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August 27, 2018, 04:12:47 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry
It would really be easy if you check this post again. I will check back this reply again and if I find a reply once again from you, I will merit you. Let's see how much active you are actually.
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August 27, 2018, 04:22:23 PM
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Regarding demerit, I really think it would be abused to "punish" people you disagree with, rather than punishing low quality posts. I can't even imagine the drama it would create on the forums with tears and hurt feelings.

Yes.  Some members advocate for demerits, but it really seems an unnecessary and petty kind of practice, and there seems to be other ways to punish bad posts/posters by 1) not giving merits, 2) substantively responding to the posts, 3) use the trust system 4) report the member (perhaps banning or suspension might be applied if egregious)

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August 27, 2018, 04:27:26 PM
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In this life everyone must do the best for themselves, as well as on Meta, even though I don't get a little bit of merit but I don't try to do the best and the best.
The merit rules are good for judging that professionals in the posts hopefully this can last forever.
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August 27, 2018, 04:29:29 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry
It would really be easy if you check this post again. I will check back this reply again and if I find a reply once again from you, I will merit you. Let's see how much active you are actually.

im active now here since last week i want to have a high rank here and also to learn everything about crypto because i think this will become popular in the near future, well if you gave me a merit then it i would appreciate it so much to have my very first merit. Smiley
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August 27, 2018, 04:35:07 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry

Actually nowadays it is more difficult to obtain merit and in my opinion this is due to several reasons:
- the merit airdrop is over, or is ending and people do not have any more merit, so they can't +merit even if a message deserves to be rewarded;
- the sources seem less and less active, as the number of sources increases, the number of merit decreases, it should be the opposite;
- some people do not read messages from random people but only from "most popular people";
- some people do not use the merits received but know they keep them in the grave.

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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry

Actually nowadays it is more difficult to obtain merit and in my opinion this is due to several reasons:
- the merit airdrop is over, or is ending and people do not have any more merit, so they can't +merit even if a message deserves to be rewarded;
- the sources seem less and less active, as the number of sources increases, the number of merit decreases, it should be the opposite;
- some people do not read messages from random people but only from "most popular people";
- some people do not use the merits received but know they keep them in the grave.

the last part made me laugh Cheesy like what i experienced here lately, i want to give someone merit because of his post that helped me a lot and someone that inspire me more to pursue crypto but i dont have any merit. I guess they should have more merit sources, the ones who were always active and appreciate people, not only those famous ones.
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August 27, 2018, 05:47:26 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry
years before, having a good rank is by increasing your activity and posts, and it takes time but now we need merits. merits help this forum to implement its rules, merit system divides the good poster and not so good poster. if you have a good posts, constructive posts, on the topic post then you will get it. yes it is hard, i am agree with that , yes it is maybe difficult at first but if we continue to extend our capabilities to improve our posts then I think someday somehow we will be having that merit, and having a constructive sentence can open our new way to write.
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August 27, 2018, 06:44:14 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry

It is only merit man. Human body and mind combined can do a lot of things way beyond getting merits if you do the right thing. Do not look at the past like that because you will find more and more regret. Move on and embrace the future. Do what Ddmr's suggestions.

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Yes.  Some members advocate for demerits, but it really seems an unnecessary and petty kind of practice, and there seems to be other ways to punish bad posts/posters by 1) not giving merits, 2) substantively responding to the posts, 3) use the trust system 4) report the member (perhaps banning or suspension might be applied if egregious)

Yeah i dont know why they are really want some features like demerit. This place will be a battlefield since day 1 demerits introduced, if that ever happens. I agree with JJG, not giving merit is already a punishment for the bad posters. We just need to add some rules to mae the punishment hit even harder, like making a 1-5 merits requirement to be Jr. Member.
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August 27, 2018, 08:04:58 PM
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I support merit system , just now need to work for receive merit , only spam posts already not actual.
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August 27, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
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Yes.  Some members advocate for demerits, but it really seems an unnecessary and petty kind of practice, and there seems to be other ways to punish bad posts/posters by 1) not giving merits, 2) substantively responding to the posts, 3) use the trust system 4) report the member (perhaps banning or suspension might be applied if egregious)

Yeah i dont know why they are really want some features like demerit. This place will be a battlefield since day 1 demerits introduced, if that ever happens. I agree with JJG, not giving merit is already a punishment for the bad posters. We just need to add some rules to mae the punishment hit even harder, like making a 1-5 merits requirement to be Jr. Member.

