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we are talking about a cult that doesn't consider the consequences of its agenda as particularly important.
True. Islam says love towards Islamites, but opposition towards those who are not Islamites. The question is, if Islam were the only religion and the only government in the world, would there be peace then? The answer is in the fact that there is fighting among the different Islamite sects right now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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In the Koran, it is acceptable to kill non-muslims and those that leave the islam faith. There is no questioning that, and that's what terrorists use to justify their actions, because it is justifyable according to the Koran's texts.
Islam, Christianity, Judasim, are religions of War, hate, murder, death. They are the farthest things from being religions of peace.
Why do you think that about Christianity? In the words of the New Testament, on which Christianity is based, there is no directive to hate or do violence against anyone. There almost isn't anything written that could be interpreted that way. That's why terrorists don't use Christianity as the reason that they do their terrorism. The Crusades of the past that did violence, either did it out of self-defense with the idea that a strong offense is the best defense, or they did it out of ignorance, directed by the politicians of the day. Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The Old Testament is identical in violence and hatred to the Koran and Torah. All that the New Testament does is contradict the Old Testament, proving the invadility(Falseness) of the bible. After all, christ claims to be one with god the father, but his teachings go directly against the teachings of god the father, so one of them is wrong(A true god cannot make mistakes), and that means neither of them are god. Also, during the crusades, christian missionaries and knights murdered countless people for trivial reasons to "reclaim the holy land", not anything remotely similar to self-defense. You talk about one being wrong. The wrong one is you. As I said, "Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament." ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So you use opinions without any objective evidence and claim myself to be wrong. K. As I said earlier, Christ claims to be the same as god the father. The New Testament's teachings go directly against the Old Testament's teachings. That means that either Christ or God the father is wrong, and since one of them is wrong, that means they are neither god as a true god is perfect in every way and cannot be wrong. Christianity is pro violence, as is the other two Abrahamic religions.
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In the Koran, it is acceptable to kill non-muslims and those that leave the islam faith. There is no questioning that, and that's what terrorists use to justify their actions, because it is justifyable according to the Koran's texts.
Islam, Christianity, Judasim, are religions of War, hate, murder, death. They are the farthest things from being religions of peace.
Why do you think that about Christianity? In the words of the New Testament, on which Christianity is based, there is no directive to hate or do violence against anyone. There almost isn't anything written that could be interpreted that way. That's why terrorists don't use Christianity as the reason that they do their terrorism. The Crusades of the past that did violence, either did it out of self-defense with the idea that a strong offense is the best defense, or they did it out of ignorance, directed by the politicians of the day. Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The Old Testament is identical in violence and hatred to the Koran and Torah. All that the New Testament does is contradict the Old Testament, proving the invadility(Falseness) of the bible. After all, christ claims to be one with god the father, but his teachings go directly against the teachings of god the father, so one of them is wrong(A true god cannot make mistakes), and that means neither of them are god. Also, during the crusades, christian missionaries and knights murdered countless people for trivial reasons to "reclaim the holy land", not anything remotely similar to self-defense. You talk about one being wrong. The wrong one is you. As I said, "Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament." ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So you use opinions without any objective evidence and claim myself to be wrong. K. As I said earlier, Christ claims to be the same as god the father. The New Testament's teachings go directly against the Old Testament's teachings. That means that either Christ or God the father is wrong, and since one of them is wrong, that means they are neither god as a true god is perfect in every way and cannot be wrong. Christianity is pro violence, as is the other two Abrahamic religions. Not like THIS- 2015.05.06 (Sulaimanzai, Afghanistan) - Two children are reduced to pulp by a Taliban bomb blast. 2015.05.04 (Rashad, Iraq) - Jihadi bombers target a displaced family, killing two female members. 2015.05.04 (Deri Ghazi Khan, Pakistan) - One person is killed when Islamic militants attack a school. 2015.05.04 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - One other person is killed when a Shahid suicide bomber attacks a civilian bus. 2015.05.02 (Diyala, Iraq) - Five women are among seven passengers torn to shreds by a Mujahid blast on a bus. 2015.05.01 (Adamawa, Nigeria) - Ten captured women are stoned to death by Boko Haram to keep them from being rescued.
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May 07, 2015, 01:01:21 AM |
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In the Koran, it is acceptable to kill non-muslims and those that leave the islam faith. There is no questioning that, and that's what terrorists use to justify their actions, because it is justifyable according to the Koran's texts.
Islam, Christianity, Judasim, are religions of War, hate, murder, death. They are the farthest things from being religions of peace.
