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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1153910 times)
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November 21, 2014, 08:11:08 PM
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what is the staking specs on this coin?

It targets one block per minute, and pays 1 CLAM reward per block (plus transaction fees from included transactions).

Every 16 seconds each of the outputs in your wallet that hasn't moved for 4 hours and is mature (over 510 blocks since last staking) gets a chance to stake that is proportional to its size.

The network difficulty target is around 2000*2^200 at the moment. Each 16 seconds, each eligible output gets sha256 hashed, and has to get a value less than the difficulty target times its value in satoshis to qualify for staking.

That means that an output of around 66 CLAMs should stake once per day on average. Note that once it stakes, it takes 4 hours or 510 confirmations (whichever takes longer) before it is eligible to stake again. For that reason people tend to break their outputs up into smaller pieces, so that when one stakes the rest can continue attempting to stake without the delay.

Edit: here's the math I did to come up with 66 CLAMs as the size you need to average 1 stake per day. It might be wrong or at least inaccurate:

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>>> 2**256 / 1e8 / (2000 * 2**200) * 16 / (60 * 60 * 24)
66.71999447956291

2**256 is the number of different outputs from sha256
1e8 is to get an answer in CLAMs, not satoshis
2000 * 2^200 is the network difficulty target
16 is the number of seconds between 'attempts' at staking
60*60*24 is the number of seconds in a day

How do you get clams?

Three ways:

1) buy them - from someone who has some - they're listed on poloniex here: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_clam

2) dig them - from the initial distribution - everyone who had a non-dust amount of BTC, LTC, or DOGE in May 2014 was given 4.6 CLAM as part of the initial distribution. Import your old BTC, LTC, or DOGE wallet into the CLAM client to import your old private keys. You might want to make sure that the keys are "empty" first if you don't trust the CLAM client. There are over 15 million CLAMs that were given away in this way which haven't been "dug" yet.

3) stake them - as described above staking currently returns a little over 1% growth per day for those actively staking. The growth will continue to be 1440 CLAM per day, but as the active coinbase grows, that will come to represent a smaller percentage growth for each staker.

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November 21, 2014, 11:51:59 PM
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Thanks dooglus

I love your tech talk please keep it going. I find it both informative and thoughtful.

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November 21, 2014, 11:52:30 PM
Last edit: November 22, 2014, 04:36:59 AM by dooglus
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I just ported my 'dumpbootstrap' RPC command to the new version of the client, dumped a new bootstrap.dat file, and uploaded it to Amazon S3. I updated my old post about it:

I'll post a torrent link once it's done.

Here:

  https://s3.amazonaws.com/dooglus/bootstrap.dat?torrent

and here, if you want a direct link, rather than a torrent:

  https://s3.amazonaws.com/dooglus/bootstrap.dat

Download that, copy it to your clam folder (where the wallet.dat lives) and restart the CLAM client. It will notice the bootstrap.dat file, and import the blockchain up to block 176750 219000 from it. Then it will connect to peers and carry on from there.

To check, see if the sha256 hash matches mine:

$ sha256sum /tmp/bootstrap.dat
3965815c11e4cbdafe99ebb55448c7a4abe730e0e8bd6fc42cf2b031cef32443  /tmp/bootstrap.dat
76d9481ac6bd5ec48fb71f0fd306f9fe9b82c4a9a957f64ffa05226e5abe1abe  /tmp/bootstrap.dat

Edit: I ran:

clamd dumpbootstrap /tmp/bootstrap.dat 219000

If someone is willing to run the same command after rebuilding with my patch and verify that the sha256 hash is the same, that would be helpful.

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November 22, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
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I've just downloaded 2 separate CLAMS Windows clients from 2 different Official links, both stated they are CLAMS 1.4.3.0 but when I look inside the wallet it shows v1.4.2.1 is there something I'm missing or did the Dev just not update that part ?
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November 22, 2014, 01:19:54 AM
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I've just downloaded 2 separate CLAMS Windows clients from 2 different Official links, both stated they are CLAMS 1.4.3.0 but when I look inside the wallet it shows v1.4.2.1 is there something I'm missing or did the Dev just not update that part ?

My client says 1.4.2.1 in the Help->About CLAM dialog too, and I know I'm running 1.4.3.0.

