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July 10, 2014, 03:51:01 AM
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Makes claims.
Won't back them up.
Claims victory.

Sounds like you have all the groundwork to start your own asic manufacturing company there  Cheesy

I was telling you to declare your self winner. 1/2 in jest.
If I ever claim some 'victory', and I don't offer defence, challenger wins.
I'll shake the hand of challenger if defeated on merit.

I have a habit of skipping words.
A quirky indulgence that leads to confusion when they turn out to be necessary for clarity.

what I intended to say, as briefly as possible.

I saw others post end of Q2 delivery.
I agreed with those posters.
I thought it was the popular view, I was biased because I  agreed.
Kudos to THEM for providing their view, of many theirs compelled me to agree.

I know I dis agreed with the "where seldom is heard a discouraging word" crowd.
Phoenix in particular. No idea if I ever stated same to provide proof.
His "Nobody" post is what I replied to. I'm willing to wear the nobody hat.
tolip forefits point.

I never had anything of mine to find.
I never intended to imply that.

If that is the metric I conceed defeat not victory.
Same goes for diggin for proof somebody said something I say I agree or disagree with.
People who do not believe end of Q2 was discussed WIN!!!

Poorly stated in an earlier post.
Clearer?


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July 10, 2014, 04:16:04 AM
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Hi. I am using three 850W PSU (1x corsair RM850 and 2x CoolerMaster V850) to power the neppy. I noticed that the temperature varies on the PCI-E cables: on the CM v850, from PSU side to the Neppy, the temperature decreases along the PCI-E cable: i.e. at the connector to the PSU, it is really hot! in the middle it is warm; and at the neppy side connector it feels normal.



I read some previous posts that someone has the connector or PCI-E cable melted. I am afraid my cable may have the same problems. Why the PCI-E cable is so hot (especially at the PSU connector side)? What should I do to prevent it from melting?

While the two CoolerMaster PSU's pci-e cable is hot, the cable on Corsair RM850 is not warm at all. Why Corsair's cable is much colder than CM's?

Thank you for your attention!


Because it was not designed properly and KNC just expects people that paid $13k or $10k and waited 4-6 months to fix all this on their own. There is no "plug -n- mine" here.

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July 10, 2014, 04:47:08 AM
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All I needed to hear months ago to confirm they are scumbags was "hold on to your coins, they will go fast". For those that remember.


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July 10, 2014, 05:55:35 AM
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All I needed to hear months ago to confirm they are scumbags was "hold on to your coins, they will go fast". For those that remember.



Look to Blackarrow if you want to see a scumbag company in action. Refunds that are less that what you paid in fiat if you can get them to refund at all. 5 months late on deliveries of product. Delays and stalling. Oh they can't get their miner to work for months but a guy in Bulgaria can get their chips working on his board in a couple of weeks. At least KNC can deliver what they promise.
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July 10, 2014, 08:56:50 AM
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All I needed to hear months ago to confirm they are scumbags was "hold on to your coins, they will go fast". For those that remember.

Yeah, bastards. I was looking forward to cobbling together a 6 module super-Jup

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July 10, 2014, 09:27:24 AM
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I do not have a on-wall power meter, and I do not know the actual power consumption of my neppy. On the KnC controlling webpage it shows the entire power is about 1500Watt. Is it all? Or actually it consumes more power than displayed? Could anyone share the entire power consumption?

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July 10, 2014, 10:22:45 AM
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Go back and re-sharpen that pencil....    I find this hard to believe...   You refunded on the opening day of Neptune preorder and made coin?
The price never went that high at any time during the Neptune pre-order "refund era",
Neptunes went up for preorder on December 2nd, and the price was indeed "peaking" around the 1150 price you quote...
It then went down from that day(was actually that price for only a brief moment that day), and it NEVER returned....   so  how could you have possibly refunded at 1150 and still make coin?  Impossible.  You would have had to have refunded at a LOWER price to make coin on that deal.
It's obvious you came here to join the trolling bandwagon with a fistfull of Bullshit.
If you're gonna make shit up, at least get the numbers right.

I pre-ordered my Neptune on November 26th.

Take your own advice and re-sharpen your pencil.  Start with checking facts before subjecting us to yet another brain-fart here on the forum.


seriously!

the guy is as dumb as rocks!

Phonie - inaccurate, false statement #17,042 stated as 'fact'

random BTCtalk member - BS, stop lying, stop making things up

phonie - teehee, u found me out. i'll stop now

phonie -  inaccurate, false statement #17,043 stated as 'fact'

random - yet more lies from a simpleton, just stfu!

phonie - poor ewik always getting picked on, heres another false fact that i made up and misunderstood...

random - FFS! this is getting annoying

phonie - teehee,

phonie -  inaccurate, false statement #17,044 stated as 'fact'

random - no, heres why your wrong.."factual stuff'

phonie - me & my brother are fuckin innocent you pathetic bunch of assholes, fuck you all, i hate you and this place and im leaving in a huff now and i'll never fucking come back again - i swear!!, we are the victims here, we have never scammed anyone ever in our life, i mean lives. fuck you all!! not to mention that im super smart and have a background in non-stupidity and i went to university but got picked on by the bigger boys for  inaccurate, false statements #10,319 - #13,727 stated as 'fact' and after i ran all the way home squealing like a stuck piglet i gave away thousands (of orchids) to orphans and tsunami victims and what did you pathetic fucking assholes ever do for society as a whole apart from help me get my 'own' stolen money back from my  brother you heartless, clueless fucking losers!! and 'aussiepete' is a family man and searing had nothing to do with it...

edgar - shut up you liar, put us all 'back' on ignore

phonie - inaccurate, false statement #17,099 stated as 'fact'

random - FFS!!

phonie - tee hee....

