Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Paladin69]

...and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

Is this true?

[fubly]

Any news of delivery / production second batch?

They will start shipping today, got anyone an tracking no?

[CYPER]

...and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

Is this true?

Who is that guy and how does he know if anyone called and when?

[Biffa]

There is still no sign of a fix for the out of memory condition killing cgminer. I wouldn't be pleased to have a nice shiny new november order Jupiter dying periodically for such a simple well known reason, losing hours sitting there waiting for me to wake up and notice because they neglected to include a watchdog to keep the thing running and/or neglected to ensure their software fit into the amount of RAM they saw fit to build into the unit...

-MarkM-

I believe the issue there is/was while using Bertmod, the ram is otherwise sufficient.
It has 512MB of DDR3
You have something else going on?

I agree with Mark there is a memory leak somewhere, on some machines at least.

I've had the best luck with running cgminer 3.7.2 manually after killing the one that comes with the knc firmware, but even then after 3 days free memory has dropped 100MB, from 250MB down to 150MB free, I haven't had it drop so low that it stops mining like Mark has, but I've seen it drop down to the 12MB free mark before I rebooted.

**BIFFA*** I think you "Hit the nail on the head"
This could surely explain the tapering down of speed after a reboot to such nice levels...

Also, someone mentioned earlier about staying off the status page helping out a bit...so far...I must agree.
No Putty, no GUI, just monitoring from the pool seems to help

OK just for reference, as you may or may not remember my Jupiter really only runs well on 0.96

So I have been running it on vanilla 0.96 (cgminer 3.4.0) for 3 days solid, and memory usage is tiny.

Mem: 48476K used, 462096K free, 0K shrd, 28K buff, 36732K cached

[edgar]

polite requests are ignored

phonecalls go unanswered

emails are answered by an automated response that promises a human response that NEVER arrives

forum posts are ignored or smeared with dung by the lucky/paid/bored/ignorant

unreasonable demands are made of CUSTOMERS who are illegally referred to as BUSINESSES

it is a big scam, and we are the investdurrs.

that SOME of us made +ROI (in USD) is immaterial for those of us that did not.

boasting of your 'success' or your 'method' is irritating to say the least when genuine concerns are deemed as TROLLING.

wipe the drool from your mouth and open your eyes!

modules ordered & paid for AFTER november orders will be shipped this week? next week? so when will the november orders get shipped?

30th november just to stay 'honest'

1st of dec due to EXTRA modules needing to be shipped a week or so late?

do we have ANY say in what is expected?

i hate the fact that we have to backflip through hoops & moonwalk on eggshells to get what we paid for (a fully functional rig)

while the million dollar success story is plastered all over the world ignoring the multitude of LEGITIMATE concerns are overlooked or passed of as false

(ignore button is a pathetic threat made by pathetic individuals)

'do what i say or i'll press a button to ignore you without actually ignoring you' - awesome!

[Wesly]

BTW..  Upon further investigation, I found this inside the CB700 PSU...

IMAGE
Blew my mind.....

What is it?

Notice the plastic shield blocking nearly 1/2 the airflow?
This 700w psu should have been fine on a saturn, but overheated catastrophically in less than 5 minutes...  no fault of the Saturn, they run great on the cx600's...   at one point, I had two hashing boards patched into my desktop's psu(while running), a tx750. I even messed up once(which I rarely admit to) , and plugged a hashing board onto a live pci power lead, from the desktop....a few sparks flew...  but everything still works fine... they are actually pretty durable high-quality electronics on these boards. Forgiving, yes, but I'd never recommend doing that...just to be clear!

Actually it is by design.  The baffler is there to force the air to go over all of the internal PSU components instead of the more direct and shorter path out the exhaust vent.  Here are more examples of other PSU manufacturers (Corsair and Seasonic) employing similar bafflers that partially covers the intake fans (toward the side of the vent).

