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1861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 on: November 18, 2023, 01:52:11 PM
Hmmm... It seems to me that any bet on Usik with odds higher than 2.1 is profitable. At the moment, Fury is much more hyped than Usyk plus he is the favorite so it can be assumed that bookmakers base their quotes on cash flow from betters. Therefore, I will assume that these quotes poorly reflect the sports balance of power where it seems that the chances are 50 to 50.

I don't see it as 50:50. I actually agree with the odds. That's why I was curious where this Fury's 1.62 odds are posted because that's for me higher than it could actually be in reality. Usyk has a talent, yes, but if he could only win an SD against a breaking Joshua in their rematch, I can't see any reason how he could defeat a much bigger, stronger, and more confident and undefeated Fury.

This is not sumo where size and weight always help you, if Fury cannot hit Usik, then there is a chance that by the end of the fight Fury himself will fall from fatigue (haha). The question is how much faster Usik will be and how long he can remain invulnerable. It’s hard for me to guess who will be luckier - Usik or Fury, so I’m taking the basic 50/50. There were many fights where the technician wore down the knockout guy and vice versa where the knockout guy suppressed the technician with his physical power, I don’t know how it will be here. And it’s clear that they’re both techies, but there’s a similar pattern here: superior power versus speed.
1862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a mega winner say no to public presentation? on: November 18, 2023, 01:43:24 PM
I guess it depends on what State if you are in the US,

Quote
16 States Where Lottery Jackpot Winners Can Remain Anonymous

-Arizona (only for winners of $100,000+, but city and county will be revealed)
-Delaware
-Illinois (only for winners of $250,000+)
-Kansas
-Maryland
-Minnesota (only for winners of $10,000+)
-Mississippi
-Missouri
-Montana (town or city may be revealed)
-New Jersey
-New Mexico (only for winners of $10,000+, but you can request anonymity if you have security concerns)
-North Dakota
-South Carolina
-Texas (only for winners of $1 million+)
-Virginia (only for winners of $10 million+)
-West Virginia (only for winners of $1 million+)
-Wyoming

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/remain-anonymous-win-mega-millions-182448839.html

So maybe other States wanted to let everyone knows that some real person won the lottery and that it was not rigged or something and so it is allowed publicly for anyone to check.

But for me, for privacy safe I would rather remain anonymous, I don't want anyone to know that I have won the lottery.

So with that, it really depends on what State or what the laws of your country, if you can remain hidden from the public eye, the better for you.

It’s quite funny that this is spelled out in the law, although in my opinion this can be decided by the lottery organizers, and people themselves will choose where it is more convenient for them (which lottery to play). I find it a bit immoral and unnatural when the "curiosity" of the majority is satisfied at the expense of losing someone's privacy. If you don't trust that the lottery draw will be fair, how can knowing who won the jackpot convince you that everything is fair?
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 18, 2023, 01:33:01 PM
It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

Source

This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

Do you really believe that any of the big clubs will be punished? Everton received a punishment for one incident, while City are charged with 115. If even half of the claims are proven to be true, then City should be stripped of all their titles for many years and sent to the Championship. But for some reason I think that City will not be punished even for one episode out of 115  Grin
1864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 18, 2023, 01:26:54 PM
Damn you, Italy. All I needed for a great ticket to hit is for you not to win by 3+ goals difference.
Italy really isn't a team that hunts goals, I don't recall when they scored 5 times.

When North Macedonia went from 3-0 to 3-2, I already started counting the money. Still, seems that due to the importance of the game and negative experience against Macedonia in the past, the Italians decided to chase this one until the end.

Croatia and Wales on program today, hugely important round of games for us. Come on Armenia!

Have you made any multi-bet where this event was included? If so, what was the coefficient?
I reasoned exactly like you when I included Italy’s victory with a handicap of -2 goals. They really wanted to take revenge on North Macedonia and did so with will and considerable effort. As they say, it turned into something personal.
Today I hope that the Netherlands will not be lazy in front of their fans and will win with a handicap of -1 goal.
1865  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: November 18, 2023, 12:26:28 PM
А зависит от того, зачем запруживают мемпул. Если, как уже кто-то в теме писал, чтобы под ATH выбить тех, кто будет жаться заплатить огромные деньги за отправку своих сатошиков на биржу, то не раньше ATH и ещё какого-то времени после него посвободнеет мемпул. Потому что не допустить широкие массы до праздничного пирога, это вполне реально возможная тактика.

