But the hash they get from mp is just the salted serverseed and without the help of mp, appowner has no clue about its real value. So he does not know if it would make the player win or lose, which makes that option useless for cheating no ?
And if the hash doesnt fit to the one used in the bet which goes trough, then the bet wont be verified I guess ?
I'm not sure if the apps actually even check if the hash fits to the seed used in the bet tho :S
So if theres a cookie stored in browser with a hash and the cookie gets for whatever reason changed. Does mp check the cookie when the user sends the betdata to the server ?
I'd guess they do, so with a malicious cookie the bet wouldnd go trough = hasherror ?
hi I have the feeling you know what you are talking about and I find your questions very interesting and helpful to find out what is possible and not. really eager to see the result what could be done and who and how and if at all. thx for that Just trying to explain it to myself with describing the steps in a simple way, so that they are understandable for everyone. I can imagine pretty good that it's not easy for a dev to explain himself to someone who doesnt have the same knowledge. Usually they talk about devthings with other devs so its hard to even realize that the one hes talking to, doesnt have it and that it would make sense to explain it in a simple way. That is what I noticed long ago in school of traineeship. Some teachers have knowledge but they cant explain it in a simple way. That ends in pupils who hate the teacher and dont understand anything. But thats a bit off topic now I guess =P another very good answer and all makes perfect sense. I learned to ask and ask and ask again till I understand what I need to understand. but most of the time teachers or non teachers just dont have the patience or as you said they dont have the knowledge to explain it in a simple way. therefore I am askin many times for ELI5  and I am not shy to ask lets see if we get an ELI5 answer to our problem. for us it is important to know if this cookie issue gives us the option to cheat? gives MP the option to cheat? gives a player the option to cheat or gives a scott hamper bot the option to cheat whomever in short we want to eliminate any option of cheating if it exists through our app because we dont want to cheat and we dont want to be cheated thx for your Q&A The answer is "no," "no," and "no." |
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How stupid you have to be to actually deposit money into this kind of scam BS? What kind of mindless opportunistic moron one have to be to expect profit from this knowing that even if you do get paid, your profit comes from money stolen from other people.
WHOEVER lost money here, DESERVED IT. Be smarter next time and to not feed crypto scammers. Crypto is a beautiful industry and does not deserve this kind of scam stuff.
It's not a scam. A scam insinuates people who gave them money didn't understand what they were getting into. Every single person here that sent in money knew EXACTLY what they were doing, therefore it's not a scam. If I ask you to give me $5 and promise never to return it, and you give it to me, does that mean you were scammed? No. You knew exactly what the outcome was going to be. Same situation here. |
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Does JPR or any app owner know the outcome before hand. No.
To expand on this a little, app owners are paid win or lose, so they have no benefit in forcing a player to lose, even if they were able to do so. |
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WOW Legion back in stock, price is only $29/key, BTC, LTC and PM accepted.
Is this for NA or EU? Looks like the others are for EU but this one doesn't specify. Also, happen to do 30/60-day keys for NA? |
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I can't trust a site from a new account. Willing to contact me with your main account so I know who I'd be dealing with in this? Not against getting involved with new sites, but when there's an unknown party as well, it doesn't sit right at all.
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This site is a scam for anyone who has not had the time to read through the whole thread. DO NOT INVEST HERE OR PLAY HERE. You will lose everything you send instantly.
It's not a scam, it's a Ponzi. Everyone in this thread was well aware of this. If they sent funds and lose them, it's their fault. You can't be "scammed" when you know for a fact you're taking a high risk of not getting anything back. |
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Title says all.
Paying via Bitcoins, looking to get cheaper than from Blizzard's official site.
Drop me PM, lets work deal together.
ALSO LOOKING FOR BATTLE.NET GIFT CARDS!
Not sure if EU is the same as NA, but as a heads-up, at least on NA, if you sign up for the trial instead of buying it, you'll get a discount offer to snag the base game (and everything up to Legion) for $9.99. Best deal you're going to find, by far. And that includes the first 30 days! |
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This weeks winners have been paid out  Very nice volume you pulled this week! Congrats on that, . |
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Signed up on the site. Doesn't look like there's been much going on since the thread was created, but I'm all for gaming projects so hope to see this go somewhere!
