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June 19, 2023, 12:39:45 PM
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Joe Root is batting responsibly. However, England lost the wicket of Ollie Pope earlier in the day. England's collection of 97 runs after losing 3 wickets in 20 overs. England lead by 104 runs. .
Joe Root and Harry Brooks should build a long partnership. If you want to win against Australia, you have to give a target of at least 350 runs. However, the game continues today on the fourth day. If England bats for the full day today, the chances of a draw will increase. And so if England's target is to win, they have to bat carefully, and definitely at a good run rate.

England have lost 2 more wickets this morning and there lead at the moment is 137 runs. Its very clear now that England will play aggressively and will let Australia bat for a last day. Brook is not out on 36(28) along with Stokes who just stepped in. I would say its a bold decision from England to go aggressively against mighty Aussies pace attack. England need to be careful also as they can lose more wickets in rush of scoring runs quickly. The field is wet and will favour bowlers.
Launch break, Eng 155/5
After losing Brook wickets, Bairstow came in and survived a dramatic last over before the lunch break. For England to win, they must play with caution while still being aggressive, aiming for a lead of 250-300 runs. If they don't achieve this target, then Australia are favorites. Both Stokes and Bairstow needed to take more responsibility and score more runs to put England in a better position.
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June 19, 2023, 12:54:50 PM
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For England to win, they must play with caution while still being aggressive, aiming for a lead of 250-300 runs. If they don't achieve this target, then Australia are favorites. Both Stokes and Bairstow needed to take more responsibility and score more runs to put England in a better position.
250-300 is too small for the Australians. They should post a target above 300 if they want to win, but I don't think that's going to happen since Stokes has been out of form for a long time and Bairstow can only do so much by himself.

They will probably end up scoring something close to 230 something which would be a below par score making it easy for the Australians.

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June 19, 2023, 01:32:43 PM
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For England to win, they must play with caution while still being aggressive, aiming for a lead of 250-300 runs. If they don't achieve this target, then Australia are favorites. Both Stokes and Bairstow needed to take more responsibility and score more runs to put England in a better position.
In my opinion, The Bowler will rule in this match because England already in a very critical situation and Australian bowlers are doing good. So Bet Stokes and Bairstow have to play a vital role by making a good partnership. Australia and England both are playing effectively and I think Australia now has a bigger chance to win this match. As they already took the vital 5 wickets, So England's bowers have to put more effort in the next Innings.
And Now the Score is 196/5 for England.
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June 19, 2023, 02:10:08 PM
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For England to win, they must play with caution while still being aggressive, aiming for a lead of 250-300 runs. If they don't achieve this target, then Australia are favorites. Both Stokes and Bairstow needed to take more responsibility and score more runs to put England in a better position.
In my opinion, The Bowler will rule in this match because England already in a very critical situation and Australian bowlers are doing good. So Bet Stokes and Bairstow have to play a vital role by making a good partnership. Australia and England both are playing effectively and I think Australia now has a bigger chance to win this match. As they already took the vital 5 wickets, So England's bowers have to put more effort in the next Innings.
And Now the Score is 196/5 for England.
England is struggling hard as the wickets keep falling at regular interval without much partnership being built between players. England have scored 215/7, with 3 wickets left England need another 150 runs to keep its hope of winning the match. Australia bowlers were in good form, Lyon and Cummins have took 3 wickets each. England declared the first innings, maybe if they've continued the first innings might've got little more runs. The match is going to be so close between the two, but we can't be sure who wins the match.

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June 19, 2023, 02:18:40 PM
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In my opinion, The Bowler will rule in this match because England already in a very critical situation and Australian bowlers are doing good. So Bet Stokes and Bairstow have to play a vital role by making a good partnership. Australia and England both are playing effectively and I think Australia now has a bigger chance to win this match. As they already took the vital 5 wickets, So England's bowers have to put more effort in the next Innings.
And Now the Score is 196/5 for England.
England is struggling hard as the wickets keep falling at regular interval without much partnership being built between players. England have scored 215/7, with 3 wickets left England need another 150 runs to keep its hope of winning the match. Australia bowlers were in good form, Lyon and Cummins have took 3 wickets each. England declared the first innings, maybe if they've continued the first innings might've got little more runs. The match is going to be so close between the two, but we can't be sure who wins the match.
Today from the start of play Australia is having well control on the game and England is having pressure due to lost of quick wickets right now things completely out of way for the England team because we have injured Moeen Ali and Robinson at the crease with two veteran bowlers are left if Australia take these wickets quickly then surely they will be in pool position and take lead in this series.