Why do you think that about Christianity? In the words of the New Testament, on which Christianity is based, there is no directive to hate or do violence against anyone. There almost isn't anything written that could be interpreted that way. That's why terrorists don't use Christianity as the reason that they do their terrorism. The Crusades of the past that did violence, either did it out of self-defense with the idea that a strong offense is the best defense, or they did it out of ignorance, directed by the politicians of the day. Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The Old Testament is identical in violence and hatred to the Koran and Torah. All that the New Testament does is contradict the Old Testament, proving the invadility(Falseness) of the bible. After all, christ claims to be one with god the father, but his teachings go directly against the teachings of god the father, so one of them is wrong(A true god cannot make mistakes), and that means neither of them are god. Also, during the crusades, christian missionaries and knights murdered countless people for trivial reasons to "reclaim the holy land", not anything remotely similar to self-defense. You talk about one being wrong. The wrong one is you. As I said, "Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament." ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So you use opinions without any objective evidence and claim myself to be wrong. K. As I said earlier, Christ claims to be the same as god the father. The New Testament's teachings go directly against the Old Testament's teachings. That means that either Christ or God the father is wrong, and since one of them is wrong, that means they are neither god as a true god is perfect in every way and cannot be wrong. Christianity is pro violence, as is the other two Abrahamic religions. Not like THIS- 2015.05.06 (Sulaimanzai, Afghanistan) - Two children are reduced to pulp by a Taliban bomb blast. 2015.05.04 (Rashad, Iraq) - Jihadi bombers target a displaced family, killing two female members. 2015.05.04 (Deri Ghazi Khan, Pakistan) - One person is killed when Islamic militants attack a school. 2015.05.04 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - One other person is killed when a Shahid suicide bomber attacks a civilian bus. 2015.05.02 (Diyala, Iraq) - Five women are among seven passengers torn to shreds by a Mujahid blast on a bus. 2015.05.01 (Adamawa, Nigeria) - Ten captured women are stoned to death by Boko Haram to keep them from being rescued. God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder.. The lesser of two evils is still evil...
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May 07, 2015, 01:16:28 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.
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Egypt: Five Christian Children Charged With Blasphemy And Insulting Islam For Making Fun of ISIS…… A recent incident saw Muslim mobs in the Minya village of Nasreya descend on the homes of five Coptic students, chanting they had “insulted” Islam in a video that was circulating showing the youths praying with their Coptic teacher. In fact, the students had been making fun of ISIS, according to Coptic activists. While police arrested the teacher and detained him for questioning over four days, the Muslim mobs threw rocks at the homes of the youths in a bid to force their parents to hand their children over to the authorities, Coptic media reports say. Blasphemy is a crime in Egypt, but human rights activists say the authorities have traditionally used the law to persecute minorities, among them Christians. Thabet said the children remained detained by the authorities, as were other Christians who’d been victims of Muslim assaults. “We have five Coptic children charged with blasphemy and insulting Islam,” he said. “We still have other open cases where Christians are charged with inciting violence as if they were the perpetrators, but where they were the victims.” FoxNews.com reported last month how a Muslim mob attacked Christians in the Minya village of al Our, which had been home to 13 of the 21 Christians whose murder by ISIS in February was captured in a gruesome video appearing to show them being beheaded on a Libyan beach. The Muslim protesters had opposed the Christians’ plan to build a new church to honor the 21, and had pelted them with rocks as they chanted they would never allow construction to begin. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05/05/outside-cairo-egypt-christians-face-persecution/--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blasphemy And Insulting Islam For Making Fun of ISIS... I thought isis was a perversion of islam... Still can't make fun or demonize isis still? Why?
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May 07, 2015, 01:58:26 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)"
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.Any cases of a sorceress with her head chopped off by Christians you know about recently? Recently, as in less than 1200 years obviously... But I get your point: "If it was OK for Christians to do it 1000 years ago who are we to deny the same rights to other religions of today..." Interesting perspective....
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May 07, 2015, 02:10:01 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.One basic question. Are you justified executing your wild dog (not rabid, just wild) if it will not accept your training, and is harming your peaceful animals? God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him. How did people become wicked? They listened to and obeyed Satan rather than God. Nowhere does God justify murder for no right reason. If your family is being attacked by an attacker who will not stop, and there is no other way to stop him, if you kill him to protect your family, are you not justified? Same thing with God's family versus the family of Satan. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 07, 2015, 02:12:39 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.One basic question. Are you justified executing your wild dog (not rabid, just wild) if it will not accept your training, and is harming your peaceful animals? God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.How did people become wicked? They listened to and obeyed Satan rather than God. Nowhere does God justify murder for no right reason. If your family is being attacked by an attacker who will not stop, and there is no other way to stop him, if you kill him to protect your family, are you not justified? Same thing with God's family versus the family of Satan. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You're not very smart are you...Those are direct commands from god supporting rape, murder, and abuse. There is no justifying it... But you attempt to justify the evil found in the bible by saying "God owns us, he can do whatever he wants"? Please shut up and get lost. You're so brainwashed and twisted that continuing this conversation is a complete waste of time. " God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.". -BADecker So you ackowledge that God is evil then, because he supports murder...Thanks for admitting that kid . Also, just in case you don't know how to read...God commands the killing of children and babies, who are by default, innocent, not "wicked nations".
