ticket 5 Add: Gall - Vanderaa at 427.37 - 1 USD That's my UFC weekend. UFC 273: Ceremonial weigh inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVjdCIAl6UHere were the official weigh in results. A couple of fighers missed weight with one getting a -20% penalty for missing weight by 2.5 lbs. Alexander Volkanovski (144.5) vs. Chan Sung Jung (144.5) Aljamain Sterling (134.5) vs. interim champ Petr Yan (134) Gilbert Burns (170) vs. Khamzat Chimaev (170) Mackenzie Dern (115.5) vs. Tecia Torres (115.5) Mark Madsen (155) vs. Vinc Pichel (155.5) Ian Garry (170.5) vs. Darian Weeks (170.5) Jairzinho Rozenstruik (252.5) vs. Marcin Tybura (253) Aspen Ladd (136) vs. Raquel Pennington (134.5) Mickey Gall (170.5) vs. Mike Malott (170.5) Aleksei Oleinik (244) vs. Jared Vanderaa (266) Josh Fremd (185.5) vs. Anthony Hernandez (186) Kay Hansen (118.5)* vs. Piera Rodriguez (115) Julio Arce (136.5)** vs. Daniel Santos (135.5) And play jeremypwr's UFC Multi Master here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5393393.0
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I had a good laught recently, odds on sterling are 4.35 and higher ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) can you imagine that? I just realised, this is the first time odds on a champ are so high. Last time I saw something like that, was first fight against Miocic vs Ngannou. Odds on Miocic were +2 while he was a champ. And that is ok, because Ngannou came with a record of 10-0 to this fight, all KO. I think several guys here are the only one who believe in Aljos victory.
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One fight has been canceled for upcoming UFC 273 with Marcin Tybura had to drop because of his illness, so Jairzinho Rozenstruik will have to wait for other opportunity to fight. Most predictions I saw are favoring Volkanovski to win in main event against Korean Zombie, but I expect to see good fight in five rounds. For co-main event I think we are going to see much shorter fight and win by Petr Yan in first few rounds, but this time with legal KO.
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UFC 273 Here are my picks for UFC's Tomorrow fight
Alexander Volkanovski VS The Korean Zombie
Stake odds are pretty much not balanced and Volkanovski is the favorite to win, 1.16 for Volkanovski while 6.40 for the Zombie, I think Alexander Volkanovski can finish the fight in so many ways, by TKO, Submission, takedown KO, or even with a decision, Volkanovski is one well-rounded dude, I really think Volkanovski pretty much has the advantage, but the Korean Zombie is so versatile as well but in my opinion his chins durability is less effective anymore, that is where he got his persona of the Korean Zombie, but pretty much I don't trust his chin anymore, but the Korean Zombie will sure give Volkanovski a good fight either way, but I will be going with Volkanovski.
Aljamain Sterling VS Petr Yan
Stake odds for this fight are 5.00 for Sterling while 1.22 for Yan, just like the Volkanovski and Zombie fight odds are pretty unbalanced and pretty much Yan is the favorite here, and right now Sterling is pretty much confident on the Press Conference when he is saying that all will be shifting bandwagon and will be going on his side, and everybody who's going to put their money on him will going to be rich Guaranteed he added, well I could see Sterling winning this if his cardio is ready for 5 rounds but Petr Yan is surely got the advantage in here, his boxing is more superior, his kicks are more superior, Yan is a wrestler, and a better understanding with reach and distance, and a superior IQ in the fight so overall I could see Sterling winning in with another disqualification, no pun intended but my pick will be Yan.
Gilbert Burns VS Khamzat Chimaev
Stake odds for this fight are 5.60 for Burns while 1.19 for Chimaev making Khamzat the favorite, and likely because of the hype but with this fight we can see if he really is just a hype or a legit fighter, to face Kamaru Usman, actually seeing Burns training just shock my mind and I could only think can Khamzat Chimaev really beat Burns, but surely Khamzat Chimaev can not make any error with this fight, his opponent is legit with jiu-jitsu and can surely take the fight to the ground, as far as the fight concern this is mostly an unpredictable fight and I am picking Khamzat Chimaev but I am really 50/50 in this fight and that is most exciting when it comes to fighting like this it is pretty much hard to predict that is why this fight is really worthy to be called a secret main event.
