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March 13, 2019, 01:35:42 AM
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The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN and I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.

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March 13, 2019, 01:37:33 AM
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The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN and I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.
If all you want is to make a cool ANN with images, you can always buy the Copper Member upgrade, which enables images and other small Member-like perks for you.

Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

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March 13, 2019, 03:14:08 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
For example:
Code:
[img width=x height=y]hyperlink to image[/img]
using x for desired width of your image, whilst using y for height of your image.
And you can use boths options (width, height) or only one of them.

The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN
After the activation of merit system more than one years ago, 30 activity count does  not help you to display images, because you need to get at least 1 merit to become Junior member, that have rights to display images.
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I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.
As proposed by others, the best option for you is buying a Copper Member, it is not too expensive, I think.
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March 13, 2019, 03:31:32 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
For example:
Code:
[img width=x height=y]hyperlink to image[/img]
using x for desired width of your image, whilst using y for height of your image.
And you can use boths options (width, height) or only one of them.


I like to use images to make substantive points.  When I was a newbie, I did not know how to post images, probably for a year or more of my forum membership.

In the past couple of years, on average, I probably post an image in one in  every 10 posts, and width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:


1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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March 13, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
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width=200 or 300 is enough to display images, if those images don't contains words/ contents inside.
width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:
Adjusted your image with width=100. For the emotional icon, I though width=100 is a decent size.  Tongue
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Or width=50, it should be smaller than your avatar.  Tongue
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March 13, 2019, 04:30:52 AM
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width=200 or 300 is enough to display images, if those images don't contains words/ contents inside.
width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:
Adjusted your image with width=100. For the emotional icon, I though width=100 is a decent size.  Tongue
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Or width=50, it should be smaller than your avatar.  Tongue
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Exactamente!!!  These kinds of image sizes are discretionary choices, and of course, like you mentioned, if there are details within the image, such as text, that you want to be more easily visible, then you may need to make your image(s) larger, and perhaps if you are requoting another poster's image, you could either completely eliminate the image or make it very small, depending on how much of a topic that image might be in your subsequent discussion.

These points are important, not because there is any exact objective standard, but instead, in the context of merit, if you want to earn merit (which is the subject matter of this thread), then you have much better chances if you are attempting to engage with the subject matter, and connecting with some readers of your post that may be willing and able to send you merit.

To your point, thd26bct, if readers find the member annoying because s/he post images that are not substantively relevant to the thread or the current discussion points or the wrong size or even off topic, then the member might neither earn merit(s), but some members might begin to conclude that such member is a non-contributing shit poster.

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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March 13, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
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Sorry for late update this week, I am a little bit lazy.
Abstract for the last week
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March 13, 2019, 03:41:06 PM
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How about if the post merited is deleted? Will the merit count? Or erased too? Because somebody could just use merit for unreasonable purpose.

The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

Does that mean all merit sources are hand selected?

Right. There are about 35 right now.



Hi theymos,

Could you consider posting a guide to how the Merit system works and the proper use of it in the HELP section along with a few informative links.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help

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March 14, 2019, 12:19:43 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
[...]
After the activation of merit system more than one years ago, 30 activity count does  not help you to display images, because you need to get at least 1 merit to become Junior member, that have rights to display images.


Hi,
thanks to you and the others for your help. Regarding not overusing images and scaling them properly I couldn't agree more. I'll make sure this will be done properly.

Regarding the 1 merit I'll need and the alternative to pay the fee, I've heard from it but dislike the idea to pay for the option to post here. There's no urgency and maybe eventually someone will be super nice and give me the merit. We've now waited for about a year since the project started, and having the ANN post is rather one thing on my list I always wanted to get done than an essential, urgent issue.

So I'll just hang around here from time to time, maybe better anyway to wait for a little better sentiment before going ahead and posting the ANN anyway.