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Almost 400 BTC invested and no one willing to buy more even lower then ICO. That's not a good sign!  The important part is the fundamental. If you believe in the project/coin, lower prices = good. If you don't, you shouldn't care how high they are because you won't be involved. It was made very clear from day 1 how things work, so those who are complaining right now obviously didn't read before throwing their money in. |
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Ok thanks for the reports. Any idea when it happened? I'll pay you guys the max this week, but please keep it open to keep finding issues like this; that's what testing is for ;p I just need to figure out what is making that happen, because all of you are very close to the same amount
You should be earning a max of 14.4 per day, I believe
I haven't been watching it but I'm at 41.9 as of this post, if that helps with anything. |
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Let's not let this thread get off track. Everyone knows 99.999999% of doublers are scams and there is no difference here.
99.999999%? Try 100%. Why? Simple math. Let's go with the 2x every 24h ones. Day 1) $10 Day 10) $5,120 Day 30) $5,368,709,120 Day 60) $56,295,000,000,000,000,000 All it takes is 2 months to turn $10 into more than the entire world, including all property, items for sale in any store, all cash and materials ever created, etc. Seems legit. Just amazed that one site finally figured out the trick to these unseen riches and decided to share it with others. The previous one linked in this thread would have you at something like 2 quadrillion (2,000 trillion) within the first two months off your initial $10 investment. |
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Hello, Being in a position of helping people in debt with their homes it has been fulfilling for me but a serious fight and sometimes even dangerous. Financial institutions as you know have a monopoly on everything and can do what they want with individual’s accounts, homes, possession and lives. Recently I was conducting research on Puerto Rico and reviewing the state that it is currently in which is sad but at the same time brings opportunity not only for on self but for others also. In my younger days my father was stationed in Ceiba as I remember he had a conversation with another high ranking armed forces member about that will happen to the Island once the military shuts down Roosevelt Roads and how it would be payback to the pro-independence forces that wanted it removed, now 25 years later I can say Pop’s was right. 2004 Article “The end of Puerto Rican municipalities used for target practice is positive because of the dangers it poses, but there is also concern that the closing of Roosevelt Roads may lead to greater economic hardship because of Puerto Rico’s colonial dependency on the United States. According to the Navy, the base poured about $300 million into the local economy. The base was staffed by 5,500 people and provided jobs for 2,000 local civilians.” “Some view the closing of the Roosevelt Road base in a different light. U.S. Rep. José Serrano (D-N.Y.) said the closing of Roosevelt Roads was in retaliation for the struggle to end the bombing of Vieques. “I see this closure as a punishment,” he said, because the “withdrawal of the U.S. Navy from Vieques was a victory for the Puerto Rican community.” 2016 -12 YEARS LATER - Article “The Puerto Rican government failed to pay almost half of $2 billion in bond payments due Friday, marking the commonwealth’s first-ever default on its constitutionally guaranteed debt. Gov. Alejandro García Padilla defended the historic decision by highlighting the island’s tense relationship with Wall Street firms that own its debt. Some of these firms stand to lose money as a result of Friday’s nonpayment. Major insurers backing Puerto Rico’s debt could also be forced to pay out as much as hundreds of millions of dollars to bondholders. Puerto Rico’s nearly decade-long economic recession has led to people leaving the island for the mainland in numbers not seen in more than 50 years, new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data has found.” A coincidence you say?? Now let’s look at the big funds---- Hedge fund billionaire ---- -------- has been buying a lot of sand lately -- specifically, Puerto Rican sand. Despite Puerto Rico's massive debt crisis, Paulson sees big profits ahead. He has plowed "quite a bit" -- an estimated $1.5 billion -- of his personal wealth into buying hotels, a resort and office buildings on the island. ------- compares Puerto Rico today to Miami in the 1980s. SOLUTION [/b] Help yourself while helping others introducing the “ BTC” a coin that will be backed by mortgage notes, solar leases and real-estate in Puerto Rico. There are certain strategies that can be utilize to acquire mortgage notes and REO’s on the island at a significant discount as well as sourcing discounted solar equipment I am looking for any innovative investors who are willing to entertain ideas and potentially a crowd share for launch as well as any developers who would like to take part in this! I have more information I am willing to share if messaged with an interest so don’t hesitate lets discus. Best…AZ Interested in hearing but you're in a tough position here. You're a newer user, asking for funds, for a system you want to employ in a country that is far away from where most live (i.e., harder to pursue). That said, always willing to entertain ideas and see where it goes. |
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PM sent to you about statistical information. Please respond.