Likely after a bit more than 6 months of implementation, active members are kind of getting a hang for how this new merit system is playing into other forum systems such as activity level and quality of posts, and sure theymos had even mentioned the possibility of getting rid of the trust system or causing the forum's trust system to play less importance.  

IT seems likely that in the early stages of the merit system, some forum members made mistakes with the use of their merits or were a bit unclear about how to earn merits.. what kind of posting or where to post in order to increase the likelihood to earn merits.

Surely, I agree with any complaint or concern from newer members that the momentum of having merits increases a members ability to earn merits, but that is also kind of the way of the world, and many systems advantage folks who are either early contributors or if they earned value under earlier standards.. and when the rules change, sometimes there can be discrepancies based on the earlier rewarding of value.

I believe that if any member is active in the forum and wants to earn merits, and that member explores various areas of the forum that are of interest of that member, the member will figure out ways to earn merits - perhaps not earning merit as quickly as the assumptions of the system, such as averaging the earning of 1 merit per day, but even earning a few merits per week is going to allow for some decent and meaningful progress in ranking up with the passage of time.

I doubt that demerits would cause progress towards increasing substantive and meaningful forum postings, contributions and participation.

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August 28, 2018, 01:45:07 AM
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I support merit system , just now need to work for receive merit , only spam posts already not actual.
Merit must be of support.Because the Merit system makes everyone Efficient.

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August 28, 2018, 04:50:44 AM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry

Actually nowadays it is more difficult to obtain merit and in my opinion this is due to several reasons:
- the merit airdrop is over, or is ending and people do not have any more merit, so they can't +merit even if a message deserves to be rewarded;
- the sources seem less and less active, as the number of sources increases, the number of merit decreases, it should be the opposite;
- some people do not read messages from random people but only from "most popular people";
- some people do not use the merits received but know they keep them in the grave.

the last part made me laugh Cheesy like what i experienced here lately, i want to give someone merit because of his post that helped me a lot and someone that inspire me more to pursue crypto but i dont have any merit. I guess they should have more merit sources, the ones who were always active and appreciate people, not only those famous ones.

thanks for my first ever merit  Shocked Smiley
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August 28, 2018, 05:18:47 AM
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Likely after a bit more than 6 months of implementation, active members are kind of getting a hang for how this new merit system is playing into other forum systems such as activity level and quality of posts, and sure theymos had even mentioned the possibility of getting rid of the trust system or causing the forum's trust system to play less importance.  

I saw Theymos wants to change the trust system, not completely remove it, but i forgot the link to his post.

IT seems likely that in the early stages of the merit system, some forum members made mistakes with the use of their merits or were a bit unclear about how to earn merits.. what kind of posting or where to post in order to increase the likelihood to earn merits.

Surely, I agree with any complaint or concern from newer members that the momentum of having merits increases a members ability to earn merits, but that is also kind of the way of the world, and many systems advantage folks who are either early contributors or if they earned value under earlier standards.. and when the rules change, sometimes there can be discrepancies based on the earlier rewarding of value.

Yeah, it is kind of the way of the world. They just can not go on meta rampaging about how this is unfair and want an equality, it does not work that way.

I believe that if any member is active in the forum and wants to earn merits, and that member explores various areas of the forum that are of interest of that member, the member will figure out ways to earn merits - perhaps not earning merit as quickly as the assumptions of the system, such as averaging the earning of 1 merit per day, but even earning a few merits per week is going to allow for some decent and meaningful progress in ranking up with the passage of time.

