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Author Topic: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly  (Read 57253 times)
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April 14, 2019, 08:57:24 AM
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R9 390 works?

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April 14, 2019, 09:06:10 AM
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Very nice finding!

BTW I managed to reach 51.6mh, but in CN-R I can't get past 2150h/s no matter what i try.
What is the trick there?

at what clocks on cnr?
1100 mem, 1500 core
I just raised the core, hr went up to ~2200, but that is the max.

But maybe the miner sw is not the fastest on CN-R, it's a fork of XMRig.
Going to try TRM

Update: with teamredminer on default setting it's 2300 h/s Smiley

okay.  was gonna mention we're most likely limited on core freq on cnr.
2500+ is possible but with very high core oc of 1.75 Mhz.  Making it lot less efficient.

The current public TRM release isn't the best for these modded timings with tightened latency. That said, it's most probably better than all other options Smiley. We're working on a version that we believe will take better advantage of the new fancy pants tools though. With a high core clk you can compensate and reach those max perf hashrates anyway, but with my current working version I'm doing 2318 h/s using 1407@900/1107@900, so those higher core clks aren't necessary. Note: this is on a Vega 64 LC, which can handle the super tight timings much better than my 8 x Vega 56 flashed 64.

Running a ton of tests on those Vega 56s flashed 64 tonight, feels like this new dimension will increase the complexity a lot. It was never trivial to truly trim those Vega rigs for efficiency and get everything rock solid stable, and with the additional degrees of freedom available now, man...


So, Rig with 6 Vega 64 about 1320 Watts + fan, Mobo.= 1420 and sometimes fluctuates to ...
Imagine the power socket  could handle max  in Ampere ? Could triggered burn at Cable and Socket

Well, it's always the same story when new shiny tools come out: first it's the max-perf circus, trying to break the world record in hashrate on a single Vega 64 (which is fun in itself  Grin), then the more efficiency-focused tuning takes over. We've just seen the beginning of the journey for Vega timings imho.
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April 14, 2019, 10:10:42 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.
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April 14, 2019, 10:27:39 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

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April 14, 2019, 11:22:41 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.
latest 19.4.1 drivers. win10
vega64 lc ~1360/1100@875 51.4mhs with claymore 12. But hbm temp is hot 70C and one weaker vega gives sometimes red incorrect shares

22.3 kh/s trtl, testing for pool speed and hw errors
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April 14, 2019, 11:35:44 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

What about Vega 56 Samsung and Hynix ?
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April 14, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

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April 14, 2019, 11:48:40 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.
latest 19.4.1 drivers. win10
vega64 lc ~1360/1100@875 51.4mhs with claymore 12. But hbm temp is hot 70C and one weaker vega gives sometimes red incorrect shares

22.3 kh/s trtl, testing for pool speed and hw errors

Power Consumption at HW info ?
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April 14, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.
latest 19.4.1 drivers. win10
vega64 lc ~1360/1100@875 51.4mhs with claymore 12. But hbm temp is hot 70C and one weaker vega gives sometimes red incorrect shares

22.3 kh/s trtl, testing for pool speed and hw errors

Power Consumption at HW info ?
150 for eth and 135 for trtl
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April 14, 2019, 03:25:15 PM
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Anyone can helping for me?
I have two RX580 (Asus ROG-STRIX o8g and Asus Dual-OC-4g), and I dont know how to do it... Sad

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GPU 0:  Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]     pci:0000:01:00.0
CAS  CL: 23          W2R: 16         CCDS: 5         CCLD: 2         R2W: 28         NOPR: 0         NOPW: 0
RAS  RC: 70          RRD: 6          RCDRA: 26       RCDR: 26        RCDWA: 21       RCDW: 21
MISC  RFC: 192        TRP: 26         RP_RDA: 29      RP_WRA: 62
MISC2  WDATATR: 0      T32AW: 0        CRCWL: 25       CRCRL: 3        FAW: 0          PA2WDATA: 0     PA2RDATA: 0
DRAM1  RASMACTWR: 6    RASMACTRD: 5    ACTWR: 2        ACTRD: 3
DRAM2  RAS2RAS: 3      RP: 2   WRPLUSRP: 5     BUS_TURN: 6

