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1261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 14, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
Oooohhh...you've gone all red, Atoni.
Gimme a minute or 10 to search thru my posts for any Ripple bashing I might have done, seeing you can't find a quote to back yourself up with...

Yay! Found it.....I said that Atonis claim of Ripples speed was "utter  complete bollocks":

as we all know utopianfuture was caught having a large amount of sockpuppets in own allegedly fair and egalitarian project and had to go and say good bye re-joining the project with different nicknames (Hi UTOPIA i know u r reading my nifty boy Smiley)

now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites.  i can talk about it tho.

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond
If the devs r smart they will rebrand NEM. This coin has nothing to do with "fairness" (UF ruined his own idea) nor with "new" movement (noone explained what is new in repeating scheme invented by FrictionlessCoin). Frankly saying, the devs don't have a choice, if they stick to the original name and idea they will show that they endorse scam initiated by UF. I call it scam, coz NEM has nothing to do with bringing economy back to people unless we r talking about those chosen ones who will control a quarter of all the coins.

~CfA~

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt. Their web page still says its the fastest crypto while Ripple which was made 1 year before Nxt is at least 150 times faster (thats not 150% but 150 times faster).

Edit: it also says there is no fees for asset exchange despite charging even for placing or removing orders which is unheard of in financial world (not to even mention that you are paying for order to be placed in almost 5 minutes which is also unheard of in financial world (so much about speed).....and I am not even gonna go into fact that over 95% of assets listed there are created by devs with only intent to scam people for money......everyone go buy some nxt and buy google and facebook and apple on their exchange, I heard that general electric, coca cola and procter and gamble are coming too! rofl)

Moron. Spreading complete fud about NXT is not the way to go.....

CfA is not Come-from-Beyond, not even slightly.
Your claim on Ripple being 150 times faster is complete bollocks,
The order placement fee for NXT AE  is tiny (1NXT right now, going lower soon),
The order speed is slow by design which means that HFT/bot trading is not possible on NXT AE
And although there are some scammy assets (like in everything) there area hell of a lot of real projects and products listed on the AE.

I like NEM and want it to be a success, but this sort of FUD pisses me off.

EDIT: So, in the interests of fairness, can anyone else weigh in on this : Ripple or NXT: which is faster in normal use?
1262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 14, 2014, 08:54:03 PM


Damn you're smart.....or not.

Again, do some research before you try to troll, 'coz this is just too easy:

Digital Goods Store: Its stuff, like actual things, not assets. Assets are traded on the Asset Exchange (see...theres a clue in the name)
https://nxtforum.org/digital-goods-store/

Multigateway is a gateway, so not an exchange, nothing stored on it so nothing to hack. (again...gave ya a clue in the name)
But if you want to buy some BTC, this is where you can do it.
https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/

nxtBridge: Yeah, you got me. Its a bridge. It goes up, ships go underneath, it goes back down again. I just made it up to sound cool.

Secure Asset Exchange:
https://nxtforum.org/secure-asset-exchange/introduction-to-secure-asset-exchange/
https://trade.secureae.com/#6932037131189568014



Oh, its EvilDave again, person that keeps saying that Nxt is fastest crypto out there........before I do the calculation again, I must tell you that you should make your own asset on Nxt AE named Evil666Dave and you will probably get rich Smiley

Lets calculate, it takes 10 confirmations for NXT to be transfered. That is at 1,7 minute per block 17 minutes (for full confirmation it takes  1 day but I will not calculate with that to make it look better on NXT). Ripple takes 5 seconds. 5 seconds is 12 times less then 1 minute so 12*17 minutes = 204 times. So Ripple is at least 204 times faster then NXT so stop spreading lies, its easy for anyone to see through it.

Can I see that quote from me where i claim that NXT is faster than Ripple ?
NXT transfers are on your wallet almost immediately, spendable within 10 confirmations, and start forging after 1440. Simple.


