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November 12, 2013, 04:34:54 AM
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anyone see advantage buy upgrade for saturn? or is waste money
the difficulty will increase and companies to stay with our money

My estimation is that you can make about 4.6 BTC extra with one upgrade, so almost 2 BTC profit, assuming your upgrade starts hashing at the beginning of next difficulty adjustment.

The fact that BTC is at an historic high price makes this deal very attractive—because the price of the upgrade in BTC is low—so it is a good deal if you plan to reinvest BTC you already mined.

You should compare this to the price AVALON is currently selling it's four module miner 5.5 BTC for 110 GH/s at 750 W (twice as expensive for less hashrate and around 4 times the power consumption)


I think it is pretty clear that the ones that keep saying 'not worth it to buy miners!! any miners!!' are the ones not wanting anyone ELSE to buy miners because if they didn't care to buy why on earth would they hang out and try to save everyone money? Every hour they remind you not to buy miners.

Not even your Mother would try to help you save money that much


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November 12, 2013, 04:42:48 AM
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anyone see advantage buy upgrade for saturn? or is waste money
the difficulty will increase and companies to stay with our money

My estimation is that you can make about 4.6 BTC extra with one upgrade, so almost 2 BTC profit, assuming your upgrade starts hashing at the beginning of next difficulty adjustment.

The fact that BTC is at a historic high price makes this deal very attractive—because the price of the upgrade in BTC is low—so it is a good deal if you plan to reinvest BTC you already mined.

You should compare this to the price AVALON is currently selling it's four module miner 5.5 BTC for 110 GH/s at 750 W (twice as expensive for less hashrate and around 4 times the power consumption)


I think it is pretty clear that the ones that keep saying 'not worth it to buy miners!! any miners!!' are the ones not wanting anyone ELSE to buy miners because if they didn't care to buy why on earth would they hang out and try to save everyone money? Every hour they remind you not to buy miners.

Not even your Mother would try to help you save money that much



Well, there's some truth on what you say, but they have been right most of the time until now, as almost all preorders deals (including our own preorders with KNC) have fallen short of making profit in BTC. And I'm sure that those buying Cointerra's or other preorders to come will find that true as well. The difference with these upgrades is that they are ready (or almost ready) to ship, so the error margin when making the estimations is lower.

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November 12, 2013, 06:23:29 AM
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My Aussie Friend has a Jupiter still in his cart, and was wondering if he was able to pay the invoice within a few days, if the order is still available?... Even though the miner page says "sold out"... the cart looks to still be in order...  ?


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November 12, 2013, 06:25:26 AM
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My Aussie Friend has a Jupiter still in his cart, and was wondering if he was able to pay the invoice within a few days, if the order is still available?... Even though the miner page says "sold out"... the cart looks to still be in order...  ?

I tried today.. had one too but the page just loops and never puts it into cart's next page

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November 12, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
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My Aussie Friend has a Jupiter still in his cart, and was wondering if he was able to pay the invoice within a few days, if the order is still available?... Even though the miner page says "sold out"... the cart looks to still be in order...  ?

I tried today.. had one too but the page just loops and never puts it into cart's next page
It has already been in the cart for a few days....and shows as "New" on "My Orders" page..but hasn't paid for it yet...  
You have same??


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November 12, 2013, 06:32:07 AM
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My Aussie Friend has a Jupiter still in his cart, and was wondering if he was able to pay the invoice within a few days, if the order is still available?... Even though the miner page says "sold out"... the cart looks to still be in order...  ?

I tried today.. had one too but the page just loops and never puts it into cart's next page
It has already been in the cart for a few days....and shows as "New" on "My Orders" page..but hasn't paid for it yet...   you same??

Mine showed in top right as 1 item in cart.. i went to it and tried to pay but it just kept refreshing back to it in cart ..  maybe you get lucky?

I already cleared it out so cant try now

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November 12, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
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There is still no sign of a fix for the out of memory condition killing cgminer. I wouldn't be pleased to have a nice shiny new november order Jupiter dying periodically for such a simple well known reason, losing hours sitting there waiting for me to wake up and notice because they neglected to include a watchdog to keep the thing running and/or neglected to ensure their software fit into the amount of RAM they saw fit to build into the unit...