Thanks again, and keep up the good work guys Wink

Cheers,
bantano
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March 15, 2019, 01:42:54 AM
Last edit: March 15, 2019, 01:53:42 AM by tranthidung
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can someone explain to me how to increase activity
Wait a minute, I will give you links.
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit (Pinned topic).
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1 X 14 = 14
2 X 14 = 28
3 X 14 = 42  ---  Junior. Member (1.5 month)
4 X 14 = 56
5 X 14 = 70  ---  Member (2.5 month)
6 X 14 = 84
7 X 14 = 98
8 X 14 = 112
9 X 14 = 126  --- Full Member (4.5 month)
10 X 14 = 140
11 X 14 = 154
12 X 14 = 168
13 X 14 = 182
14 X 14 = 196
15 X 14 = 210
16 X 14 = 224
17 X 14 = 238
18 X 14 = 252 --- Senior Member (8.5 month)
19 X 14 = 266
20 X 14 = 280
21 X 14 = 294
22 X 14 = 308
23 X 14 = 322
24 X 14 = 336
25 X 14 = 350
26 X 14 = 364
27 X 14 = 378
28 X 14 = 392
29 X 14 = 406
30 X 14 = 420
31 X 14 = 434
32 X 14 = 448
33 X 14 = 462
34 X 14 = 476
35 X 14 = 490  ----  Hero Member (1.3 years)
36 X 14 = 504
37 X 14 = 518
38 X 14 = 532
39 X 14 = 546
40 X 14 = 560
41 X 14 = 574
42 X 14 = 588
43 X 14 = 602
44 X 14 = 616
45 X 14 = 630
46 X 14 = 644
47 X 14 = 658
48 X 14 = 672
49 X 14 = 686
50 X 14 = 700
51 X 14 = 714
52 X 14 = 728
53 X 14 = 742
54 X 14 = 756
55 X 14 = 770
56 X 14 = 784  --- Legendary rank (2 years)
Required period to get activity points
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
Besides activity points, for ranks from Junior Member and above, you will need another point, merit points.
There is a topic on Merit $ new rank requirements
In short:
RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member301
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

Let's take my case as an example.
With old rank requirements, I could reach the Senior Member rank after 8.5 months, if I made enough posts for each 14-day period, and satisfied postcount of Senior Member rank.
Unfortunately, with the new rank requirements, it has actually taken me around one year and a half (double the minimum time required with old rank requirements) to hit the finish line.
Eventually, I hit the line yesterday.
Keep learning, and grow up, noob.

I gave you some important topics.
1) [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) (Very important topic, in which you can find almost everything you need)
2) Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users (Read, and learn from those stories)
3) [CLUBS] Top Merited-Users Classified into 4 Clubs (Learn from those top merit-receivers and their merited-posts/ topics)

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March 15, 2019, 10:41:23 PM
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What a huge increment this week, +19%
do we got
new merit sources
more smerit for source
or more active sources?

(or more sellers or others random active users)




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March 17, 2019, 10:09:33 AM
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What a huge increment this week, +19%
do we got
new merit sources
more smerit for source
or more active sources?
(or more sellers or others random active users) <…>
The “where” of the incremented merit distribution can be seen here:


As we can see above, for the last 2 complete weeks (weeks 9 and 10), the 19,25% (858) sMerit increment vs previous week comes from:

-   Bitcoin boards shot-up from 538 sMerits to 1.008 sMerits (specifically, Development & Technical Discussion rose from 184 to 419).

-   Economy deceased overall from 1425 to 1272 sMerits.

-   Others rose from 909 to 1256 sMerits, with more concentration on Beginners and Help (141->271), Meta (636-> 804) and Politics & Society (44-> 131 sMerits).

Now if we look at specific threads we see threads such as (between 04/03/2019 and 10/03/2019):
[-1 Merit source in RU local] Alex_Sr merit source application UP! -> 100 sMerits
[Polish section] Merit source application  -> 77 sMerits

Confidential Transactions, Content privacy for Bitcoin transactions -> 39 sMerits
The Lightning Network FAQ -> 38 sMerits
Breaking Mixing Services -> 31 sMerits (has received many more this partial week).

There are 23 threads in the Development & Technical Discussion board between the 04/03/2019 and 10/03/2019 that have received at least 5 sMerits. A complete relation can be seen by going to the Merit Dashboard, selecting the “Rankings” Tab near the end, delimiting the date slider to 04/03/2019 00:00:00 and 10/03/2019 23:59:59 and setting the subsection to “Development & Technical Discussion”.

Aside from that, Merit Sources and allocation seems to be the same as previous weeks. On the other hand, the last big Merit Sources reallocation too place on the 5th of January 2019 if I recall correctly. That would mean that around the 5th of each month (roughly), many Merit Source allowances start to be replenished, therefore having more available system wide (nevertheless, that effect did not occur a month ago …).
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March 19, 2019, 08:28:30 AM
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No can do. What you can do is aquire a Copper Membership, which is pretty cheap considering what any ICO expects to rise.
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March 19, 2019, 08:31:54 AM
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It is one of the worst thing you can do to fastly get red trust.
we started a new currency and our official account could need 1 merrit to be able to post pics soon. Maybe somebody here will be kind enough to support  Smiley
Instead of begging for merits, you should spend small amount of BTC or Grin coin to buy a Copper Membership.
There is link for you to get more details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