Pat Cummins and Nathan Lyon both take six wickets out of seven, with just Root and Stokes able to have some good runs on board for the home team look like Bazball thing gone in the wrong way for them in the first match of The Ashes.

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June 19, 2023, 02:26:27 PM
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For England to win, they must play with caution while still being aggressive, aiming for a lead of 250-300 runs. If they don't achieve this target, then Australia are favorites. Both Stokes and Bairstow needed to take more responsibility and score more runs to put England in a better position.
250-300 is too small for the Australians. They should post a target above 300 if they want to win, but I don't think that's going to happen since Stokes has been out of form for a long time and Bairstow can only do so much by himself.

They will probably end up scoring something close to 230 something which would be a below par score making it easy for the Australians.
Yes it is true that giving a target below 300 runs will definitely make it much easier for Australia but in some cases giving a target below 300 runs will make it somewhat difficult for Australia. Generally Sometimes cannot bat at too many targets in the second innings. In this case, the ball gets variations on the pitch, moreover, if the game is temporarily stopped due to rain disruption, then there is a possibility of wicket disaster if you come down to bat after the rain. But so far England has given Australia a target of 235 runs, if England can bat a bit in the third session, the target will be above 250 runs, if the target of 250 runs is not too difficult.

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June 19, 2023, 02:30:44 PM
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250-300 is too small for the Australians. They should post a target above 300 if they want to win, but I don't think that's going to happen since Stokes has been out of form for a long time and Bairstow can only do so much by himself.

They will probably end up scoring something close to 230 something which would be a below par score making it easy for the Australians.
I failed to understand why England declared their 1st innings while they had two wickets in hand and had an opportunity to score a few more runs. I did not watch the match, so I don't know if there was someone injured who could not bat. If not, then maybe they thought this run was enough already. Right now, England has 236 runs lead (while I am writing), which doesn't look good. The 4th-day 2nd session is running. So, I don't see any chance this match can be drawn. Moen Ali was the only batter who could add a few more runs. But he is out now and walking to the pavilion. Now it seems the Aussies will have less than 250 to score to win the match.

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England is struggling hard as the wickets keep falling at regular interval without much partnership being built between players. England have scored 215/7, with 3 wickets left England need another 150 runs to keep its hope of winning the match. Australia bowlers were in good form, Lyon and Cummins have took 3 wickets each. England declared the first innings, maybe if they've continued the first innings might've got little more runs. The match is going to be so close between the two, but we can't be sure who wins the match.
Today from the start of play Australia is having well control on the game and England is having pressure due to lost of quick wickets right now things completely out of way for the England team because we have injured Moeen Ali and Robinson at the crease with two veteran bowlers are left if Australia take these wickets quickly then surely they will be in pool position and take lead in this series.

Pat Cummins and Nathan Lyon both take six wickets out of seven, with just Root and Stokes able to have some good runs on board for the home team look like Bazball thing gone in the wrong way for them in the first match of The Ashes.

I don’t think England is going to win this match. Unless they play out the whole fourth day. And they also give Australia a target of more than 300 and Australia starts their innings at the start of the fifth day or even after that. I think England will have to play on the fourth day and also start on the fifth day and play for at least 10 overs. Otherwise, Australia is always going to have enough time to win. 300 is easily achievable in a day for a team like Australia. The catch is England only have two wickets in hand right now. And the lead is  251.

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June 19, 2023, 03:10:31 PM
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Some might say that Poms are at a disadvantage atm but I'd argue, they are still pretty much in the game because anything above or close to 280 won't be an easy chase under overcast conditions.

Also, if we have some rain interruption which is a possibility due to the forecast then it's a tricky situation too. It's difficult to concentrate as a batter when there are multiple breaks so ladies this match is nicely poised for 5th day finish. I just don't want to see a draw.



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June 19, 2023, 03:44:09 PM
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Some might say that Poms are at a disadvantage atm but I'd argue, they are still pretty much in the game because anything above or close to 280 won't be an easy chase under overcast conditions.

Also, if we have some rain interruption which is a possibility due to the forecast then it's a tricky situation too. It's difficult to concentrate as a batter when there are multiple breaks so ladies this match is nicely poised for 5th day finish. I just don't want to see a draw.





280 runs to chase is the best thing Australia can get in this test match. England is a strong team and the way they batted in the first innings, Australians are lucky that they are in a position to win this match. If they can't score 280 in the four sessions, I think they don't deserve this Ashes.

