Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[Foerster]

There is already a wallet for Agoras tokens in Omnichest: http://omnichest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=58
They offer a web-wallet and also a standard desktop wallet that can be used for the tokens: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

When buying from Ohad directly he also gives the option to leave the tokens with him to wait until the actual Agoras coins are released. If I remember correctly he even gives additional discount if one takes this option.

I see an adress in Bitttrex with 447k AGRS

It's likely that this is the Agoras pre-sale wallet on Bittrex.

it would be awesome to know exactly how many AGRS are in circulation...

As far as I know more than 5 million Agoras have already been sold and 1.26 Million of the 42 Million are earmarked for for project development and devs.
However, I don't know how many coins are free trading vs. reserved until Agoras launch.

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[mr001]

There is already a wallet for Agoras tokens in Omnichest: http://omnichest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=58
They offer a web-wallet and also a standard desktop wallet that can be used for the tokens: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Can somebody explain us, how to send Agora Tokens from Bittrex to my Omni web Wallet?

[ICOcountdown.com]

There is already a wallet for Agoras tokens in Omnichest: http://omnichest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=58
They offer a web-wallet and also a standard desktop wallet that can be used for the tokens: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Can somebody explain us, how to send Agora Tokens from Bittrex to my Omni web Wallet?

Make a Bitcoin address on Omni, then withdraw the Agoras to a omni web wallet bitcoin address. Omni is a layer on top of Bitcoin used for storing assets of Omni you can send them to BTC addresses.

Go to my addreses > Create new address > Withdraw from bittrex to that address.

You will see your tokens in the omni wallet.

[Rw13enlib88]

There is already a wallet for Agoras tokens in Omnichest: http://omnichest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=58
They offer a web-wallet and also a standard desktop wallet that can be used for the tokens: http://omnichest.info/wallets.aspx

Can somebody explain us, how to send Agora Tokens from Bittrex to my Omni web Wallet?

why you believe Omni web wallet is more secure than Bittrex?
Anyway they both use Omni Core (Desktop) to have a cold wallet right?
why not use Omni Core directly?

[ohad]

As far as I know more than 5 million Agoras have already been sold

more like 7M
can see the issuer's address that still holds ~35M tokens

[ohad]

why not use Omni Core directly?

indeed seem to be the safest out of the three options you mentioned, but will require a lot of disk space as a regular bitcoin node

[mr001]

why not use Omni Core directly?

Ok, but I do not have idea, how to use Omni Core.

[ohad]

why not use Omni Core directly?

Ok, but I do not have idea, how to use Omni Core.

begin with download install and run, and we'll keep going from there

[CCEDKaps]

the main differences I see between Tau and Ether are marketing and liquidity


Marketing
All the cryptocommunity know about Ether but only a few about TAU


Liquidity
Ethereum is on Polo, Kraken, Bitfinex, btc-e, GDAX, Yunbi, Bittrex, BitMex, Gemini, Yobit, Cex.io + 10 or more
AGRS is on Bittrex




My ideas:

Marketing
More interviews explaining how TAU is security (Turing completeness) and expressability (The new Tau language)     (correct if this is not true)
If you believe in Turing complete: Ethereum
If you believe in Turing completeness: Tau
If you're not sure: Diversify in both


Liquidity
Explain more exchanges the project and why they should add TAU

Hello,

I am Ronny Boesing from CCEDK and Openledger.


Just felt I wanted to share with you some information about how the tokens will soon be available on OpenLedger as well together with all OMNI assets actually, so now you have suddenly a way of getting the tokens into fiat as well as trading them on any other markets you wish for.

Just tweeted tonight, feel free to retweet and to go follow my twitter handle for news coming up.



CCEDK ApS ‏@CCEDK_  45m45 minutes ago North Jutland, Denmark
@TAUCHAIN #fiat #USD and #EUR #gateway, pairs with #EURT, #ETH, #DGD, #DASH, #BTC a.m. SOON on #OpenLedger #DC #startup #global #awareness



Who am I besides presenting you to these new trading options, well we are in connection with the revamp of CCEDK.com introducing a new conglomerate with OpenLedger as the host built on top of the BitShares platform.

The below is just a short intro to what we will soon be presenting on our site CCEDK.com, just felt for sharing with you on this first contact.

"The Decentralized Conglomerate represents the new paradigm of organizational operations, by applying the theoretical construct of digital leadership to the conceptual design of the DC ecosystem."
The DC comprises of a series of linked services and assets"

Bitcoin, The Blockchain And The Future Of 'Decentralized' Conglomerates
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/03/10/bitcoin-3-0-tech-bitshares-built-on-decentralized-conglomerate-platform-surges/#79f1e17439f8

Decentralized Conglomerate
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/decentralized-conglomerate-ronny-boesing?trk=mp-author-card

Why Decentralized Conglomerates Will Scale Better than Bitcoin – Interview with OpenLedger CEO
https://news.bitcoin.com/conglomerates-interview-openledger-ceo/


OpenLedger – The platform also called the DEX (decentralized exchange)

CCEDK – The brain introducing Campaigns or Services to bootstrap start-up's.