I doubt that demerits would cause progress towards increasing substantive and meaningful forum postings, contributions and participation.

I guess so too. We can also add some punishment fro a really low quality post by clicking that report to moderator button.
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August 28, 2018, 09:35:51 AM
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Merit system is a very good system. Now it's hard to achieve Merit.Because of which the disqualification does not up their rank.The reason for this is decreasing the amount of spamming has increased user experience.

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August 28, 2018, 12:54:08 PM
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Merit system is a very good system. Now it's hard to achieve Merit.Because of which the disqualification does not up their rank.The reason for this is decreasing the amount of spamming has increased user experience.

I completely agree with you, the merit system cleared the forum of spam and bots.  Long live the great system of merit  Wink
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August 28, 2018, 01:07:34 PM
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Merit system is a very good system. Now it's hard to achieve Merit.Because of which the disqualification does not up their rank.The reason for this is decreasing the amount of spamming has increased user experience.

I completely agree with you, the merit system cleared the forum of spam and bots.  Long live the great system of merit  Wink
I disagree with what you said. The merit system didn't cleared the bots and spams here in the forum. Lessen will be a better word to use I think. Even the merit system is implemented, spam and bots are still there.

Long live the great system of merit  Wink
Is the merit system the new KING already  Cheesy

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August 28, 2018, 01:38:45 PM
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Merit system is a very good system. Now it's hard to achieve Merit.Because of which the disqualification does not up their rank.The reason for this is decreasing the amount of spamming has increased user experience.

I completely agree with you, the merit system cleared the forum of spam and bots.  Long live the great system of merit  Wink
I disagree with what you said. The merit system didn't cleared the bots and spams here in the forum. Lessen will be a better word to use I think. Even the merit system is implemented, spam and bots are still there.

Long live the great system of merit  Wink
Is the merit system the new KING already  Cheesy

I guess it's a slight improvement since people are trying to make more quality posts because of that. (ironic since i have 0 lol)

The bots etc are still here and will continue to post as it's really difficult to discourage that, the good thing is it's easier to tell between bots and actual posters since the attitude must've changed a bit.
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August 28, 2018, 03:41:59 PM
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its really hard to earn merits now, how i wish a was active here from the moment i joined.  Cry
its really hard to get the merits now but it is hard not impossible to do
The forum offers such rules to increase the quality of each article and that is good for us
I daily still try to find out, actively interact with other posts to earn merit first and hope to be up rank soon
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Merited by d5000 (1), DdmrDdmr (1), Kvanko (1)
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Long time for this kind of update, keep in mind we can assune right now 80% of merit is given from merit source and 80% of merit source has the rank legendary, so the majority of the merit from the higher ranks is from sources!
For a perfect graph we need to remove sources.
I've removed data for admin, founder, mods, Vip and brand new since they have less than 0.0xxx % circulation of total merit.
Datas are from DdmrDdmr datas.


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August 28, 2018, 07:53:12 PM
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It's interesting to see that users tend to favour users with a similar rank when they give out Merits. It seems defintively there's a kind of "division" between higher-ranked and lower-ranked users.

You said that merit sources are mostly Legendary Members, but then they give out most merits to Legendaries too. This may be related to the fact that some Legendaries are among the top quality posters, regularly earning big amounts of merits (e.g. with guides or posts about technical topics).

Interesting that Heros seem a bit more "egalitarian" than Legendaries, while lower ranked members prefer to give merits to other lower-ranked members.

The preference of lower-ranked members for other lower-ranked users may be related to the fact that many of them live mostly in the altcoin forums where merit sources and higher-ranked members are relatively scarce. But I'm only speculating.

My conclusion: Higher-ranked members who like the Merit system, should think about giving more merits to lower-ranked users to combat this "division". Maybe there is influence of some inconscient "group mentality"; that's counterproductive, I think.

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