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November 11, 2013, 07:08:11 PM
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(...) including a redesign of the PCBs (...)

how long did it take BFL to come up with a revised version of their PCB...?

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November 11, 2013, 07:08:17 PM
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I think they are really designed for Mercury and Saturn owners rather than Jupiter owners.

Yea, I know.  =(  As always, KNC gives you just enough information to create a bunch of false assumptions and countless questions.    

I can see Phoenix1969 all over this deal.   (funny, someone else just posted about Phoenix)  hahah
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November 11, 2013, 07:09:26 PM
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Kinda lame that the extra $950 modules are BTC only.

2.65BTC for a 140GH/s module.

Can you mine 2.65BTC back?

No you can't.

0.13 btc/day at the current diff, and after knc blows their November load that gets even worse.

What are you talking about.   Of course you'll be able to mine 2.65.   I'd say you will break even after 1 month (BTC in/out).  This is a very fair price and would like to hear about how they recommend connecting 6 chips to a single Jupiter.     My units are hosted so I may be out of luck but if we can upgrade Hosted Jupiters, I'd love to. We still have 6 months of hosting to use up and its not like I'm paying for power!

Do your math again.  Next diff will be close to 600m.  Then KnC unleashes another 2+ PH for November.  Probably another 1PH by others.  You'll be chasing your tail.
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November 11, 2013, 07:09:52 PM
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For November boxes there is good news though we have had time to revise our product further including a redesign of the PCBs, We can confirm that our November customers should expect a performance increase.

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not funny! ok october deliveries where already able to mine coins. but a lot of them where struggling with not fully working machines and now this? i hope they have some good news for early adopters any time soon!

i am happy that my two machines are now working at full power but there are still a few out there that had not so much luck.

and i have to say that it was a good idea from me to buy two 1200w PSUs Cheesy. let's see what this tuning update will bring.
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November 11, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
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(...) including a redesign of the PCBs (...)

how long did it take BFL to come up with a revised version of their PCB...?

Just enough time for GigaVPS and a few other select friends to ROI with the extra $$$ NDA's plunked down to protect the network for them.
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November 11, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
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dammit i need bit coins to buy upgrades now. anyone willing to sell me some? i don't have enough money in Cavirtex again of course.....

I'm looking to buy about 8 bit coins, can anyone help a brother out?
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November 11, 2013, 07:11:30 PM
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For November boxes there is good news though we have had time to revise our product further including a redesign of the PCBs, We can confirm that our November customers should expect a performance increase.

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not funny! ok october deliveries where already able to mine coins. but a lot of them where struggling with not fully working machines and now this? i hope they have some good news for early adopters any time soon!

i am happy that my two machines are now working at full power but there are still a few out there that had not so much luck.

and i have to say that it was a good idea from me to buy two 1200w PSUs Cheesy. let's see what this tuning update will bring.

Oh come on, with the difficulty increases you were MUCH better off mining early at 400Gh/s than later at 550Gh/s

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November 11, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
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So will the Jupiter run with 6 modules? With what PSU?
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November 11, 2013, 07:15:24 PM
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Do your math again.  Next diff will be close to 600m.  Then KnC unleashes another 2+ PH for November.  Probably another 1PH by others

I am fully aware of the difficulty increases and i feel we are in a slow uptrend for the remaining weeks of this year which is when you'll recoup your BTC for these upgrades.   I really feel you'll break even before the end of the year but no one really knows until we look back.  Today's gamble on these units are very low risk and hashing away for another year with these boards will do nothing but bring you more BTC.   If they said you'll get your units in mid-december I wouldn't touch them but with a fairly quick turn around I don't feel this is a high risk move and will reward the miners for being KNC customers.

we will see! 
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November 11, 2013, 07:17:30 PM
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would like to hear about how they recommend connecting 6 chips to a single Jupiter.
The host on some Jupiters has 6 ports but some only have 4.  Not sure if it is "early" vs "late" shipping or just random but if someone has only a rig with only a 4 port host it is not possible.  If you have a 6 port host there are reports in this thread of it working fine with 5 or 6 modules connected (one user took 2 boards from a Saturn to make a "Super Jupiter). Obviously you will be using more power so the power supply should be raised.  At least 1000W (on 12V rail) for 5 modules, 1250W for 6 modules.