-MarkM-

I believe the issue there is/was while using Bertmod, the ram is otherwise sufficient.
It has 512MB of DDR3
You have something else going on?

I agree with Mark there is a memory leak somewhere, on some machines at least.

I've had the best luck with running cgminer 3.7.2 manually after killing the one that comes with the knc firmware, but even then after 3 days free memory has dropped 100MB, from 250MB down to 150MB free, I haven't had it drop so low that it stops mining like Mark has, but I've seen it drop down to the 12MB free mark before I rebooted.
**BIFFA*** I think you "Hit the nail on the head"
This could surely explain the tapering down of speed after a reboot to such nice levels...

Also, someone mentioned earlier about staying off the status page helping out a bit...so far...I must agree.
No Putty, no GUI, just monitoring from the pool seems to help


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November 12, 2013, 07:07:04 AM
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You should compare this to the price AVALON is currently selling it's four module miner 5.5 BTC for 110 GH/s at 750 W (twice as expensive for less hashrate and around 4 times the power consumption)

No you shouldnt. I guess this is one of the great miner fallacies, comparing mining hardware to each other rather than judging it by itself on its profitability. Its not because miner A is an even worse deal than  miner B, that the latter is a good deal.

disclaimer: Ive not done the math, so Im not saying these modules are not a good deal, just that it being better than other worthless deals doesnt make it a good one.
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extra modules are a shit deal if your early pre-order september delivery arrived at the end of october and has no 'extra' connectors attached..

and besides - despite more than one miner doing exactly that, the f/w isnt designed to accept 6 modules....apparently... IF youre lucky enough to have them.

i wonder if the 4 un-needed VRMs will become necessary again.

now i also wonder if there is any correlation between 6 module boards and 8 vrm modules....

probably not eh?

im tempted to buy a couple just in case i ever need an RMA and dont want/deserve to be left 'getting by'
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You should compare this to the price AVALON is currently selling it's four module miner 5.5 BTC for 110 GH/s at 750 W (twice as expensive for less hashrate and around 4 times the power consumption)

No you shouldnt. I guess this is one of the great miner fallacies, comparing mining hardware to each other rather than judging it by itself on its profitability. Its not because miner A is an even worse deal than  miner B, that the latter is a good deal.

disclaimer: Ive not done the math, so Im not saying these modules are not a good deal, just that it being better than other worthless deals doesnt make it a good one.

Yes, that what concerns me. Even though the price per gh is very good compared to others. But assuming all goes the way it did, I will not mine back my btcs. If they accepted credit cards/paypal I would jump in as a decent indirect way to buy bitcoin with credit card. Everyone is talking about "better to buy bitcoins", but there seems to be no easy way to do it with credit card without ridiculous surcharges. BTW, if someone wants to sell me BTC at mtgox price via paypal, pm me. So, I am leaning towards not getting these modules.
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November 12, 2013, 07:46:48 AM
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BTW, if someone wants to sell me BTC at mtgox price via paypal, pm me.

No one sane would sell you bitcoins for paypal. THere is a reason you cant buy bitcoins for visa/pp. How would the seller know you wouldnt do a chargeback after receiving the coins ?
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BTW, if someone wants to sell me BTC at mtgox price via paypal, pm me.

No one sane would sell you bitcoins for paypal. THere is a reason you cant buy bitcoins for visa/pp. How would the seller know you wouldnt do a chargeback after receiving the coins ?

That's my point.
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November 12, 2013, 08:02:07 AM
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o'rama,

Talk knc into using fiat for modules plz.

+1 lol

they canceled my order from Thursday last week without any information to me. it was wire transfer!

ohh man, will these ASIC producers never learn what customer/investors makes happy?

they are rich now, right? and where came the money from?



is their customer support still reachable via phone? got a scandinavian voice from tape which I did not understand quite well. is this a international company and where can I read the business hours of the company?

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Our second wave of shipment has sold out faster than we expected. We had aimed to sell from stock. However, due to the recent BTC price activity we sold.

what does this mean??
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i sold some BTC via paypal, but only trusted ppl.