The Ecosystems

OBITS.io – the official token of the DC - Blockchain powered, people driven
BTSR.io – the digital token of BitTeaser  - The Blockchain Powered Smart Network  - Ad Tech 2.0
ICOO.io – the digital token of an Economic Enterprise Engine: Crowdfunding 3.0. Be the First to Trade Your ICO



Looking forwar to see you soon on OpenLedger and perhaps even look into som or all of our ecosystems

More information coming your way in coming days. This is just a welcoming message I felt I could connect with a question already put here.

Yours sincerely

Ronny Boesing
CEO
CCEDK Aps - Denmark

Linkedin: https://dk.linkedin.com/in/ronny-boesing-65b61720

[ohad]

thanks Ronny! nice to meet you

[e1ghtSpace]

https://blog.blockstack.org/solar-storm-a-serious-security-exploit-with-ethereum-not-just-the-dao-a03d797d98fa#.96k3gh84y

Wow, another exploit, not just in the DAO, but all of Ethereum.

I wonder what this means for Ethereum.

[jokumat]

Tauchain seems to be as unsafe as Ethereum. Eth means unlimited sscripting. Tau is even more open. Anybody can do anything with it. I don't understand how this could be more safe. Even if the language is decidable, how can this prevent exploits like "the dao hack"? Anything can be buggy. Only humans (not machines) can distinguish what is a bug and what is a functionality. So I think the problem could be the same in tau - if not worse.

[e1ghtSpace]

Tauchain seems to be as unsafe as Ethereum. Eth means unlimited sscripting. Tau is even more open. Anybody can do anything with it. I don't understand how this could be more safe. Even if the language is decidable, how can this prevent exploits like "the dao hack"? Anything can be buggy. Only humans (not machines) can distinguish what is a bug and what is a functionality. So I think the problem could be the same in tau - if not worse.

I thought tau-chain meant that code was determinable, as in, it would only do what you wanted and there would be no bugs.
That seems to be what this video is saying: https://youtu.be/1SXfYgQxsOA

[nathansonic]

Is there a real chance that Tau-Chain can overtake ethereum in the future?
I heard Microsoft is using ethereum. Why would it be better for them to use Tau-chain?

This has probably been answered before, sorry.

If Turing completeness is faulty and cannot be used appropriatley there will be no other option than to exit the position of using Turing complete technology.

For example you can see some examples of software that are accidentally turing complete my favourite example is Pokemon Yellow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness#Video_games

You can see how it is exploited here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UnB1fomvAw

This is great. Worth noting at 1:17 the user gets an offer to throw away all the ETHER. And does so.

[cryptico]

Hi @ohad I get error when launching omni wallet core and wont start

https://imgur.com/8dnxT5t

[ohad]

Hi @ohad I get error when launching omni wallet core and wont start

https://imgur.com/8dnxT5t

omg this too is why we build tau!!
unfortunately all i can do is refer you to omni's dev
fortunately they're very nice and helpful people!

[cryptico]

Hi @ohad I get error when launching omni wallet core and wont start

https://imgur.com/8dnxT5t

omg this too is why we build tau!!
unfortunately all i can do is refer you to omni's dev
fortunately they're very nice and helpful people!

No problem thx for your reply I tried to click ignore and it seems is loading the chain..lets see

[ohad]

No problem thx for your reply I tried to click ignore and it seems is loading the chain..lets see

plot thickens

[e1ghtSpace]

Is there a real chance that Tau-Chain can overtake ethereum in the future?
I heard Microsoft is using ethereum. Why would it be better for them to use Tau-chain?

This has probably been answered before, sorry.

If Turing completeness is faulty and cannot be used appropriatley there will be no other option than to exit the position of using Turing complete technology.

For example you can see some examples of software that are accidentally turing complete my favourite example is Pokemon Yellow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness#Video_games

You can see how it is exploited here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UnB1fomvAw

Hang on,
"If Turing completeness is faulty" "there will be no other option than to exit the position of using Turing complete technology."

Which one are you talking about? Unless you mean both?
From what I've heard, if you believe in Turing completeness, pick Tau-Chain.
If you believe in software being Turing Complete, pick Ethereum.
(Someone recently said this but I can't remember who)

[Propagandalf]

Is there a real chance that Tau-Chain can overtake ethereum in the future?
I heard Microsoft is using ethereum. Why would it be better for them to use Tau-chain?

This has probably been answered before, sorry.

If Turing completeness is faulty and cannot be used appropriatley there will be no other option than to exit the position of using Turing complete technology.

For example you can see some examples of software that are accidentally turing complete my favourite example is Pokemon Yellow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness#Video_games

You can see how it is exploited here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UnB1fomvAw

Hang on,
"If Turing completeness is faulty" "there will be no other option than to exit the position of using Turing complete technology."

Which one are you talking about? Unless you mean both?
From what I've heard, if you believe in Turing completeness, pick Tau-Chain.
If you believe in software being Turing Complete, pick Ethereum.
(Someone recently said this but I can't remember who)

You folks should check out Burst's ATs (automated transactions) if you are interested in smart contracts that are secure and work. It is likely a great investment opportunity as well.