Я писал. И основное это здесь думаю "забота" о тех хомяках которые полезут в биток на пампе, а не ко тех которые уже в нем. Что выберет хомяк: получить "натуральный" биток с комсой в 100 баксов, или "такой же натуральный но на бирже" с комсой как за обычный фиатный перевод (ноль или близко к этому)? Очевидно что второй вариант. Т.е. будущий памп это загон хомяков на биржи, а вот для чего хз - то ли чтобы все сразу привыкли к стойлу, то ли мтгокснуть (выглядит вроде слишком смело, но в большой игре "прививка хомякам от желания покидать фиатную систему" очень даже норм).
И делается все это максимально топорно: нфт/ординалсы нахуй никому не упали, тема отыграна, но с каких-то хуев находятся те кто оплачивает засирание блокчейна (причем уже не только битка).
1866  Local / Идеи / Re: Хочу продать гениальную идею :) on: November 18, 2023, 11:58:01 AM
Ну ок, опустим сказки о воровстве и т.п. (я сейчас больше о страхе), что мешает собрать средства для реализации с комьюнити? До сих пор, всякие бездари с типа уникальной идеей спокойно поднимают по 500к. баксов c комьюнити (привет Pyme  Grin). Вот и из относительно свежего (не по теме крипты), ребята
под свой продукт Flipper Zero подняли почти 5 миллионов баксов (а ключевая планка была в размере 60к.$)

"Сказки" о воровстве? Вы уже переехали в волшебную страну с молочными реками и кисельными берегами?  Wink

Что касается ваших примеров, то не думаю что они релевантны: на кикстартере в основном не скидывают бабло в венчур, а лишь покупают будущий продукт. Т.е. собранные суммы это лишь сумма заказов того что будет произведено.
Что касается того что кто-то наебал (?) комьюнити, то тут тоже есть два важных момента: во-первых, это разные ситуации: какое-то комьюнити и один из его членов собирает на что-то, и ситуация когда ноунейм ищет финансирование не находясь в каком-то комьюнити. Разница в том что в первом случае кто-то уже обладает социальным капиталом.
Во-вторых, как это ни парадоксально но инвестиции в венчур это не то на что честный человек будет искать финансирование: риск прогореть близок к 100% поэтому стрёмно подписывать под такое других людей. Многие рассуждают так, мне например предлагал финансирование (в реале) друг, но я его вежливо послал.
1867  Local / Юристы / Re: Регулирование крипты в разных странах on: November 18, 2023, 11:34:07 AM
Так ведь речь идет не о росте долларизации, когда мы говорим о стейблкоинах. Стейблкоины никаким образом не увеличивают оборот реального доллара, и поэтому на экономику США позитивным образом практически не влияют, кроме случаев, когда обмениваются на фиатный доллар. Но на фиатный доллар можно обменять и любую другую криптовалюту, поэтому у стейблкоинов тут преимуществ нет. Они используются именно как криптовалюты для фиксации цены, это не какая-то часть из общей эмиссии реального доллара США.

Тогда как в пейпале наличны именно реальные доллары. Часть эмиссии. Поэтому их оборот влияет и на инфляцию, и на общее состояние экономики штатов.

Стейблы увеличивают оборот именно реального доллара. Стейблы как минимум на значительную часть обеспечены долларами поэтому оборачивая УСДТ вы пользуетесь долларами и не важно в каком они виде наличном/безналичном/криптобезналичном.
Удобство криптобаксов создаёт великолепные возможности для долларизации любых операций которые в обычных условиях вам бы не позволили произвести, например купить товар в стране А находясь в стране Б: либо идете официальным путем через банки где тугрики страны А меняете на тугрики страны Б (и вас нагревают на всех этапах) либо просто используете криптобаксы а тугрики идут лесом.
Плюс свобода хранить любые суммы в УСДТ и пересекать любые границы без потери к ним доступа/лишних сложностей тоже играет в пользу долларизации.
1868  Other / Archival / Re: Таблица Подписных Кампаний за Bitcoin on: November 18, 2023, 11:19:32 AM
Также в связи с высокими комиссиями в BTC сети предлагают перейти на LTC

Хорошая реклама биткоина, как платежного средства, на биткоин форуме, ох и лол. Биткоин лучше всех, а эти альткоины - это просто ненадежные шиткоины, не, вы видели, что было с LUNA и FTT - это типичные разговоры в англо разделе про альту, но когда биткоин в очередной раз превращается в кусок говна и совершенно не подходит для передачи ценности между пользователями, там кричат: АЛЬТКОИНЫ, ПАМАГИТЕ !!! Cheesy

Плата за постинг номинирована в баксах, если теперь выплаты будут в альтах, то кикать надо кампаху из биткоин раздела в соответствующий альткоин раздел.

