Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Sithara007]

Told ya.. Windies always play well against the Poms.

Yeah.. never took you seriously at that time. It is difficult to believe actually. West Indies had the home advantage. But they fared poorly against other test nations at home (even against Ireland). So what happened to England? Their bowling was pathetic, but the batting was even worse. So why did the batsmen completely failed in facing a bunch of ordinary looking bowlers from the West Indies? Actually they need to drop some of the useless batsmen rather than kicking out Anderson and Broad from the squad.

[blatchcorn]

Yeah.. never took you seriously at that time. It is difficult to believe actually. West Indies had the home advantage. But they fared poorly against other test nations at home (even against Ireland). So what happened to England? Their bowling was pathetic, but the batting was even worse. So why did the batsmen completely failed in facing a bunch of ordinary looking bowlers from the West Indies? Actually they need to drop some of the useless batsmen rather than kicking out Anderson and Broad from the squad.

Just like India can't give rest to King Kohli, England can't rest Ben Stokes and few other players which you are referring. If  this situation persists then England will become a team as they were in late 90s. Cricket is greatly in decline in countries like West Indies, South Africa and SL. They were  once considered to be best team but now they are at level of associate teams.

[CryptoBuds]

Yeah.. never took you seriously at that time. It is difficult to believe actually. West Indies had the home advantage. But they fared poorly against other test nations at home (even against Ireland). So what happened to England? Their bowling was pathetic, but the batting was even worse. So why did the batsmen completely failed in facing a bunch of ordinary looking bowlers from the West Indies? Actually they need to drop some of the useless batsmen rather than kicking out Anderson and Broad from the squad.

Just like India can't give rest to King Kohli, England can't rest Ben Stokes and few other players which you are referring. If  this situation persists then England will become a team as they were in late 90s. Cricket is greatly in decline in countries like West Indies, South Africa and SL. They were  once considered to be best team but now they are at level of associate teams.

The England management will have to make some difficult decisions right now for the Test format. Otherwise, they will not be able to easily improve their performance in the test format. England has a good enough squad for the T20 ODI format. But in the test format, they are a bit weak now. Maybe they need to find new talented players. Otherwise, some of their important players will have to be sent to rest for their peace of mind. Now if they don't send their important players to rest, we will not see a better performance from them in the upcoming World Cup.

[blatchcorn]

The England management will have to make some difficult decisions right now for the Test format. Otherwise, they will not be able to easily improve their performance in the test format. England has a good enough squad for the T20 ODI format. But in the test format, they are a bit weak now. Maybe they need to find new talented players. Otherwise, some of their important players will have to be sent to rest for their peace of mind. Now if they don't send their important players to rest, we will not see a better performance from them in the upcoming World Cup.

In T20 every team has decent teams be it West Indies, Afghanistan or any other. The point is test is proper cricket format and only seasoned players can perform well in test cricket. ECB has taken right decision by removing Anderson and Broad from test squad, they need such shortlisting in Test also.

[JSRAW]

Told ya.. Windies always play well against the Poms.

Yeah.. never took you seriously at that time. It is difficult to believe actually. West Indies had the home advantage. But they fared poorly against other test nations at home (even against Ireland). So what happened to England? Their bowling was pathetic, but the batting was even worse. So why did the batsmen completely failed in facing a bunch of ordinary looking bowlers from the West Indies? Actually they need to drop some of the useless batsmen rather than kicking out Anderson and Broad from the squad.

They hop on a plane for a Caribbean and get belted by home team every single time. Some draw series here n there, otherwise result always end up in Windies favor. Windies also return favor when they go to England.

There are many reason for this epic meltdown. Leadership is main one. English team is going back to their 90's phase but this time they also have one bad captain. He's having great time with the bat and very likable guy but i've to say poor joe is shitty captain and not inspiring the team in any possible way. Atm there are lot of chatters regarding new captain and coach.

Domestic setup is also creating more trouble than solution. They are not creating good pitches for county, focus is on only seam friendly track, where 130 kmph bowlers bully everyone, virtually no assistance for the spinners (if any club tries to create spin track they punish them with negative points). Result no quality players for the internationals fixtures, all they can do is play competitive cricket at home but when it comes to overseas they shit their bed.

Last 17 match, only 1 win.

 

[Minor Miner]

Yeah.. never took you seriously at that time. It is difficult to believe actually. West Indies had the home advantage. But they fared poorly against other test nations at home (even against Ireland). So what happened to England? Their bowling was pathetic, but the batting was even worse. So why did the batsmen completely failed in facing a bunch of ordinary looking bowlers from the West Indies? Actually they need to drop some of the useless batsmen rather than kicking out Anderson and Broad from the squad.

