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June 23, 2016, 12:35:54 AM
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Turing completeness ? Turing no complete ?

sorry is not my mother language  Grin

"turing completeness"="being turing complete"

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June 23, 2016, 12:10:30 PM
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Turing completeness ? Turing no complete ?

sorry is not my mother language  Grin

"turing completeness"="being turing complete"

ok, so
Turing complete                             (Ether)
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Non Turing complete  ?                  (Tau)

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June 23, 2016, 01:52:03 PM
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So what I was talking about some pages ago happened: Bitfinex fucked up for some hours and people was scared. This is why im not investing on any coin that doesn't let me store the coins myself locally to hold them myself. Trusting exchanges or other people to hold coins for you is nonsense and very risky... unfortunately I don't see a way to securely invest in Tauchain.
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June 23, 2016, 02:01:04 PM
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Turing completeness ? Turing no complete ?

sorry is not my mother language  Grin

"turing completeness"="being turing complete"

ok, so
Turing complete                             (Ether)
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Non Turing complete  ?                  (Tau)




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June 23, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
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So what I was talking about some pages ago happened: Bitfinex fucked up for some hours and people was scared. This is why im not investing on any coin that doesn't let me store the coins myself locally to hold them myself. Trusting exchanges or other people to hold coins for you is nonsense and very risky... unfortunately I don't see a way to securely invest in Tauchain.


You don't have to keep your coins in an exchange, you can store your Agoras tokens by downloading and installing a wallet here: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx , or if you prefer, you can open an online wallet here: https://www.omniwallet.org/

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June 23, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
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ohad..how can i save agrs in a wallet bitcoin core???...how restore later?...

I see that is the safest way to store the agrs tokens..
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June 23, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
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ohad..how can i save agrs in a wallet bitcoin core???...how restore later?...

I see that is the safest way to store the agrs tokens..

omni address is only a bitcoin address. you can send tokens to any bitcoin address, and they will just sit there until you want to send them out. to send them out, you need to import that bitcoin address' private key into an omni wallet. (notice all: if you dont know how to store the private key safely, dont use this method, as you'll lose access to your coins!)

so, just like bitcoin paper wallet, except the final step of importing the paper wallet back to hot wallet in case of wanting to use the tokens, that is needed to be done by a proper omni wallet.

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June 23, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
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You don't have to keep your coins in an exchange, you can store your Agoras tokens by downloading and installing a wallet here: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx , or if you prefer, you can open an online wallet here: https://www.omniwallet.org/

how to send the tokens to omniwallet? if i want to sell, can i send back the tokens to bittrex?
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June 23, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
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how to send the tokens to omniwallet? if i want to sell, can i send back the tokens to bittrex?
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You can import your wallet to omniwallet or create a new one. After that you can receive, hold and withdraw your coins 😉
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June 24, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
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ohad..how can i save agrs in a wallet bitcoin core???...how restore later?...

I see that is the safest way to store the agrs tokens..

omni address is only a bitcoin address. you can send tokens to any bitcoin address, and they will just sit there until you want to send them out. to send them out, you need to import that bitcoin address' private key into an omni wallet. (notice all: if you dont know how to store the private key safely, dont use this method, as you'll lose access to your coins!)

so, just like bitcoin paper wallet, except the final step of importing the paper wallet back to hot wallet in case of wanting to use the tokens, that is needed to be done by a proper omni wallet.

Go here and you can download the hard wallet: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Get this: http://download.omnilayer.org/

This is omni core like bitcoin core.

Which cointains the best wallet imo if you want an offline or cold wallet.


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June 25, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
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ohad..how can i save agrs in a wallet bitcoin core???...how restore later?...

I see that is the safest way to store the agrs tokens..

omni address is only a bitcoin address. you can send tokens to any bitcoin address, and they will just sit there until you want to send them out. to send them out, you need to import that bitcoin address' private key into an omni wallet. (notice all: if you dont know how to store the private key safely, dont use this method, as you'll lose access to your coins!)

so, just like bitcoin paper wallet, except the final step of importing the paper wallet back to hot wallet in case of wanting to use the tokens, that is needed to be done by a proper omni wallet.
for about one month ,no update on github,does this progect still on progress.

seems that the dev have't update the tauchain on github over one month ,does the project still on progress

Go here and you can download the hard wallet: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Get this: http://download.omnilayer.org/

This is omni core like bitcoin core.

