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[TheDay]

Thanks a lot for all your detailed answers! Helps a lot! 

[money4good]

Hacky, I know you have a unique situation. I was mainly posting for regular “joe” user like myself. But I do hope you find a good solution for your issues. I feel like you are pulling Leo in an even more progressive and robust direction, which is great for all of us. Power users are constantly pushing the limits and capabilities of the software. In the long run this is a benefit for all. I hope you keep it up and don’t get too frustrated because it really is a service to everyone using the product. Thanks!

[leonArdo@margin]

Hey Hacky,

couple points there. Yes, I was glad but also a bit surprised to hear the Pi being recommended as the ideal platform but OTOH, the thing about such SBCs, as you've hinted at, is that they are so affordable that you can use them as single-purpose machines which helps a lot with a lot of applications, including leonArdo. We definitely don't recommend doing anything besides running leonArdo on a Pi.

I have the nagging feeling, however, that us strongly recommending swapspace for the Pi also has something to do with things running so smoothly there. We're still seeing those memory fragmentation issues that drive up memory usage over time, so having basically unlimited swap space will help on every machine but on the Pi, it's an absolute necessity to have ample swap space. So bottom line, just install swapspace when running leonArdo, because why not.

The Pi 1 and Zero you mentioned don't support ARMv7, so they don't run leonArdo anyway! But yes, part of the reason why we didn't even consider them is the fact that the resources will be even more restricted and the Pi 3 is really affordable anyway. I haven't looked into the RK3399 you mentioned but if you're looking for a board that you can buy right now, the Banana Pi M2 and M3 have SATA and they're proven to run leonArdo. I also just got a Rock64 on my desk and while I haven't gotten around to testing leonArdo on it, with Gigabit Ethernet and eMMC I think it's quite promising. Excited to try it anyway!

General note in case anyone's still reading: we're always interested in hearing your stories with different setups, especially when they're ARM! But be aware that ARM is such a diverse ecosystem that you never know how things turn out and while we want to hear how things go for you, we can't really support you with anything but the Raspberry Pi. So ARM is very much a "only if you know what you're doing" kind of affair!

Best,

Christian

[leonArdo@margin]

leonArdo is rebranding as ...

Visit us here: https://margin.de

We are excited to announce the upcoming rebranding of leonArdo as margin and the release of a new website. This entails a number of changes for our existing hero customers and we want to run through them here.

We will switch the existing early adopter lifetime license model to a subscription-based model. Although we saw incredible growth last year and grew our team to 9 people, in order to be able to add all the great features we have in our pipeline and maintain a sustainable software company, necessitates this change.


What does it mean for existing customers?
First off, you can, of course, keep your existing version of leonArdo for life. You will also be able to use margin on the Standard plan for free for 6 months as a non-Ultra customer and for a year as an Ultra customer. At the end of that period, you have the choice to revert back to your old version of leonArdo or to support our project by adding a subscription plan.

Edit: As a leonArdo customer you will also be entitled to a 50% discount on all future margin terminal subscription payments. The offer will kick in if you sign up for a subscription within a month of your free period ending.

Edit: There seems to be some confusion so I'd like to clear it up. All leonArdo customers, even those who buy in the next couple of weeks before the switch, are considered Hero early adopter customers.

Pricing
We have 3 different plans that fit the needs of all kinds of traders. The plans are mainly distinguished by the allowable balance (overall estimated USD balance) per exchange. For example, on the Standard plan you can have a balance of up to 100K USD per exchange.

What else changes?
You will no longer have to contact support to get a new API key added to the product. You will just have to add it yourself in your account area on the website and it should be immediately active! As security remains a top priority, we still only require half your secret to be given to us. margin, like leonArdo, will also connect directly to the exchanges and no orders will be routed through our servers. That's none of our business! In addition, the new website will feature a whole new Help Center with many helpful videos and articles that will provide valuable help on understanding the capabilities of margin and this will be added to and updated regularly. We are sure you’ll love the new look and feel of the website!

Our commitment
For all our subscribers our commitment is to release a new version of margin on average every 6 weeks and to continue to improve margin with new exchanges, bots, technical indicators, reporting and other cool thus far unannounced developments we have in the pipeline. We also reaffirm our commitment to offering all of our customers world class support.

Timeline
We expect margin and our new web platform to go live within the next two weeks.

We hope that we can count on your continued support and that you will stick with us over the next months and years. We are confident that we can build on the already excellent technical basis of leonArdo to make margin the default choice for cryptocurrency traders.

