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[ManeBjorn]

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That was perfect.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Great quote, but we've already seen enough stupidity in bitcoin and we're about due for some more malice...

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[ak49er]

This total lack of variance over the last 24 hours is eerie.  I think I want to complain. 

[Soros Shorts]

Payback time would be when min share difficulty on every pool is greater than a UINT32. That's when they can take their crap hardware and shove it ...

[kendog77]

I have heard that Spondoolies is testing their miners in pools right now.  I have also heard buzzing about the fact that they are not yielding as many solved shares as should be theoretically possible.  Could this be because of a hardware bug in their chips? 

Source?

[Joshwaa]

I suspect they knew they had a problem, but I doubt they had any clue how to fix it.

Either way I think there's little that can be done.  And I for one am not going to demand their heads on a silver platter.

What kind of bitcoiner are you?  Don't you know that in these parts, everybody is all pro-anonymity...until you don't like them, in which case it's only reasonable to demand that a user's information be given out publicly to an angry mob?

Maybe I should switch from bitcoin miner to pitchfork manufacturer?

So long as you take preorders for forks at a price that never allow you to pick up enough hay to...

This caused me to have a laughing fit in the middle of my office. Thank con

[stan258]

I have heard that Spondoolies is testing their miners in pools right now.  I have also heard buzzing about the fact that they are not yielding as many solved shares as should be theoretically possible.  Could this be because of a hardware bug in their chips?  

Source?

I asked Spondoolies about this ^^^^



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.new;topicseen#new


The word on the street is that public pools are under block withholding attacks.  Malice it is.  

[DPoS]

As one of the loudest voices accusing DPoS of pointlessly crying wolf, I wanted to publicly apologize for doing so.

Also, thanks to Eleuthria for doing the sleuthing to find the problem. I realize it's an ongoing issue and not necessarily settled, but I wanted to own up to being reactionary while the broader issue was still being discussed.

Thanks - I'm just playing my role as the guy that goes to a town that has 50 kids crying wolf and then telling them there really is a wolf in town now..  that's my torch to bear

then the town usually goes into these stages:

Fallout (blame, compensation, etc)
Ramifications (questioning awareness & prevention)
Reflection (are we still in Kansas anymore?)

[zvisha]

I have heard that Spondoolies is testing their miners in pools right now.  I have also heard buzzing about the fact that they are not yielding as many solved shares as should be theoretically possible.  Could this be because of a hardware bug in their chips? 

Source?

It is requires special logic in ASIC to withhold winning blocks in HW while keeping the non winning blocks.
It is relatively easy to withhold winning blocks on any miner in SW.
We are open source miner.  We compile official Con's cgminer from his repository in our official image. Of course, anyone can compile block-withholding SW for our miners, but the official image that we release and test does not do it.

Regards`
 

[fubly]

I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin. What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

[os2sam]

I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins...snip... What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price.

And what "extreme change" would you propose.

[ak49er]

The word on the street is that public pools are under block withholding attacks.  Malice it is.

Is this the same street that says Elvis is still alive?  It's still all rumors at this point.

If you have a miner that CAN'T solve a block, then you need to point it at a pool to at least get some return, even though you're bringing everyone's earnings down including your own.

If you have a miner that CAN solve a block I still can't see a scenario where it makes any kind of economic sense to stage an attack of this kind.

If you have a miner that COULD solve a block but ISN'T and you don't know why, then you'd put it into a pool.  If and when you figure it out and fix it you'll pull it from the pool.

My pet theory based on my Magic 8 Ball is that it's the last of the three.  Maybe.  But I might change my mind tomorrow.

[ManeBjorn]

There are some power sipping beasts on the horizon.  I just interviewed a company about one a little while ago.
I should have that ready for Amsterdam.
But you are right we are at a tipping point.

I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin. What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

[os2sam]

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There are some power sipping beasts on the horizon.  I just interviewed a company about one a little while ago.
I should have that ready for Amsterdam.
But you are right we are at a tipping point.

I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin. What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

is very confusing

[DPoS]

current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?

[stan258]

current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?

Last Block has been over 5 shifts......

[eleuthria]

current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?

I reset the stats on the accounts that were frozen, because they've fixed the issue (confirmed solved blocks on Eligius with the same wallet as their Guild account).  I want to make sure I can accurately gauge their shares vs block solves.  Their accounts are disabled from receiving any payouts at the moment.

Kinda screwed up the pool speed calculation, trying to tweak that.

Before anybody says it:  No, they are not mining on the pool right now.  We're just stuck on a block at the moment.  ~5x current diff in shares submitted since the last solve.

[yochdog]

current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?

Does this mean we are donating BTC to the network?   

[dropt]

I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin.

Mining reward/cost will always trend towards 1.  

What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

I disagree.  What we need is an end to the influx of new miners thinking that this is a game to get rich while doing very little.  There is absolutely no reason people should be making off with thousands of dollars a month for turning on some electronics hardware and doing little, if anything, else.

Only those with old hardware in high electrical rate areas will have to shut down.  Those who have cheap efficient HW in lower cost areas will be able to continue mining.

[stan258]

The word on the street is that public pools are under block withholding attacks.  Malice it is.

Is this the same street that says Elvis is still alive?  It's still all rumors at this point.

If you have a miner that CAN'T solve a block, then you need to point it at a pool to at least get some return, even though you're bringing everyone's earnings down including your own.

If you have a miner that CAN solve a block I still can't see a scenario where it makes any kind of economic sense to stage an attack of this kind.

If you have a miner that COULD solve a block but ISN'T and you don't know why, then you'd put it into a pool.  If and when you figure it out and fix it you'll pull it from the pool.

My pet theory based on my Magic 8 Ball is that it's the last of the three.  Maybe.  But I might change my mind tomorrow.

If you look at Eligius 7.7 PH about what we have and they are on a 9 HR block as well.  15PH can’t get a solution in 9 hrs is the street I am on.




Edit... F Elvis he does not pay my bills. 

[sickpig]

If you look at Eligius 7.7 PH about what we have and they are on a 9 HR block as well.  15PH can’t get a solution in 9 hrs is the street I am on.




Edit... F Elvis he does not pay my bills.  

it's not true, their stat page is momentarily screwed (look at the big red alert near the top)

the last block the mined:

https://blockchain.info/it/block-index/402256/0000000000000000761cdffad5de63add6c0e1bfda668b3ae168d5bca1671f11