Right now, I will say that that match is in the favor of the Australians. It can turn against them quickly if they lose some quick wickets today.
Ideally, Australians would want not to lose any wickets in the final session today.

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June 19, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
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Some might say that Poms are at a disadvantage atm but I'd argue, they are still pretty much in the game because anything above or close to 280 won't be an easy chase under overcast conditions.

Also, if we have some rain interruption which is a possibility due to the forecast then it's a tricky situation too. It's difficult to concentrate as a batter when there are multiple breaks so ladies this match is nicely poised for 5th day finish. I just don't want to see a draw.

280 runs to chase is the best thing Australia can get in this test match. England is a strong team and the way they batted in the first innings, Australians are lucky that they are in a position to win this match. If they can't score 280 in the four sessions, I think they don't deserve this Ashes.

Right now, I will say that that match is in the favor of the Australians. It can turn against them quickly if they lose some quick wickets today.
Ideally, Australians would want not to lose any wickets in the final session today.
Just for the record they were below average team pre Stokes/McCullum's era. Atm they are doing an exceptional job but i want them to continue with this attitude during the current WTC cycle.

Coming back to match. Yeah, one could argue about Aussie being lucky due to England's first-inning declaration or lazy dismissal today but that's part of Bazball package.

Aussie are slightly ahead due to the current opening start, although Khwaja was lucky af. Having said that all England need is a bit of cloud for just 20 minutes and Cloudson will start his magic lol. Not taunting but Grandpa is too good when clouds are around.  Grin Grin
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June 19, 2023, 04:44:25 PM
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Coming back to match. Yeah, one could argue about Aussie being lucky due to England's first-inning declaration or lazy dismissal today but that's part of Bazball package.

Aussie are slightly ahead due to the current opening start, although Khwaja was lucky af. Having said that all England need is a bit of cloud for just 20 minutes and Cloudson will start his magic lol. Not taunting but Grandpa is too good when clouds are around.  Grin Grin


Warner and Khawaja survived the 13 overs till now and scored 40 runs. Are they still lucky  Huh
 
Look like you want England to win this match at any cost (rain, clouds whatever). Maybe the Indian crowd wants the England team takes revenge for the WTC final defeat from the Australians. In that case, I need to support the Australian team right now  Tongue

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June 19, 2023, 04:44:53 PM
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I am confident that England will lose the first match since that target isn't enough against a team like Australia regardless of the weather condition etc. They could wrap this game up before the final session itself.

England's biggest weakness is that they don't have a game-changing spinner like Lyon, Ashwin etc though Ali has been bowling well recently.

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June 19, 2023, 04:48:09 PM
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Coming back to match. Yeah, one could argue about Aussie being lucky due to England's first-inning declaration or lazy dismissal today but that's part of Bazball package.

Aussie are slightly ahead due to the current opening start, although Khwaja was lucky af. Having said that all England need is a bit of cloud for just 20 minutes and Cloudson will start his magic lol. Not taunting but Grandpa is too good when clouds are around.  Grin Grin
Even I also feel 280 under these conditions never been easy target, but after one hour play as Aussies are playing its looking easy job for them in this first test of this series with many are saying declaration was wrong, but I have feeling they were right in their decision with just their second inning failure hurt them badly even we have good batting from Brook, Root and Stokes but still this was not enough for having target like 300 to 320 which was much better for them with last day and overcast conditions surely have good end of this match.

England need a quality spinner in the absence of Leach as Moeen Ali is giving them not support which they want right now, like the Aussies have from Nathan Lyon in both innings of this test match.
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June 19, 2023, 04:52:57 PM
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Warner and Khawaja survived the 13 overs till now and scored 40 runs. Are they still lucky  Huh
 
Look like you want England to win this match at any cost (rain, clouds whatever). Maybe the Indian crowd wants the England team takes revenge for the WTC final defeat from the Australians. In that case, I need to support the Australian team right now  Tongue

Aussies need 237 more runs to win with 9 wikcets still in hands. At the moment Australia are favorite but anything can happen tomorrow. England played this match like they are playing some T20 or ODI while Australians played this match like the way it should be. In second innings England focus was just to score runs quickly and in that rush they lost wikcets without scoring enough runs.
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June 19, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
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I am confident that England will lose the first match since that target isn't enough against a team like Australia regardless of the weather condition etc. They could wrap this game up before the final session itself.