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May 07, 2015, 02:25:13 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.One basic question. Are you justified executing your wild dog (not rabid, just wild) if it will not accept your training, and is harming your peaceful animals? God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.How did people become wicked? They listened to and obeyed Satan rather than God. Nowhere does God justify murder for no right reason. If your family is being attacked by an attacker who will not stop, and there is no other way to stop him, if you kill him to protect your family, are you not justified? Same thing with God's family versus the family of Satan. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You're not very smart are you...Those are direct commands from god supporting rape, murder, and abuse. There is no justifying it... But you attempt to justify the evil found in the bible by saying "God owns us, he can do whatever he wants"? Please shut up and get lost. You're so brainwashed and twisted that continuing this conversation is a complete waste of time. " God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.". -BADecker So you ackowledge that God is evil then, because he supports murder...Thanks for admitting that kid . Also, just in case you don't know how to read...God commands the killing of children and babies, who are by default, innocent, not "wicked nations".
Chuckle. I understand that God is very patient with you. Here you are calling Him evil. He doesn't have to answer to anyone, and nobody can withstand Him in the least. But He is patient with all of us. You are about as mixed up as you can get in your present state of knowledge. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.One basic question. Are you justified executing your wild dog (not rabid, just wild) if it will not accept your training, and is harming your peaceful animals? God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.How did people become wicked? They listened to and obeyed Satan rather than God. Nowhere does God justify murder for no right reason. If your family is being attacked by an attacker who will not stop, and there is no other way to stop him, if you kill him to protect your family, are you not justified? Same thing with God's family versus the family of Satan. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You're not very smart are you...Those are direct commands from god supporting rape, murder, and abuse. There is no justifying it... But you attempt to justify the evil found in the bible by saying "God owns us, he can do whatever he wants"? Please shut up and get lost. You're so brainwashed and twisted that continuing this conversation is a complete waste of time. " God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.". -BADecker So you ackowledge that God is evil then, because he supports murder...Thanks for admitting that kid . Also, just in case you don't know how to read...God commands the killing of children and babies, who are by default, innocent, not "wicked nations".
Chuckle. I understand that God is very patient with you. Here you are calling Him evil. He doesn't have to answer to anyone, and nobody can withstand Him in the least. But He is patient with all of us. You are about as mixed up as you can get in your present state of knowledge. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ok, so since you can't argue with any of the evidence I've presented, you resort to this trollyish "wannabe wise" behavior. I think we're done here.
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You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness. Yes, maybe Christians are smart enough to NOT read their bible, or to NOT take all the bullshit in it seriously. UNLIKE Muslims? I will let you answer that. LOL...
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May 07, 2015, 02:34:59 AM |
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God the father commands similar atrocities in the old testament; rape, murder..
The lesser of two evils is still evil...
Considering that one of the commandments in the Ten Commandments says to not kill (murder), and another says to not commit adultery (rape would be worse), where (the location in the Bible) does God command, as you say, "similar atrocities in the old testament?" I don't find it. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness.One basic question. Are you justified executing your wild dog (not rabid, just wild) if it will not accept your training, and is harming your peaceful animals? God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.How did people become wicked? They listened to and obeyed Satan rather than God. Nowhere does God justify murder for no right reason. If your family is being attacked by an attacker who will not stop, and there is no other way to stop him, if you kill him to protect your family, are you not justified? Same thing with God's family versus the family of Satan. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You're not very smart are you...Those are direct commands from god supporting rape, murder, and abuse. There is no justifying it... But you attempt to justify the evil found in the bible by saying "God owns us, he can do whatever he wants"? Please shut up and get lost. You're so brainwashed and twisted that continuing this conversation is a complete waste of time. " God owns us. We are His property. If we won't live according to His will and laws, not only is He justified in commanding execution of whole wicked nations, but He would be justified anyway because everything belongs to Him.". -BADecker So you ackowledge that God is evil then, because he supports murder...Thanks for admitting that kid . Also, just in case you don't know how to read...God commands the killing of children and babies, who are by default, innocent, not "wicked nations".
