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1BTC=1BTC= 18,000,000 USD

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it's just household wealth. pointless. better start working out that body. Hal is Great, but not our God
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#BTC  if history rhymes


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it's just household wealth. pointless. better start working out that body. Hal is Great, but not our God

Naaaaaah planB is  Kiss
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September 29, 2020, 12:19:27 PM

I'll take even just $1m. Even if you have to wait 20 years from now. It just seems like it might be sooner than that, or at least we are in the middle of the journey.
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September 29, 2020, 12:44:23 PM

good post as ever. you should write a book. with these brrr events coming it will mean a 15% dip is no worries either, it'll probably be more like 30%, then we hope to reject it with the proverbial rusty pipe. the long term is fine as you say, but we are in for a new-fangled bottom, well below 10k.



Trump don't want handover the president power went to new rules make for america, the point election impact on Covid-19 also trump make election to the situation. Right others button point 10k-11k range break out as soon as possible like in market.

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September 29, 2020, 12:53:00 PM

I'll take even just $1m. Even if you have to wait 20 years from now. It just seems like it might be sooner than that, or at least we are in the middle of the journey.

One mill or close to that will be in about five years if the cycles keep rhyming like they have until now.
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The wealthy cabal depends on internet services companies Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, PayPal, eBay, all the cloud-based services companies, etc. Stock markets depend in the internet. Governments and militaries around the world depend on the internet up and running 24/7/365.

You forgot to mention the entire mainstream banking system.

Edit: ...and media propaganda system.

Oh I definitely forgot about that last one. Can you imagine if the MSM no longer had the internet to spread propaganda, lies, and fake news? To get the people all riled up? Hell they would blow a fkn gasket...

Actually, the MSM is the only ones that still use printed newspapers, they are the only ones that will be able to get their news out if the internet goes down.

Edit: and radio waves.
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One of Hal Finney's lost contributions to Bitcoin Core to be 'resurrected'

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In a February 8, 2011 post on Bitcointalk, Finney said that reading a book titled “Guide to Elliptic Curve Cryptography” by Hankerson, Menezes, and Vanstone, gave him an idea of how to speed up signature verification by 25%. In the following post from the same day, Finney announced that he had already written “test code” and uploaded it to the Github repository. However, there was a problem with Finney’s proposal — his method had already been patented by someone else.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/one-of-hal-finney-s-lost-contributions-to-bitcoin-core-to-be-resurrected

Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Development & Technical Discussion Speeding up signature verification
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3238.0
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hmm  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes twitter spat with swan bitcoin CEO semi-doxing PlanB https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1310637651482030080?s=20
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September 29, 2020, 03:54:39 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Barted back down to where we were for most of the past week... currently $10754USD/$14420CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

October soon. Go Bitcoin go.

They need new shapes, Bart's old.

How about "Stairway to Heaven"?
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hmm  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes twitter spat with swan bitcoin CEO semi-doxing PlanB https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1310637651482030080?s=20

what an entertaining shitshow. cory really seems to hate planB and doxxed planB age and other stuff. I have heard planB on podcasts and he sure does sound like he is in his 40ies or so. cory says he is in his early 20ies.  planB is hinting that cory used swanbitcoin customer data, which cory is the CEO of. cory is very busy defending his attack, planB is silent.

Peter McCormacks is tweeting that he thinks planB is 100trillion years old.

is that what has happened?

I feel like a trashy tabloid reporter.  Cheesy
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hmm  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes twitter spat with swan bitcoin CEO semi-doxing PlanB https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1310637651482030080?s=20

what an entertaining shitshow. cory really seems to hate planB and doxxed planB age and other stuff. I have heard planB on podcasts and he sure does sound like he is in his 40ies or so. cory says he is in his early 20ies.  planB is hinting that cory used swanbitcoin customer data, which cory is the CEO of. cory is very busy defending his attack, planB is silent.

