+1

Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.

I'm all for fair competition, but FC hasn't exactly been playing fair.
If u come on board with NEX, that is going to confuse things a lot and give FC a serious boost, while damaging NXT.
Like it or not, u are seen as a pivotal figure in the development of NXT, and helping NEX will give a sort of "official" NXT clone status to NEX that it doesn't deserve.

FC wants to launch his own NXT-clone, fine, let him launch it on his own.

Edit: @ Damelon: posted some thoughts on the A'dam BTC conference on:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2277.0.html

I'm tempted to say, let him burn.

BUT: if he makes a complete bollocks of NEX (which looks likely) there are gonna be a lot of disappointed people. And, right or wrong, some of that disappointment will reflect badly on NXT.

We certainly need to continue to spam his thread hard, to make it obvious to even the most brain-dead that they will probably end up with nothing. That is also a good marketing strategy, hassle the fake while promoting the genuine NXT. I don't like negative markting, but in FCs case I'll make an exception.

Or we could just hire a Byelorussian hitman from the unclaimed coins.....


@Utopianfuture: voted half an hour ago.....

Open bounty, volunteer commitee. If a whale wants to reward them somewhere down the line, fine, but it shouldn't be a case of "let me on the commitee, give me some of that lovely free NXT"

OK, time to organise my semi-random thoughts and inflict them on the Nxt community.


First off:   +100 to Comes-on-Beyonce for financing salsacz in his marketing efforts out of his own pocket. Nice move.


On the marketing vs devs front: stop bitching each other up.
Devs need marketing, marketeers need product. Nxt needs both sides of the coin to be a success.

Nxt has come a long way on the strength of grass-roots marketing and community activism. This is (as I've said 10⁶ times) Nxts greatest strength; the community support. We need to continue this effort, and help finance the guys who are making this happen.

I need to throw down a definition here: I'm going to define marketing as pretty much any action that helps to bring Nxt into the public eye, while I see advertising as being the use of (semi-) traditional media (TV, radio, print, web) to throw a message in the face of a mass audience of Joe Public (ie non-techie people).

I'm totally in favour of marketing right now to the more tech-savvy community (crypto-freaks, nerds/web users in general) but I feel that mass market advertising will be a complete waste of time and money and maybe even counter-productive.
If we get Joe Public to sign up to NXT and his/her first experience is a tricky set-up process (or losing funds) they will get the hell out of Nxt very quickly and warn other people to avoid us.

tl:dr: Marketing good, mass market advertising bad. (right now)
Marketing dudes should carry on with the current grass-roots activism, devs should make sure that we have a better and improved Nxt experience, for example one-click clients + account locking/security.


On the marketing front: I've just checked out FrictionlessCoins NEX bollocks, and the one overwhelming impression I get is that people will go mad for it if they can maybe get something for free.

I propose that we use some of the unclaimed coins for a big give-away action. Hand out big fistfuls of NXT to the people who have been supporting NXT over the last couple of months (maybe by weighting this thread contribution, to include me, of course) and then carry on with random give-aways to new Nxt'ers.

And one big give-away to a public figure/charity. All give aways will bring people in, rewarding the established community will give us a warm fuzzy feeling, and a big public figure/charity give away will get lots of coverage in mainstream news media without Nxt having to pay for advertising.

This brings me to voting: we need to get the voting system sorted out.
Which brings me to the complete f**king nightmare that this thread is becoming. We need to hive off debate threads to one of the other 2 forums, so that we can concentrate on one topic at hand, not all the topics all of the time.

Having said that, I'm off to the Nextcoin.org forum:

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2277.0.html

to see what we can do about the Amsterdam BTC conferences.

Bag of crisps.....possibly salt 'n' vinegar if I'm feeling generous.

But still:

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"  - Charles C. Colton

I am so running out of facepalm here.....

But at least this thread has provided with a priceless insight into the sheer gullibility of some elements of the BitcoinTalk community.
I'm getting a mailing list together for the launch of EvilCoin.......watch this space, and get ready to go 2 da moooonnn!!!!

Bloody hell, I need to go to bed. 4.00 am in Amsterdam......
Keep buying the NXT, onwards and upwards.....

Dude:
I like yr effort on trying to sort out one of the nastier scams in crypto. +10, I might be wrong, but I get the feeling that u r fairly genuine.
Maybe all of the peeps who are looking for a real investment, not just a comedy troll fight between FrictCoin and the NXT posse, should get over to your thread and throw some love in your direction.

(And dont feel bad about the page count, it's content that counts)

only got salt and vinegar, but here ya go..... <throws Damelon a bag>

I'm gonna be richer, unless..........r u really a Klingon?

I'd rather have a million ixCoin......please?

I think its really unfair that people who bought lots of ixCoin have more than me.

Hope u made some profit on them.
If u decide to get back in, just ask for some help on the install. It's not all that difficult, but it is a multi-step process:

Download client (5.8 at the moment), links at the start of the thread.
Remember to verify the SHA256 hash.....
Read this entire thread.....

Install/update Java.
Install update yr anti-virus/malware and run a scan.

Run the NRS Java client from the command line  (tricky bit), .bat file useful here.

Connect to the local NRS Java process using yr browser : localhost:7874

Create a really, really, really secure passphrase. 30 characters or more.

Input that passphrase to creat an account.   Passphrase = account.  Do not lose it......

Enjoy!

Seems like a lot of work for a troll.....he might be better off just coming over to the dark side with us.

"We are the NXT. Lower your shields and surrender your Bitcoins. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. You will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. "

To any newbies or confused bystanders:

This thread is a troll directed against NXT, dont expect anything to actually happen that will make u richer.

But if u've got nothing better to do, grab some beer and chips, put yr feet up and watch the game......

And I thought FC had more style than the average troll...this is sad,  sad, and sadder.

Errr...the hex string in question is just a big number in decimal: 3.39197779385E+27 is what it converts back to.
Might be possible that someone is running a bruteforce attack on all the numbers, but seeing that 3 accounts on the same PC were compromised at the same time, malware/trojan is a much more likely explanation.

Getting a feeling of deja-vu here, feels like the EpicThomas story again

Are there any trojans out there with the ability to read copy/pasted text ? Not very up to date with the magical world of malware.

Just changed my mind, after reading the above posts.
Implement the lock, and use it in cases like this.
Either it's a real hack, or someone trying to game the community. Result will be the same, no possibilty to get the NXT out into BTC or fiat.

And for fucks sake, stop using software to generate passwords.
Use yr brain, thats what it's there for.

Gone quiet all of a sudden....

That was an interesting day, to say the least.

Good moment for my 2 cents worth:

Unclaimed 10 million NXT: like the idea of giving it to 10 unknown accounts, don't like the idea of putting a lock mechanism into the code.
Unless the lock is actually a properly planned feature, we shouldn't finagle the code just for one-off situations.
Be a good idea for the 10 accounts to submit their real-world identities to an trusted Nxt'er, such as Anon136 or rickyjames.

Destroying the 10 mill is such a bad idea, i could cry. (Just give it to me, I'll see how quickly I can burn thru it)

Amsterdam Bitcoin conferences: I'm up to help, maybe with getting promo material sorted out. We need to form a working group to get moving on this. Maybe even a real-world meet-up in the not-to-distant future.....no clowns allowed, tho'  


Love the price at the moment, but keep looking to the long term, guys. NXT has not arrived yet, but we do have a very good start.

Onwards and upwards.

and busy forging away like a good 'un.

Just seen CoinMarketCap....NXT up 116.81%. I'm laughing like a hyena.......