GPU 1:  Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]     pci:0000:04:00.0
CAS  CL: 20          W2R: 15         CCDS: 5         CCLD: 2         R2W: 26         NOPR: 0         NOPW: 0
RAS  RC: 60          RRD: 5          RCDRA: 22       RCDR: 24        RCDWA: 13       RCDW: 12
MISC  RFC: 97         TRP: 22         RP_RDA: 24      RP_WRA: 44
MISC2  WDATATR: 0      T32AW: 0        CRCWL: 22       CRCRL: 3        FAW: 0          PA2WDATA: 0     PA2RDATA: 0
DRAM1  RASMACTWR: 25   RASMACTRD: 22   ACTWR: 10       ACTRD: 13
DRAM2  RAS2RAS: 13     RP: 10          WRPLUSRP: 22    BUS_TURN: 25

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April 14, 2019, 03:40:49 PM
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Anyone can helping for me?
I have two RX580 (Asus ROG-STRIX o8g and Asus Dual-OC-4g), and I dont know how to do it... Sad

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GPU 0:  Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]     pci:0000:01:00.0
CAS  CL: 23          W2R: 16         CCDS: 5         CCLD: 2         R2W: 28         NOPR: 0         NOPW: 0
RAS  RC: 70          RRD: 6          RCDRA: 26       RCDR: 26        RCDWA: 21       RCDW: 21
MISC  RFC: 192        TRP: 26         RP_RDA: 29      RP_WRA: 62
MISC2  WDATATR: 0      T32AW: 0        CRCWL: 25       CRCRL: 3        FAW: 0          PA2WDATA: 0     PA2RDATA: 0
DRAM1  RASMACTWR: 6    RASMACTRD: 5    ACTWR: 2        ACTRD: 3
DRAM2  RAS2RAS: 3      RP: 2   WRPLUSRP: 5     BUS_TURN: 6

GPU 1:  Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]     pci:0000:04:00.0
CAS  CL: 20          W2R: 15         CCDS: 5         CCLD: 2         R2W: 26         NOPR: 0         NOPW: 0
RAS  RC: 60          RRD: 5          RCDRA: 22       RCDR: 24        RCDWA: 13       RCDW: 12
MISC  RFC: 97         TRP: 22         RP_RDA: 24      RP_WRA: 44
MISC2  WDATATR: 0      T32AW: 0        CRCWL: 22       CRCRL: 3        FAW: 0          PA2WDATA: 0     PA2RDATA: 0
DRAM1  RASMACTWR: 25   RASMACTRD: 22   ACTWR: 10       ACTRD: 13
DRAM2  RAS2RAS: 13     RP: 10          WRPLUSRP: 22    BUS_TURN: 25

Thanks!

You can try some of my pimped strap timings for Hynix:

rus_mod hynix

-i 0 --cl 18 --w2r 15 --r2w 25 --rc 61 --rrd 5 --rcdra 20 --rcdr 22 --rcdwa 13 --rcdw 12 --rfc 136 --trp 17 --rp_rda 25 --rp_wra 56 --t32aw 0 --crcwl 6 --crcrl 2 --faw 0 --pa2wdata 0 --pa2rdata 0 --RASMACTWR 47 --RASMACTRD 41 --ACTWR 15 --ACTRD 16 --RAS2RAS 148 --rp 39 --wrplusrp 49 --bus_turn 22


rus_mod2 hynix

-i 0 --cl 18 --w2r 15 --r2w 25 --rc 61 --rrd 5 --rcdra 20 --rcdr 22 --rcdwa 13 --rcdw 12 --rfc 197 --trp 15 --rp_rda 30 --rp_wra 60 --t32aw 0 --crcwl 6 --crcrl 2 --faw 0 --pa2wdata 0 --pa2rdata 0 --RASMACTWR 47 --RASMACTRD 41 --ACTWR 15 --ACTRD 16 --RAS2RAS 148 --rp 39 --wrplusrp 49 --bus_turn 22


rus_mod3 hynix

-i 0 --cl 18 --w2r 17 --r2w 25 --rc 61 --rrd 5 --rcdra 20 --rcdr 20 --rcdwa 14 --rcdw 14 --rfc 148 --trp 19 --rp_rda 22 --rp_wra 48 --t32aw 0 --crcwl 6 --crcrl 2 --faw 0 --pa2wdata 0 --pa2rdata 0 --RASMACTWR 47 --RASMACTRD 41 --ACTWR 15 --ACTRD 16 --RAS2RAS 148 --rp 39 --wrplusrp 49 --bus_turn 22