Peter McCormacks is tweeting that he thinks planB is 100trillion years old.

is that what has happened?

I feel like a trashy tabloid reporter.  Cheesy


  If he was an undergraduate in 2011, working at a third-tier bank as an actuary, he had likely graduated in 2011 so he is in his probably in his early thirties.
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They thought rain was God crying...
...and then it was explained, and even predicted.

They thought the Earth was flat...
...and then it was proven to be round, before spaceships could verify it.

They thought objects heavier than air could not fly...
...and then they did, and even went to the moon and beyond.

Some thought light was a wave...
Others thought it was a particle...
...and then it was found that light is BOTH a particle AND a wave...
...simultaneously!

They thought mathematics was complete...
...and then it was proven that it cannot be.



Don't assume that something is or isn't true,
just because it defies our current understanding.

New light shall illuminate the room,
and regions that are now dark and uncharted,
will soon take us to new heights,
and later they will become obvious truths,
used by fools to show off their "expertise",
while trying to sound like Charlie Manson.

Just like Newtonians, who tried to disprove Einstein,
while they were on the same side all along,
like different regions of the same room, both shining bright.

I don't know why I wrote this.
Maybe because I see too many rocks mixed with aliens,
and it saddens me.
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The narrative connecting the top photo to the bottom photo is a delusional fantasy of the modern democratic-capitalist-egalitarian worldview.

Money does not buy happiness, much less marital harmony—much less manhood!  It does not change who you are—what you are.  Life is not a formula in which you are equal to the happy people, except for the external factor of liquid capital.

If you are the lachrymose anthropoid in the top photo, then if you get rich, her reaction will probably be to take the money, and leave you broken and bleeding at the kerb.  As well she should.  You worthless wretch.  She does not have a man—and she needs you like a fish needs a bicycle!  Please do womankind a favour, and consider the health benefits of homosexuality.


What the fuck kind of dick-wielding doormat lets a woman stomp on him that way?  Or lets anyone?

Seriously, if that were normal, expected, or acceptable relationship behaviour for me, then I would go queer.  Because I would have much more self-respect pulling a train with a cock in my mouth and another up my arse.  Why be an effeminate bitch for someone who can’t actually fuck you?  For mental health:  That weepy creature in the photo needs a good hard one, as a cure for hysteria!

Of course, if you are and accept being an irresponsible schoolboy who needs domme-mommy to spank you to keep you on the straight and narrow, then the woman will treat you accordingly.  As well she should!  You don’t deserve her respect.  Respect is earned.  Have merit—get respect.  Be a disgusting exemplar of arrested development—no respect.  Throughout all of history until the Nineteenth Century, women were irresistibly impressed by men.  That changed when weakling modern males invented modern democracy, capitalism, communism, egalitarianism, and feminism—and because men were no longer impressive, women just needed to go where they were led.

This is what a feminist looks like:

John Stuart Mill

By the way, just who the fuck voted for feminist politicians who gave women votes, when women could not vote and were not holders of political offices?  That was the women’s fault, right?  Can men do logic?  No wonder I oftentimes prefer the social company of women:  When they behave like stereotypical females, it is cute and endearing!

Anyway...  Ahem, where was I with that insult-comic routine.  Hah, hah—only serious.

I feel sorry for the vicious raging harridan in that photo.  Men are so hard to find nowadays!  She has a difficult life, with no man in the house, and it is all that twerp’s fault.  My condolences, honey.  If you need to calm down, relax, get some release of all that tension which is clearly driving you insane, then you know where to find me.  I don’t kiss and tell.  Get the easy-to-use Protonmail app, and nobody will ever even know that we were in contact.  (Crypto protip, speaking from experience:  Women love having ways to keep secrets.)

