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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4382615 times)
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April 22, 2013, 05:49:55 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.
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April 22, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.

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April 22, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.



Really?, have you spent time observing? - I don't think it's bad, but, it is the way it is, full stop.

K.
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April 22, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.



Really?, have you spent time observing? - I don't think it's bad, but, it is the way it is, full stop.

K.

Well Kruncha you are not helping, I am sorry but none of your answers made any sense or any point
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April 22, 2013, 06:41:12 PM
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Would it be possible to get the current round duration on the account page?
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April 22, 2013, 06:43:27 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.



I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.



Really?, have you spent time observing? - I don't think it's bad, but, it is the way it is, full stop.

K.

Well Kruncha you are not helping, I am sorry but none of your answers made any sense or any point

Look , I'm not here to argue, I love this site. The score system works as I have observed it to work, ask Slush, he'll tell you.

K.
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April 22, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

Worker accaunt...

Hi Lucko, you saying that I can just start all my 3 workers under the same worker name?
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April 22, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.



I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.



Really?, have you spent time observing? - I don't think it's bad, but, it is the way it is, full stop.

K.

Well Kruncha you are not helping, I am sorry but none of your answers made any sense or any point

Look , I'm not here to argue, I love this site. The score system works as I have observed it to work, ask Slush, he'll tell you.

K.

Olga, Kruncha - take it offline please...

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April 22, 2013, 06:56:01 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.

Worker accaunt...

Hi Lucko, you saying that I can just start all my 3 workers under the same worker name?


I do and I had no problems... Well But I'm running with 2 account. One per computer... And using cgminer(better hashes) for GPU and GUIminer for CPU... But then you don't have such good control over the workers... If you see low hashes on page you need to look at computer to see if there is a problem...

And yes I noted that if a slow miner on his own worker send one share after more then 30 minutes all workers scores for all workers are reset to 0... And if that happens at the end of the round it is really bad...  You could get almost noting because of that... I can understand resetting the worker in question bat all. I don't get that...

EDIT: cgminer takes all GPUs and run them on one worker not the same as GUI that you need worker per GPU and CPU...
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April 22, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
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So what you are saying is - it is better to have 1 fast worker then fast worker and a slow worker? Hmm... maybe that explains how my return varies from block to block for up to 30% even though I do not turn off my workers and their speed doesn't change. Under current algorithm it seem to be better to assign slower workers to some PPS pool   Huh

Or assign your worker to the same account...

K.

Not sure what you mean. I have 3 workers on the same account.



I thought it was made clear that the latest hashes/shares submittled had the highest score? it says it on his website (migration control if i'm not mistaken).

K.

right, but do slower workers really affect the fastest one by bad luck??? I did not see confirmation for that.

I was under the impression that each worker's contribution is computed independently and they added up to total w/o affecting each other.



Really?, have you spent time observing? - I don't think it's bad, but, it is the way it is, full stop.

K.

Well Kruncha you are not helping, I am sorry but none of your answers made any sense or any point

Look , I'm not here to argue, I love this site. The score system works as I have observed it to work, ask Slush, he'll tell you.

K.

Olga, Kruncha - take it offline please...


If that's your answer, why bother posting?

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April 22, 2013, 07:05:03 PM
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I've noticed a lot of harsh behavior against new users, is bitcoin not about the distribution of new wealth, or is it just a lie?

K.
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April 22, 2013, 07:26:52 PM
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Hi Lucko, you saying that I can just start all my 3 workers under the same worker name?


I do and I had no problems... Well But I'm running with 2 account. One per computer... And using cgminer(better hashes) for GPU and GUIminer for CPU... But then you don't have such good control over the workers... If you see low hashes on page you need to look at computer to see if there is a problem...

And yes I noted that if a slow miner on his own worker send one share after more then 30 minutes all workers scores for all workers are reset to 0... And if that happens at the end of the round it is really bad...  You could get almost noting because of that... I can understand resetting the worker in question bat all. I don't get that...