Even someone send you 1 sMerit, you will have to wait to get enough 30 activity count to be able to post images.
It will take you around 1.5 months to get the Junior Member rank in case you post at least 30 posts during 1.5 months.
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Here is a table of the activity periods and time it will take you to achieve each rank:
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1 X 14 = 14
2 X 14 = 28
3 X 14 = 42  ---  Junior. Member (1.5 month)
4 X 14 = 56
5 X 14 = 70  ---  Member (2.5 month)
6 X 14 = 84
7 X 14 = 98
8 X 14 = 112
9 X 14 = 126  --- Full Member (4.5 month)
10 X 14 = 140
11 X 14 = 154
12 X 14 = 168
13 X 14 = 182
14 X 14 = 196
15 X 14 = 210
16 X 14 = 224
17 X 14 = 238
18 X 14 = 252 --- Senior Member (8.5 month)
19 X 14 = 266
20 X 14 = 280
21 X 14 = 294
22 X 14 = 308
23 X 14 = 322
24 X 14 = 336
25 X 14 = 350
26 X 14 = 364
27 X 14 = 378
28 X 14 = 392
29 X 14 = 406
30 X 14 = 420
31 X 14 = 434
32 X 14 = 448
33 X 14 = 462
34 X 14 = 476
35 X 14 = 490  ----  Hero Member (1.3 years)
36 X 14 = 504
37 X 14 = 518
38 X 14 = 532
39 X 14 = 546
40 X 14 = 560
41 X 14 = 574
42 X 14 = 588
43 X 14 = 602
44 X 14 = 616
45 X 14 = 630
46 X 14 = 644
47 X 14 = 658
48 X 14 = 672
49 X 14 = 686
50 X 14 = 700
51 X 14 = 714
52 X 14 = 728
53 X 14 = 742
54 X 14 = 756
55 X 14 = 770
56 X 14 = 784  --- Legendary rank (2 years)
Buying a Copper Membership is a faster option, and it is also cheap enough to take into consideration.
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March 19, 2019, 08:37:59 AM
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Hello guys,

we started a new currency and our official account could need 1 merrit to be able to post pics soon. Maybe somebody here will be kind enough to support  Smiley
Begging is usually not seen with good eyes here.

You can always buy the Copper Member upgrade to enable images. I guess if your project is serious, you won’t mind soending a few bucks on it, right?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.msg24371150#msg24371150

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March 19, 2019, 01:22:34 PM
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I forgot to give you last week abstract on merit analyses.
Time series plots:
Intra-day merits:
Intra-week merits:
Meris over days of week (outliers displayed with red circles):

And the abstract is available there
Intra-day merits:
Notes:
- The part of the asbstract describes figures of intraday merits over the period from 19/2/2018 to 11/3/2019 (truncated dataset);
- Days from 24/1/2018 to 18/2/2018 truncated due to highly potential outliers; and days after 11/3/2019 truncated as well due to incomplete week (the eleventh week of 2019, 2019w11);
- Statistics presented in the post are for truncated dataset.

(1) Potential outliers are days that have intraday total merits beyond 157 or 1129;
(2) Median of intraday merits over the period is 623;
(3) 50% of observed days have their intra-day merits range from 521 to 746 (the interquartile range);
(4) Friday [in GTM time] is the day over weeks has lowest intraday merits in terms of both median and mean, at 554, and 614, respectively.
(5) Monday [in GMT time] is the day over weeks has highest intraday merits in terms of both median and mean, at 666, and 742, respectively.
(6) There are 24 potential outliers in total, and there is only one potential outlier day happened in early weeks of 2019, on 09 Jan. 2019, at 1161.
(7) Minimum and maximum of intraday merits (full dataset) are 312 and 13018, on 11/2/2019 and 24/1/2018 respectively.


Intra-week merits:
Notes:
The part of the abstract use full dataset, only dropped last two days due to incomple week (2019w10).

(1)   The median of intra-week merits is 4507;
(2)   50% of observed weeks (59 weeeks in total), have total merits in the range from 3818 to 5487 (the interquaritle range of intra-week merits);
(3)   Minimum and maximum of intraweek merits are 3065 and 30949, in 2018w35, and 2018w4, respectively;
(4)   Six potential outliers [beyond 1055 or 8375], all of them occurred in the year 2018.

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Last edit: March 25, 2019, 02:35:09 PM by tranthidung
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Update for last week:

Time series plots

Intra-day merits:
(1) Full dataset

(2) Truncated dataset

Quick statistics:
- 50% of observed days (393, some days truncated due to outliers) have intra-day merits ranges from 521 to 761 (the interquartile range, from p25 to p75).
- 50% of those days have intra-day merits above 623, and the rest 50% of days have intra-day merits below 523 (the median).