I don't know where it gets that version string from.

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November 22, 2014, 02:18:57 AM
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I've just downloaded 2 separate CLAMS Windows clients from 2 different Official links, both stated they are CLAMS 1.4.3.0 but when I look inside the wallet it shows v1.4.2.1 is there something I'm missing or did the Dev just not update that part ?

My client says 1.4.2.1 in the Help->About CLAM dialog too, and I know I'm running 1.4.3.0.

I don't know where it gets that version string from.

It depends on how its built. The version string can be pulled from git, and a few other places. It will be updated in the next client release which should be tomorrow.  The version slipped through the crack on the most recent update.

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November 22, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
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I have added the following services for CLAM to my webiste.

Explorer: http://blocks.luckyalt.com:3003

Dice: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoin

Faucet: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoinfaucet


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November 22, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
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I have added the following services for CLAM to my webiste.
Explorer: http://blocks.luckyalt.com:3003
Dice: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoin
Faucet: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoinfaucet


Please ensure that you are building the correct version of the CLAMclient and have a working block chain for your services.
The block data appears to be incorrect on the explorer linked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
Proof-Of-Chain, 100% Distributed BEFORE Launch.
Everyone who owned BTC, LTC, or DOGE at launch got free CLAMS.
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November 22, 2014, 03:52:11 PM
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I have added the following services for CLAM to my webiste.
Explorer: http://blocks.luckyalt.com:3003

Not that we don't appreciate the services (cause we do!) but your block explorer doesn't work correctly.


Porting our coin to ABE has proved to be quite the challenge due to our last fork. I don't have the necessary python skills to do what I need to. Annoyingly I know exactly what needs to be done, just unsure how to do it in the mess known as Abe.

The problem is we switched to sha256 block hashing in the new fork for performance reasons but ABE alloys no easy way to switch the way it parses the headers for a chain.  

I have the current code updates I've made if anyone wants to take a shot. It almost works but after 203500 it parses the block headers incorrectly

you can reach me on our IRC channel

  

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November 22, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
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Any nodes? Cant get win wallet to sync.
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November 22, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
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I have added the following services for CLAM to my webiste.
Explorer: http://blocks.luckyalt.com:3003
Dice: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoin
Faucet: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoinfaucet


Please ensure that you are building the correct version of the CLAMclient and have a working block chain for your services.
The block data appears to be incorrect on the explorer linked.

Dice and faucet are updated correctly. The explorer though is having issues.
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November 22, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
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I have added the following services for CLAM to my webiste.
Explorer: http://blocks.luckyalt.com:3003
Dice: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoin
Faucet: http://www.luckyalt.com/clamcoinfaucet


Please ensure that you are building the correct version of the CLAMclient and have a working block chain for your services.
The block data appears to be incorrect on the explorer linked.

Dice and faucet are updated correctly. The explorer though is having issues.

I can likely help you with the changes, I'm just not sure how to implement them myself.   I know what needs to be changed for it to work.

You can catch me on our irc channel, I'm always there.  I would love to help you get it running correctly!

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November 23, 2014, 12:37:05 AM
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so who wants to sell some clams?Huh  Smiley
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November 23, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
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http://khashier.com:2750/ is down...

is there another block explorer?

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November 23, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
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http://khashier.com:2750/ is down...

is there another block explorer?

I'm working on Abe sense no one has seems to be able to get it running.   No, there is no others. Clams has a few things that make block explorer adaption difficult.

if its not up soon I'll put rpcace back online

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November 23, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2014, 09:54:48 PM by xploited
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Blockexplorer is currently rebuilding its database.

I've worked out all the kinks, just need it to complete the resync and it will be back online

About 1-2 hours

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November 24, 2014, 01:04:09 AM
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Block explorer is back up and running!!!!!


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November 24, 2014, 09:24:57 AM
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i'm unable to reach it  Huh

(usually it's working good and it's usefull to check if my client is on the right chain.)

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November 24, 2014, 10:10:10 PM
Last edit: November 25, 2014, 03:44:49 AM by xploited
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Block explorer is currently undergoing some maint. It will be back up shortly for anyone who noticied its down


EDIT:  Its back up

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November 25, 2014, 05:00:27 PM
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Its back up

Thank you for the work you do.

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