But for me this tool is unnusable because when applying timings it gives artifacts and crashes driver no matter which timings i apply (Polaris - rx570 & rx580).
I got the values by decoding hex values of timings with R_Timing1.03 tool.
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April 14, 2019, 03:50:49 PM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.
latest 19.4.1 drivers. win10
vega64 lc ~1360/1100@875 51.4mhs with claymore 12. But hbm temp is hot 70C and one weaker vega gives sometimes red incorrect shares

22.3 kh/s trtl, testing for pool speed and hw errors

Power Consumption at HW info ?
150 for eth and 135 for trtl

I'm testing it on my both 6 and 5 card rigs.
On the 6 card rig power consumption went up from 1155W to 1205W for roughly 10% hashrate gain (these are the worse silicon GPU-s, 3 of those running on 0.85V, 1 on 0.8375, last 2 on 0.825V).
Unfortunately currently there is no watt meter on the 5 card rig.
I will update about the stability.

What happen with the timings when you reboot?
If it stays after reboot, how do you set the timings back to the default values?
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April 14, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

Working good so far. Using this on a dozen Vega 64s on turtle.
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April 14, 2019, 04:27:01 PM
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-i 0 --cl 18 --w2r 17 --r2w 25 --rc 61 --rrd 5 --rcdra 20 --rcdr 20 --rcdwa 14 --rcdw 14 --rfc 148 --trp 19 --rp_rda 22 --rp_wra 48 --t32aw 0 --crcwl 6 --crcrl 2 --faw 0 --pa2wdata 0 --pa2rdata 0 --RASMACTWR 47 --RASMACTRD 41 --ACTWR 15 --ACTRD 16 --RAS2RAS 148 --rp 39 --wrplusrp 49 --bus_turn 22

But for me this tool is unnusable because when applying timings it gives artifacts and crashes driver no matter which timings i apply (Polaris - rx570 & rx580).
I got the values by decoding hex values of timings with R_Timing1.03 tool.

Probably edit the -i 0 part.  It might not be the actual GPU and someone might accidentally apply it on some other GPU.
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April 14, 2019, 04:28:00 PM
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What happen with the timings when you reboot?

They vanish into the void. except for FAW afaik Tongue
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April 14, 2019, 04:36:06 PM
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What happen with the timings when you reboot?

They vanish into the void. except for FAW afaik Tongue

why would faw be stuck.  it should all revert back to stock timings.
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why would faw be stuck.  it should all revert back to stock timings.

Someone posted it earlier that it remains.
Of course only when rebooting without cutting power.

Update: just to mention that I can't test all algos with the same driver under win10.
18.6.1 is faster in CN algos, but much slower than 19.3.3 in argon2d for example.
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April 14, 2019, 06:59:21 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm happy to see that users are finally posting their results and values here Smiley

I edited the OP with some of these posts by users.

Again, i'm pleased to see community effort again.


I also just released a new version with a bunch of new values to play with ;-)

Have fun!

Cheerio!

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April 14, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
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This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

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samsung memory?

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Hey guys,

I'm happy to see that users are finally posting their results and values here Smiley

I edited the OP with some of these posts by users.

Again, i'm pleased to see community effort again.


I also just released a new version with a bunch of new values to play with ;-)

Have fun!

Cheerio!

Thank you so much for your efforts and work!


This is my lighter timing, hopefully stable:
--CL 19 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 13 --RRDS 5 --RRDL 5 --RTP 4 --FAW 18 --CWL 6 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 15 --WRRD 1 --RDWR 18 --REF 17000 --RFC 248

please test it.

Here is the test:
- gpu 0,1 are vega red dragons 56 with Hynix (bad), flashed to 64, gpu 1450/1100 and 1450/950,  all at 800mv ram/core on ONT, and 0,875 on gpuz - they directly crashed, so now work with:

--rc 45 --rcdrd 12 --rcdwr 5 --faw 16

- gpu 2,3,4 vega 56 reference, flashed to 64, 1450/1100, all at 800mv ram/core on ONT, and 0,875 on gpuz
- they work with your settings

https://i.imgur.com/I7uBLRw.png

before 1070W from wall, no 1090W

P.S.
eth:
1190W from the wall

https://i.ibb.co/RPBJYWx/Capture.png
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