Chuckle. I understand that God is very patient with you. Here you are calling Him evil. He doesn't have to answer to anyone, and nobody can withstand Him in the least. But He is patient with all of us. You are about as mixed up as you can get in your present state of knowledge. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ok, so since you can't argue with any of the evidence I've presented, you resort to this trollyish "wannabe wise" behavior. I think we're done here. What's there to argue with? I understood that you were saying that God justifies random murder and rape. You meant mostly things regarding war and cleansing of the land. Since you seem to be on the side of evil, if God didn't happen to be patient with you, you would be destroyed right now. But it is the same with all of us. Some of us have changed enough to be on God's side. Hopefully you will change to be on His side as well. If you don't, since He is the authority over everything, you will suffer for being against Him. Bye for now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 07, 2015, 02:37:49 AM |
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You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness. Yes, maybe Christians are smart enough to NOT read their bible, or to NOT take all the bullshit in it seriously. UNLIKE Muslims? I will let you answer that. LOL... It's their environment. A lot of these christians are in "1st world" countries, while a lot of those muslims are in "3rd world", less "democratic" countries where there isn't much seperation between religion and state. The level of education they recieve is drastically different. Both religions are utter bullshit and promote violence, it's just the environment they live in.
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May 07, 2015, 03:31:30 AM |
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You clearly did not read your bible. There are a multitude of more commands by god besides the 10 commandments such as those 3 brief ones below. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm " You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" - This one is particular is often deemed the root cause for the infamous Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were burned at the stake.
" Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)" " They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
" Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)" From that and more, as you can see, God the father in the Old Testament is practically Satan himself. There's no way a good god can command such evilness. Yes, maybe Christians are smart enough to NOT read their bible, or to NOT take all the bullshit in it seriously. UNLIKE Muslims? I will let you answer that. LOL... It's their environment. A lot of these christians are in "1st world" countries, while a lot of those muslims are in "3rd world", less "democratic" countries where there isn't much seperation between religion and state. The level of education they recieve is drastically different. Both religions are utter bullshit and promote violence, it's just the environment they live in. And maybe it's because those darn Christians and Jews BUILT the 1st world, and the Muslims have dogma and creeds that are too rigid, that prevent them from progressing into the 1st world. Maybe taking the bullshit religion LESS SERIOUSLY is important for a culture to move forward. It's just a speculation on my part, but certainly we can point historically to rigid cultures and societies that could not withstand rapid change and are now gone.
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May 07, 2015, 05:01:17 AM |
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The hate people because they Quran teach them to hate who is not islam. The Quran have too many thing different the secular life。
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May 07, 2015, 05:46:05 AM |
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we are talking about a cult that doesn't consider the consequences of its agenda as particularly important.
True. Islam says love towards Islamites, but opposition towards those who are not Islamites. The question is, if Islam were the only religion and the only government in the world, would there be peace then? The answer is in the fact that there is fighting among the different Islamite sects right now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The hate people because they Quran teach them to hate who is not islam. The Quran have too many thing different the secular life。
Not true. Quran doesn't say people just because they are non-Muslims. Don't spread things you don't know.
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May 07, 2015, 06:46:26 AM |
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To be honest it just looks like that people that believe in islam is more primitive.. We have all these clans and groups who fight eachother in the middleeast and north- central- africa.
In somalia, etheopia and a few other countries around there is still war lords who control areas and fight to claim more.
Even though a PERSON who was muslim though of some algorithms that we use today does not mean much since they havent developed since around 1400.
Stone people to death. Justify "honor" kills. (Killing a family member) Old men being married to young teenagers and even kids sometimes. Old men having sex with young teens/kids (15 and below) Cutting off a thieves hands or feet.
How the fuck can you justify all that?
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May 07, 2015, 06:57:52 AM |
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To be honest it just looks like that people that believe in islam is more primitive.. We have all these clans and groups who fight eachother in the middleeast and north- central- africa.
In somalia, etheopia and a few other countries around there is still war lords who control areas and fight to claim more.
Even though a PERSON who was muslim though of some algorithms that we use today does not mean much since they havent developed since around 1400.
(1) Stone people to death. (2) Justify "honor" kills. (Killing a family member) (3) Old men being married to young teenagers and even kids sometimes. (4) Old men having sex with young teens/kids (15 and below) (5) Cutting off a thieves hands or feet.
How the fuck can you justify all that?
(1) In my view, for betterment and to save many lives. It is good to kill one life to save many lives than to save one life to kill many lives. (2) I didn't understand. Can you explain please? (3) Even non-Muslims do this. In Islam there are strict rules for marrying a matured girl. If she isn't matured, she shouldn't be married. Concern of matured child is necessary. (4) Same as above. (5) Cutting of hands or feet is not the punishment for all types of theft. There are rules and conditions to be met for this. Theft has went down drastically after this rule.
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