And.....are you telling me that currency exchange will not have centralized wallets? rofl
Yeah, it's not an exchange...it's a gateway. Big difference.

And....with straight face you actually say that digital goods store will not have over 99% assets listed as scams? rofl
For the second time: Assets on the Asset Exchange, actual stuff (goods) on the Digital Goods Store.

Well, its enough if sane person looks at Nxter AE and see how many of them is not scam Smiley
Could you find  a sane person to take a look, then?
Get them to look at: https://trade.secureae.com/#12465186738101000735
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Italics are mine, dumb is all from Atoni.
1263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Deathblow to Proof of Stake on: July 14, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Yeah, and Bitcoin would obviously never, ever pull a rollback in the case of a theft, eh guys?

PoS is not the problem here, lousy security is.

1264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 14, 2014, 08:21:22 PM
So:
Digital goods store = around 1000 more scam assets to get nexter from fair people
Multigateway trading = devs get more trading fees (and later probably get hacked for all your nexter...basically centralized exchange but this time devs with no experience at all of running currency exchange running it, rofl)
nxtBridge = I suppose you are going to bridge Nxt with San Francisco
Secure Asset Exchange = Are you telling me that currently its not safe to trade my nexter to assets?Huh? You must be kidding me, this is ridiculous, are you the hacker that hacked Klee?

Damn you're smart.....or not.

Again, do some research before you try to troll, 'coz this is just too easy:

Digital Goods Store: Its stuff, like actual things, not assets. Assets are traded on the Asset Exchange (see...theres a clue in the name)
https://nxtforum.org/digital-goods-store/

Multigateway is a gateway, so not an exchange, nothing stored on it so nothing to hack. (again...gave ya a clue in the name)
But if you want to buy some BTC, this is where you can do it.
https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/

nxtBridge: Yeah, you got me. Its a bridge. It goes up, ships go underneath, it goes back down again. I just made it up to sound cool.

Secure Asset Exchange:
https://nxtforum.org/secure-asset-exchange/introduction-to-secure-asset-exchange/
https://trade.secureae.com/#6932037131189568014

1265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 14, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Yet another guy so optimistic or you have any graphs out there so we can see what you are up to? Most of crypto persons are so optimistic, but have no real reason for it.

Too lazy to find graphs, too busy as well....go to the main NXT forum and check it out from there:

www.nxtforum.org

And, believe me, we have plenty of reasons to be optimistic....
1266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 14, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
The decentralized exchange is neat, however, because of coloured coins, there is few reasons to hold NXT.

Imho, the distribution is still not good enough to sustain an higher market-cap than what it has now.

Exactly.  The piss poor distribution killed off NxT.  NxT used to be $0.08+ until people realized it was premined by a few people.

Maybe if NxT had better distribution it could be $300+ million by now but no point in dealing in hypothetical as the NxT was approached back in 2013 about doing a second IPO and the greedy whales said no.

NxT is truly a get quick rich scheme as their whales are more concerned about how they can get their money out then growing NxT to be a competitor to BTC.

You're obviously nowhere near up-to-date with the developments in NXT. or you're just trolling and spreading FUD as usual.

In the next weeks NXT is going to be rolling out a shitload of new features, to go with all of the amzing stuff that has already been implemented:
Here's a small selection:

New NRS software, version 1.2.2
Digital Goods Store
Mulitgateway trading
nxtBridge
Secure Asset Exchange

This is in addition to all of the activity in projects that are based on NXT, and the implemantation of NXT on a wide range of new trading platforms.
How you can be ignorant of all of this amazes me.......

You are aware that NEM was created by NXT'ers as a response to an attack on NXT?
You are also aware that most NEM stakeholders are also NXT investors?
Maybe you noticed that NEMstake is being listed on NXTs Asset Exchange (and now on the Secure AE?)

