Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[mindrust]

see for yourself why they don't have high Covid numbers - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01337-2

Since when do we trust the numbers the states release? I don't trust any of these numbers high or low it doesn't matter. In India, from December/2020 to April/2021, there were only 1M new cases and in 1 month it went up by 100% to over 20M. Does this look normal to you? What has changed?

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[af_newbie]

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The spike protein by itself is harmless.

Sounds good on paper, but almost certainly not true:

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

That one of the links from this segment:  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/spike-protein-covid-vaccines-putting-you-aserious-risk-according-science/ most of which concerns the title topic.

Hey dipshit, the mRNA in vaccines is injected into muscles, it ends up in muscle cell ribosomes which produce spike proteins.  These spike proteins CANNOT get out of muscle cells, they are broken up by proteasomes.  The broken-up slices of the spike proteins are picked up by MHCs and eventually presented on the surface of the cell.  The cells are then destroyed by the immune system.

When you are infected with covid-19 and your immune system is unable to defend, the virus replicates uncontrollably, producing a large number of copies, and those copies blind to ACE2 receptors causing organ damage by interfering with blood delivery.

Getting infected by the covid-19 virus can lead to long-term organ damage and/or death.  That is what your article is talking about.

mRNA vaccines work very well.  Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

[BADecker]

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The spike protein by itself is harmless.

Sounds good on paper, but almost certainly not true:

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

That one of the links from this segment:  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/spike-protein-covid-vaccines-putting-you-aserious-risk-according-science/ most of which concerns the title topic.

Hey dipshit, the mRNA in vaccines is injected into muscles, it ends up in muscle cell ribosomes which produce spike proteins.  These spike proteins CANNOT get out of muscle cells, they are broken up by proteasomes.  The broken-up slices of the spike proteins are picked up by MHCs and eventually presented on the surface of the cell.  The cells are then destroyed by the immune system.

When you are infected with covid-19 and your immune system is unable to defend, the virus replicates uncontrollably, producing a large number of copies, and those copies blind to ACE2 receptors causing organ damage by interfering with blood delivery.

Getting infected by the covid-19 virus can lead to long-term organ damage and/or death.  That is what your article is talking about.

mRNA vaccines work very well.  Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Hey, ding-dong. Are you trying to tell us that all of the vaccines in the last who-knows-how-many years, that have been injected into the muscles, all stayed there and never went anywhere else in the body?

Mwahahahahahaha!

[af_newbie]

...
The spike protein by itself is harmless.

Sounds good on paper, but almost certainly not true:

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

That one of the links from this segment:  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/spike-protein-covid-vaccines-putting-you-aserious-risk-according-science/ most of which concerns the title topic.

Hey dipshit, the mRNA in vaccines is injected into muscles, it ends up in muscle cell ribosomes which produce spike proteins.  These spike proteins CANNOT get out of muscle cells, they are broken up by proteasomes.  The broken-up slices of the spike proteins are picked up by MHCs and eventually presented on the surface of the cell.  The cells are then destroyed by the immune system.

When you are infected with covid-19 and your immune system is unable to defend, the virus replicates uncontrollably, producing a large number of copies, and those copies blind to ACE2 receptors causing organ damage by interfering with blood delivery.

Getting infected by the covid-19 virus can lead to long-term organ damage and/or death.  That is what your article is talking about.

mRNA vaccines work very well.  Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Hey, ding-dong. Are you trying to tell us that all of the vaccines in the last who-knows-how-many years, that have been injected into the muscles, all stayed there and never went anywhere else in the body?

Mwahahahahahaha!

Hey Jesus freak, I am telling you how the mRNA vaccine works.  Don't deflect.

Stop spreading misinformation.  Both of you.

[BADecker]

...
The spike protein by itself is harmless.

Sounds good on paper, but almost certainly not true:

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

That one of the links from this segment:  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/spike-protein-covid-vaccines-putting-you-aserious-risk-according-science/ most of which concerns the title topic.

Hey dipshit, the mRNA in vaccines is injected into muscles, it ends up in muscle cell ribosomes which produce spike proteins.  These spike proteins CANNOT get out of muscle cells, they are broken up by proteasomes.  The broken-up slices of the spike proteins are picked up by MHCs and eventually presented on the surface of the cell.  The cells are then destroyed by the immune system.

When you are infected with covid-19 and your immune system is unable to defend, the virus replicates uncontrollably, producing a large number of copies, and those copies blind to ACE2 receptors causing organ damage by interfering with blood delivery.

Getting infected by the covid-19 virus can lead to long-term organ damage and/or death.  That is what your article is talking about.

mRNA vaccines work very well.  Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Hey, ding-dong. Are you trying to tell us that all of the vaccines in the last who-knows-how-many years, that have been injected into the muscles, all stayed there and never went anywhere else in the body?