Какая-то подозрительная хрень с этими ординалсами происходит - вроде тема нфт сдохла давно, а ординалсы уже и в полигоне все засрали, в LTC тоже то ли есть то ли будут. Выглядит максимально неестественно.
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 10:05:01 PM
I hope Italy remembers all the grievances from North Macedonia and will not allow them to reduce the gap in the score, but rather, on the contrary, will score a couple more goals. For me, this game is the beginning of my multi-bet and I chose that Italy will win with a handicap of -2 goals. I assumed that Italy’s failures would end and that they would be especially motivated against Macedonia. So far everything is going according to plan.
There is still time to increase the lead further but Italy have become relaxed after scoring 3 goals in the first half and North Macedonia have reduced the deficit to 1 goals as they managed to score 2 goals and the score line is now 3-2. If the match should end this way then i think you will lose your bet and despite Italy winning the match, they just keep disappointing one way or the other. They need to improve their performance if they want to make it far in the Euro if they should qualify.

I don’t think that Italy relaxed, it’s just that North Macedonia found its chances, but as I said, Italy had increased motivation, so even with the score 4-2 they went ahead and brought the matter to a major victory. Yes, the goal in the 3rd added minute was a salvation for my bet, but if we take the game as a whole, I would call this result completely logical and expected.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 17, 2023, 09:18:50 PM
This is another sad news for Everton just like that of Juventus last season, the crime they committed was not even last season, it was the 2021/2022 season. I guess EPL referring them to an independent commission in March delayed the ruling for proper investigation but the crime is obvious, financial rules were plainly breached which they also admitted. What surprises me is that could these clubs be found guilty of such a deliberate breach of rules, it's bad. The profitability and sustainability rules (PSRs) breached by Everton can't be ignorantly done, something that could cost them so much. Sanctioning them with a sporting sanction is a very good one too, it pains more than a monetary sanction. Well, they've announced they would appeal, not for the offence but for the gravity of the penalty slapped on them.

That's what clubs resolved to just like Juventus which later had a very reduced punishment compared to the first 15-point deduction slapped on them. This is where Everton is driving towards, and admitting to it is enough for the penalty to be reduced. I hope this works for them as the 19th spot on the table looks ugly and threatening, but thankfully that they won Crystal Palace on Saturday, it would have been worse for them.

The only thing that looks ugly is that Everton was punished for one episode of FFP violation, but City, which is “suspected” for 115 (LOL!) episodes, was not and will not be punished. It’s quite funny to look at those clubs that were punished for FFP - Ludogorets, Everton and the like, while City and PSG feel great from year to year.
1871  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io - UFC Fight Night 232 - Multi Master Challenge - (Saturday) on: November 17, 2023, 09:11:38 PM
13. Brendan Allen
12. Jake Matthews
11. Chase Hooper
10. Nick Aguirre
9. Luana Pinheiro
8. Uros Medic
7. Joanderson Brito
6. Chad Anheliger
5. Caio Machado
4. Lucas Alexander
3. Ailin Perez
2. Nikolas Motta
1. Rafael Estevam

NOT go the Full Distance 5
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a mega winner say no to public presentation? on: November 17, 2023, 09:07:45 PM
I created this topic as a result of this news, a young Ghanaian man won 6,000,000 GHC ($501,664) with a bet of 40 GHC. This happened few days ago and it trended on social media. Some of the comments from netizens are that the young man should leave Ghana to avoid being robbed or poisoned.

I know some of us must have seen the formal presentation of a mega winner to the public by a gambling platform. Most times, these bookies invite media outlets to their offices to cover the ceremony, so that the news could be captured on newspapers, tv, internet etc. My questions are...  Can a bettor reject being unveiled to the public? Are gambling platforms paying an extra money for the publicity?

As far as I heard, Ghana is not a safe country at all and very poor, so this half a million in winnings there is like half a billion in the USA or Europe. I don’t know what the conditions are at the bookmaker where he won the money and what the laws of Ghana are about this, so I don’t know if he can refuse to be public, but it is obvious that it is in his interests to maintain maximum confidentiality of what happened.
1873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 09:01:54 PM
Italy 3-0 at halftime against Macedonia and that is already over,i dont see a way that Macedonia at least gets a draw. This will probobly be a disaster for them. Italy with this win can secure the euros in the next match for sure and if they play like this there is no doubt.

