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May 29, 2013, 08:42:16 AM
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Ok so we seem to be in agreement then that it’s about cryptos generally, not bitcoin. In which case to bring this full circle and as a statement rather than question this time: why would anyone who doesn't fulfill that lucky category of early adopter choose to acquire and use btc as currency. Probably worth some thought, and then what that may mean for the issue of relative inflation of growing numbers of so-called other crypto currencies vs devcoin's.  And speaking of survival strategies, unemployment and crypto adoption, there just so happens to be a coin to assist in addressing that Wink

I pre-apologize for this long post but it is all very relevant to the future of devcoin and it involves the risks and benefits of all who contribute to devcoin, now and in the future.

Amin, weisoq, short term, Devcoin is hitting on all cylinders.  Right time and right place, they're in the hyper growth phase right now so cutting back on printing coins is not possible, nor a good idea, now or in the near term.

We have High global unemployment and devcoin is everywhere offering jobs with real pay.  This is why I said the upward pressure variables will grow exponentially and some logarithmically while the downward pressure factors such as dilution and selling will only grow linearly which will result in large to enormous upward pressures on the devcoin price.

My only issue is that it looks like we're paying third world country contributors first world country shares.  That will wreak havoc on the system in a matter of months.  I hope there's a plan to pay a triple the national average salary (which is generous, i wish i could get triple the national averafe here) in those countries which is generous and will help stem abuse, poor contributions and a mass exodus of educated top notch first world country talent.  

One other thing that happens when you pay a 3rd wold country person a full to 2 years of wages in a single month is that he will undoubtably dump it all on the market cause he's never seen anything like it and knows something that good will never last and word of mouth will spread and the damage will be near instant.  It's like deccoin giving us $50,000-$80,000 worth of real dollar coins for 1 month of programming or working. Who wouldn't sell it all, for many it's life changing money?  That's how it is in 3rd world countries, I know I lived there for many years.

So besides the destruction of total share value a secondary negative effect caused by paying 3rd world countries equal shares will be a sudden and massive implosion of the devcoin price.  Where in America, Germany, etc even $3,000 in a month of wages is not a lot to most and at worst most would only sell a portion and in many cases like mine, since I can pay my bills in other ways, I won't sell any coins.  

So 3rd world country people who desperately need the money would most always dump all their coins which would further drops the price of devcoin. This is the second reason share payouts in 3rd wold countries should be generous but in line with their national average incomes and cost of living there.

I'm seeing devcoin has already gone global so I hope they have a fair and sound business solution for this.  It might sound unfair but these countries also have, for the most part, also 1/10th the cost of living expenses to go with the 1/10th the income of the US, and any person there would feel lucky to sit at home and make 2-3 times the national average instead of digging ditches or weighing tables with a computer science degree.  

Let's keep our compassion in check and do this thing right.  Devcoin is the first real CryptoStock in the world and I'd hate to see poor yet simple decisions destroy this beautiful thing which is, I believe, on the brink of catching global fire and really taking off.  How many remember what a logarithmic graph looks like from high school?  Think Hyperbole!!!!  It's a short lived and rare phenomenon which can make people very rich and I think the situation and factors for devcoin are all near set up but one major miscalculation could prove a huge setback.  

This type of success is truly possible with devcoin and soon, it could start in 3-6 months, but we have to keep good top notch content coming and I suggest unthinkingbit et al putting some system in place to first warn then potentially fire people who don't rightfully earn their coins with good service and or content.  This system is new and like all new systems it's ripe for abuse.

 I realize by saying this I could get myself fired as I'm not a pro writer although I try to do a large variety types of articles since I don't know what works - if short, long, music, politics, green energy, economics, conspiracy theories, or poetry works best, given the vast and diverse US population, so until we get the page counter going I tried to hit on all of the above.  I'm trying to cover the occasional reader up to the millions of college students looking for long research papers - just one of the research papers I wrote was 36 pages and I have no way of knowing if all that labor was worthless and if a few much shorter articles on Michael Jackson and Prince would bring in 10 times as many readers.  

so for all i know i may be one of the ones who deserves to be put on notice or fired but there should be a protocol for this for the sake of all the good and great contributors.  At any rate, Fair Quality control with steps for disciplinary action up to termination has to be put into effect ASAP to stem abuse and what would result in a real and effective theft of shares from everyone else.  