They hop on a plane for a Caribbean and get belted by home team every single time. Some draw series here n there, otherwise result always end up in Windies favor. Windies also return favor when they go to England.
There are many reason for this epic meltdown. Leadership is main one. English team is going back to their 90's phase but this time they also have one bad captain. He's having great time with the bat and very likable guy but i've to say poor joe is shitty captain and not inspiring the team in any possible way. Atm there are lot of chatters regarding new captain and coach.
Domestic setup is also creating more trouble than solution. They are not creating good pitches for county, focus is on only seam friendly track, where 130 kmph bowlers bully everyone, virtually no assistance for the spinners (if any club tries to create spin track they punish them with negative points). Result no quality players for the internationals fixtures, all they can do is play competitive cricket at home but when it comes to overseas they shit their bed.
Last 17 match, only 1 win.

There are certain problems in the England cricket team and it is quite visible after the loss against West Indies. They should really be able to beat a team like West Indies in test format because West Indies is not known for their test cricket. At least not in this era.

What I am worried about is if this is their result against West Indies what will happen if they face Australia in the ashes. And this certainly goes back to the England cricket board giving a lot more importance to limited-overs cricket.

[coinism]

There are certain problems in the England cricket team and it is quite visible after the loss against West Indies. They should really be able to beat a team like West Indies in test format because West Indies is not known for their test cricket. At least not in this era.

What I am worried about is if this is their result against West Indies what will happen if they face Australia in the ashes. And this certainly goes back to the England cricket board giving a lot more importance to limited-overs cricket.

We have just seen England facing Australia in Ashes and results are drastic. England just manage to survive a 5/0 whitewash as one of test match was draw. I think it's also good to see team like West Indies performing good in Test, although I don't think West Indies can repeat such performance against top teams like Australia,   New Zealand or Pakistan but still its a healthy sign that WI have some spark in the team.

[ibuddy122505]

we're heading into first test between South Africa and Bangladesh. Bangladesh test captain Mominul who have won the toss and decide to bowl first. Sadly the majority of the SA's star players are not playing in this test series due to their IPL commitment. Bangladeshi ODI skippers Tamim, Shakib, Shoriful, Mustafiz, Mahmudullah all went missing from the squad. Still I'm expecting for good and competitive match from both sides.

[Swordsoffreedom]

South Africa vs Bangladesh

The first Test match between South Africa and Bangladesh is being held today. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. And at the end of 14 overs, South Africa collected 60 runs, without losing a wicket. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. So if you want to win the match, the bowlers must play well.

Despite winning the ODI series against South Africa, it does not look like Bangladesh will win the Test match. South Africa is much more experienced in the Test format than Bangladesh. It will not be difficult for South Africa to defeat Bangladesh.

[blatchcorn]

South Africa vs Bangladesh

The first Test match between South Africa and Bangladesh is being held today. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. And at the end of 14 overs, South Africa collected 60 runs, without losing a wicket. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. So if you want to win the match, the bowlers must play well.

Despite winning the ODI series against South Africa, it does not look like Bangladesh will win the Test match. South Africa is much more experienced in the Test format than Bangladesh. It will not be difficult for South Africa to defeat Bangladesh.

For a team of Bangladesh level its enough to win ODI series and that too in SA. We can't say they are not capable of winning test in SA. SA lost ODI series since most of there players are busy in IPL, same is true for SA Test squad. Due to iPL international cricket of many countries are suffering since players prefer ipl over national duty.

[JSRAW]

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Last 17 match, only 1 win.

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They already lost the Ashes 4-0

Surprisingly skipper Joe and interim coach Collingwood thinks that recent windies tour was very positive for the team. I hope they are not saying this because they didn't lose series by 3-0 margin or final tally was 1-0 so there is some improvement lol.

South Africa vs Bangladesh

The first Test match between South Africa and Bangladesh is being held today. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. And at the end of 14 overs, South Africa collected 60 runs, without losing a wicket. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. So if you want to win the match, the bowlers must play well.

Despite winning the ODI series against South Africa, it does not look like Bangladesh will win the Test match. South Africa is much more experienced in the Test format than Bangladesh. It will not be difficult for South Africa to defeat Bangladesh.

Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?

Shakib still missing from the test squad. 

[onecall123]

South Africa vs Bangladesh

The first Test match between South Africa and Bangladesh is being held today. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. And at the end of 14 overs, South Africa collected 60 runs, without losing a wicket. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. So if you want to win the match, the bowlers must play well.

Despite winning the ODI series against South Africa, it does not look like Bangladesh will win the Test match. South Africa is much more experienced in the Test format than Bangladesh. It will not be difficult for South Africa to defeat Bangladesh.

After day 1 of South Africa's first test against Bangladesh, Elgar and Erwee gave the hosts a big boost, and Bavuma's half-century helped the hosts achieve 233/4 in Durban. After taking three wickets in the afternoon session, Bangladesh managed to get only one wicket the rest of the day. Bangladeshi bowlers will have a hard time tomorrow, regardless of whether they bowled them out early or not. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

[7788bitcoin]

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Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?

Shakib still missing from the test squad. 

If Shakib Al Hasan is in the team then i would say that Bangladesh have a chance to compete against South Africa. Before placing the bet i would have waited and see the team they are picking and just now noticed that they are not playing their premium bowlers and the bowlers right now in the team are unknown to me. I still think that South Africa will be able to win the match unless we otherwise from the Bangladesh batsman.

