Showdown: Trump Vs Haley. Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[boyptc]

He's already being blamed for pulling out the troops there. But the Afghanistan government have 20 years long to stand on their own with the help of the US.

But the reason why the pulling off happened is due to that they've not even helping themselves for that long.

He is not being blamed for "pulling out". He is getting blamed because he pulled out without any concrete plan. He was sleeping until the last minute and when Taliban conquered Kabul, hundreds of thousands of people who had to be evacuated (including US citizens) were stuck there. Once Kabul came under their control, the Taliban conducted house-to-house raids and executed many of these people. And the US armed forces left all of their valuable equipment such as military helicopters and humvees at the hands of the terrorists. 

The government that has reigned for 20 years is also at its accountability. The troops were there but they didn't do good and eradicated those terrorists.

Too sad what's happening there.

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[Sithara007]

Biden is a very old man... 

However, he is one of those people who can live for more than 100 years.  He has learned a lot in his life.  In particular, he learned to avoid stress and not react to little things.  During the day, he will sleep more and more, but he will not leave the post of US President.  He is a politician of the old formation.  Such people do not give up power so easily. 

Thus, Kamala Harris will get a chance to become the President of the United States no earlier than 2024. 

Ivanka does not yet look like a promising candidate for the US presidency. 

However, she still has time to prove herself as a promising candidate for the US presidency.  Donald Trump will help her in this. 

And the history of the United States knows many examples of family dynasties of US presidents.

I am not sure whether Donald Trump or Ivanka would consider running for POTUS 2024. If they do, then it will be a big mistake. If Kamala is the Democrat nominee (which is 99% probable), then there will be a lot of moderate voters who would not vote for her. In order to attract these votes, the GOP needs someone like DeSantis or Pence. Donald and Ivanka would make these people stay at home. Trump will be 78 years at the time of next presidential election. I don't think that the US voters would prefer to have another president in his 80s.

[bryant.coleman]

Unlikely to be a Biden-Harris in 2024, isn't Joe Biden around 90 years old already? So what's a more exciting game would probably predicting who's going to be the next candidate besides the current regime.

Joe Biden is not going to go for re-election in 2024. In all probability, it is going to be Kamala Harris. Even in 2020, there were rumors of some sort of a deal between Biden and Kamala. The latter would support former's candidature in 2020, and in return Biden will endorse Kamala in 2024. But getting elected as the POTUS is going to be tough for Kamala. Biden was able to attract moderate vote, but Kamal won't be able to do that due to her radical leftist policies. But changing demography gives her some sort of advantage.

[slaman29]

I am not sure whether Donald Trump or Ivanka would consider running for POTUS 2024. If they do, then it will be a big mistake. If Kamala is the Democrat nominee (which is 99% probable), then there will be a lot of moderate voters who would not vote for her. In order to attract these votes, the GOP needs someone like DeSantis or Pence. Donald and Ivanka would make these people stay at home. Trump will be 78 years at the time of next presidential election. I don't think that the US voters would prefer to have another president in his 80s.

Well, if you told me before Trump ran for president that he would, I wouldn't ever have believed it. I didn't understand American politics until that time though, which is part of why US presidency is so amazing. That anyone can run, and anyone can win.

Kamala looks like a sure thing but I actually think she won't win if she runs, as you said because moderate votes will win the next election.

[hello_good_sir]

Unlikely to be a Biden-Harris in 2024, isn't Joe Biden around 90 years old already? So what's a more exciting game would probably predicting who's going to be the next candidate besides the current regime.

Joe Biden is not going to go for re-election in 2024. In all probability, it is going to be Kamala Harris. Even in 2020, there were rumors of some sort of a deal between Biden and Kamala. The latter would support former's candidature in 2020, and in return Biden will endorse Kamala in 2024. But getting elected as the POTUS is going to be tough for Kamala. Biden was able to attract moderate vote, but Kamal won't be able to do that due to her radical leftist policies. But changing demography gives her some sort of advantage.

For sure.

I don't think that there is any chance that Biden would run again - he is simply too senile at this point.

Kamala is clearly positioned to be the next president if you think about it. Just as Biden rubbed off of Obama's popularity, Kamala is going to be seen as more competent simply because of her involvement in the Biden administration.

[Sithara007]

Oh, so that's how they're going to do things now. I agree that Harris will have a hard time but I don't think that in the current political and social climate in USA, pretty sure that her saying the right words will have the feminists have her back and the movement is getting bigger because a lot of people are joining the movement for better or for worse.

The problem with Kamala Harris is that her radical agenda will get her feminist and left-wing votes in deep blue states such as California, New York and Maryland. But the POTUS election in the United States is based on electoral votes, and not popular votes. A candidate can get 5% more votes compared to his opponent and still lose the election. In the end, it's the handful of states such as PA, NV, GA and SC which decides the outcome of the elections. And in these states, Kamala will repel many of the independent voters.