Mwahahahahahaha!

Hey Jesus freak, I am telling you how the mRNA vaccine works.  Don't deflect.

Stop spreading misinformation.  Both of you.

Ever hear of blood pumping throughout the whole system of the body?... including the muscles? So you think that the protein spikes on the mRNA anchor it to one spot in the muscles, while the spikes on Covid allow it to run freely throughout the body?

Ding-dong density.

But you are a little correct. When the mRNA hangs on to one spot in certain people for a little longer stretch of time, they don't get sick and die as fast. And it takes them longer to become super-spreaders of Covid.

It's all part of the strategy to make it look like there are only 4,000 vaccine dead out of millions.

[Gyfts]

see for yourself why they don't have high Covid numbers - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01337-2

Since when do we trust the numbers the states release? I don't trust any of these numbers high or low it doesn't matter. In India, from December/2020 to April/2021, there were only 1M new cases and in 1 month it went up by 100% to over 20M. Does this look normal to you? What has changed?

We only can rely on the data if the data is produced.

So for India, there is no national testing programs so their numbers remained artificially low. If people get the virus and don't get tested, their positive case isn't entered into some database, and we don't have any numbers to work with. For Israel, given the fact they are keeping tracks of how many jabs they're giving out, we have data to work with. Sure, we are "trusting" them, to an extent, but we don't have much else to rely on.

[af_newbie]

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The spike protein by itself is harmless.

Sounds good on paper, but almost certainly not true:

https://www.templehealth.org/about/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-the-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-of-neurological-damage-in-covid-19-patients

That one of the links from this segment:  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/spike-protein-covid-vaccines-putting-you-aserious-risk-according-science/ most of which concerns the title topic.

Hey dipshit, the mRNA in vaccines is injected into muscles, it ends up in muscle cell ribosomes which produce spike proteins.  These spike proteins CANNOT get out of muscle cells, they are broken up by proteasomes.  The broken-up slices of the spike proteins are picked up by MHCs and eventually presented on the surface of the cell.  The cells are then destroyed by the immune system.

When you are infected with covid-19 and your immune system is unable to defend, the virus replicates uncontrollably, producing a large number of copies, and those copies blind to ACE2 receptors causing organ damage by interfering with blood delivery.

Getting infected by the covid-19 virus can lead to long-term organ damage and/or death.  That is what your article is talking about.

mRNA vaccines work very well.  Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Hey, ding-dong. Are you trying to tell us that all of the vaccines in the last who-knows-how-many years, that have been injected into the muscles, all stayed there and never went anywhere else in the body?

Mwahahahahahaha!

Hey Jesus freak, I am telling you how the mRNA vaccine works.  Don't deflect.

Stop spreading misinformation.  Both of you.

Ever hear of blood pumping throughout the whole system of the body?... including the muscles? So you think that the protein spikes on the mRNA anchor it to one spot in the muscles, while the spikes on Covid allow it to run freely throughout the body?

Ding-dong density.

But you are a little correct. When the mRNA hangs on to one spot in certain people for a little longer stretch of time, they don't get sick and die as fast. And it takes them longer to become super-spreaders of Covid.

It's all part of the strategy to make it look like there are only 4,000 vaccine dead out of millions.

Ok, looks like I have to dumb it down for all you Bronze Age folks:

1. mRNA slice that is in the vaccine gets into a muscle cell and enters the ribosome organelle.
2. Ribosome makes the spike protein.
3. The spike protein produced in step 2. is sliced up by the proteasomes (INSIDE the muscle cell!!!)
4. Sliced spike protein fragments are identified by MHCs and the muscle cell is flagged for destruction on its outside membrane.
5. All flagged cells (with the sliced spike protein fragments inside them) are destroyed by the immune system (including the ribosome with mRNA slice from your vaccine).
6. Your immune system remembers what the spike proteins look like and will destroy any pathogen with a similar structure.

At no point in this process, spike proteins enter the bloodstream.  Well, there might be few molecules that did not get sliced up by the proteasomes at the moment the cell was destroyed by the immune system, but those are cleaned up by the immune system which at this point knows that it is a foreign pathogen.  mRNA slices that enter your body with your vaccine do not replicate.  They are destroyed by the immune system when the flagged cells are destroyed.  The vaccinated people do not have the covid-19 virus, cannot shed the covid-19 virus or its spike protein.  That is just pure nonsese.