[Mahdirakib]

Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?
Shakib still missing from the test squad. 

Bangladesh isn't playing with their full power as well. Their key players Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan aren't available for the first test match. Tamim isn't in the squad for his illness and Shakib isn't available for his family illness. I don't think Bangladesh team having the advantages in the match for the second string team of South Africa. Anyway, both Tamim and Shakib may join in the playing squad in the second test match.

[JSRAW]

Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?
Shakib still missing from the test squad. 

Bangladesh isn't playing with their full power as well. Their key players Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan aren't available for the first test match. Tamim isn't in the squad for his illness and Shakib isn't available for his family illness. I don't think Bangladesh team having the advantages in the match for the second string team of South Africa. Anyway, both Tamim and Shakib may join in the playing squad in the second test match.

It wasn't due to availability tho, Tamim Iqbal was not fit for the match (that's what i read from the team announcement). Shakib case is completely different. So Bongbandhus going with weaker batting lineup intentionally sounds bogus argument imo and i'm being respectful here.

Proteas has home advantage despite playing with second string team (They are not weak at home against Ban at all) but if i'm being honest then i want Bongs to win or at least draw the match or series.

[Minor Miner]

Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?
Shakib still missing from the test squad. 

Bangladesh isn't playing with their full power as well. Their key players Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan aren't available for the first test match. Tamim isn't in the squad for his illness and Shakib isn't available for his family illness. I don't think Bangladesh team having the advantages in the match for the second string team of South Africa. Anyway, both Tamim and Shakib may join in the playing squad in the second test match.

On the South African pitch, did you think a team like Bangladesh would play well against them? Bangladesh is one of the most inexperienced teams in the Test format. Bangladesh is good enough in the ODI format and often they surprise us. But in the Test format they are very weak, lacking experience in both batting and bowling. Moreover, experienced players like Tamim and Shakib are not in the squad. Even if they were in the squad, Bangladesh will not win the Test match against South Africa.

[Juggy777]

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Proteas fielding their second string team in this series so may be Bangbros has some chance here, winning the test might be a tough task but there is a possibility of draw?
Shakib still missing from the test squad.  

Bangladesh isn't playing with their full power as well. Their key players Tamim Iqbal and Shakib Al Hasan aren't available for the first test match. Tamim isn't in the squad for his illness and Shakib isn't available for his family illness. I don't think Bangladesh team having the advantages in the match for the second string team of South Africa. Anyway, both Tamim and Shakib may join in the playing squad in the second test match.

On the South African pitch, did you think a team like Bangladesh would play well against them? Bangladesh is one of the most inexperienced teams in the Test format. Bangladesh is good enough in the ODI format and often they surprise us. But in the Test format they are very weak, lacking experience in both batting and bowling. Moreover, experienced players like Tamim and Shakib are not in the squad. Even if they were in the squad, Bangladesh will not win the Test match against South Africa.

I thought that South Africa would score lots of runs easily, but at end of day one they have scored just 233 runs for the loss of 4 wickets. Furthermore South Africa will definitely have the home advantage, and if their batsmen can post a huge total then we’ll see Bangladesh crumble under pressure and eventually lose the match.

[galambo]

I thought that South Africa would score lots of runs easily, but at end of day one they have scored just 233 runs for the loss of 4 wickets. Furthermore South Africa will definitely have the home advantage, and if their batsmen can post a huge total then we’ll see Bangladesh crumble under pressure and eventually lose the match.

SA deserve  to lose test series to Bangladesh as there major players including Marco Jansen, Aiden Markram, Lungi Ngidi, Kagiso Rabada and Rassie van der Dussen prefer IPL over this test series. SA have a good home record against Asian teams but they lost ODI series to Bangladesh. Still SA board has no hesitation in releasing players for IPL over test series, if money is preference then you shouldn't he worry about such series results.

[Minor Miner]

I thought that South Africa would score lots of runs easily, but at end of day one they have scored just 233 runs for the loss of 4 wickets. Furthermore South Africa will definitely have the home advantage, and if their batsmen can post a huge total then we’ll see Bangladesh crumble under pressure and eventually lose the match.

My guess is that by the end of the first day, South Africa might have collected more than 280. But at the end of the first day, they scored 233 runs in 76.5 overs. If they manage to collect around 450 then South Africa will be able to control the match completely. But if they lose all their wickets before 350, then Bangladesh will have ample opportunity to draw or win the match. If South Africa can play well in today's first session, they will be able to collect more than 400 easily.

[coinism]

My guess is that by the end of the first day, South Africa might have collected more than 280. But at the end of the first day, they scored 233 runs in 76.5 overs. If they manage to collect around 450 then South Africa will be able to control the match completely. But if they lose all their wickets before 350, then Bangladesh will have ample opportunity to draw or win the match. If South Africa can play well in today's first session, they will be able to collect more than 400 easily.

South Africa had a good opening stand of 117 runs and at that moment it looks like on stumps South Africa will easily cross 250. But they lost 4 wickets in quick intervals and that's why they concluded day 1 on 233. Still they are not in very bad situation, if they can score 350 or more they will be very much in the game..