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Myy units are hosted so I may be out of luck but if we can upgrade Hosted Jupiters, I'd love to. We still have 6 months of hosting to use up and its not like I'm paying for power!
IIRC the photos of the hosting "shelves" had standoffs for 6 modules.  So it is possible, if they will ever offer it is another question.
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November 11, 2013, 07:20:16 PM
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So will the Jupiter run with 6 modules? With what PSU?

Yes, I'm currently running 5. I tried 6 and it works.

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November 11, 2013, 07:21:25 PM
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anyone? anyone? bueller?
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November 11, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
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So will the Jupiter run with 6 modules? With what PSU?

Yes, I'm currently running 5. I tried 6 and it works.

I thought the firmware was locked to 4?

Yeah some people only have 4 physical ports...not sure how they will handle that.
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November 11, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
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So will the Jupiter run with 6 modules? With what PSU?

very rough estimate would say about 125W per module for FW 98.1 beta

So a 1000W PSU will handle it, but you would need 6 PCI outputs.  Running two PSUs is doable but watch your steps


My EVGA PSU that runs a PC and a Jupiter has 6 so I will swap that PSU out to the other Jupiter that will get the 2 extra modules. (if I'm able to order fast enough)




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November 11, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
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Having completed our first shipment. We have taken stock of remaining inventory. We now have some available to sell as the promised upgrade modules. These upgrade modules will be available for sale tomorrow on the KnCMiner site, at 2pm CET (8am EST). They are priced at $950 (USD), but exclusively for sale in Bitcoins (BTC). They are only available for sale to existing KnCMiner customers, and will only work with units from the October shipment, as board modifications make them incompatible with the November revision.

I sure hope I qualify as an existing customer.

I purchased my October Saturn from someone else, not directly from KnC.

However, as of Saturday I have my own KnC store account with a paid order for a November Jupiter.

Naturally I now want to buy modules to fill out my October Saturn.

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November 11, 2013, 07:27:57 PM
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Does Anyone knows for each miners does the upgrade apply? is it only for Saturn and Mercury? or also for Jupiter?


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November 11, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
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Does Anyone knows for each miners does the upgrade apply? is it only for Saturn and Mercury? or also for Jupiter?




If you have a Jupiter also remember you will need to be creative on how you mount the heatsink since they go directly into the bottom case

perfect time to just make custom..  I already bought some extra long 10 pin cables so that's one less thing to worry about.


also, I have a 3D printer, so I don't have an excuse in cooking something up.. 


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November 11, 2013, 07:29:50 PM
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Of course, that this upgrade is for Saturn/Mercury - just because there is no space in Jupiter for add any new modul + majority of KNC miner owners have got only 4 connectors on control board
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November 11, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
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Does Anyone knows for each miners does the upgrade apply? is it only for Saturn and Mercury? or also for Jupiter?




If you have a Jupiter also remember you will need to be creative on how you mount the heatsink since they go directly into the bottom case

perfect time to just make custom..  I already bought some extra long 10 pin cables so that's one less thing to worry about.


also, I have a 3D printer, so I don't have an excuse in cooking something up.. 



Could you give me a link to that cables?

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November 11, 2013, 07:36:14 PM
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Having completed our first shipment. We have taken stock of remaining inventory. We now have some available to sell as the promised upgrade modules. These upgrade modules will be available for sale tomorrow on the KnCMiner site, at 2pm CET (8am EST). They are priced at $950 (USD), but exclusively for sale in Bitcoins (BTC). They are only available for sale to existing KnCMiner customers, and will only work with units from the October shipment, as board modifications make them incompatible with the November revision.

I sure hope I qualify as an existing customer.

I purchased my October Saturn from someone else, not directly from KnC.

I'm not sure how they'd manage that.  It would seem to open the door to anyone making such a claim.  I suppose we shall see.
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