Thanks so much everyone!

The margin team

Edit: After discussing what we could do for our Hero early adopter customers, in recognition of the fact that you guys got us to this point, we have decided to give a special status of Hero to every leonArdo customer going forward. It won't just be that you have a Hero badge in your version of margin, but it entitles you to a 50% discount on all future margin terminal subscription payments. The offer will kick in if you sign up for a subscription within a month of your free period ending.

We wanted to also make the point that switching to a subscription based model is absolutely necessary for us. We are a real company, with real employees who have families and mortgages and have to be paid at the end of each month. If the market only saw month on month growth then it might be possible to survive by sticking to the lifetime license model, but this is not the case. Catastrophic events like what happened in mid January, where a lot of cryptos lost up to 70% of their value, have a huge effect on our revenue. This puts everything we have built up in danger and if not dealt with could mean us having to close for business - which would also mean no updates for leonArdo. This was not a decision we took lightly, rather one we couldn't avoid.

[CTShaman]

How would multiple APIs per exchange be utilized?

[RYXES]

How in the world have I only just discovered this?

[Amaralluis]

I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor.
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.

[RiSK6]

"I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor.
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.
"

Agreed. I too am a very small investor. Will probably do the same as well

Bummer

[ofnadave]

I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor.
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.

Same!

[leonArdo@margin]

"I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor.
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.
"

Agreed. I too am a very small investor. Will probably do the same as well

Bummer

I am sorry, but if we didn't take this step then we would risk not being able to stay competitive. This was necessary to ensure that we could expand and do all the things we want to.

We think that the Starter plan which costs $180 a year is reasonable for small investors.

But of course, everyone will have to make up their own mind.

All the best,
Jonathan

[yhbae]

How do you enable the display of buy/sell vertical column chart at specific prices on the right side of the main chart?

On a different note - what do you get for the 'Starter Plan'?

Thanks.

[leonArdo@margin]

How would multiple APIs per exchange be utilized?

Some customers have asked for this. Some want to be able to run more than a single instance of margin connecting to their exchange account on different machines. One example would be someone who is running margin on a machine at home 24/7 and wants to check in on things at work using a different machine. But there are other cases.

The main point of that plan is the unlimited balance per exchange.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

[leonArdo@margin]

How do you enable the display of buy/sell vertical column chart at specific prices on the right side of the main chart?

On a different note - what do you get for the 'Starter Plan'?

Thanks.

You can configure leonArdo by clicking in the top left hand corner and choosing "Add Tools Window".

The Starter plan allows you connect to 1 exchange on which your balance does not exceed $3000. Other than that there are no restrictions. You can run as many bots as you like for example.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Edit
Or perhaps, you mean the depth-chart?
You can show this by right-click dragging the chart to the left!

best,
Christof

[money4good]

I, for one, will continue to support Team Margin. I've been very pleased with the product and I think it will be well worth the extra money. These folks have been working their asses off to support us with limited resources and I think helping them scale up will be a benefit to everyone in the long run. I understand that this will upset some people but you have to decide if you think there's a better product/dev team at a cheaper price. IMO, no.

[CTShaman]

How would multiple APIs per exchange be utilized?

Some customers have asked for this. Some want to be able to run more than a single instance of margin connecting to their exchange account on different machines. One example would be someone who is running margin on a machine at home 24/7 and wants to check in on things at work using a different machine. But there are other cases.

The main point of that plan is the unlimited balance per exchange.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Wow, that was unexpected, I had considered that as a possibility, but a long shot. Thanks for the explanation.

Instance to instance awareness will need to be incorporated, sounds grizzly. I'd want to throw a lot of testing at that. 

Thanks for ensuring leonArdo/margin has a bright future.

[rothcom65]

"I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor.
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.
"

Agreed. I too am a very small investor. Will probably do the same as well

Bummer

I am sorry, but if we didn't take this step then we would risk not being able to stay competitive. This was necessary to ensure that we could expand and do all the things we want to.

We think that the Starter plan which costs $180 a year is reasonable for small investors.

But of course, everyone will have to make up their own mind.

All the best,
Jonathan

I understand. At least there should be some sort of discount or promotion for early adopters like us who paid for the lifetime license.

[yhbae]

How do you enable the display of buy/sell vertical column chart at specific prices on the right side of the main chart?

On a different note - what do you get for the 'Starter Plan'?

Thanks.

