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September 16, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


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September 16, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
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Great write up.  Congrats Alan!

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September 16, 2013, 08:17:41 PM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


Congrats. Love to see Armory live up to its full potential.

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September 16, 2013, 09:43:48 PM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


Congrats. Love to see Armory live up to its full potential.
Grats!  I'm excited to see the project move forward like this.

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September 16, 2013, 10:06:37 PM
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Thanks everyone, and you too goatpig!  Your help was actually tremendous.  Just because I have full time people helping doesn't mean that we no longer will need help from the community!  We actually have already tried out your solution and it appears to take us much further than we got before!  So I'm glad you helped, and I think you deserve the 2 BTC.  Though, I just realized that your solution uses a very old version of LevelDB ... I haven't tried merging that project with the latest LevelDB, but we will need to do that eventually.

Regarding LevelDB, I haven't looked at the source too much, however it seems evident that all the system resource and OS talking LevelDB requires is performed by a separate piece of code, confined to the "port" folder of LDB's source. Of what I've seen, it handles threading, atomicity, file access, getting the environment, setting variables and, I suspect, whatever else there is to do on that front. My intuition on this is that as long as you get a proper compile of "port", all the code inside the leveldb/leveldb folder (the db related classes) will compile without errors.

It is true that I don't like leveldbwin's approach, using ATL and  MS's interlocked memory functions to provide environment and atomicity. Ideally you'd like to compile a dll on MS systems, and support x64, so a in house compilation seems like a better long term option. LevelDB uses pthreads, which is easy to compile on msvc, as well as atomics, which vc11 supports natively. I think it won't be too hard to get a proper build going for Windows. I'll be around if you need assistance with that.

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September 16, 2013, 10:58:33 PM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


Congrats. Love to see Armory live up to its full potential.
Grats!  I'm excited to see the project move forward like this.

So when is red emerald going to be joining the armory team Wink

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September 16, 2013, 11:04:29 PM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


Congrats. Love to see Armory live up to its full potential.
Grats!  I'm excited to see the project move forward like this.

So when is red emerald going to be joining the armory team Wink

*disclaimer no knowledge of anything that has to do with armory and the company, just speculation*

We actually have some money bookmarked for outside help, like what Red Emerald has done in the past.  If we need something that no one on our team knows how to deal with, we may simply offer them some short-term funding at a reasonable hourly rate to help out.  I don't expect us to be doing a lot of that, but it's definitely a "tool" we're keeping in our back pocket.

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September 17, 2013, 12:29:31 AM
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By the way, Coindesk just ran the story, after interviewing me.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-seed-funding/


Congrats. Love to see Armory live up to its full potential.
Grats!  I'm excited to see the project move forward like this.

So when is red emerald going to be joining the armory team Wink

*disclaimer no knowledge of anything that has to do with armory and the company, just speculation*

We actually have some money bookmarked for outside help, like what Red Emerald has done in the past.  If we need something that no one on our team knows how to deal with, we may simply offer them some short-term funding at a reasonable hourly rate to help out.  I don't expect us to be doing a lot of that, but it's definitely a "tool" we're keeping in our back pocket.

Does your build system still need work in this next version?

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September 17, 2013, 12:52:12 AM
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We actually have some money bookmarked for outside help, like what Red Emerald has done in the past.  If we need something that no one on our team knows how to deal with, we may simply offer them some short-term funding at a reasonable hourly rate to help out.  I don't expect us to be doing a lot of that, but it's definitely a "tool" we're keeping in our back pocket.

Does your build system still need work in this next version?

And so it begins... Smiley

PM me and let me know what you think you can help us with.  By default, we will be trying to do things ourselves with already-paid labor, and that's how we learn anyway.  But if especially if we're bogged down and it's a compact and measurable task we'll consider outsourcing.

We might need help with the Windows build system.  But we also might have figured it out already.  Linux packaging could use some help, but we have a hardc0re linux nerd coming in at the end of the month so I will assume he's got that covered Smiley




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September 17, 2013, 02:05:23 AM
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We actually have some money bookmarked for outside help, like what Red Emerald has done in the past.  If we need something that no one on our team knows how to deal with, we may simply offer them some short-term funding at a reasonable hourly rate to help out.  I don't expect us to be doing a lot of that, but it's definitely a "tool" we're keeping in our back pocket.

Does your build system still need work in this next version?

And so it begins... Smiley

PM me and let me know what you think you can help us with.  By default, we will be trying to do things ourselves with already-paid labor, and that's how we learn anyway.  But if especially if we're bogged down and it's a compact and measurable task we'll consider outsourcing.

We might need help with the Windows build system.  But we also might have figured it out already.  Linux packaging could use some help, but we have a hardc0re linux nerd coming in at the end of the month so I will assume he's got that covered Smiley


Sounds good ... at least the linux build could do with the work, particularly the dynamic lib link stuff was pretty shaky sec. wise last time I looked and we had this discussion ...


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September 17, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
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etotheipi,
If you want to close the bounty listed here I would be willing to divert the 5 BTC I pledged to you directly, I didn't realize you were on the cusp of being able to work on Armory full-time or I would have helped participate in investing in you.