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You seriously cannot say that about Kamaru Usman, he made 5 title defenses after getting the title from Tyron Woodley who is by the way cut from the UFC after that because of his performance, two times he faced Colby Covington and twice Jorge Masvidal and he got rocked in those fights and the only tough match up was Gilbert Burns and even in that fight Kamary Usman was rocked badly even though he was able to recover and win the fight. Khamzat Chimaev has legit one punch knockout power and he is huge for the Welterweight division and you think he is not up to the mark to get the title against Kamaru Usman ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I want to see him fight Israel Adesanya as well and those will be great fights if he continues this domination. For me, Kamaru Usman is a great fighter and obviously, he did get rocked in those fights but he did also come back. I also know that Khamzat Chimaev is a great fighter also and at this moment it seems like he is really Unstoppable. And I think people often forget about the power of Kamaru Usman. he also has the power of knocking out people in one punch. I think the way to decide who is better between Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev is to have a fight between them. And yes I agree that a lot of people want to see Israel Adesanya fight Khamzat. Khamzat's fight with Burns I think will measure whether he can absolutely have the chance to get a shot for title. Many had been rooting for him which obviously made him the bookies fave. But some are also confident with Burns. Between Usman and Adesanya, its likely Usman that can beat Cumshot. Just calculating risk because its highly likely that Khamzat will submit Burns, I bet by Submission while also betting Burns by KO? Anyone did this? I would really like it if you don't call him that. he has a name. and I think a person really does not deserve to be called any bad names like that. If you think burns can defeat Khamzat, good luck. Khamzat can knock people out like they are nothing and he can also make people go to sleep. and both his stand-up and ground fighting is unmatched in my opinion at the moment.
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I had a good laught recently, odds on sterling are 4.35 and higher ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) can you imagine that? I just realised, this is the first time odds on a champ are so high. Last time I saw something like that, was first fight against Miocic vs Ngannou. Odds on Miocic were +2 while he was a champ. And that is ok, because Ngannou came with a record of 10-0 to this fight, all KO. I think several guys here are the only one who believe in Aljos victory. If I remember correctly Stipe Miocic was told to be the underdog in that fight against Francis because obviously Francis had the power to Knock Out anyone or I think I should say anything that stands in front of him but Stipe Miocic was really clever. He made Francis tired and at the end of the fight, Francis didn't have enough gas left in him to even throw a proper jab. So, in this case, even though the odds are really higher for the champion I will not be surprised if something similar happened.
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One fight has been canceled for upcoming UFC 273 with Marcin Tybura had to drop because of his illness, so Jairzinho Rozenstruik will have to wait for other opportunity to fight. Most predictions I saw are favoring Volkanovski to win in main event against Korean Zombie, but I expect to see good fight in five rounds. For co-main event I think we are going to see much shorter fight and win by Petr Yan in first few rounds, but this time with legal KO.
Sucks as Roz is the second leg of my parlay at 'ticket 1'. It heavily lost a lot of value. And I think that's an understatement. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And yeah, it could be a good 5 rounder but I really can't expect anything from TKZ at this point. It mostly didn't happen for him at 145 and he's going for the title after winning vs Ige? Did the UFC forget that he got his ass wupped by Ortega? But it's just prolly the UFC running out of ideas for Volk. I could see him move up and go for the strap at 155.
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I don't think if McGregor loses the fight against Kamaru Usman, it will be the end of his career. especially because he just moved on to the 170-pound weight class. I also have seen a lot of clips where Conor McGregor talks about how he is going to get to the top of the 170-pound fighting. But I obviously think he has no chance against Kamaru Usman. I think Joe Rogan put it the correct way, he said, ”be careful what you wish for, Kamaru Usman is at the top of the food chain and he is a natural 170 lb fighter. it might be costly for Conor McGregor to challenge gym because Conor McGregor is not a natural 170 lb fighter.” Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir-kbFuDS-YIn my opinion, he needs to start from the bottom of the division, I don't think he can stand a chance against Khamzat Chimaev, Belal Muhammad, or Gilbert Burns before aiming his target with the Champion Kamaru Usman, but year Conor McGregor is one hepty guy that can get what he wants with pure cash, So we can not argue about that, I really don't believe that Conor can really survive this division, especially with the number of wrestlers in here he surely need to understand more about defending against the grappling of Khabib Nurmagomenodov then he can surely stand a chance. To be honest, I think Conor McGregor is washed right now and he is a better Twitter Warrior than he is a fighter to be honest. and the prime days of Conor McGregor are gone. So, I think he should better stick to Twitter and not call out the best fighters of any division. If anyone thinks that Conor McGregor has even a slight chance against the best fighters like Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev, I think that guy is sadly mistaken, he really should stop being a Connor fanboy and look at things realistically.
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To be honest, I think Conor McGregor is washed right now and he is a better Twitter Warrior than he is a fighter to be honest. and the prime days of Conor McGregor are gone.
So, I think he should better stick to Twitter and not call out the best fighters of any division. If anyone thinks that Conor McGregor has even a slight chance against the best fighters like Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev, I think that guy is sadly mistaken, he really should stop being a Connor fanboy and look at things realistically.
