I thingK this coin have potential
yes; pls include me in the issue.. thx
Fixed it for ya, bro. |
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How it will work is:
Frictionless will continue to brag about how NEX is better than NXT, even though he can only copy it. He claims he is adding new features, but in reality the NXT team is doing all the things he claims he is doing. As soon as the NXT team makes a release, frictionless will claim he did it.
As to what people will get, only time will tell. The distribution method keeps changing and it seems that frictionless has 100% control over all aspects of NEX distribution. Will it really be fair? What can anybody do if it isn't? If frictionless is actually writing code and adding features, it would be a different story, but his idea of writing code is decompiling NXT code. also, since NXT source is supposed to be so bad according to him, why on earth is he using any NXT source code at all. Shouldn't he simply write an entirely new version from scratch?
Why did he steal all of NXT marketing materials, just changed "NXT" to "NEX", sometimes he didn't even both to do this. Why would someone spend so much time if he isn't planning on making a profit somehow. Where do you think that profit will come from?
Some cloned version of NXT that is exactly the same tech as NXT without anything new except a genesis block. Just don't send any BTC or NXT to him, and certainly don't burn any. All you will get back is worthless NEX. Without a community, trading market, etc. NEX will have no real world value.
NXT already has half a dozen exchanges, fiat gateways, over ten thousand stakeholders, and on and on. New releases come out weekly, sometimes more often.
His claim that 50 NEX for one NXT is generous is absurd. That is 0.02 ratio, basically he is saying that NEX already has the peak LTC/BTC ratio LTC ever got, when NEX is so far totally vapor and a 100% clone of NXT. When LTC got the 0.02 ratio ($50 LTC), it was already on major exchanges, accepted in many websites, etc. It also actually had a speed improvement over BTC.
At best NEX is a joke, at worst it will be a scam that leaves anybody that puts anything into it without anything.
If you want one billion coins without any market, you can do that yourself without NEX. Just issue it using NXT asset exchange.
James
+1 Maybe we should float nex over the NXT asset exchange, and allow all of the "interested" dudes here first bite at them ? And maybe someone here should ask some questions about the iXcoin premine ? Eh, eh, fair distribution, eh? I actually like iXcoin, can I have some of your premine, please, FC? |
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There are a lot of crypto's out there that will give u a good return on your investment over time, but sitting here and hoping that u will get a big bag of magic beans from nex and FC in exchange for nothing is not very realistic.
So the 71 founders in NXT are the only one's who deserve to make a killing investing 21 BTC? With NEX you invest zero and you lose zero. Can't beat that! Did I mention founders ? Or NXT, except en passant, in the same sentence as DOGE. U really must stop obsessing about the NXT initial distro, FC, old chap. If u had put half the energy u've wasted here into getting iXcoin up and rocking, u might be a lot happier. |
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I'm interested in this...but as others say it's unclear what's going on and how we get a stake. Answers please?
When are ready to distribute the coin, we will go through this list and allocate the resources. We will then request that the user submit their NEX address. U gonna weight the distro by posting history? |
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For crying out loud, guys. Have u actually read any of this thread ? Or this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.0Can u not see that u are all being used by FC in a personal vendetta against NXT ? This is pretty much the last time that I am going to bother trying to save any of you: Go and invest your hard won cash/BTC/whatever into a currency that will actually go somewhere. I don't care if it's NXT or DOGE, Bitcoin, Bitbar, LottoCoins, Peercoin, Namecoin, CraftCoin.....etc. Shit, give it to GetVisacoin, at least he is trying to do something positive for people. There are a lot of crypto's out there that will give u a good return on your investment over time, but sitting here and hoping that u will get a big bag of magic beans from nex and FC in exchange for nothing is not very realistic. |
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Yes, they are manipulated by big traders. Just like every other exchange in this universe, so don't worry 2 much about it. |
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Hey People, I try to login on the terminal on mac, after installed the new client, I type Cd / ''name of the map'' / nxt In terminal nothing happens, After that I type Cd / java -jar start.jar , to start the client, but once again nothing happens... Does somebody now what I should do? Many thanks  Oke I posted this for the fourth time now, sorry for that. But Please people, Is there anybody who can help me out with this? Love to help, don't know shit about the command line on Macs, but it can't be that hard. Could u take some screenshots what u r doing/seeing in your terminal window and PM them to me, I'll see if I can spot any obvious problems. |
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there are many online manager games with their currency - credits, there are online trading card games - also with credits for buying cars, there are MMORPG games... travian.. so the future of Nxt could be very big if we could somehow buy credits to the World of Warcraft (etc) by Nxt and speculate with them
world of tanks better:) + 10........i remember a time when I actually enough free time to play WoT. Stupid NXT...... Not a bad idea, tho, like CraftCoin for Minecraft, but (say) NxtGold in World of Tanks. |
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fair distribution of bitcoin ? lol it was released on a crypto mailing list (so how is it fair if you release it only to a very restrict group of people). for months 10 people mined it....then some gamers started mining it (i believe cos it got posted on on blizzard forums).....then by the time it ever got popular mining it required investment in graphic cards...and then asics completely killed it for the average joe....was everything but fair distribution.