Besides the argument of coin dilution, ad nauseum, this is another major issue that has been on my mind so I hope, like the coin printing issue, devcoin management has some kind of plan in the works.

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You are stressing too much. There's already been a levelling out in global developer salaries (that's why a third of Google engineers come from India!). So I don't think there'll be a rush to develop Devcoin from those countries unless they close down all the Microsoft/Intel/Google etc business parks in Bangalore! It's actually the eastern european developers who are lagging behind in pay and that's mainly because they arn't an English language country like southern India. But once Silicon Valley gets over it's anti-English prejudice and opens business parks in Romania etc, that will change.

The main problem Romania has is the way it is portrayed in the press. If you say Bangalore to people, they instantly think "software". But if you say Romania (a place with similar population to Bangalore), people think "gypsies". It's pure prejudice - and totally wrong. One of the reasons for keeping Devcoin open to all comers at the same wages is that it helps talented people who are shut out of the global market simply because people are prejudiced about their country of origin and won't even look at their skills or talent. Devcoin to change the world!

 
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May 29, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
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Is it my imagination or is void_s_life Ender's Game with names changed and paraphrased. Void is Ender. Jewels is Valentine. Dan is Peter. Flob's are the Buggers. Space Fleet are the Astronaughts. The device is the monitor. Stailson is Stilson. How does devtome protect against this sort of thing generally?


bump can someone check this please? i have not read ender's game so I do not know

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May 29, 2013, 12:07:42 PM
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Welcome!My p2pdvc bond is in cryptostocks.com. Kiss

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May 29, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
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Welcome!My p2pdvc bond is in cryptostocks.com. Kiss

Yup i saw Smiley gtz i bought a LOAD to Smiley

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May 29, 2013, 01:47:40 PM
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Welcome!My p2pdvc bond is in cryptostocks.com. Kiss

Yup i saw Smiley gtz i bought a LOAD to Smiley


I really hope you are joking....

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May 29, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
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Is it my imagination or is void_s_life Ender's Game with names changed and paraphrased. Void is Ender. Jewels is Valentine. Dan is Peter. Flob's are the Buggers. Space Fleet are the Astronaughts. The device is the monitor. Stailson is Stilson. How does devtome protect against this sort of thing generally?



do you have a book to compare to?

I am also interested how we will protect devtome vs such 'attacks'
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May 29, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
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Guys when  writing on  153 page of this very chaos topic I am wondering - what about a separate DevCoin forum? We could just install BB forum and make our own structure - not "all in one" topic
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May 29, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
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Guys when  writing on  153 page of this very chaos topic I am wondering - what about a separate DevCoin forum? We could just install BB forum and make our own structure - not "all in one" topic

I can easily setup a smf forum in 3 hours for devcoin, but seems there's no eager to such kind of things ...

And we could well promote devcoin via this forum since many people here, if a new forum, how we could drive people to that new one?

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May 29, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
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Is a bounty for making a GPT site offering Devcoins?

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May 29, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
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Is it my imagination or is void_s_life Ender's Game with names changed and paraphrased. Void is Ender. Jewels is Valentine. Dan is Peter. Flob's are the Buggers. Space Fleet are the Astronaughts. The device is the monitor. Stailson is Stilson. How does devtome protect against this sort of thing generally?
bump can someone check this please? i have not read ender's game so I do not know

Yeah, it definitely looks like it has been copied from Ender's Game. It's essentially a shortened and paraphrased version of the first two chapters.

Er, sorry for that guys. I want to basically still follow Ender's Game, but I guess I got a little too carried away with staying with the basic plot. Re-writting it, but keeping far away from the plot of Ender's Game. (I didn't mean to make it completely a Ender's Game remake. Sorry guys.)
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May 29, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
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I couldn't agree more on what you say. Smiley

Deadsea33, whom are you referring to?

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May 29, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
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Is it my imagination or is void_s_life Ender's Game with names changed and paraphrased. Void is Ender. Jewels is Valentine. Dan is Peter. Flob's are the Buggers. Space Fleet are the Astronaughts. The device is the monitor. Stailson is Stilson. How does devtome protect against this sort of thing generally?
bump can someone check this please? i have not read ender's game so I do not know

Yeah, it definitely looks like it has been copied from Ender's Game. It's essentially a shortened and paraphrased version of the first two chapters.