You can configure leonArdo by clicking in the top left hand corner and choosing "Add Tools Window".

The Starter plan allows you connect to 1 exchange on which your balance does not exceed $3000. Other than that there are no restrictions. You can run as many bots as you like for example.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Edit
Or perhaps, you mean the depth-chart?
You can show this by right-click dragging the chart to the left!

best,
Christof

In my case, the balance will exceed 3k for sure... What's the plan above this one and how much?

[drnkk]

How do you enable the display of buy/sell vertical column chart at specific prices on the right side of the main chart?

On a different note - what do you get for the 'Starter Plan'?

Thanks.

You can configure leonArdo by clicking in the top left hand corner and choosing "Add Tools Window".

The Starter plan allows you connect to 1 exchange on which your balance does not exceed $3000. Other than that there are no restrictions. You can run as many bots as you like for example.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

Edit
Or perhaps, you mean the depth-chart?
You can show this by right-click dragging the chart to the left!

best,
Christof

Jumping from 3k usd per 1 exchange to 100k usd per multiple exchange seems to be huge difference between two options.
You should consider something between IMHO.

Best Regards

[kriojenic]

leonArdo is rebranding as ...

http://www.marginsoftware.de/forum-images/final-margin-logo-white-background.png

We are excited to announce the upcoming rebranding of leonArdo as margin and the release of a new website. This entails a number of changes for our existing hero customers and we want to run through them here.

We will switch the existing early adopter lifetime license model to a subscription-based model. Although we saw incredible growth last year and grew our team to 9 people, in order to be able to add all the great features we have in our pipeline and maintain a sustainable software company, necessitates this change.


What does it mean for existing customers?
First off, you can, of course, keep your existing version of leonArdo for life. You will also be able to use margin for free for 6 months as a non-Ultra customer and for a year as an Ultra customer. At the end of that period, you have the choice to revert back to your old version of leonArdo or to support our project by adding a subscription plan.

Pricing
We have 3 different plans that fit the needs of all kinds of traders. The plans are mainly distinguished by the allowable balance (overall estimated USD balance) per exchange. For example, on the Standard plan you can have a balance of up to 100K USD per exchange.

http://www.marginsoftware.de/forum-images/SaaS-Pricing.png

What else changes?
You will no longer have to contact support to get a new API key added to the product. You will just have to add it yourself in your account area on the website and it should be immediately active! As security remains a top priority, we still only require half your secret to be given to us. margin, like leonArdo, will also connect directly to the exchanges and no orders will be routed through our servers. That's none of our business! In addition, the new website will feature a whole new Help Center with many helpful videos and articles that will provide valuable help on understanding the capabilities of margin and this will be added to and updated regularly. We are sure you’ll love the new look and feel of the website!

Our commitment
For all our subscribers our commitment is to release a new version of margin on average every 6 weeks and to continue to improve margin with new exchanges, bots, technical indicators, reporting and other cool thus far unannounced developments we have in the pipeline. We also reaffirm our commitment to offering all of our customers world class support.

Timeline
We expect margin and our new web platform to go live within the next two weeks.

We hope that we can count on your continued support and that you will stick with us over the next months and years. We are confident that we can build on the already excellent technical basis of leonArdo to make margin the default choice for cryptocurrency traders.

Thanks so much everyone!

The margin team

http://www.marginsoftware.de/forum-images/margin-small.png

This is a shitty way to thank your early adopters man, I believed in your product and advertise it to countless people. Gotten a few referrals out of them and many I didn't bother giving my email for the ref bonus because that's not why I advertised it. I bought the ultra license even though I'm nowhere near close to maxing my apis, I probably never will, I just wanted to support the development. Now you decide to rebrand - but ditch the old product? A year of service of the new "rebranded" product is a shitty way of saying thank you to your older supporters, especially those who got here before the price hike. Not to mention this isn't "lifetime" product anymore either. I get it you need to stay competitive and fund the company but at least reward the people with a real lifetime subscription to those who allowed you to get to where you are by funding you. I see you guys going far, but this is a shitty move.

[naska21]

 

We are excited to announce the upcoming rebranding of leonArdo as margin and the release of a new website. This entails a number of changes for our existing hero customers and we want to run through them here.

Not acceptable change.Small investors will go away the big ones will be never on the Leo side as more advanced products with incorporated AI are knocking into door, IMHO. (I would except $5/month for one exchange and 10BTC volume trading. )


But as I got it we can stay with the old version forever. Won't we?