Best post I've read in weeks

Thanks for that good long chuckle!

LOL, comedy gold!

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July 10, 2014, 12:40:34 PM
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Points taken...
Fact remains... if they hadn't had to re-submit the code, Neppies would have been ready sooner.

That's an assumption, not a fact.
Okay, fair enough...

For those of you running a shitload of miners, and going long term, this will help....
http://www.galco.com/circuit/harmon.htm


 Good find Phoenix.  Not only will it save a bit of money but it should prolong the useful life of the miners by making them slightly more energy efficient.

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Good find Phoenix.  Not only will it save a bit of money but it should prolong the useful life of the miners by making them slightly more energy efficient.

And add a bunch more financial overhead that you'll likely never recoup over the lifespan of your mine.  You need to be serviced by a shitty power company that has poor service for a P.F. Capacitor make sense.

Not only that, but any savings are marginal at best. If you take the first row of the chart on that webage as an example, the proposed savings is ~1.23% assuming $0.12 kW/hr.

Also, it won't make your miners more efficient, all it makes the distribution network more "efficient".  However, that's only if your supplier is billing you like a dick in the first place by billing for total consumption and not on just the active power consumed.
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July 10, 2014, 04:24:26 PM
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Good find Phoenix.  Not only will it save a bit of money but it should prolong the useful life of the miners by making them slightly more energy efficient.

And add a bunch more financial overhead that you'll likely never recoup over the lifespan of your mine.  You need to be serviced by a shitty power company that has poor service for a P.F. Capacitor make sense.

Not only that, but any savings are marginal at best. If you take the first row of the chart on that webage as an example, the proposed savings is ~1.23% assuming $0.12 kW/hr.

Also, it won't make your miners more efficient, all it makes the distribution network more "efficient".  However, that's only if your supplier is billing you like a dick in the first place by billing for total consumption and not on just the active power consumed.
Dropt...  In Hawaii we pay 43 cents a kilowatthour, and other places have similar woes. Savings with PFCC's are achieved through magnetic resistance being lowered through resonant pulse, and has absolutely nothing to do with "Quality of service" You really should read a bit more before judging the cuisine. Simply put, the more electric you draw, the higher the savings will be, on a sliding scale. The more power you draw from your meter, the harder it is to draw more, it's called resistance, which is what this fights.  PFCC's make everything run more efficient by enhancing the magnetic field induction which moves the current, especially if your home is full of appliances which use capacitors, making all of them run more efficient with this magnetic field. It will also make those PCI connections COOLER for the same reasons.
and if you read my comment, it was meant for those who have multiple machines for that reason.


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July 10, 2014, 04:37:53 PM
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Dropt...  In Hawaii we pay 43 cents a kilowatthour, and other places have similar woes. Savings with PFC's are achieved through magnetic resistance being lowered through resonant pulse, and has absolutely nothing to do with "Quality of service" You really should read a bit more before judging the cuisine. Simply put, the more electric you draw, the higher the savings will be, on a sliding scale. The more power you draw from your meter, the harder it is to draw more, it's called resistance, which is what this fights.  PFC's make everything run more efficient by enhancing the magnetic field induction which moves the current, especially if your home is full of appliances which use capacitors, making all of them run more efficient with this magnetic field. It will also make those PCI connections COOLER for the same reasons.
and if you read my comment, it was meant for those who have multiple machines for that reason.

ROI on PFC gear is a pipe dream unless you're getting some seriously lousy power from you supplier.

...and you're joking about the PCI bit right? You're not seriously suggesting that one of these things would smooth the DC coming out of your PSU are you?

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July 10, 2014, 04:39:17 PM
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Dropt...  In Hawaii we pay 43 cents a kilowatthour, and other places have similar woes. Savings with PFC's are achieved through magnetic resistance being lowered through resonant pulse, and has absolutely nothing to do with "Quality of service" You really should read a bit more before judging the cuisine. Simply put, the more electric you draw, the higher the savings will be, on a sliding scale. The more power you draw from your meter, the harder it is to draw more, it's called resistance, which is what this fights.  PFC's make everything run more efficient by enhancing the magnetic field induction which moves the current, especially if your home is full of appliances which use capacitors, making all of them run more efficient with this magnetic field. It will also make those PCI connections COOLER for the same reasons.
and if you read my comment, it was meant for those who have multiple machines for that reason.