So why the f**k are you constantly attacking the only community that actually helped to create and sustain NEM?
1267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 13, 2014, 11:36:19 PM
Nxt has no competitor

+ lots to Salsa.....

Is it a good idea for NXT to have potential competing crypto on its exchange? 

I'm interested in NXT and I started accumulating some and I'm looking at some assets with concern that something like NEM could displace it.

NEM looks like a good project, but I dont see them as serious competition for NXT yet.
And, hell yeah, list them on the AE, i have no problem with that.


"Serious competition" is a dichotomous statement, no?   There's only a very small handful of 2.0 coins and NEM is arguably the best competition against NxT..  unless we grasp straws and bend them to include Ripple or Bitshares but those two payment systems / protocols are aiming for different end results.  If NEM wasn't seen as competition then it wouldn't be receiving all the negative attention it gets - you guys would instead be bashing on NODE or Kora.


'yet'
NEM isn't serious competition for NXT right now for exactly the same reason that i don't see Ethereum as serious competition: not launched yet.
Things could change when NEM launches and starts adding users and features......but we'll see what happens over the next few months.

So chill yr boots, TS, you'll see very little NEM bashing round here. Not from me, even though some of your posts on BTT have been seriously hostile to NXT.
I'll only bash stuff that really deserves it, like Uro or inbred aristocrats being appointed to Ripple directorships.
1268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 13, 2014, 07:17:56 PM
Need some help here downloaded wallet received some nxt coin sent some nxt coin however when clicking on forge I get the following error Your effective balance is zero, you cannot forge yet I have coins in my wallet

Your coins need to have 1440 confirmations to start forging.

And as NXT has, in principle, a one minute block time you will have to wait a day to start forging.
1269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Islamic State Really Using Bitcoin? on: July 13, 2014, 03:19:55 PM
Seems to me that pretty much all of ISIS funding is in dollars......time for a ban, maybe?
1270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The $1000 Stake Challenge! on: July 13, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
Heres the update on my 20,000 NXT...current market price is $0.0451 (from coinmarketcap), so my $1000 is now $902. Ooopps..... Cry

Still, we've got some serious developments coming up with NXT in the next week, so I think I'll hodl for a while longer.
1271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: RIPPLE! Strong Buy. on: July 13, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
Not wanting to hate on Ripple, but I have no problem with hating on idiot aristos who were born with a golden spoon in their mouths and still feel the need to cheat their way thru life.

Never forget that these guys ancestors stole everything they own at the point of a sword.
One of the core beliefs at the heart of the crypto movement is to take back control of the financial systems from thieves like this, not to give them more of our money.
1272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 13, 2014, 01:28:51 PM
Nxt has no competitor

+ lots to Salsa.....

Is it a good idea for NXT to have potential competing crypto on its exchange? 

I'm interested in NXT and I started accumulating some and I'm looking at some assets with concern that something like NEM could displace it.

NEM looks like a good project, but I dont see them as serious competition for NXT yet.
And, hell yeah, list them on the AE, i have no problem with that.
1273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: All the new coins on: July 13, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
Don't forget the endless supply of clueless newbies who invest in the biggest green numbers on CMC, or who actually believe the most unlikely promises.
1274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why? on: July 13, 2014, 01:18:58 PM
+10 to the OP.

I'm completely sick and tired of the endless lies and FUD that are spread here.
I've got no problem with people promoting their own pet projects/coins whatever, but the trolling... *rolls eyeballs*.

1275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEM is a SCAM. :'o( on: July 13, 2014, 11:55:32 AM
as we all know utopianfuture was caught having a large amount of sockpuppets in own allegedly fair and egalitarian project and had to go and say good bye re-joining the project with different nicknames (Hi UTOPIA i know u r reading my nifty boy Smiley)

now ppl are not talking about this cuz it makes them look like utter hypocrites.  i can talk about it tho.