I have zero sympathy for her pet mental-eunuch-with-attached-flesh-dildo.  I hope that he serves her well.  If he’s a good boy, maybe she will even let him wank thinking about what sex was like—way back when she deigned to allow him to penetrate her, oh goddammit, what a mistake...  She could get pregnant that way; and with such a superannuated crying baby in the house, her every natural instinct is repulsed by the prospect of growing the spawn thereof inside her body!  Ick.  I need a bath, on her behalf.

No heirs for him!



Irony Day, Part II:  Now more more ironical!

This is not some kind of an anti-woman “eww, girls, go away” rant; I dislike those.  Rather, it is an observation that I again find myself in the wrong century.

For a nutshell historical illustration of what I mean, consider that the American Prohibition of alcohol was in large part an attack by women’s clubs on de facto men’s clubs.

Whereas if married women (and today we must consider, single mothers) are ordinarily present in pubs, then you cannot reasonably expect to disallow children.  Children come with the women.  It is a part of a package deal; anyone who doesn’t understand that, does not know the first thing about women.  Have cake—no eat, too.  And if non-professional single, childless women go to pubs, then you cannot reasonably expect for them to suddenly stop doing that when they get married and/or have kids.  Life doesn’t work that way.  Eat cake—no have, too.

It seems that what you really want is an exclusive men’s space.

I'm not sure what caused you to go off on a feminist tangent - I love the company of women, especially in pubs after a few drinks. The children in pubs here are usually accompanied by both parents. If fathers or mothers want to go and drink alcohol in a pub,

I must pause to contemplate the confusion of a man whose whole worldview is so deeply premised on unexamined feminist assumptions, that he just accidentally used feminist arguments to accuse me of feminism for my having made what is probably one of the strongest antifeminist statements that this forum has ever seen.  Triggered much by my “exclusionary” suggestion?

Your basic premise is that men and women are equal.  In this particular context (which is distinct from others), I don’t mean that in a sense of value-judgment:  Of course, males and females have equal value for any species that does not desire prompt extinction.  I mean that on a very deep level, you see men and women as basically equivalent, fungible, and interchangeable units.

Women do anything that men do, such as go to pubs.  Men do anything that women do, such as primary childcare—and bringing children to pubs—no doubt together with their equal partners in parenting.  See?  Equal—and you bristle at the suggestion that they aren’t.

You most certainly can (and should) expect people (men and women) who have kids to change their behaviour. They're meant to have grown up and become responsible, not continue to get drunk in bars, but now with a child in tow.

No, people do not suddenly “change their behaviour” and “become responsible” when they have children.  That is the type of modern fantasy indulged by people who want to rationalize irresponsible behaviour—as indeed you are doing right here.  And it is childish thinking on the level of, “Now that I have reached my X birthday (or other milestone), I am ‘grown up’!”

If a woman habitually engages in behaviour incompatible with wise motherhood before she has kids, that will not change when she has kids.  She is still the same person.  She still wants the same things, which she is accustomed to enjoy.  It is unreasonable to expect otherwise.

Contra your implication that I advocate irresponsibility, I argue rather the opposite:  Women who behave in a manner consistent with responsible motherhood before they have kids will make responsible mothers.  Those who don’t—won’t.  Have cake, no eat too—eat cake, no have too.

Really.  Whyever would you expect for a woman who habitually gets drunk in bars to become a responsible mother?

(And whyever would I expect for someone who thinks this way to be sufficiently responsible to... oh, never mind.  Something about heirs, no doubt.)


The third logical part of this post was cut for length.  Yes.  Eh, sometime...
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good post as ever. you should write a book. with these brrr events coming it will mean a 15% dip is no worries either, it'll probably be more like 30%, then we hope to reject it with the proverbial rusty pipe. the long term is fine as you say, but we are in for a new-fangled bottom, well below 10k.

Sooo tempted to bet on this statement, but I'm not HM, so no.

Very true that V8 has been quite wrong in the past with the extent of the expression of his certainty - even though this time, his proposition remains a bit more reasonable - even if it is far from as certain as V8 is proclaiming it to be...