Er, sorry for that guys. I want to basically still follow Ender's Game, but I guess I got a little too carried away with staying with the basic plot. Re-writting it, but keeping far away from the plot of Ender's Game. (I didn't mean to make it completely a Ender's Game remake. Sorry guys.)

Yeah but you can't just paraphrase the events, I read it and it's de-ja-vu inducingly similar.
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May 29, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
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Guys when  writing on  153 page of this very chaos topic I am wondering - what about a separate DevCoin forum? We could just install BB forum and make our own structure - not "all in one" topic

I can easily setup a smf forum in 3 hours for devcoin, but seems there's no eager to such kind of things ...

And we could well promote devcoin via this forum since many people here, if a new forum, how we could drive people to that new one?

The reason I don't want a devcoin specific forum is that we would not get more people interested from the rest of the forum.

I want to go to a cryptocoin forum that allows all cryptocoins. There is at least one now, but I don't know which one people prefer. Please post cryptocoin forum recommendations here, if we ever get too many recommendations without an obvious winner we'll make a new thread just for deciding which forum to join.

An extra thing I'd like from the cryptocoin forum is that they are willing to make/install new features for devcoin shares. For example, I would like a couple of features in a forum:

1) To be able to send a message to an email address, and receive email in the forum inbox. In other words, a forum message to unthinkingbit would go to my forum account, and a message to unthinkingbit@gmail.com would go to my gmail account.

2) When an email comes in which is from an address not on my whitelist (which would include contacts and people I've emailed before), the sender would get a message saying they could pay say 30 cents in a cryptocurrency to send an email to me. This would stop spam, and part of the money would go to maintaining the forum.

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May 30, 2013, 01:07:40 AM
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What's happening to the value today? Do you guys have any idea why it's decreasing so much?
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May 30, 2013, 01:15:05 AM
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What's happening to the value today? Do you guys have any idea why it's decreasing so much?

Someone (or a few people) are cashing out.

As DevCoin has become much more popular in the last month and generation share value has decreased substantially people should value their Devcoin's more which should lead to a price rise over the next few months as they will be less willing to sell them for these rock bottom prices.

Also, https://www.cryptospend.net is a new service which allows people to purchase real world goods with crypto - I have sent them an email at cryptospend@gmail.com urging them to support DevCoin and I suggest everyone here does the same!
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May 30, 2013, 02:05:51 AM
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Well now would be the time to stock up so you can spend them on the ad network Cheesy which we are setting up as an offshoot of the devcoin sites.

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May 30, 2013, 02:09:36 AM
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What's happening to the value today? Do you guys have any idea why it's decreasing so much?
I've noticed that there's a few more big miners merge mining devcoin. My pool used to get 90% of the blocks, now it's less than 40%. The other miners are probably dumping the coins since I'm not aware of any other pools distributing devcoins to users.
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May 30, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
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Well now would be the time to stock up so you can spend them on the ad network Cheesy which we are setting up as an offshoot of the devcoin sites.

I am really looking forward to the ad network!!
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May 30, 2013, 02:29:44 AM
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Well now would be the time to stock up so you can spend them on the ad network Cheesy which we are setting up as an offshoot of the devcoin sites.

I am really looking forward to the ad network!!

I've seen others mention this ad network.  What is it exactly?  How and why would one spend their devcoins on it?  TIA.

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May 30, 2013, 03:12:42 AM
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Well now would be the time to stock up so you can spend them on the ad network Cheesy which we are setting up as an offshoot of the devcoin sites.

I am really looking forward to the ad network!!

I've seen others mention this ad network.  What is it exactly?  How and why would one spend their devcoins on it?  TIA.

As far as i know it is a PPC (Pay Per Click) advertising network where Devcoins can be used to purchase advertising and Devcoins can be earned if you are a publisher displaying ads. If you have a website to promote you will want to spend your Devcoins there Smiley

Devcoin can obviously promote itself and its projects to the entire network as the owner of the network too Smiley
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