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September 17, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
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etotheipi,
If you want to close the bounty listed here I would be willing to divert the 5 BTC I pledged to you directly, I didn't realize you were on the cusp of being able to work on Armory full-time or I would have helped participate in investing in you.

Raize, you are welcome to donate it to me.  All donations up until this point have gone to me, not the company, though at some point we will transition the address (and mark it clearly on the website) that future donations will support development (i.e. going to paying salaries of everyone working on Armory).  Up until this point, most people thought their donations were going directly to me for what I've done so far, so I made it clear to the investors that until the specified time I will continue to keep them.  Also because CEOs of startups who have the most equity (the most to gain), tend to also have the lowest salaries.  It's part of the risk I get to take given all the potential upside I have.  Until the company actually starts turning a profit, I'll be getting paid below my market value so that we can contribute more money to these superstar developers for whom we have to compete with the rest of the job market.

I'm not complaining -- I'm doing what I love doing and I am still making enough to be comfortable, so I don't have much to complain about Smiley  But donations are still appreciated and remind me how much people like the work I've done. 

Take that for what it's worth.



Goatpig -

Want to double-down?  I'll make it 3 BTC if you can take your working project and integrate the latest leveldb with it.  I haven't tried it, and as you said it might just be plug-n-play.  In which case this would be the easiest 1 BTC ever.  Or it may take some work.  But in the interest of optimizing my time, it's worth upping the bounty a bit to get you to investigate that for us Smiley  You seem to be quite experienced with C++ and MSVS, so you seem like the right person to send headfirst into this one.




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September 17, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
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@ goatpig

I am trying to follow your solution on Windows 7, 32-bit.  Everything has been smooth except for ATL.  I installed the 7.1.0 WDK, but it still can't find atlbase.h.  I have searched the entire harddrive looking for it, but can't find it.  I reinstalled the WDK and rebooted and it's nowhere to be found.  I did some googling and found posts telling me to install the 7.1.0 WDK... I wonder if it has to do with 32-bit OS?  I can't imagine the header file would, but I'm grasping at straws here...  any advice?


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September 17, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
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I'm curious to know if there is any push to improve the Armory interface? For a user like me it works just fine, but someone who is newer to Bitcoin, I could see how it could be very uninviting.

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September 17, 2013, 08:15:03 PM
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I just noticed that Armory's website got a redesign.  Looks good.  I'm impatiently awaiting the new version of Armory that will be less RAM intensive, but I assume progress will be going faster now that you're working on this full time. 

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September 17, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
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@ goatpig

I am trying to follow your solution on Windows 7, 32-bit.  Everything has been smooth except for ATL.  I installed the 7.1.0 WDK, but it still can't find atlbase.h.  I have searched the entire harddrive looking for it, but can't find it.  I reinstalled the WDK and rebooted and it's nowhere to be found.  I did some googling and found posts telling me to install the 7.1.0 WDK... I wonder if it has to do with 32-bit OS?  I can't imagine the header file would, but I'm grasping at straws here...  any advice?



C:\WinDDK\7600.16385.1\inc\atl71 -> this is my include folder for all header files
C:\WinDDK\7600.16385.1\lib\ATL\i386 -> this is where the libs are. I picked i386 cause leveldbwin only support x86. However x64 binaries and libs are available if you wanna try a x64 compile.


I'm curious about your install folder, namely its build version (mine is 7600.16385.1 as you can see)

Edit: I'm redownloading the wdk iso to check the installation process. Did you perform a custom or full install? There's only one option needed to install ATL binaries and headers

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September 17, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
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I just noticed that Armory's website got a redesign.  Looks good.  I'm impatiently awaiting the new version of Armory that will be less RAM intensive, but I assume progress will be going faster now that you're working on this full time. 

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September 17, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
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C:\WinDDK\7600.16385.1\inc\atl71 -> this is my include folder for all header files
C:\WinDDK\7600.16385.1\lib\ATL\i386 -> this is where the libs are. I picked i386 cause leveldbwin only support x86. However x64 binaries and libs are available if you wanna try a x64 compile.


I'm curious about your install folder, namely its build version (mine is 7600.16385.1 as you can see)

Ugh!  Why is Windows search so terrible?!  I did a full "search" of the C-drive and it came up with nothing.  But I just followed the path you mentioned and I found it.  Alright, I'll manually add that to the "Additional Include Directories" and see where that gets me.

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Ugh!  Why is Windows search so terrible?!  I did a full "search" of the C-drive and it came up with nothing.  But I just followed the path you mentioned and I found it.  Alright, I'll manually add that to the "Additional Include Directories" and see where that gets me.

Windows Search is based on preindexation performed by a back-end service. New folders may not be parsed right away in the temporary db.

You have to indicate both header and lib folder to msvc unless you install a pay version. You can register these folders globally in msvc options rather than just link them to each of your projects. Not sure how it's done is vc11 express. Ima look it up

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Ok my bad the global include folder registering through msvc GUI seems to be limited to pay versions. Have to do it through the registry.

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