ROI on PFC gear is a pipe dream unless you're getting some seriously lousy power from you supplier.
Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable. you can save up to 25% on your power bill with PFCC's.


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July 10, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
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Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable.

I read the post; it allowed you to demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject very well.

Are you also a believer in pyramid power by chance?

u27

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I do not have a on-wall power meter, and I do not know the actual power consumption of my neppy. On the KnC controlling webpage it shows the entire power is about 1500Watt. Is it all? Or actually it consumes more power than displayed? Could anyone share the entire power consumption?

it's closer to 2000-2100w.. this only shows what the ASICs are using. It does not include the power that the VRMs are using (conversion loss), the controller card, or the PSUs.

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Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable.

I read the post; it allowed you to demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject very well.

Are you also a believer in pyramid power by chance?

u27
I'm going to ignore your ignorance on this one, I have several years in electrical resonant research and development, as does my brother. We have over 100 members in our study group, which spans the globe, and has been in operation for about 5 years proving what you say is BS. Many new energy saving/producing products will be hitting the market soon as a result of some of our members hard work. "Resonant Electrolysis" The Navy even uses similar resonant applications for propulsion and power supply in their latest vessels http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/tech/innovation/navy-new-technology/ breaking water into HHO and adding a metal catalyst to produce a liquid hydrocarbon fuel in abundance, giving them an unlimited power supply at sea. The applications of this technology are endless.


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July 10, 2014, 04:59:36 PM
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I'm going to ignore your ignorance on this one, I have several years in electrical resonant research and development, as does my brother. We have over 100 members in our study group, which spans the globe, and has been in operation for about 5 years proving what you say is BS. Many new energy saving/producing products will be hitting the market soon as a result of some of our members hard work.

That's a strong "yes" on your belief in pyramid power then; shame Neptune is cubes.

"it's called resistance" and it could increase with load to a possibly significant level on a low voltage DC circuit; that's the reason your supply is AC at a much higher voltage thus effectively eliminating the problem. You can argue that resistance does still increase with load and that's true; just not to a remotely significant level on an AC mains supply.

There is ZERO chance that any variations on the AC supply will make it through a modern switch mode PSU and have am impact on the DC output; you couldn't be more wrong.

"the magnetic field induction which moves the current"... just no.


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July 10, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
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Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable.

I read the post; it allowed you to demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject very well.

Are you also a believer in pyramid power by chance?

u27

Pyramid power... lol, that's the word I was looking for, thank you.

Phoenix.. I asked you before.. do you have any data about what you've actually saved?

Advice to all: If your PSUs are built in the last decade and have an ENERGY STAR rating, they probably already have PFC and this will not help you much. If you are using 10 year old PSUs that probably has a switch that you have to flip to use 120V or 240V on the input, then buy a new power supply.

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Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable.

I read the post; it allowed you to demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject very well.

Are you also a believer in pyramid power by chance?

u27
I'm going to ignore your ignorance on this one, I have several years in electrical resonant research and development, as does my brother. We have over 100 members in our study group, which spans the globe, and has been in operation for about 5 years proving what you say is BS. Many new energy saving/producing products will be hitting the market soon as a result of some of our members hard work. "Resonant Electrolysis" The

Are you working with, or at least following, the EPA's work by chance? Because they covered this a decade ago  and practically all PSUs include their own PFC. In fact, the program was so successful that the EPA has sunset the program. This helped manufacturers reduce PSU failures and returns so it was a no brainer.

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=archives.power_supplies

Can I get my resonant electrolysis pyramid in red please?

Yeah the Navy is doing some cool stuff in their research labs, but electrolysis of seawater is a different topic. If you want to power your miners on seawater, game on dude - send me the specs. I read the article, did you think PFC meant pure fucking catalyst? Wink

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Did you even read the post? Lousy power? Not applicable.

I read the post; it allowed you to demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject very well.

Are you also a believer in pyramid power by chance?

u27

Pyramid power... lol, that's the word I was looking for, thank you.

Phoenix.. I asked you before.. do you have any data about what you've actually saved?

Advice to all: If your PSUs are built in the last decade and have an ENERGY STAR rating, they probably already have PFC and this will not help you much. If you are using 10 year old PSUs that probably has a switch that you have to flip to use 120V or 240V on the input, then buy a new power supply.
If you're not interested, move on. PSU's do not contain PFCC's, lol. They are a totally different animal.
Pyramid power eh?   Don't you have one?  lol  

*There is plenty of "Data" in the link I provided in the original post

I gotta board a plane in a couple hours to go hook up a couple Neppies. TTYL


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July 10, 2014, 05:26:51 PM
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If you're not interested, move on. PSU's do not contain PFCC's, lol. They are a totally different animal.

Almost all PSUs built in the last decade have power factor correction:
http://power-topics.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-is-pfc-and-why-do-i-need-it.html

Most compete on what kind of PFC they offer:
Seasonic.. http://www.seasonicusa.com/faq.htm
Corsair.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
Coolmax.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159020
Enermax.. http://www.ncix.com/detail/enermax-revolution-1000w-atx12v-eps12v80-cf-90791.htm


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