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2181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 01, 2022, 06:14:24 PM


Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  Grin.
Let's see if Canelo really has the balls. It should be a fight for the undisputed belts at 168. Canelo's top options now are Bivol, the Benavidez vs Plant winner, Andrade, and Charlo. If Canelo won't fight Bivol next, he will have an upcoming WBC mandatory probably against Benavidez.

It's just funny though that Prograis said that his check has bounce



https://twitter.com/RPrograis/status/1597966053719838721

So it's about a million paycheck for him in his knockout against Zepeda. In any case, I think this will be solved since he goes to the media already.

It's was MarvNation, a small promotional company based in Southern California who won the bid in this fight beating some notable names in boxing industry with more than $2 million as a bid price.
I was surprised Top Rank was not the one promoting that fight neither was Probellum (Prograis promoter). Did it really go into a purse bid and MarvNation won it? Because the original call was Zepeda vs Ramirez but the latter showed no interest in a rematch. Hopefully, Prograis and Zepeda get paid asap.

In two days Tyson Fury is going to have a third fight against Derek Chisora and YuginKadoya seems to be the only one who remember it, as there were only few posts about this fight during last 30 days. It is time to wake up boxing fans Cheesy Why so silent ? No one is going to watch this fight ? Aged Chisora is no longer dangerous? Because Chisora havent won anyone convincingly since 2019? Undefeated WBC champion is about to have a belt defence, or even might have his last fight before retirement, and people show low interest in that fight. Strange...
Because Fury cherry-picked someone that has zero chance of becoming a world champion. What's more strange is he already beat the better versions of Chisora twice and they aren't even close. And with Chisora picking this fight in less than 2 months, Fury can probably carry the fight and can decide which round he will stop Chisora.

DAZN has the better event this weekend. The trilogy between Roman Gonzales and Juan Francisco Estrada.
2182  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC is likely to head towards a price of $13,000 on: December 01, 2022, 05:14:18 PM
I believe we reached the bottom already last month. No need to wait and hope for bitcoin to drop to $13,000. So it was $15,000+ only unless a big disaster will once again affect the market. Bitcoin will start to recover and will have a mini bull run. I am still highly speculative that the next halving year remains the start of the real bull run where new ATHs will be reached. So we still have over a year of accumulation before the next halving.
2183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future of Bitcoin on: December 01, 2022, 03:45:52 PM
You can still use bitcoin without any interference from private corporations and governments. There are some places where you can buy goods with it. You can use P2P and decentralized exchanges. That's still freedom.

Now if we are talking about living using bitcoin alone, it won't be that easy. Let's hope that all our necessities will be soon available by just using bitcoin.

Although I hate this because I came from a very corrupt nation but generally, governments cannot survive without tax. And some business entities might also prefer regulated currencies. Bitcoin will continue to become more valuable in the years to come but there will be more regulations from governments.
2184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 30, 2022, 05:42:55 PM
I also thought France would let some of its starters and sub them in the second half. Mbappe and Giroud have history to make but Deschamps believes that the safest way to protect its players from possible injuries is to rest them and relax. 

Despite facing the second French squad, props to Tunisia for fighting until the end and managing a victory over the defending champions before they exit.

I cannot imagine the reactions of the bettors right now upon realizing that their expected squad didn't show up on the field.
2185  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Cryptocurrency Law in Brazil on: November 30, 2022, 05:11:21 PM
As I am from Brazil, I have been following this for quite some time.

There is a fundamental problem here with this law, which can be checked in the portuguese version:

https://cointelegraph.com.br/news/on-a-historic-day-deputies-approve-cryptocurrency-bill-in-brazil
Abccripto, a group of old and low quality Brazilian exchanges is behind this law.

This group have tried many times before to as government to ban binance from Brazil, as binance offers a high quality service for very low fees.

You can see here abccripto asking central bank to ban binance
https://www.abcripto.com.br/post/abcripto-aciona-bacen-mpf-e-cvm-contra-corretora-binancehttps://exame.com/future-of-money/dinheiro-tendencias/abcripto-pede-que-bc-mpf-e-cvm-suspendam-operacoes-da-binance-no-brasil/

This group wouls never support this law if it didnt help them in their goal

In the end, national exchanges cannot compete with binance. They offer a bad service (low volume, few coins, high fees, instability and website goes down when price drops etc.. ). So they are trying to ban binance.