His fans need to move on sometimes, and so are Conor McGregor he should stick in his business and do some advertisement he will not have to be doing anything to get rich, but I really think he surely has that money right now from that fight with Floyd Mayweather, he surely can not stand a chance against fighters in the big league, and yes he is washed up, I really think he just needs to take a Logan Paul fight maybe he would still do good money in an exhibition match with certain celebrities, of maybe fight Machine Gun Kelly inside the ring, if he surely has a grudge on him then take that frustration inside the ring, and not in with MTV Video Music Awards, that could surely destroy his reputation that already destroyed, And I have watched a video of professional MMA fighters well these are well-known fighters that I think know what they are saying and because they had some experience inside the ring or octagon, I surely will share it here and a lot are really talking about the Khamzat Chimaev VS Gilbert Burns more than the Main and Co-Main events, but as I have said I think that this fight is a secret Main event, in my opinion, and a lot of UFC fighters are sure for Khamzat Chimaev and 6 out of 4 are for Chimaev and here is the VIDEO
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One fight has been canceled for upcoming UFC 273 with Marcin Tybura had to drop because of his illness, so Jairzinho Rozenstruik will have to wait for other opportunity to fight. Most predictions I saw are favoring Volkanovski to win in main event against Korean Zombie, but I expect to see good fight in five rounds. For co-main event I think we are going to see much shorter fight and win by Petr Yan in first few rounds, but this time with legal KO.
Let me tell you something, even though people are favoring Alexander Volkanovski In this fight, Korean Zombie is no joke. he is one of the best Fighters and he will surely give his opponent a lot of trouble in my opinion. I also expect a really good five rounds from both of these fighters. In the co-main event, I also expect Yan to win. I always don't want that to happen in the first round. I think a first-round KO just takes a lot of skill level away from what could potentially happen in a match.
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April 09, 2022, 08:32:10 PM |
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One fight has been canceled for upcoming UFC 273 with Marcin Tybura had to drop because of his illness, so Jairzinho Rozenstruik will have to wait for other opportunity to fight. Most predictions I saw are favoring Volkanovski to win in main event against Korean Zombie, but I expect to see good fight in five rounds. For co-main event I think we are going to see much shorter fight and win by Petr Yan in first few rounds, but this time with legal KO.
Let me tell you something, even though people are favoring Alexander Volkanovski In this fight, Korean Zombie is no joke. he is one of the best Fighters and he will surely give his opponent a lot of trouble in my opinion. I also expect a really good five rounds from both of these fighters. In the co-main event, I also expect Yan to win. I always don't want that to happen in the first round. I think a first-round KO just takes a lot of skill level away from what could potentially happen in a match. I don't think anyone is really sleeping on TKZ. At least anyone that has been following the sport knows why he is where he is now and how he got there, and he can for sure take Alex if things align a bit to his favor. But, as I mentioned previously, I just think that in the case of this fight, whatever TKZ does great, Alex does better. But, it wouldn't be the first time that I'm wrong XD
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Its TIIIIMMMMEEEEEE!
Pretty excited for tonight's card. Think from bottom to top despite losing some of the fights due to injuries, and what not is absolutely stacked. I'm not going to make many adjustments to my predictions except for:
Alexander Volkanovski: intensity will be too much, and although I'm a fan of the Korean Zombie, I unfortunately don't see him winning, although I will be hoping that he finds a way somehow, but from a betting perspective I can't go against Alex in this.
Petr Yan: I expect Aljamain Sterling to put up a better fight than last time, but ultimately (barring any DQ's) I think Petr Yan makes a show of it just like last time. Sterling will be looking for that submission now they he knows he's completely outclassed on the feet.
Gilbert Burns: I know absolutely crazy, right? I'm going against the hype, and I'll be backing the underdog here. I've always liked Burns when he fights, and I think he showed up in the first round of the fight against Usman. We know what happened after, but I think his energy, and threat could cause problems for Chimaev. Burns needs to be careful not too over commit though. Honestly, the safest bet which is what I'm going with is the fight will go the distance. Its still a massive risk, since I think most people think Chimaev makes short work of Burns, but I think he'll be able to survive the submissions personally.
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~ Gilbert Burns: I know absolutely crazy, right? I'm going against the hype, and I'll be backing the underdog here. I've always liked Burns when he fights, and I think he showed up in the first round of the fight against Usman. We know what happened after, but I think his energy, and threat could cause problems for Chimaev. Burns needs to be careful not too over commit though. Honestly, the safest bet which is what I'm going with is the fight will go the distance. Its still a massive risk, since I think most people think Chimaev makes short work of Burns, but I think he'll be able to survive the submissions personally.