[Phoenix1969]

BTW..  Upon further investigation, I found this inside the CB700 PSU...

IMAGE
Blew my mind.....

What is it?

Notice the plastic shield blocking nearly 1/2 the airflow?
This 700w psu should have been fine on a saturn, but overheated catastrophically in less than 5 minutes...  no fault of the Saturn, they run great on the cx600's...   at one point, I had two hashing boards patched into my desktop's psu(while running), a tx750. I even messed up once(which I rarely admit to) , and plugged a hashing board onto a live pci power lead, from the desktop....a few sparks flew...  but everything still works fine... they are actually pretty durable high-quality electronics on these boards. Forgiving, yes, but I'd never recommend doing that...just to be clear!

Actually it is by design.  The baffler is there to force the air to go over all of the internal PSU components instead of the more direct and shorter path out the exhaust vent.  Here are more examples of other PSU manufacturers (Corsair and Seasonic) employing similar bafflers that partially covers the intake fans (toward the side of the vent).

yep...  guess they don't realize that severely reduces the overall cfm & cooling ability doing that, it actually does less "Directing" and more "Restricting" IMHO...  my example would be the unit that toasted using barely 300 watts (and freshly pulled from a running desktop)

[soy]

BTW..  Upon further investigation, I found this inside the CB700 PSU...

IMAGE
Blew my mind.....

What is it?

Notice the plastic shield blocking nearly 1/2 the airflow?
This 700w psu should have been fine on a saturn, but overheated catastrophically in less than 5 minutes...  no fault of the Saturn, they run great on the cx600's...   at one point, I had two hashing boards patched into my desktop's psu(while running), a tx750. I even messed up once(which I rarely admit to) , and plugged a hashing board onto a live pci power lead, from the desktop....a few sparks flew...  but everything still works fine... they are actually pretty durable high-quality electronics on these boards. Forgiving, yes, but I'd never recommend doing that...just to be clear!

Actually it is by design.  The baffler is there to force the air to go over all of the internal PSU components instead of the more direct and shorter path out the exhaust vent.  Here are more examples of other PSU manufacturers (Corsair and Seasonic) employing similar bafflers that partially covers the intake fans (toward the side of the vent).

yep...  guess they don't realize that severely reduces the overall cfm & cooling ability doing that, it actually does less "Directing" and more "Restricting" IMHO...  my example would be the unit that toasted using barely 300 watts (and freshly pulled from a running desktop)

What works in a desktop might not power a miner.  I had a power supply label that said good for 15 amps on the 12v rail and the supply tests good and ran a computer but when I tried to power a Blade it failed miserably.  Days later I remembered many inconstant sometimes failing DVD burns so it actually hadn't been powering the computer properly.

[Wesly]

Actually it is by design.  The baffler is there to force the air to go over all of the internal PSU components instead of the more direct and shorter path out the exhaust vent.  Here are more examples of other PSU manufacturers (Corsair and Seasonic) employing similar bafflers that partially covers the intake fans (toward the side of the vent).

yep...  guess they don't realize that severely reduces the overall cfm & cooling ability doing that, it actually does less "Directing" and more "Restricting" IMHO...  my example would be the unit that toasted using barely 300 watts (and freshly pulled from a running desktop)

Who manufacture your PSU?  Looks like the baffler is longer than the one used by Seasonic and Corsair and doesn't look as rigid.  It might be better to trim it instead of eliminate it completely.

[KGBSlim]

...and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

Is this true?

Who is that guy and how does he know if anyone called and when?

Cyper I was referring to that guy on the KnC forums. The guy that owns 10Jupiters. He said today on there "I called and talked to Liam and modules will be sent out Monday" - not exact words but you get what I mean.