Code:
. tabstat merit, s(n mean sd p50 p25 p75 min max) format(%9.1f)

    variable |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       merit |     393.0     678.1     247.5     623.0     521.0     761.0     312.0    2463.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Intra-week merits:

Quick statistics:
- 50% of 60 observed weeks have intra-week merits ranges from 3836 to 5397 (the interquartile range, from p25 to p75).
- 50% of observered weeks have intra-week merits above 4491, whilst the rest 50% of weeks have intra-week merits below 4491 (the median).

Code:
. tabstat merit, s(n mean sd p50 p25 p75 min max)

    variable |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       merit |        60  5707.417  4279.576    4490.5      3836    5396.5      3065     30949
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ABSTRACT


Intra-day merits:
Notes:
- The part of the asbstract describes figures of intraday merits over the period from 19/2/2018 to 18/3/2019 (truncated dataset);
- Days from 24/1/2018 to 18/2/2018 truncated due to highly potential outliers; and days after 18/3/2019 truncated as well due to incomplete week (the 2019w12);
- Statistics presented in the post are for truncated dataset.

(1) Potential outliers are days that have intraday total merits beyond 161 or 1121;
(2) Median of intraday merits over the period is 623;
(3) 50% of observed days have their intra-day merits range from 521 to 761 (the interquartile range);
(4) Friday [in GTM time] is the day over weeks has lowest intraday merits in terms of both median and mean, at 561, and 613, respectively.
(5) There are 25 potential outliers in total, and there is only two potential outlier days happened in early weeks of 2019, on 09 Jan. 2019 and 14 Jan. 2019, at 1161, and 1127, respectively.
(6) Minimum and maximum of intraday merits (full dataset) are 312 and 13018, on 11/2/2019 and 24/1/2018 respectively.


Intra-week merits:
Notes:
The part of the abstract use full dataset, only dropped last two days due to incomple week (2019w10).

(1)   The median of intra-week merits is 4491;
(2)   50% of observed weeks (59 weeeks in total), have total merits in the range from 3836 to 5397 (the interquaritle range of intra-week merits);
(3)   Minimum and maximum of intraweek merits are 3065 and 30949, in 2018w35, and 2018w4, respectively;
(4)   Seven potential outliers [beyond 1496 or 7738], all of them occurred in the year 2018.

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March 31, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
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Update for last week:

Time series plots

Intra-day merits:
(1) Full dataset

(2) Truncated dataset

Intra-week merits:

ABSTRACT


Intra-day merits:
Notes:
- The part of the asbstract describes figures of intraday merits over the period from 19/2/2018 to 25/3/2019 (truncated dataset);
- Days from 24/1/2018 to 18/2/2018 truncated due to highly potential outliers; and days after 25/3/2019 truncated as well due to incomplete week (the 2019w13);
- Statistics presented in the post are for truncated dataset

(1) Potential outliers are days that have intraday total merits beyond 164 or 1118;
(2) Median of intraday merits over the period is 626;
(3) 50% of observed days have their intra-day merits range from 521 to 760 (the interquartile range);
(4) Friday [in GTM time] is the day over weeks has lowest intraday merits in terms of both median and mean, at 567, and 614, respectively.
(5) Monday [in GTM time] is the day over weeks has highest intraday merits in terms of both median and mean, at 658, and 738, respectively.
(6) There are 25 potential outliers in total, and there is only two potential outlier days happened in early weeks of 2019, on 09 Jan. 2019 and 14 Jan. 2019, at 1161, and 1127, respectively.
(7) Minimum and maximum of intraday merits (full dataset) are 312 and 13018, on 11/2/2019 and 24/1/2018 respectively.


Intra-week merits:
Notes:
The part of the abstract use full dataset, only dropped last two days due to incomple week (2019w10).

(1)   The median of intra-week merits is 4507;
(2)   50% of observed weeks (61 weeeks in total), have total merits in the range from 3854 to 5306 (the interquaritle range of intra-week merits);
(3)   Minimum and maximum of intraweek merits are 3065 and 30949, in 2018w35, and 2018w4, respectively;
(4)   Seven potential outliers [beyond 1676 or 7484], all of them occurred in the year 2018.

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April 03, 2019, 01:00:28 PM
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That day is the day of changes, on January 24, 2018, 11:00:11 PM
More than one year ago, and changes actually shown.
I like this change a lot. Hopefully we'll see an increase in post quality.
Post quality changed, higher than before merit system come to the forum, but I would like to pinpoint another significant change due to effects from the system.
This is the change in some indicators:
- Total new registered accounts fell dramatically.
- Total post count made each month dropped considerably.
- More and more accounts got permanent bans, or nuked.
Are you just noticing this now, if so you're late to the party, it's no longer a hope, we're already seeing huge change in post quality both by pretenders and quality posters.
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