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November 12, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
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Orama, the selling of the modules tomorrow/tonight,

Do these modules come with the heatsinks, right? And the that special data cable we will need.



Heatsink, no, it's readily available, and not worth the shipping cost to you to have it globally couriered from Stockholm to country X. It's a heavy thing to ship for something that's approx £30 online.

Cables, PCI-E extension leads, screws, and that blank aluminium pieces that affixes the heatsink to the board, ya.

So what heatsinks can we use?

I'm not one for donations but if you must go ahead and I will keep you in mind. =)
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is their customer support still reachable via phone? got a scandinavian voice from tape which I did not understand quite well. is this a international company and where can I read the business hours of the company?

thank you!


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Our second wave of shipment has sold out faster than we expected. We had aimed to sell from stock. However, due to the recent BTC price activity we sold.

what does this mean??

From 9am yes, from 6/7am, dependant on when you rang earlier, no.

It's CET time here, 6 hours ahead of New York (EST), and 1 hour ahead of London (GMT).

Cust Serv are allowed to sleep. They are also allowed weekends off. The rest of us, not so lucky, although I suffer from insomnia.

What the above means is media hype in the press caused a shit load of attention despite the fact we weren't trying with Adwords and some new peeps found out about mining, coupled with those that were set on waiting the pre-order game until a proven product existed. They ordered, stock sold.

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November 12, 2013, 08:24:36 AM
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Orama, the selling of the modules tomorrow/tonight,

Do these modules come with the heatsinks, right? And the that special data cable we will need.



Heatsink, no, it's readily available, and not worth the shipping cost to you to have it globally couriered from Stockholm to country X. It's a heavy thing to ship for something that's approx £30 online.

Cables, PCI-E extension leads, screws, and that blank aluminium pieces that affixes the heatsink to the board, ya.

So what heatsinks can we use?
Its a long thread, so I understand, but this has been posted several times.
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November 12, 2013, 08:31:32 AM
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Orama, the selling of the modules tomorrow/tonight,

Do these modules come with the heatsinks, right? And the that special data cable we will need.



Heatsink, no, it's readily available, and not worth the shipping cost to you to have it globally couriered from Stockholm to country X. It's a heavy thing to ship for something that's approx £30 online.

Cables, PCI-E extension leads, screws, and that blank aluminium pieces that affixes the heatsink to the board, ya.

So what heatsinks can we use?

I'd imagine, the one in the huge picture I posted, after the huge pictures Cyper posted last night. Failing that, they are the exact same as the ones you currently have which are rated for 320W. Arctic Freezer i30, approx £25-30. Wink

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is their customer support still reachable via phone? got a scandinavian voice from tape which I did not understand quite well. is this a international company and where can I read the business hours of the company?

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Our second wave of shipment has sold out faster than we expected. We had aimed to sell from stock. However, due to the recent BTC price activity we sold.

what does this mean??

From 9am yes, from 6/7am, dependant on when you rang earlier, no.

It's CET time here, 6 hours ahead of New York (EST), and 1 hour ahead of London (GMT).

Cust Serv are allowed to sleep. They are also allowed weekends off. The rest of us, not so lucky, although I suffer from insomnia.

What the above means is media hype in the press caused a shit load of attention despite the fact we weren't trying with Adwords and some new peeps found out about mining, coupled with those that were set on waiting the pre-order game until a proven product existed. They ordered, stock sold.

thank you, Bitcoinorama!

I ordered via wire transfer last week in the night from Thursday to Friday and yesterday they canceled the order. So, 1.5 business days to pay via wire transfer? This is not a good business code of practice! I still try to reach them by phone but no sucess so far. Just a scandinavian voice from tape.  Angry
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November 12, 2013, 08:33:55 AM
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Question for bitcoinorama/KNC SUPPORT in regards to upgrade modules......

So I have a Saturn, and what looks like to be 4 controller ports/connections on the beagle board. During one of the firmware updates, I believe I tried one of those ports, but it didn't seem to run the chip board....so how do I know if my saturn can support 2 more modules, and if it doesn't, will they refund?

If there's a hardware issue with the controller boars, send it back and I'll replace it. Can you check, and confirm?

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