The scenario is drastically different when you get infected with the covid-19 virus.  
1. Virus binds to ACE2 receptors on the cell membrane.
2. Virus enters the cell and replicates rapidly inside the cell.
3. Infected cell bursts, and the virus enters the bloodstream and is carried everywhere.
4. Go to step 1, and repeat 1-4

[tvbcof]

My beef isn't with the vaccine directly, but the system that would force this on people.  If you bend over for your shot now (not literally) then you'll likely have us all doing it for the rest of our lives in order to go outside.  I strongly believe it will weaken the human population as a whole.  Like a person who starts using chapstick and finds their lips are dry constantly without it, one day mankind will be dependent upon vaccines to survive if we continue down this path. 

That day passed some time ago.  The WHO recognized it in the same conference that they recognized that they are losing the confidence of the medical profession itself, and also that 'we all know' that full medical doctors got 1/2 a day of training on 'vaccines' in their 8 years of med school and don't know shit about the technology really.  And that was the old technology prior to the re-tooled gene therapy treatments.

It was the same conference when they realized that they have dug the hole you described and only then realized that the shit isn't work.  Not even when they pile on more and more 'boosters'.  Basically you turn someone into a vegetable before you hit the point of 'immunity', and that is only for one possible ailment among thousands.  They don't know whether to shit or go blind!  They seem to be pinning their hopes on gene therapy because they've got nothing else.

Meanwhile the 'unvaxxed' are doing fine and it is becoming increasingly evident.  Since not vaccinating is a non-option due to the way the medical/industrial complex and 'public health' works, they are really desperate.

It is little wonder that it is the 'medical professionals' themselves who are rejecting the covid jabs at the highest rates.  And a fair number of those who didn't have already eaten the big one.

[Tash]

At least some good news. Anyone who will get it got it, the rest will never, no matter what inject the poison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/08/us/us-states-are-turning-down-hundreds-of-thousands-of-doses-as-demand-plummets.html

[BADecker]

Ever hear of blood pumping throughout the whole system of the body?... including the muscles? So you think that the protein spikes on the mRNA anchor it to one spot in the muscles, while the spikes on Covid allow it to run freely throughout the body?

Ding-dong density.

But you are a little correct. When the mRNA hangs on to one spot in certain people for a little longer stretch of time, they don't get sick and die as fast. And it takes them longer to become super-spreaders of Covid.

It's all part of the strategy to make it look like there are only 4,000 vaccine dead out of millions.

Ok, looks like I have to dumb it down for all you Bronze Age folks:

1. mRNA slice that is in the vaccine gets into a muscle cell and enters the ribosome organelle.
2. Ribosome makes the spike protein.
3. The spike protein produced in step 2. is sliced up by the proteasomes (INSIDE the muscle cell!!!)
4. Sliced spike protein fragments are identified by MHCs and the muscle cell is flagged for destruction on its outside membrane.
5. All flagged cells (with the sliced spike protein fragments inside them) are destroyed by the immune system (including the ribosome with mRNA slice from your vaccine).
6. Your immune system remembers what the spike proteins look like and will destroy any pathogen with a similar structure.

At no point in this process, spike proteins enter the bloodstream.  Well, there might be few molecules that did not get sliced up by the proteasomes at the moment the cell was destroyed by the immune system, but those are cleaned up by the immune system which at this point knows that it is a foreign pathogen.  mRNA slices that enter your body with your vaccine do not replicate.  They are destroyed by the immune system when the flagged cells are destroyed.  The vaccinated people do not have the covid-19 virus, cannot shed the covid-19 virus or its spike protein.  That is just pure nonsese.

The scenario is drastically different when you get infected with the covid-19 virus.  
1. Virus binds to ACE2 receptors on the cell membrane.
2. Virus enters the cell and replicates rapidly inside the cell.
3. Infected cell bursts, and the virus enters the bloodstream and is carried everywhere.
4. Go to step 1, and repeat 1-4

Thank you, man. Now we know exactly why we have as many as 400,000 deaths from the vaccine in 4 months in the USA. Good work bro. Lol.

[Tash]

The “experimental” vaccine is in violation of all 10 of the Nuremberg Codes which carry the death penalty for those who seek to violate these International Laws.

The “vaccine” fails to meet the following five requirements to be considered a vaccine and is by definition a medical “experiment” and trial:

Provides immunity to the virus
This is a “leaky” gene therapy that does not provide immunity to Covid and claims to reduce symptoms yet double-vaccinated are now 60% of the patients requiring ER or ICU with covid infections.

Protects recipients from getting the virus
This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

Reduces deaths from the virus infection
This gene-therapy does not reduce deaths from the infection. Double-Vaccinated infected with Covid have also died.

Reduces circulation of the virus
This gene-therapy still permits the spread of the virus as it offers zero immunity to the virus.

Reduces transmission of the virus
This gene-therapy still permits the transmission of the virus as it offers zero immunity to the virus.