NXT is already more distribiuted than bitcoin ever was in its first 2 months ., where only 20 or so people mined it.
5 years on and less than 1000 own more than 50% of bitcoins. if NXt is to survive 5 years i bet its distribution will be much wider than that.
But with bitcoin it was fair because the first miners had a very huge risk. Only from your current perspective you could say it is unfair, but actually these guys were like revolutionists who were thinking differently and therefore their past reward can be considered fair from todays perspective. Everyone interested in the matter could have joined 4 years ago, or 3 years ago or now and nobody would say it is unfair. In contrast an IPO (initial public offering) is ridiculous in the context of a network which is maintained by open-source software. Everyone could just copy the software and create their alternative network with exactly the same properties. So there is no value and therefore an IPO makes no sense. The risk of what exactly? Burning out a GPU ? |
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i dont understand. why are you asking people to run your 'nex' client with all the NXT files and build in NXT-genesis block?
Ssshhhhhh....don't tell anyone, but he's not actually got the skillz on board to pull this off. The nex community doesn't look very promising either. Hmmmm....lets see.......we've got FrictionlessCoin on the tech side and FrictionlessCoin on the marketing, FrictionlessCoin handling community liaison, FrictionlessCoin contacting the exchanges, FrictionlessCoin organising an audit on the software and FrictionlessCoin making the tea. Any one I missed out on ? I suspect there may be a sock puppet or two, there are more than a couple of idiots, (like the guy who sold all his NXT at the start of today, just before a near 100% rise...classic) and a hell of a lot of people who want something for nothing. And nothing appears to be exactly how much help FC is gonna get from his/nex community......this is going to be very funny at the end. |
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Time to repeat myself:
My proposal: small group of guys organise, throw up a quick and dirty voting website as soon as possible, taking as much community feedback into account as possible.
We vote, see how it goes, then change/modify/tweak the voting system until the flood of complaints about it are reduced to a minimum.
Once the site is working to (almost) everyones satisfaction, transfer that functionality into the Nxt client(s)
I propose: utopianfuture, smartwart, coolmist (and anyone else who feels really strongly about it or has the tech skills to get a site up) form a working group and throw something up on the Webs to try out.
I've answered you already! We stopped because CfB said there will be a built-in voting system, so there is no point in making the site now if VS will be done in a week. Fair enough, bro, but your site seems to be more of a forum polling system, as far as i can see. Nothing wrong with that but I was proposing that we set-up a full voting system, to test out various voting concepts, such as 1NXT=1vote or 1 account= 1 vote before applying the knowledge gained there to the full VS, when it gets implemented. Is the VS actually going to be up and running in one week? And coming back to the point of this whole debate: how are votes going to be counted? BTW>>>>NXT 2 the moon, looks like its about to hit the magic 0.000100000 on DGEX |
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I don't know if someone else read betwen the lines but... ...lots of text.... NXT can handle all transactions from all ***coins that are out today together? I think this will become really huge... think about Bitcoin on top of NXT  Sorry, I'm dreaming... This reminds me of my last thought last night before I headed to bed: We all know that the banhammer is coming down on Bitcoin (and other cryptos) very soon in China.
We also all know that NXT will soon have an integrated Asset Exchange, freeing us from needing to use 3rd party exchanges such as DGEX, BTER, etc, and that this feature will be very useful in the current Chinese environment. No exchanges, true peer-2-peer currency exchange.
The possibly crazy concept here is : will it be possible (or can it be implemented?) to exchange other cryptos such as Bitcoin thru the NXT asset exchange, or an add-on to the AE?
If NXT could become a backdoor into (or out of) China for all other cryptos, things could get very interesting.
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Time to repeat myself:
My proposal: small group of guys organise, throw up a quick and dirty voting website as soon as possible, taking as much community feedback into account as possible.
