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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (2.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.7%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.4%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (7.1%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (10.7%)
$95K to $100K - 28 (20%)
>$100K - 80 (57.1%)
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September 30, 2020, 08:45:46 AM

switzerland is leading in crypto... you can pay your taxes in bitcoin in Zug and....


just found out there is a Hodlerstrasse in the Swiss capital Bern. google it.   Cheesy


the only pic I found is a bunch of junkies.


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switzerland is leading in crypto... you can pay your taxes in bitcoin in Zug and....


just found out there is a Hodlerstrasse in the Swiss capital Bern. google it.   Cheesy


the only pic I found is a bunch of junkies.


There is at least another one in the city of St. Gallen. Though I have solid thrid hand information they didn't name it after GameKyuubi's post. There are however plans to rename the Hodlerstrasse in 2024 to "Rue de filthy rich".
The swiss phonebook yields 146 people with last name Hodler, but I am sure there are much more hodlers around here.

There are even two villages called Holderbank and a famous swiss artist is named Ferdinand Hodler.

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might explain some things
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switzerland is leading in crypto... you can pay your taxes in bitcoin in Zug and....


just found out there is a Hodlerstrasse in the Swiss capital Bern. google it.   Cheesy


the only pic I found is a bunch of junkies.


There is at least another one in the city of St. Gallen. Though I have solid thrid hand information they didn't name it after GameKyuubi's post. There are however plans to rename the Hodlerstrasse in 2024 to "Rue de filthy rich".
The swiss phonebook yields 146 people with last name Hodler, but I am sure there are much more hodlers around here.

There are even two villages called Holderbank and a famous swiss artist is named Ferdinand Hodler.




the fun thing about this famous Swiss artist (he was into realism...) that one of his most famous paintings he did was titled...




... guess it...





...it´s really cool...










wait for it...







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the fun thing about this famous Swiss artist (he was into realism...) that one of his most famous paintings he did was titled...

I was disappointed to see a bull with no horns tbh.

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Here, have another one:

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How are all you CoinClowns and BagHodlers doing today?   You duped enough naive people ready for your next round of the BTC ponzi scheme?

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the fun thing about this famous Swiss artist (he was into realism...) that one of his most famous paintings he did was titled...

I was disappointed to see a bull with no horns tbh.

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Bulls epitomize masculinity in the animal kingdom, symbolizing strength and power in both their physical and spiritual presence. These massive creatures are unpredictable and appear to have bouts of aggressive rage directed at whoever is unlucky enough to find itself in its path.

Here, have another one:



hodlers bull got horns but they are pointed towards the artist. he was a realist.

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How are all you CoinClowns and BagHodlers doing today?   You duped enough naive people ready for your next round of the BTC ponzi scheme?




have fun staying poor.
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September 30, 2020, 10:32:38 AM

How are all you CoinClowns and BagHodlers doing today?   You duped enough naive people ready for your next round of the BTC ponzi scheme?


I wish I could be as intelligent as you. I Will keep holding like a looser
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September 30, 2020, 10:39:59 AM

switzerland is leading in crypto... you can pay your taxes in bitcoin in Zug and....


just found out there is a Hodlerstrasse in the Swiss capital Bern. google it.   Cheesy


the only pic I found is a bunch of junkies.




Switzerland is great, has the best democracy and is maximum neutral on nearly any topic

( see eg https://www.bitcoinsuisse.com/fundamentals/what-is-bitcoin-sv)

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September 30, 2020, 12:30:36 PM
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God help us all.

If you don't do anything to help yourself, "God" most certainly won't.

"God" is just a very old name for "existence".
But yes.
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September 30, 2020, 12:57:08 PM

hodlers bull got horns but they are pointed towards the artist. he was a realist.

So it seems, but they are very discreet, and coat coloring really put me off - and remind it me of cows (small horns).
Is this it?:



If it wasn't for his dong...
Realist? I'm sorry, but I don't share that point of view (at least not for this piece). Most likely there were many cows outside his window.

It's all about the horns - the bigger, the better.



"God" is just a very old name for "existence".

Didn't know that, thanks. Any source/hint to dig in?
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hodlers bull got horns but they are pointed towards the artist. he was a realist.

So it seems, but they are very discreet, and coat coloring really put me off - and remind it me of cows (small horns).
Is this it?:



If it wasn't for his dong...
Realist? I'm sorry, but I don't share that point of view (at least not for this piece). Most likely there were many cows outside his window.

It's all about the horns - the bigger, the better.

it is not really a point of view. it is a part of art nomenclature.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Hodler
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"God" is just a very old name for "existence".

Didn't know that, thanks. Any source/hint to dig in?

Yes, but only in german.
https://homepage.univie.ac.at/Erwin.Bader/Schoepfung_zeitlich.html

Based on an alternative translation of JHWH (Jahweh) as "I am" or "i am here (to be)".
Imho, this is also the most logical translation.
It spins around the philosophic question of origin: which was first? existence or the creator? can a creator exist without existence?
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Boletín de Bitcoin Optech # 117
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/
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Boletín de Bitcoin Optech # 117
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/

Just remember that this idea was born from a post here on Bitcointalk!.
This is a great legacy from Hal, that others have picked up, building on top of it.

wut no Caucasus map ^^  Huh



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this week. only this bybt.com source so far




I am proud to say that my spreadsheet on Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! is apparently capable of tracking those coins.




Catching up with the WO, I am on page 27306 on par now!
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Boletín de Bitcoin Optech # 117
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/

Just remember that this idea was born from a post here on Bitcointalk!.
This is a great legacy from Hal, that others have picked up, building on top of it.




I know, I visited Hal thread yesterday, it never ceases to amaze me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55283820#msg55283820
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