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/05/07/covid-fraud-lawyers-medical-experts-start-legal-proceedings-against-w-h-o-and-world-leaders-for-crimes-against-humanity/

If you have been affected by this crime, report the event, persons involved, and as much detail to the following website:
https://www.securewhistleblower.com/

[Mauser]

Finally got my vaccine appointment for Wednesday this week. I am one of the last ones of my family to get the vaccine. So far everything went well but I am still a bit scared. Had to sign a form that people died from the vaccine and I need to be aware of the risks. If something happens there is no way my family can sue and get some cash. Kind of sad. Wish me luck guys.

[af_newbie]

Finally got my vaccine appointment for Wednesday this week. I am one of the last ones of my family to get the vaccine. So far everything went well but I am still a bit scared. Had to sign a form that people died from the vaccine and I need to be aware of the risks. If something happens there is no way my family can sue and get some cash. Kind of sad. Wish me luck guys.

You will be fine.  Unless you have an auto-immune disorder or are allergic to any ingredients you will be fine.

Which one are you getting?

[af_newbie]

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Protects recipients from getting the virus
This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

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mRNA vaccine is not gene therapy.  

No vaccine protects the recipients from getting the virus.  Vaccines improve the immune response when you get the virus.

Only PPE, physical isolation can reduce exposure and in some cases completely protects you from getting the virus.

[BADecker]

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Protects recipients from getting the virus
This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

...

mRNA vaccine is not gene therapy.  

No vaccine protects the recipients from getting the virus.  Vaccines improve the immune response when you get the virus.

Only PPE, physical isolation can reduce exposure and in some cases completely protects you from getting the virus.

Right! No vaccine. Simply a genetic manipulation serum.

[af_newbie]

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Protects recipients from getting the virus
This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

...

mRNA vaccine is not gene therapy.  

No vaccine protects the recipients from getting the virus.  Vaccines improve the immune response when you get the virus.

Only PPE, physical isolation can reduce exposure and in some cases completely protects you from getting the virus.

Right! No vaccine. Simply a genetic manipulation serum.

You should be taking the covid-19 vaccine because it will protect you from getting serious long-term organ damage or failure when you do get infected with the virus.

You simply do not understand what the vaccine is and how the immune system actually works.

[BADecker]

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Protects recipients from getting the virus
This gene-therapy does not provide immunity and double-vaccinated can still catch and spread the virus.

...

mRNA vaccine is not gene therapy.  

No vaccine protects the recipients from getting the virus.  Vaccines improve the immune response when you get the virus.

Only PPE, physical isolation can reduce exposure and in some cases completely protects you from getting the virus.

Right! No vaccine. Simply a genetic manipulation serum.

You should be taking the covid-19 vaccine because it will protect you from getting serious long-term organ damage or failure when you do get infected with the virus.

You simply do not understand what the vaccine is and how the immune system actually works.

You have taken the so-called covid-19 vaccine because somebody talked you into it. It will more-or-less genetically modify you to become the virus. When you are dead, you absolutely are protected from getting serious long-term organ damage or failure.

[Mauser]

Finally got my vaccine appointment for Wednesday this week. I am one of the last ones of my family to get the vaccine. So far everything went well but I am still a bit scared. Had to sign a form that people died from the vaccine and I need to be aware of the risks. If something happens there is no way my family can sue and get some cash. Kind of sad. Wish me luck guys.

You will be fine.  Unless you have an auto-immune disorder or are allergic to any ingredients you will be fine.

Which one are you getting?

I am getting the AstraZeneca one. Thanks buddy, it is all about remaining positive I think.  It just makes me a bit cautious when reading about all the possible side effects and most of the news just focus on the bad things that happen after the vaccine. At least I am getting 1 day off work 

[Lordhermes]

The Covid-19 virus vaccines are meant to protect us from the virus. India is known for producing the larger vaccine, but India recorded the highest Covid-19 cases in one day. It is also rumored  how people who took the vaccines died. I don't trust the vaccines, because it don't seem to protect us from getting the virus. I very scared of taking the vaccines.

[franky1]

The Covid-19 virus vaccines are meant to protect us from the virus. India is known for producing the larger vaccine, but India recorded the highest Covid-19 cases in one day. It is also rumored  how people who took the vaccines died. I don't trust the vaccines, because it don't seem to protect us from getting the virus. I very scared of taking the vaccines.

india has a population of over 1billion
but vaccines 'effectivenes' of first dose means that working back. only 50mill doses given
that is under 5% of population

maybe try to learn about how numbers work. and dont think a while population is protected because 5% had the vaccine

as for the rumours that all vaccinated people die..
well in america 150mill had the vaccine and the population number has not halved
wake up. and stop reading rumours. actually do some checks

if your not even interested in researching a topic. dont get involved