The only situation i see Gilbert Burns winning is if Khamzat Chimaev become too confident about his ground skills and gets trapped in a submission. We have seen these type of scenarios in the past and with the way he fought against Li Jingliang, if he does the same he will be tapped. I am not expecting his chin to be tested. Going with multiple parlays and i am really interested to see how the fights go.
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The only situation i see Gilbert Burns winning is if Khamzat Chimaev become too confident about his ground skills and gets trapped in a submission. We have seen these type of scenarios in the past and with the way he fought against Li Jingliang, if he does the same he will be tapped. I am not expecting his chin to be tested. Going with multiple parlays and i am really interested to see how the fights go.
Burns can hurt anyone in the division. He hasn't had a knockout win in a long time now, but he put it to Usman in that first round. Usman was definitely rocked at some point. Plus, Burns has enough energy, and volume to potentially get a decision victory. I'll openly admit that Chimaev is definitely the favourite going into it, but at odds of 5.00 it just makes sense to bet with Burns, since this is definitely a leap up for Chimaev in terms of quality of opponent. Nice to see my betting picks didn't fail on the first one, as they usually do.
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The only situation i see Gilbert Burns winning is if Khamzat Chimaev become too confident about his ground skills and gets trapped in a submission. We have seen these type of scenarios in the past and with the way he fought against Li Jingliang, if he does the same he will be tapped. I am not expecting his chin to be tested. Going with multiple parlays and i am really interested to see how the fights go.
Burns can hurt anyone in the division. He hasn't had a knockout win in a long time now, but he put it to Usman in that first round. Usman was definitely rocked at some point. Plus, Burns has enough energy, and volume to potentially get a decision victory. I'll openly admit that Chimaev is definitely the favourite going into it, but at odds of 5.00 it just makes sense to bet with Burns, since this is definitely a leap up for Chimaev in terms of quality of opponent. Nice to see my betting picks didn't fail on the first one, as they usually do. The underdog almost won by KO. To me, it seem Burns won but Dana doesn't want to end the Khamzat hype. That's understandable. If it was just 5 rounds, Khamzat would have been KOed already. He was just saved by the bell in the 2nd round. Now Khamzat would have to fear Usman as he also has seen how he struggles in this fight. Weakness revealed so far. Khamzat would have to learn more from this fight.
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I honestly thought Burns won that, although I'll admit bias in it. Either way, it could have gone to anyone. The third round was very close. First round was Khazat's, and the second was clearly Burns. I don't think the hype has been rerailed per say, but at least people can stop pretending like he's super human now. Burns very nearly knocked him out twice, one of them was particularly bad.
Khamzat also stopped shooting for takedowns, Burns was defending them well. Probably surprised by his strength as he has had it relatively easy in his last opponents. Awesome fight though, and I don't have any real complaints about the decision, it was super close could have gone either way.
Khamzat does have age in his benefit mind, Burns not so much being 35. So, Khamzat will definitely learn from this, and he probably will get the belt at some point. Still a very good performance against a really underrated Burns considering his rank.
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^ I was also wondering why Chimaev stopped with the TD after Burns defended well in R1. Maybe he wants to prove a point he could KO him with his striking?
R2 was a real treat and Burns won that one. I think he's lucky not to have been penalized for strikes at the back of the head towards the end of the round (right before he was taken down).
R3, I think, was Chimaev's. He was pushing forward and throwing/landing more punches.
Anyway, I'm glad how this fight turned out. I hope this humbles down Chimaev a bit. He was becoming arrogant after winning easily in his previous fights.
edit: On Sterling vs. Yan.
Yan started slow once again (just like the first fight) and he paid the price. I'm not sure how you will score round 1 but that made the difference in this fight with 2 judges giving it to Sterling and 1 for Yan.
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What an event. Havent been so much exhited to watch every fight. Burns - Chimaev. We have all seen that Chimaev has enough stamina for all rounds. But we have also seen that he is not a God. I think this was a very close fight. And if Chimaev comes with such tactics, condition to a fight against Usman, then Chimaev would lose. It is hard to best champ when judges are involved. Why ? See Aljo vs Yan fight. Yan vs Aljo. Yan got what he deserved. He was too confident. As usually lost first round. And threw some wide punches, Yan was throwing them like “hope they hit”. There were not accented punches. You can knock down drunk people on local disco with that, but not in a title fight. I have underestimated Aljo, Yan also. His saying that he was robbed was wrong. Volkanovsky vs Zombie. This division need a wrestler or bjj fighter to stop Volkanovsky. Btw Aljo is good for that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I think he is to huge for bantamweight. Wide shoulders, big bones. I am sure he cuts a lot. Now I would love to see him moving to featherweight. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oleynik vs Vanderaa. Boa did it again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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