We vote, see how it goes, then change/modify/tweak the voting system until the flood of complaints about it are reduced to a minimum.
Once the site is working to (almost) everyones satisfaction, transfer that functionality into the Nxt client(s)
I propose: utopianfuture, smartwart, coolmist (and anyone else who feels really strongly about it or has the tech skills to get a site up) form a working group and throw something up on the Webs to try out.
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Yeah, this is getting ridiculous, we usually fill 30 pages of voting arguments with no results. I still think we need to keep it tied with AM, so it can be easily implemented into a client down the road. Think of like this, I want to start a voting topic using weslyn web tool, I fill in the parameters, it creates a Nxt account specific to that topic, everyone votes by sending me a public AM "Yes" or "No". I can then check for duplicates, blockchain height, etc.. when tallying votes. The block chain wins because forgers are rewarded with Nxt used to vote.
Yup, I've had enough, we keep going thru the same cycle over and over without any progress. Hence my idea of setting up a voting website to function as a testbed for the voting process. Once the voting site has been used, modified and tweaked , and is working to (almost) everyones satisfaction, we can transfer its feature set into NXT client. |
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Hey...look at the price !!!
Cool , eh?
Edit: Now in 5th place on CoinMarketCap, just rolled over Mastercoin. Go, NXT!
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I have an idea.... the common enemy.... lets all blame nexern because we have no client  Engage..... Pin Bad nexern....... Meanwhile, back at the voting debate: I'm getting a headache from this, it's like organising cats. My proposal: small group of guys organise, throw up a quick and dirty voting website as soon as possible, taking as much community feedback into account as possible. We vote, see how it goes, then change/modify/tweak the voting system until the flood of complaints about it are reduced to a minimum. I propose: utopianfuture, smartwart, coolmist (and anyone else who feels really strongly about it or has the tech skills to get a site up) form a working group and throw something up on the Webs to try out. |
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@ erok: Peercoin looks like a good bet, but it, and all other 1st gen cryptos are very limited in their functionality. The thing about NXT is that it is not just a simple crypto-currency, but an entire eco-system that can be built on the blockchain. If u can imagine it, u can probably implement it in NXT. And NXT has an amazing communiity behind it. Just have a look at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.0Don't try to read it all, just skim it and get an idea of what NXT is all about. |
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Bloody hell, voting again. Way things are going, we'll all be dollar millionaires with very long beards by the time we finally agree on how to vote. How about we just cut to the chase and try out a quick and dirty voting implementation and see how it works? Set up a site, not in-client in any way. Take a snapshot of all NXT accounts some time before the vote is announced. Only accounts created before the vote announcement may vote. NXT account holders can log in to the site with account number/authorisation token. IP is logged, so any IP addy only gets to vote once. Vote is weighted by: NXT balance up to a certain point. A sigmoid curve is what we need, so that 1 NXT=1 vote initially, and 10,000NXT=9999 votes, then dropping off gradually until there is little difference in voting weight between a 5 megaNXT account and a 10megaNXT account. Age of the account. If u came in yesterday, u get less voting weight than someone who created their account 2 minutes after Genesis. Lets just set it up and run it, see how it goes, then debate how to tweak it and get it perfect. The current debate over the role of a funding committee would be a good test : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 I suspect it will never be perfect, because u simply can't please all the people all the time, but a test run will give us much more insight into the whole voting process and how it will work out in the real world. |
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Do you think 1 Bllion NXT divided by 73 people is fair to the rest of the people?
Yes, coz most of the people r not envy trolls like u. Ur position is clear - u lost the train and is very upset due to this. I'm tempted to say "So f***ing what ? " to this whole concept of "fairness". The original NXT stakeholders, in conjunction with BCNext, created NXT and divided it up amongst themselves. Bill Gates and a couple of his buds created Microsoft and divided it up amongst themselves. Larry and Sergey and a handful of their buds created Google and divided it up amongst themselves. Marky Z. and a few of his buds created Facebook and divided it up amongst themselves. Steve J, Steve W. and Ron created Apple and divided it up amongst themselves Satoshi N. and a few of his/her/its buds created Bitcoin and then...... Can anyone see a pattern here?So can any of the envy trolls explain exactly why NXT is so "unfair" to them ? It was announced on a public forum, ffs. Everyone and anyone could have bought in to the original 73. I didn't. Missed the train completely, but I do know that if I jump on now, and help with making NXT the best it can be, my small investment will becoma a much bigger investment......and that ain't no bad thing. |
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