I hope Italy remembers all the grievances from North Macedonia and will not allow them to reduce the gap in the score, but rather, on the contrary, will score a couple more goals. For me, this game is the beginning of my multi-bet and I chose that Italy will win with a handicap of -2 goals. I assumed that Italy’s failures would end and that they would be especially motivated against Macedonia. So far everything is going according to plan.
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 on: November 17, 2023, 08:55:49 PM
The odds could not be too heavily biased towards either when you look at what the bookmakers are offering because it will be a very close fight.

As far as those of us who have an interest in boxing are concerned, how many would be shocked if Usyk won the fight? I am going for a Fury win but only just, overall I think he should win the fight but Usyk could win because the two are finely balanced. Neither looked supremely good in their most recent fight therefore it became harder to make a selection.

Hmmm... It seems to me that any bet on Usik with odds higher than 2.1 is profitable. At the moment, Fury is much more hyped than Usyk plus he is the favorite so it can be assumed that bookmakers base their quotes on cash flow from betters. Therefore, I will assume that these quotes poorly reflect the sports balance of power where it seems that the chances are 50 to 50.

If I remember correctly, in the first fight against AJ, Usik was assessed as an underdog with very weak chances, and even after the second fight with AJ, the majority thought that Fury would crush Usik. Now, after Fury first showed his uncertainty by avoiding the fight, and then showed his poor form in the fight with Ngannou, the circumstances for the quotes have changed. No one will be surprised by any outcome. It’s funny that in the end the fight could be dominated by Fury (due to his size and advantage in physical strength) or Usik (due to technique and speed), but before the fight the chances are really about 50 to 50. Therefore, for me personally, the skew of odds in favor of Fury lies in the area of cash flow and not in the area of how bookmakers assess their strength.
1875  Local / Майнеры / Re: Глобальные новости крипто-майнинга on: November 17, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Занимательную картинку откопал на CoinGecko, правда не совсем свежая, августовская.

Картинка показывает сколько электроэнергии потребляется за 1 час добычи биткойнов. (это если брать соло майнера в среднем по идее)



Количество единиц, используемых для добычи 1 BTC /час, не так уж разительно, как можно было бы подумать, по сравнению с другими бытовыми приборами. Подтверждается мнение о том, что биткоин не так опасен, как его изображают различные СМИ. Это переосмысливает представление о воздействии биткоина на окружающую среду.

Круто конечно, но думаю очень грубо подсчитано, но сам факт что о таких штуках задумываются меня радует.

 Grin Я стесняюсь спросить вы за квартиру сами платите или с родителями живете этим занимается ваш бухгалтер и вы не в курсе?
Любой оплачивающий счета увидев, что добыча битка это как три круглосуточно работающих сплита, подумает что это просто жесть как дорого и далеко небезопасно (для кошелька).

Ну и картинка туфта конечно, это всего лишь потребление одного майнера, так что хз что автор картинки хотел показать.
1876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: November 17, 2023, 05:56:52 PM
~snip
I find myself bored during international break, have absolutely no patience to watch that kind of football, good thing we have a nice tennis and snooker tournaments going on.

it was interesting before, but now with most countries qualifying due to increased number of participants on Final tournament, it does not making sense to watch anymore
looking at South America qualifications, group has 10 teams, where 6 go directly and 7th is going to another qualifications
it is more interesting to see who will end-up not-qualifying then who will go to WC 2026, Venezuela is doing better than expected for now, so Paraquay will be maybe that team that can qualify even if all teams are going through

True. Most of the qualifying is routine and all that remains is to wait for the death games (either in groups or in an additional tournament for the losers where there are knockout games). Considering that it is now very easy to qualify for both the World Cup and the European Championship, qualifying tournaments are gradually turning into an unnecessary tournament like the Nations League. For small teams, every game has meaning, but I think most fans are interested in the top teams.
1877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 17, 2023, 05:44:14 PM
To be honest, I'm not surprised that Rudi Garcia was let go by Napoli. And those whispers of player dissatisfaction? The squad wasn't exactly winning under his leadership. Anything like that is never good. They made the proper decision, in my opinion. Football management is a hard business, and occasionally adjustments are required. Currently, I'm not sure how I feel about Mazzarri's comeback. While his prior tenure may not have been revolutionary, winning the Italian Cup is nonetheless a noteworthy accomplishment. Perhaps now is his chance to return with new tactics and insights. This time around, he has a different squad, which might be the biggest factor. Before making assumptions, let's give the guy a chance