EDIT: cgminer takes all GPUs and run them on one worker not the same as GUI that you need worker per GPU and CPU...

Thanks Lucko, I will try that Smiley

Currently I have 3 workers assigned to worker_1, worker_2 and worker_3, none of them goes to sleep for 30 minutes normally, sometimes they just go offline while I am away and cannot attend them but it is really rare, not even once a day.

The speed ratio for workers is like this (in 1 minute approximately)

worker_1: 10 shares  (~ 600 MHash)
worker_2: 1 share     (~ 60 MHash)
worker_3: 3 shares    (~180 MHash)

I will try to play with arrangements, see if one worker results in more stable outcome of the block.

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April 22, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
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no support needed but if the irc is also a meeting place for slushes army of miners to well converse i may lurk Sad i like communitythings
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April 22, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
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Hi Lucko, you saying that I can just start all my 3 workers under the same worker name?


I do and I had no problems... Well But I'm running with 2 account. One per computer... And using cgminer(better hashes) for GPU and GUIminer for CPU... But then you don't have such good control over the workers... If you see low hashes on page you need to look at computer to see if there is a problem...

And yes I noted that if a slow miner on his own worker send one share after more then 30 minutes all workers scores for all workers are reset to 0... And if that happens at the end of the round it is really bad...  You could get almost noting because of that... I can understand resetting the worker in question bat all. I don't get that...

EDIT: cgminer takes all GPUs and run them on one worker not the same as GUI that you need worker per GPU and CPU...

Thanks Lucko, I will try that Smiley

Currently I have 3 workers assigned to worker_1, worker_2 and worker_3, none of them goes to sleep for 30 minutes normally, sometimes they just go offline while I am away and cannot attend them but it is really rare, not even once a day.

The speed ratio for workers is like this (in 1 minute approximately)

worker_1: 10 shares  (~ 600 MHash)
worker_2: 1 share     (~ 60 MHash)
worker_3: 3 shares    (~180 MHash)

I will try to play with arrangements, see if one worker results in more stable outcome of the block.



All miners are fast enough so you shouldn't have my problems but 1 is slow enough to get big differences that in time evens out... I had one 1,2 MHash... That was slow... Sometimes it took hours...
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April 23, 2013, 06:28:54 AM
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Anybody else notice that the stale rate has dropped very low

worker 1 9209 shares accepted 9 stale
worker 2 9107 accepted 21 stale
worker 3 10840 accepted 26 stale.

this is great!
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April 23, 2013, 09:10:55 AM
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AFAIK, it's been low for quite a while. I get about 0.5-1.0% stale. Your stale rate seems actually a little higher to me.
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April 23, 2013, 10:36:50 AM
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Is the pool down?

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April 23, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
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The past week I can't stay connected. cgminer is not switching to backup pools either, its all rejected shares the first time. Today it crashed cgminer on all 11 of my pc's. It just showed the program stopped responding message. I just gone done redirecting them to slush's pool a couple hours ago to see if things were working again. Guess not.. I was very impressed before, I had no issues since switching to stratum except for the past 10 days or so.
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April 23, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
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The past week I can't stay connected. cgminer is not switching to backup pools either, its all rejected shares the first time. Today it crashed cgminer on all 11 of my pc's. It just showed the program stopped responding message. I just gone done redirecting them to slush's pool a couple hours ago to see if things were working again. Guess not.. I was very impressed before, I had no issues since switching to stratum except for the past 10 days or so.

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April 23, 2013, 03:06:38 PM
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(Out of the newbie area at last!)

When Slush's pool was DDoS'ed I signed to BitMinter as backup. I noticed that the rate of namecoin mining there is about 10 times faster, which tempted me to continue mining there (not that it's a really good excuse, but psychologically it feels I'm getting more "stuff").

Anyone can explain why BitMinter can mine so much more namecoins?
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