[Timelord2067]

It is less than one week shy of the first anniversary of the Biden+Harris administration - another year to go until the midterm elections and three years until the 2024 Presidential Election is held.

Is Joe Biden doing a great job? An okay job? Or, a not good at all job?

Joe Biden turns 79 on the 20^th of November, 2021 while Kamala Harris just turned 57 on the 20^th of October, 2021.

[STT]

Quite a few want to bet Biden isnt running for the next term even.  I think people get carried away with the age factor, he can carry on so far as I know and manage an administration of various people rather then handle every single factor personally.
   I imagine Biden would get reelected as is the norm, presuming the economy doesnt take a dive.

[Timelord2067]

'In good spirits': Biden resumes duties after temporary transfer of power to Harris during colonoscopy

Joey Garrison | Courtney Subramanian | USA TODAY https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/19/joe-biden-undergo-routine-annual-physical/8679730002/ - Archive [1a] [1b]

WASHINGTON —President Joe Biden was in "good spirits" and resumed his duties Friday after temporarily transferring power to Vice President Kamala Harris while undergoing a routine colonoscopy, according to the White House.

Biden underwent the procedure during a routine physical at Walter Reed Medical Center.

During the colonoscopy, a single 3 mm benign-appearing polyp was identified and "removed without difficulty," Biden's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, wrote in a summary of the president's medical exam released by the White House. An evaluation of the polyp is expected to be done by early next week, O'Connor said.

The physical, conducted a day before the president's 79th birthday, found Biden to be in overall good health, according to the summary. O'Connor acknowledged Biden's persistent coughing and throat-clearing, which has been evident during some of his speeches.  O'Connor said the cough is likely a symptom of gastroesophageal reflex, which may also contribute to occasional sinus congestion.

[Davidvictorson]

'In good spirits': Biden resumes duties after temporary transfer of power to Harris during colonoscopy

Joey Garrison | Courtney Subramanian | USA TODAY https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/19/joe-biden-undergo-routine-annual-physical/8679730002/ - Archive [1a] [1b]

WASHINGTON —President Joe Biden was in "good spirits" and resumed his duties Friday after temporarily transferring power to Vice President Kamala Harris while undergoing a routine colonoscopy, according to the White House.

Biden underwent the procedure during a routine physical at Walter Reed Medical Center.

During the colonoscopy, a single 3 mm benign-appearing polyp was identified and "removed without difficulty," Biden's physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, wrote in a summary of the president's medical exam released by the White House. An evaluation of the polyp is expected to be done by early next week, O'Connor said.

The physical, conducted a day before the president's 79th birthday, found Biden to be in overall good health, according to the summary. O'Connor acknowledged Biden's persistent coughing and throat-clearing, which has been evident during some of his speeches.  O'Connor said the cough is likely a symptom of gastroesophageal reflex, which may also contribute to occasional sinus congestion.

Thank God, he's fine. It’s good for fathers in America that have daughters to let them see, that women can be leaders and they can also.

[Timelord2067]

President Biden's first State of the Union address came and went a week ago - Fuel prices are on the rise, interest rates look set to rise, there's an invasion on Europe's Eastern doorstep.

Is President Biden worth a second term?  And, would you put a wager on him?  If not, then who?

Discuss.

[mindrust]

President Biden's first State of the Union address came and went a week ago - Fuel prices are on the rise, interest rates look set to rise, there's an invasion on Europe's Eastern doorstep.

This is almost the exact same situation Trump was in 2020 right before the elections. Covid19 started, the stock market crashed, people were panicking and losing their jobs, there were no "cures", everybody was going full panic...

If this can't make Biden lose the elections, I don't know what will.

2024 is a piece of cake for Trump.

[alegotardo]

President Biden's first State of the Union address came and went a week ago - Fuel prices are on the rise, interest rates look set to rise, there's an invasion on Europe's Eastern doorstep.

This is almost the exact same situation Trump was in 2020 right before the elections. Covid19 started, the stock market crashed, people were panicking and losing their jobs, there were no "cures", everybody was going full panic...

If this can't make Biden lose the elections, I don't know what will.

2024 is a piece of cake for Trump.

Worse than I have to agree...

After Trump left, Biden handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban, escalated inflation wildly by pumping money nonstop during the pandemic, and now starts a third world war trying to get Ukraine into NATO and fighting Putin.

And they still say Trump was crazy.

[LUCKMCFLY]

President Biden's first State of the Union address came and went a week ago - Fuel prices are on the rise, interest rates look set to rise, there's an invasion on Europe's Eastern doorstep.

This is almost the exact same situation Trump was in 2020 right before the elections. Covid19 started, the stock market crashed, people were panicking and losing their jobs, there were no "cures", everybody was going full panic...