In fact, it is difficult to judge how right the management is because now Napoli have not the best results but not the worst either. They have just returned to their usual level, they cannot be higher than it every season like they were last season. We are not saying that it’s time to fire Milan’s coach, although the results there are almost the same, plus Milan has a much lower chance of qualifying for the 1/8 of the Champions League than Napoli.
1878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 17, 2023, 03:11:29 PM
According to the rules of the draw, the team that takes first place will have to play the team that took second place, so really strong opponents should not face Bayern in 1/8. Naturally, this does not mean that Bayern will automatically receive a ticket to the quarter-finals, I think everyone remembers how Villarreal unexpectedly knocked Bayern out of the tournament the season before last. But still, I assume that for some of the favorites this season will be the easiest in history.
There are always surprises in football and this is what makes football even more interesting.
Currently the team is struggling to qualify for the round of 16 by being at the top of the group standings because indirectly during the draw they will get a slightly easier opponent compared to having to meet the team leading the group standings which is definitely a strong team.
~

By the way, I see a funny pattern: last season, Bayern took first place in a very difficult group (Inter + Barcelona), but immediately in the 1/8 they received a very serious opponent - PSG (with a supposedly stellar lineup in the form of Neymar and Messi). This season the situation may repeat itself again as PSG plays in the group of death and the situation there is extremely confusing. It’s just a pity that PSG has a more serious squad this season, and although Bayern itself has strengthened, I think it will be more difficult to beat PSG this time.
1879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 17, 2023, 03:02:20 PM

Apparently those who compiled this rating had problems with free space, because there are three more players who scored 7 goals: Budimir, Mayoral, Lewandowski. It's hard to say who will win the golden boot, since Bellingham and Griezmann are midfielders, Lewandowski is in decline, Morata is consistently inconsistent (haha), and the rest are not players of dominant clubs.

I think they should have ranked it using Types of goals (pk), assists and also league appearances. None the less; i think the season highest goalscorer is not on the list yet. As you mentioned Bellingham and Griezmann are midfielders and cannot score consistentyly until the end of the season. I think Greizmann can win this; or Morata as  well. But then again; time will tell

I think there is no need to complicate the situation with additional indicators, they can be accessed when the main results (number of goals) are equal. At the moment there is no clear leader and a whole group of players are vying for the golden boot, but given the performance of Kane (and Haaland) it will be a local prize. Until Real Madrid sign a top striker, it looks like the golden boot of the European season will not return to La Liga.
1880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 17, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
For top clubs, to some extent, the main requirement for a coach is that he does not spoil anything in the first place. It is difficult to expect (with such a composition and dominance as, for example, Bayern) a result in the national championship other than the title. The figure of the coach is not very important here. On the other hand, in the Champions League there are no guarantees even for the top team and top coach (for example, City and the paper best coach Guardiola). Therefore, if we think logically, there is nothing wrong with hiring a young coach (who has already proven himself).
With the players he currently has, Xabi Alonso is able to bring Laverkusen consistently in two competitions, especially if he coaches a club like Real Madrid or Bayern Munchen he will definitely be successful with various trophies. However, it seems that Xabi will find it difficult to refuse if he gets an offer to train from these two clubs, even though his contract will end in June 2026. Only a very few players are successful when changing their role to become a coach, in the sense that he is equally good in both roles, Xabi is able to balance it very well.

It is reported that Xabi release clause is quite large, namely around 18 million Euros, that is a fairly large figure for a coach, but for clubs like Madrid, Bayern and Liverpool who are reportedly interested in him, it is not difficult to come up with a figure of that amount. However, so far there has been no official news about where Xabi future is heading, even though we know that Madrid needs a new manager at the end of the season and it is rumored that Xabi will be approaching the Santiago Bernabeu.

This is an insignificant amount given the general state of affairs on the market, plus I don’t think that if Xabi agrees to move to Real Madrid, this entire amount will be paid, most likely Real will “peacefully” agree with Bayer on less compensation.
Considering how poorly things are going for the Brazilian national team (yesterday they suffered a second defeat in a row), the need for changes there is obvious and the first candidate, according to rumors, is Ancelotti. I think Real are already preparing the transfer of Xabi, behind the scenes for now.
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