Biannce has now about 60% of Brazilian daily volume.

This seems like the same scenario in my country. A group is trying to not just block Binance from getting a license but to ban it and file a case and impose penalties since many of my countrymen including me are using Binance. Although current exchanges here are improving, they are still miles behind what Binance offers like the lower fees, high volume, plenty of markets and it is easier to use. I can feel who's behind the movement since that company is not offering BNB or BUSD while it offers some coins that have lower values.

Nonetheless, the news is still positive, especially for Brazilian crypto enthusiasts. Maybe the next debate is about letting Binance enter the Brazilian market.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first attempt to play gambling on: November 30, 2022, 04:27:54 PM
I think the first experience I gambled was when I was around 7 or 8 something. No money was directly involved at that time since we gambled using cards, rubber bands, marbles, etc which we bought using money. My first attempt to gamble using money was when I was 9 years old in a horse racing machine. I was excited but I was also scared at the same time if ever I win since I cannot easily hide the money and my mother will get angry if she knew I gambled. It was a crazy experience. In the end, I was happy and contented when I lose my bets.
2187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The market will come back bigger again on: November 30, 2022, 01:58:38 PM
The cryptocurrency market has its own ups and downs. The previous years' setbacks were way more challenging and difficult because crypto at that time is not as established as compared to today's. What happened to FTX and its sister companies affected the market in general but we cannot anymore hear big names and companies and governments proposing to ban crypto. Instead, it is all about implementing more regulations towards crypto so that what happened today won't happen again in the future. So I am more confident than ever that the market will once again recover and then establish another series of all-time highs.  
2188  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🥊 Tyson Fury vs Derek Chisora 🥊 (Saturday) on: November 30, 2022, 01:13:51 PM
1.  Fury
2.  Over 6.5 Rounds
3.  Round 12
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: November 29, 2022, 07:06:41 PM
I seldom see something like this

Beterbiev by KO/TKO   - 13 (100%)
Beterbiev by decision   - 0 (0%)
Yarde by KO   - 0 (0%)
Yarde by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

but with this specific fight, this is 100% possible, a guy with a 100% knockout percentage against a guy who got knocked out from an aging warrior and with a jab to deliver it, Yarde talks about how things change and he is not the same Yarde that fought Kovalev, but what's the difference, he will still get busted.

Seeing this kind of poll is indeed rare but, in this fight, it is somehow expected that Beterbiev will have a landslide vote here in this forum just like how he will have a landslide victory here over this bigmouth Anthony Yarde who is talking that he can do this and that or how he improved throughout the years since he was defeated by Kovalev. I mean, really? It's unbelievable to see that he is still boasting despite of that fact.

So everybody is expecting the defending champion Artur Beterbiev with a 100% KO ratio to stop Anthony Yarde.

About Yarde's earlier loss to Kovalev, I think he would've performed better if he didn't dare to visit the former champion in his own backyard in Russia. Kovalev was already vulnerable at that time but he was fighting in front of his own countrymen. And Kovalev is heavy-handed too, so his jab is probably more powerful than just the normal jabs.

When I hear these 2 names, I always wonder what would've happened if Kovalev and Beterbiev met each other around 7 years ago. Maybe one of them failed to become a big star since the loser will probably suffer a big KO/TKO. Nonetheless, Artur Beterbiev wasted many years and opportunities when he was fighting in Canada. He never tried to enforce and seemed contented not fighting then Canadian and fellow Canadian-based champions/superstars whom he is very capable of winning.
2190  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Betnomi Cold Wallet - 4 round 🦊 on: November 26, 2022, 05:04:47 PM
19 - inthelongrun

Thanks
2191  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Should I invest in cryptocurrency or start my business? on: November 26, 2022, 03:16:32 PM
But why not do both? Or are you trying to say that you will trade actively hence you cannot do both as it needs an ample amount of time? I suggest you start a business of your interest rather than trading. You can start a business and then invest long-term in the top and more stable cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. 