[cognoscente]

polite requests are ignored

phonecalls go unanswered

emails are answered by an automated response that promises a human response that NEVER arrives

forum posts are ignored or smeared with dung by the lucky/paid/bored/ignorant

unreasonable demands are made of CUSTOMERS who are illegally referred to as BUSINESSES

it is a big scam, and we are the investdurrs.

that SOME of us made +ROI (in USD) is immaterial for those of us that did not.

boasting of your 'success' or your 'method' is irritating to say the least when genuine concerns are deemed as TROLLING.

wipe the drool from your mouth and open your eyes!

modules ordered & paid for AFTER november orders will be shipped this week? next week? so when will the november orders get shipped?

30th november just to stay 'honest'

1st of dec due to EXTRA modules needing to be shipped a week or so late?

do we have ANY say in what is expected?

i hate the fact that we have to backflip through hoops & moonwalk on eggshells to get what we paid for (a fully functional rig)

while the million dollar success story is plastered all over the world ignoring the multitude of LEGITIMATE concerns are overlooked or passed of as false

(ignore button is a pathetic threat made by pathetic individuals)

'do what i say or i'll press a button to ignore you without actually ignoring you' - awesome!

+1

[rolling]

...and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

Is this true?

Who is that guy and how does he know if anyone called and when?

Cyper I was referring to that guy on the KnC forums. The guy that owns 10Jupiters. He said today on there "I called and talked to Liam and modules will be sent out Monday" - not exact words but you get what I mean.

If this is true, why wouldn't Orama come on here and tell us if there was a delay. He's not just going to put his head in the sand and pretend like nothing happened.  Give him some credit.

[DeathAndTaxes]

yep...  guess they don't realize that severely reduces the overall cfm & cooling ability doing that, it actually does less "Directing" and more "Restricting" IMHO...  my example would be the unit that toasted using barely 300 watts (and freshly pulled from a running desktop)

You must be right.  The largest OEMs which ship tens of millions of PSU don't know what restriction their cases and designs are doing.  They probably had some kid just slap one on because it looked cool.  No possible chance they measured he restriction and airflow in a lab before going into production. That is one possibility. 

The other one is that you just have a defective unit.

SeaSonic X-1250 has the same exact "diverter flap" I used 12 of them for almost two years in high ambient temp garage and had no failures.  If you open up 90% of PSU on the market today they have a flap similar to that.   It is to prevent the airflow from bypassing the high heat components.

[Paladin69]

...and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

Is this true?

Who is that guy and how does he know if anyone called and when?

Cyper I was referring to that guy on the KnC forums. The guy that owns 10Jupiters. He said today on there "I called and talked to Liam and modules will be sent out Monday" - not exact words but you get what I mean.

They really should not have started taking orders so soon then.  That especially hurts in BTC right now.  Should have at least gave people a fiat payment option if it had to be ordered this past Tuesday.

[helmax]

a lot of people angry with the knc??
What's going on?

[Scoobypup]

a lot of people angry with the knc??
What's going on?

Have you not read the previous 1090 pages of this thread?
/sarcasm

[DPoS]

I've always got a reply to my emails from KNC and I've been pretty critical but also gave plenty credit where it is due.

Perhaps people shoot off too many emails so they skip them



about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

[Bogart]

So I just soldered connectors into positions 5 and 6 on my Saturn's control board and connected the modules to them.  So far it seems to be working fine.

Now I just need my upgrade modules to arrive and I'll be ready to try making a 5-module miner.

[Phoenix1969]

I've always got a reply to my emails from KNC and I've been pretty critical but also gave plenty credit where it is due.

Perhaps people shoot off too many emails so they skip them



about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

Absolutely... and "too many" may also be marked as spam by most e-mail services and automatically plopped into the spam folder...

[Tehfiend]

So I just soldered connectors into positions 5 and 6 on my Saturn's control board and connected the modules to them.  So far it seems to be working fine.

Now I just need my upgrade modules to arrive and I'll be ready to try making a 5-module miner.

Nice! I was going to try that too but didn't get enough notice on the sale to order the pin headers in time and didn't feel like taking the risk without testing first...