England's biggest weakness is that they don't have a game-changing spinner like Lyon, Ashwin etc though Ali has been bowling well recently.

Aussie scoring freely now but I still think that the England bowler's final chance will be in the morning session tomorrow. At that time the bowl will be moving and England would need to take 3 or 4 wickets in the morning session. If Australia survives that session, then it will be an easy win and a 1-0 start for the Australians in this Year's Ashes.

On the other hand, getting a lead is always important in an intense series like Ashes and Australia won't be losing grip in this match.

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June 19, 2023, 04:59:51 PM
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The opening partnership is really good for Australia. The big expectation is from Moeen Ali, and with the 57/0 Australia needs another 224 runs to win the match. This is really an easy reachable target, if England have scored same as the first innings then Australia too might've experienced pressure while chasing. Now the pressure is much on England and now the question arises, whether the early declaration on the first innings will cost England loss the first test match of the Ashes.

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June 19, 2023, 05:14:01 PM
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The opening partnership is really good for Australia. The big expectation is from Moeen Ali, and with the 57/0 Australia needs another 224 runs to win the match. This is really an easy reachable target, if England have scored same as the first innings then Australia too might've experienced pressure while chasing. Now the pressure is much on England and now the question arises, whether the early declaration on the first innings will cost England loss the first test match of the Ashes.
Australia have lost its first wicket (Warner-36) and the score have reached 70 runs. Labuschagne have joined with Khawaja, few more wickets falling today will pressure Australia. Looking the way Australia is performing, it is really hard England having winning possibility. Early declaration will surely cost them, even 20-30 runs from those wickets will surely increase the chance and makes the target to be 300+ runs which is something considered as a next barrier than the 20 runs difference.

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June 19, 2023, 05:14:13 PM
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I am confident that England will lose the first match since that target isn't enough against a team like Australia regardless of the weather condition etc. They could wrap this game up before the final session itself.
England's biggest weakness is that they don't have a game-changing spinner like Lyon, Ashwin etc though Ali has been bowling well recently.
Aussie scoring freely now but I still think that the England bowler's final chance will be in the morning session tomorrow. At that time the bowl will be moving and England would need to take 3 or 4 wickets in the morning session. If Australia survives that session, then it will be an easy win and a 1-0 start for the Australians in this Year's Ashes.
On the other hand, getting a lead is always important in an intense series like Ashes and Australia won't be losing grip in this match.

England set a target of 281 runs. But I thought England would give a target of more than 300. A target of 350 would have been easy for England to win the match. But the target of 281 runs is not enough to win.

Australian batsmen are batting very well. They collected 61 runs in the first wicket pair. Warner returned to the dressing room with 36 runs. Usman Khawaja is batting very responsibly in the second innings as well. Australian batsmen are quite experienced. However, the outcome of the match will depend on the performance of the first session tomorrow. Staying at the crease and scoring runs is tough in the first session.

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June 19, 2023, 05:28:14 PM
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I am confident that England will lose the first match since that target isn't enough against a team like Australia regardless of the weather condition etc. They could wrap this game up before the final session itself.
England's biggest weakness is that they don't have a game-changing spinner like Lyon, Ashwin etc though Ali has been bowling well recently.
Aussie scoring freely now but I still think that the England bowler's final chance will be in the morning session tomorrow. At that time the bowl will be moving and England would need to take 3 or 4 wickets in the morning session. If Australia survives that session, then it will be an easy win and a 1-0 start for the Australians in this Year's Ashes.
On the other hand, getting a lead is always important in an intense series like Ashes and Australia won't be losing grip in this match.

England set a target of 281 runs. But I thought England would give a target of more than 300. A target of 350 would have been easy for England to win the match. But the target of 281 runs is not enough to win.

Australian batsmen are batting very well. They collected 61 runs in the first wicket pair. Warner returned to the dressing room with 36 runs. Usman Khawaja is batting very responsibly in the second innings as well. Australian batsmen are quite experienced. However, the outcome of the match will depend on the performance of the first session tomorrow. Staying at the crease and scoring runs is tough in the first session.
Match is getting more interesting as Australia have lost the second wicket. Khawaja as usual does his role, earlier Warner lost his wicket to Robinson and now Labuschagne have lost his wicket to Stuart Board. Both the wickets were caught by Bairstow. We can see the Australia into pressure as the team surely have the plan of ending the day without any wicket fall. Already two wickets fallen and the final day's opening session will have few wickets. Same as the first match id they allow Khawaja to score then this is going to be difficult for England to record its win.

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