Trading is not an easy job. Based on my experience and observation of people I know, in order to earn regularly in trading you need effort in technical skills and you also need to follow the news and trends. You also need the experience because every now and then some strategies aren't going to become effective forever. And besides, the risk of losing is always there and it might be too stressful for newbies to handle. 
2192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hello Im trader i do binance futures trading see what i can Do here on: November 26, 2022, 02:54:47 PM
Not that I am interested to become a partner because I don't have the money to risk, but I am watching your call OP. I was thinking of trying it in spot trading but well I became busy and I stopped trading already. So until now, it didn't touch the stop loss but nor did it touch the take profit as well. I would've been holding around a 3% gain from your call. Although you are a futures trader, I already forgot what its fees look like every 24 hours but maybe you're still holding a slight gain for now.

Anyways, I don't expect you to get investors here unless some newbies find your thread earlier and became interested.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez on: November 26, 2022, 02:23:53 PM
Yes, this is a done deal a few weeks already. David Benavidez is just waiting for anybody to fight him and it will be a done deal already. I am referring to his PBC stablemates Caleb Plant and Jermall Charlo who's been calling Canelo over the years but are scared to fight each other and to Benavidez. Benavidez is not a technical fighter like Plant and Charlo, but he is gifted with heavy hands, an iron chin and he is huge in his division. At 25 years old, this kid will have the strength and stamina to brawl for 12 rounds until its opponents cannot take it anymore. I am starting to like Plant but I believe Benavidez will stop him. Only the referee can make Plant survives the full 12 rounds if it allows him to grab, clinch and hug too much. 
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cock fight game on: November 26, 2022, 01:11:03 PM
It is very legal in my country and in other countries as well. We even have designated cockfighting arenas for this kind of event in my country. Bets and prize pools range from thousands of dollars to millions because many rich people in my country including our politicians are into cockfighting as well.

I am not fond of this so-called sport. But I have real experiences since I have friends and even relatives that own roosters. Cockfighting is different OP. Our roosters are armed with very sharp blades capable of killing even humans (many died already). The first time I experienced betting on cockfighting was during the pandemic but it was only held in my friend's backyard. I've never seen an actual event held from a cockpit arena.

Personally, I prefer governments stop cockfighting. It isn't a sport because the losing cock has an 80% chance of being killed in action. I consider this an abuse of animals. We kill animals for food but we try to make it quick as possible.
2195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Excessive greed is detrimental to investment on: November 26, 2022, 12:50:22 PM
I am feeling sorry for the devaluation of your investment. But my goodness! Did someone convinced you to invest in those specific coins? Why did you invest $15,000 on projects that are not even in the top 50? Newly launched coins and small market cap coins are not the best for people that are new to crypto. And those coins are not for the long term due to their very high risks. They are often called lottery coins, your money might reach x200 but your investment value can also drop to x-200 folds if they fail. I am not against investing in lottery coins but the amount should be something you are willing to lose.
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 26, 2022, 11:25:21 AM
^^ Yes, even in the Pacquiao fight, his training or at least when he do the his drills, he is somewhat very slow and not that agile. Maybe that's how Thurman's training is, not focusing on the speed but power because he want's to try to knockout his opponent, and even before he was knock down or lost the fight to Manny, he is known to have that punching power.

So there's no difference it training at all for him, but I think he is more faster that Ugas that Spence recently beat. But has more power behind it. He had Manny in trouble in the later rounds, it's that his weakness was a body punch and when Manny hit him in the stomach, he somewhat wince, meaning he is affected.

For sure Spence team knows that, and Spence also throws a lot of body punch in the Ugas fight and we can see that it has power behind because Ugas will react and then tuck his elbow under him for protection.

So Spence is a good to decent body puncher, base on his stats against Ugas:

216 punches thrown, 70/784 = 27.6 %

So maybe a couple of body shots might hurt Thurman here. But still though, this is going to be a very close fight that might go to the scorecard.

Thurman survived against Pacman despite that 1st round knockdown, so I don't think Thurman here will allow Spence to exploit his weakness. Thurman has probably recovered already from his injury and has prepared for his comeback, so I don't really think that Spence aiming at Thurman's body would be a great strategy.

We are talking about the about of body shots that Thurman might absorb against Spence, not injury or something. I do agree that he survived against Pacman, but as you can see he started to slow down when he is hit in the body.