If this can't make Biden lose the elections, I don't know what will.

2024 is a piece of cake for Trump.

Worse than I have to agree...

After Trump left, Biden handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban, escalated inflation wildly by pumping money nonstop during the pandemic, and now starts a third world war trying to get Ukraine into NATO and fighting Putin.

And they still say Trump was crazy.

Well what happens is that Biden is more democratic in style and is not radical like Trump, at first I do not consider myself a fan of Trump but I recognize when a person has a high intellect, and I know that in Trump's hands this war conflict that is happening right now, with Trump it would not have happened, sometimes I see Biden's attitude like that child who stirs up a beehive, runs away and the bees sting those around him without having anything to do with it, this is what What Biden does is a somewhat harsh analogy, but it is what actually happens.

Many do not dare to enter into conflict with Biden or with his followers, even though I am not a US citizen, these are things that can be seen with the naked eye.

[mindrust]

Well what happens is that Biden is more democratic in style and is not radical like Trump, at first I do not consider myself a fan of Trump but I recognize when a person has a high intellect, and I know that in Trump's hands this war conflict that is happening right now, with Trump it would not have happened, sometimes I see Biden's attitude like that child who stirs up a beehive, runs away and the bees sting those around him without having anything to do with it, this is what What Biden does is a somewhat harsh analogy, but it is what actually happens.
Many do not dare to enter into conflict with Biden or with his followers, even though I am not a US citizen, these are things that can be seen with the naked eye.

You feel that way because deep inside you know that Biden is a muppet. If you look closely, you can see the strings attached to his mouth and hands. He simply is doing what he is told by his superiors.

On the other hand when you look at Trump, you see a real person with real thoughts. Sometimes he might be ridiculous but in the end this is how he is. He don't read his text from a tele-prompter which is a very rare quality nowadays.

[bitzizzix]

The Democratic presidential candidate in 2024 will most likely be Kamala Harris, Biden will probably be too old in 2024.
Republicans tend to split between the Trumpers wing and the more moderate traditional wing, Ted Cruz is a good bet for the Trumpers. John Kasick for the traditionalists.
by the way Nikki Haley, she has executive experience as a governor and she has overseas exposure as Ambassador to the United Nations.
she is a great speaker and she will also be the first female president.

[mindrust]

I am not sure whether Donald Trump or Ivanka would consider running for POTUS 2024. If they do, then it will be a big mistake. If Kamala is the Democrat nominee (which is 99% probable), then there will be a lot of moderate voters who would not vote for her. In order to attract these votes, the GOP needs someone like DeSantis or Pence. Donald and Ivanka would make these people stay at home. Trump will be 78 years at the time of next presidential election. I don't think that the US voters would prefer to have another president in his 80s.

Why would Ivanka run for president? It doesn't make any sense. Trump will run though that's for sure. Biden/Harris duo is done. I don't think they'll be able to win the next election and I somehow find it weird how they won the last one, if you know what i mean.

78 years old Trump looks and acts younger/energetic than many 40-50 y.o. people to be honest. See Biden, the guy just wants to sleep, can barely put together a sentence and most of the time he don't know what he is talking about.

When compared with Biden, Trump is a middle aged man.

[Sithara007]

Why would Ivanka run for president? It doesn't make any sense. Trump will run though that's for sure. Biden/Harris duo is done. I don't think they'll be able to win the next election and I somehow find it weird how they won the last one, if you know what i mean.

78 years old Trump looks and acts younger/energetic than many 40-50 y.o. people to be honest. See Biden, the guy just wants to sleep, can barely put together a sentence and most of the time he don't know what he is talking about.

When compared with Biden, Trump is a middle aged man.

Trump may not be able to win over the independent voters, especially after all the drama he did after the 2020 POTUS elections. He is too radical and age is not on his side. The GOP needs someone like Ron DeSantis, Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz. If Trump runs against Kamala Harris, then in all probability he will win. But the probability will be much more, if one of the moderates such as De Santis is the GOP nominee. That said, we will get an idea about the mood of the voters in 5 months. Elections will be held for 35 senate seats, as well as for all the seats in the House of Representatives. I know that the Dems are going to lose, but I want to see exactly how bad it gets for them. 

[Timelord2o67]

Time for a bump with the midterm elections looming larger in the horizon.

Who will be President in two and a half years time?

Would you put money in it?

[Timelord2067]

Are you having any wagers on the midterm elections ??

Will the midterms sway voters in two years time?

Who will be President in two and a half years time?

Would you put money on the Presidential elections now?

Will Bernie Sanders, Taylor Swift or even Kanye West have enough momentum to be a serious or credabital contender?

At least Kanye West is out having flushed his life down the sewer in the last few weeks.