I didn't received for some reason. Pming you now. I'd like to see information as well. Including how you can guarantee you won't run... |
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Hi Bob Looks like a good offer. If monthly interest is 5%, does it means, I deposited 1 BTC as principle, 30 days later I will get back 1.05 BTC? How is the interest being paid out? Is it possible to withdraw the principle? Yes, You are going to get 1.05 BTC after 30 days. At the end of the monthly period, I am contacting with you for the wallet adress etc. Best And what happens if you lost the funds? This isn't risk-free. You need transparency. |
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It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business.
Yeah lol. I guess if you've ripped the IRS off, you're feeling scared and not thinking straight. The most devious scam along those lines I've heard, is they find a husband and wifes phone number. They call the husband when he's at work and pretend to be the phone carrier: "Hey, this is AT&T, we're calling to let you know we're upgrading your phone speed! blah blah blah. But you will need to turn your phone off for 1 hour, is that ok?" Then after the husband turns off his phone, they call the wife and tell her they've kidnapped the husband -- and she needs to immediately transfer money or he's going to be killed. Then they send her the transfer details. Obviously the first thing she tries to do is contact her husband, but can't and then makes the transfer. Truly awful :/ This one's been growing in number big time lately. People will seriously do anything to make a dollar. There was a news report about someone who got a call about her "daughter" that was kidnapped... while they were together. So she brought it to light on social media and other places. |
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On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline.
Are you sure it's not just an empty threat? I've got quite a few threats asking for money, with *zero* follow-through, just in the off change they get paid. Every time someone serious has attacked one of my sites, they've always DDoS to the point it's offline, with the timeframes of when the demo attack will stop and then asking for money before the attack goes on again. Although even they have tended to get bored pretty quickly when it's obvious they're never going to get paid. Cloudflare actually made a good blog post about some of the fake ddos threats: https://blog.cloudflare.com/empty-ddos-threats-meet-the-armada-collective/Here's the saddest part: Our conclusion was a bit of a surprise: we've been unable to find a single incident where the current incarnation of the Armada Collective has actually launched a DDoS attack. In fact, because the extortion emails reuse Bitcoin addresses, there's no way the Armada Collective can tell who has paid and who has not. In spite of that, the cybercrooks have collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in extortion payments.
It reminds me a lot of the calls people get "from the IRS" demanding they either pay the "IRS" using Western Union wires or they will go to prison, and there are people wiring tens of thousands of dollars to avoid jail time. To the "IRS" that is apparently not even in the U.S. Like someone wired their money to Panama. I'm like... really? And it's apparently a multi-million dollar business. |
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You mean if you pay him, he would never come back and do it again when he/she/they want more bitcoin? Yeah, paying those assholes is a lose-lose situation. You support a criminal, and set yourself up as a sucker who is known to give out money. It's a lot better to be known as someone who won't pay a cent even if your site goes down, than someone who will. Keep fighting the good fight  On an interesting note, they claim to have kept our site down for the past few hours (based on wording in the emails). There's been zero slowdown or anything, though, so either they don't know what a DDoS is or I don't. Because we clearly have differing opinions on what it means to take a site offline. |
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xubu i will use one of these for review and run the proper tests to make sure they are the correct one that way people will be more willing to buy from you
I can make the same offer (verifying card, posting data/imagery to show the results). |
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Is the autoroller going to be usable on this as well?
Yes Awesome! This is a huge addition. I've tried to mimic dice using Plinko but it fails, to a great extent. Great to see a native version coming. 6 days! |
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