Which cointains the best wallet imo if you want an offline or cold wallet.



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June 25, 2016, 03:10:01 PM
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I see that is the safest way to store the agrs tokens..
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omni address is only a bitcoin address. you can send tokens to any bitcoin address, and they will just sit there until you want to send them out. to send them out, you need to import that bitcoin address' private key into an omni wallet. (notice all: if you dont know how to store the private key safely, dont use this method, as you'll lose access to your coins!)

so, just like bitcoin paper wallet, except the final step of importing the paper wallet back to hot wallet in case of wanting to use the tokens, that is needed to be done by a proper omni wallet.
[/quote] for about one month ,no update on github,does this progect still on progress.

seems that the dev have't update the tauchain on github over one month ,does the project still on progress

Go here and you can download the hard wallet: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Get this: http://download.omnilayer.org/

This is omni core like bitcoin core.

Which cointains the best wallet imo if you want an offline or cold wallet.


[/quote] for about one month ,no update on github,does this progect still on progress.

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June 26, 2016, 04:59:40 AM
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two popular posts by our friend Dana Edwards:

https://steemit.com/tauchain/@dana-edwards/a-discussion-and-description-of-how-tauchain-works-by-a-non-expert
https://steemit.com/tauchain/@dana-edwards/tauchain-advanced-concepts

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June 26, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
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Not to be the one who always weeps but I lost all my hope that we ever would be able to see some practical results or implementation of Tau Chain.  Cry

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June 26, 2016, 09:03:23 PM
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Not to be the one who always weeps but I lost all my hope that we ever would be able to see some practical results or implementation of Tau Chain.  Cry

please not that much arguments...


trying to fud so you buy cheaper?  Wink Grin
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June 28, 2016, 08:24:10 AM
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Not to be the one who always weeps but I lost all my hope that we ever would be able to see some practical results or implementation of Tau Chain.  Cry


if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))


a middle path dont exist!


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June 28, 2016, 10:45:20 AM
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if u make a good study in TauChain u will understand 1 thing:

or u r in (( all the way ))
or u r out (( all the way ))

a middle path dont exist!

So true.

I think that's not true.
If you are watching projects, there is usually ample time entering a project during its development phase
While earliest adopters of a successful project are earning biggest percentage wise profits they are bearing biggest risk.
So you don't have to be in all the way. You have to enter a project when reward to risk relationship is at maximum.

Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins.   

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June 28, 2016, 04:13:02 PM
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Shareholders with initial voting / powers of determination should start coming together to discuss the philosophy and ideas they'd like implemented so there is some preparation before launch.

http://www.esrad.org.uk/resources/vsmg_3/screen.php?page=0cybeyes

I've just read the modeling guide above and it gives some context for things that can be achieved. Perhaps others can share links they find resourceful.
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June 28, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
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Tauchain Advanced Concepts

https://steemit.com/tauchain/@dana-edwards/tauchain-advanced-concepts


A discussion and description of how Tauchain works by a non-expert


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June 28, 2016, 05:23:41 PM
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Main risks for Tau-Chain currently are IMHO:
1) Tau-chain might never be ready
2) New competition emerging & being faster
3) No guarantee that Agora coins will be the dominating currency for Tau-Chain. Who can be sure that there aren't other market place apps on Tau-Chain which will be using other coins like BTC or ETH?

Since Ohad's Tau-Chain seems to be a great ground braking project, early investors might at least see their investment as support for Ohad realizing his vision.
BTW: I think Ohad should look for strategic advice how to secure commercial success of Agora coins. 


Number 2 is out of our control. Number 1 seems improbable. Number 3 is only one we can work towards a solution to now. I agree it is a risk that can be addressed now.
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