It's like asserting that we must go down before we can go up, which we have witnessed those kinds of statements to come out wrong from time to time.


Observing $10717.
People rooting for big drops, should really stop shorting BTC in a bull market ... on second thoughts - short harder, time we went up. Cool

Of course, many of us likely realize that sometimes consolidation takes a while to play out in order that some of the whales will become more incentivized to push the BTC price contrary to the expected direction.. .so surely the stacking of shorts or bets on down can provide such UPpity fuel.  

Surely brave soul gamblers do sometimes tend to make relatively BIG bets on DOWNity without adequately pee paring their lil selfies for UPpity, too.  

I won't deny feeling some rejoice when some of those DOWNity-lopsided betters** get recked a wee bit, either in full or in part.   Wink  Can cause some tingilies.  



**Actually, I will note that it seems to me that the vast majority of regular OG WO participants, whether we are referring to V8 or anyone else, have likely learned various basic principles of pee paring their lil selfies for either BTC price direction, even if they might sometimes express quite a bit of certainty in their price prediction statements (whether referring to DOWNity or UPpity) - many times seemingly overly-exuberant WO regulars are NOT overly betting in the direction of their statements.. at least in these here parts, regarding the WO regulars.


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As an amusing thought experiment, imagine that Bitcoin is successful and
becomes the dominant payment system in use throughout the world.  Then the
total value of the currency should be equal to the total value of all
the wealth in the world. Current estimates of total worldwide household
wealth that I have found range from $100 trillion to $300 trillion. With
20 million coins, that gives each coin a value of about $10 million.
https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10152.html

Don't rule out any pricing option, look what they were talking about in 2009.

Important clause highlighted.  He obviously wasn’t looking into a crystal ball and predicting that.

This is why influential people sometimes become wary of any type of “what if?”, thinking-aloud types of brainstorming in public.
I do not mean a prediction from Hal, from the crystal ball, the "experiment" was in the testing phase but HF already anticipated that with a limited supply if BTC was successful the price would increase exponentially, he made a quick calculation.

Almost 11 years later with 7.8 billion people in the world, we continue with a high percentage of the population who have no idea about BTC, nor do they know what Bitcoin is, by the time (adoption) BTC reaches the consumer, all the BTC already It will be in the hands of institutions, Hodlers. very rich people, banks, exchanges, whales, miners, (not counting the lost BTC) members of WO Wink, then it will be when the satoshis enter the market, because few people will be able to pay the full price of 1BTC in 10 or 15 years.

<...>

Just to update Hal's Computation with new Numbers:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-wealth-in-one-visualization/

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In 2019, total world wealth grew by $9.1 trillion to $360.6 trillion, which amounts to a 2.6% increase over the previous year.

So updating the computation, 360 trillion divided by 20 million gives 18 millions.

1BTC=1BTC= 18,000,000 USD

My body is ready.

In order to show the MAGNITUDE... and relative magnitude of the situation, shouldn't we be showing the actual image that you linked above, el señor fillippone?

Even though the image is from 2019, it is still a kind of holy fucking shit image, so heres WEs goes:








1BTC=1BTC= 18,000,000 USD

My body is ready.


Notes on concepts and methods Net worth, or “wealth,” is defined as the value of financial assets plus real assets (principally housing) owned by households, minus their debts. This corresponds to the balance sheet that a household might draw up, listing the items which are owned, and their net value if sold. Private pension fund assets are included, but not entitlements to state pensions. Human capital is excluded altogether, along with assets and debts owned by the state (which cannot easily be assigned to individuals).

it's just household wealth. pointless. better start working out that body. Hal is Great, but not our God


Who woulda thunk?

V8 screwing up the upcoming potential party with actual fact details rather than MAGNAnimous pic/memes.   Cry Cry Cry

Go figure.... ?
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actual facts

wut? this is the WO thread?

oh wait
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What is Dai? why do I suddenly have some?

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