Here is the video of Thurman almost getting knock down by Manny's body punch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g8152wanVI

And for the record, we didn't say that he has a body weakness, he himself admitted to that even after his last fight 9 months ago against Barrios:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRgAIzN4RDc

Listen to him post fight interview, he says that he felt different when he is touch on that part of his body, and that maybe his liver is sensitive.

And this is the video of that body shot: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JdUX1oP-I90

So it's a weakness that he has and no amount of training can strengthen his body to take blows.

And if Spence team is really that good, they will exploit it from the first round, uppercut to the body, any shot that will land in his liver/stomach.

Right. Thurman will be chopped down and his head will fall. And he is not the same scary Thurman some years ago that has the athleticism and hunger with the intent to hurt opponents. Spence knows it based on his previous fights since his first return from inactivity. He knows Thurman doesn't have the same speed and can be hit and hurt. He knows Thurman will run away once he gets hurt. Although Thurman might land his own haymakers since Spence is not that good defensively.

IMO, I don't rate Thurman that highly nowadays. He remained very popular because of his name and he is a former unified champion. But I think Terrence Crawford's unpopular opponent yet earned his rank properly, David Avanesyan will beat the present version of Thurman.
2197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 25, 2022, 05:53:59 PM
I’m surprised that Kuku is still being given value to still form a team like this. I think should just do coach role instead of doing offlane since he is not effective anymore on competitive play. He is just a burden most of the time if his hero feed on laning phase. BlackList surely expanding now to Dota2 right after dominating the ML.  Cheesy
I still think he's a good offlaner even though they crumbled in TI and we can't assume that just because the team is struggling already means that he's the only one bringing the team down and there might not be a lot of offlaners that could mesh with this kind of lineup....

I would also like to see Kuku as a coach or if he can shift to a support role although they already had TIMS and eyyou. Who will be the captain of Blacklist? Kuku or is it going to be eyyou?

With so many roster announcements and reveals this week hopefully we see some EU teams next.

Most of them probably stay with the same team. Nigma isn't making any moves either. So far it is only Alliance that has no line-up but we're not even sure if they are heading out of DOTA 2 since they are becoming irrelevant lately. As for Liquid, I wonder who's going to be their replacement for the retired MATUMBAMAN. Gaimin needs a midlaner which may be a good opportunity for Topson if he wants to stay in Europe while OG, is looking for an offlaner. 

I think Ana goes inactive again unless there are offers coming from the top teams. Liquid maybe? 
2198  Economy / Economics / Re: How much longer until paper money is no longer in circulation? on: November 24, 2022, 03:39:13 PM
Paper money will stay for another 100 years. It won't be easy for paper money to get wiped out completely and replaced with digital money. Paper money will co-exist along with CBDCs. Some countries especially the highly modernized and rich but smaller manageable ones like Singapore and Qatar might fully implement it. Big nations with huge populations will find it difficult especially the poor and developing nations where stable internet and even electricity remain an issue. And there are also nations like Afghanistan that are too divided ethnically and in politics that make an unstable government and are always at war which diminishes their chance of modernization.
2199  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two important lesson I learn from this forum this year 2022 on: November 24, 2022, 02:48:16 PM
It makes sense. The effects of the LUNA crash, the FTX scam, and Binance's ability to shut down its rivals are giving me more realizations to stay out as much as possible to centralized exchanges and be more selective in choosing altcoins. My earlier plan is to accumulate BTC, ETH, BNB, and some more altcoins but I might drop ETH and BNB or at least lessen my projected investments toward them. ETH after shifting to POS seems it is turning into a centralized system while BNB as a Binance token might be in danger from its rival exchanges and other chains. 
2200  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2021-09-24] China Says All Crypto-Related Transactions Are Illegal on: November 24, 2022, 02:28:52 PM
Communist China will of course defy any decentralized platforms, be it monetary, assets, social media, games and entertainment. Communist China does not want anything that it cannot control.

In the past, the Chinese government banned F4, a popular Taiwanese boy band and series actors at the same time because it may influence its huge population. I also read before that they banned popular manga whose origins are from rival Japan, the Chinese government wants its own artists to produce their own comics. So, how much more on bitcoin, especially upon realizing that many of its citizens are mining and investing in fully decentralized digital money? The world is becoming more modernized and open, and any communists and autocratic governments won't last further if they are not to crack down on decentralized platforms and stuff that can open the minds of its population. 
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