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond
If the devs r smart they will rebrand NEM. This coin has nothing to do with "fairness" (UF ruined his own idea) nor with "new" movement (noone explained what is new in repeating scheme invented by FrictionlessCoin). Frankly saying, the devs don't have a choice, if they stick to the original name and idea they will show that they endorse scam initiated by UF. I call it scam, coz NEM has nothing to do with bringing economy back to people unless we r talking about those chosen ones who will control a quarter of all the coins.

~CfA~

Instead of focusing on NEM, NXT developer Come-From-Above should at least stop spreading lies about Nxt. Their web page still says its the fastest crypto while Ripple which was made 1 year before Nxt is at least 150 times faster (thats not 150% but 150 times faster).

Edit: it also says there is no fees for asset exchange despite charging even for placing or removing orders which is unheard of in financial world (not to even mention that you are paying for order to be placed in almost 5 minutes which is also unheard of in financial world (so much about speed).....and I am not even gonna go into fact that over 95% of assets listed there are created by devs with only intent to scam people for money......everyone go buy some nxt and buy google and facebook and apple on their exchange, I heard that general electric, coca cola and procter and gamble are coming too! rofl)

Moron. Spreading complete fud about NXT is not the way to go.....

CfA is not Come-from-Beyond, not even slightly.
Your claim on Ripple being 150 times faster is complete bollocks,
The order placement fee for NXT AE  is tiny (1NXT right now, going lower soon),
The order speed is slow by design which means that HFT/bot trading is not possible on NXT AE
And although there are some scammy assets (like in everything) there area hell of a lot of real projects and products listed on the AE.

I like NEM and want it to be a success, but this sort of FUD pisses me off.
1276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What should I do with 2,000 dogecoins? on: July 13, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
It's too small amount.
Hold it and pray, hope the price will reach $1 in the next year.

Do you really think that Doge will reach a market cap of $ 87 billion (ie 10x Bitcoins current cap) inside a year?
This could be seen as being slightly unrealistic...... Shocked
1277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What altcoin do you see when you jerk off? on: July 13, 2014, 01:16:33 AM
duh...WankCoin obviously.  Shocked
1278  Economy / Services / Re: I was hacked (1170btc stolen) - 500btc max BOUNTY on: July 13, 2014, 01:15:09 AM
Damn that absolutely blows... I really hope a miracle happens and the thief does something incredibly stupid to get himself revealed.

He may already have. In addition to the BTC theft, Klee also had 6 million NXT lifted, which the thief moved on to BTER.
BTER are being co-operative and have frozen the account, and I'd be very interested to see what sort of info they have logged for the thiefs trading account and if they are prepared to release it.....now that could be comedy gold.

Like I've said before....he can run, but hiding is gonna be a little bit more difficult.
1279  Economy / Services / Re: I was hacked (1170btc stolen) - 500btc max BOUNTY on: July 12, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
Not to give the guy too many ideas, or encourage others on the forum, but I just want to point out that this is incorrect.

Let me use an example:-

In short

1) send a multitude of periodic transactions to obscure exchanges with small amounts to different accounts, maybe use new ones every time ( there are tons of other exchanges now, much smaller and discreet than the big ones, all reputable)
2) Sell coins and send fiat to numbered accounts of unregistered visa cards
3) Go to ATMs and cash out
4) As an extra layer of security, rotate the ATMs you use.

And to top it all off, there is no guarantee the hacker is in a jurisdiction in which the hackeds' country's laws have effect, so even if you find him, short of illegal means, there is little recourse.


This is kind of my point: when the hacker is located, there will be plenty of people who will be prepared to operate outside the legal system to affect a recovery.
I don't want to be seen as condoning or encouraging this, btw, but Klees bounty will attract some unscrupulous people.
1280  Economy / Services / Re: I was hacked (1170btc stolen) - 500btc max BOUNTY on: July 12, 2014, 09:32:45 PM
What do you think? Just one knee cap or both?

Both.

And do it old-school IRA style......Black and Decker!
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