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December 24, 2020, 08:51:18 AM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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December 24, 2020, 08:39:36 PM
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Hey guys, I need help to achieve 43MH/s+ at RX 5600 XT Asrock Challenger D. I´m only getting 38 in 1100 core @ 800mv and 1800 mem. What times I need to use? Thanks
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December 26, 2020, 01:17:52 AM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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December 27, 2020, 01:41:40 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.
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December 27, 2020, 04:19:40 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.

My Vega56 is on : 
1090 core
1020 mem
0.812 v
Gets me 53.19mhs on mmpos non modded bios.

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December 28, 2020, 11:03:34 AM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.

My Vega56 is on : 
1090 core
1020 mem
0.812 v
Gets me 53.19mhs on mmpos non modded bios.



it seems that mmpos uses amdmemtweak timings by default ))
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December 28, 2020, 01:45:27 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
with linux and atitool
Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.

My Vega56 is on : 
1090 core
1020 mem
0.812 v
Gets me 53.19mhs on mmpos non modded bios.



it seems that mmpos uses amdmemtweak timings by default ))

yes all that built right in Smiley
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December 28, 2020, 08:47:34 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
with linux and atitool
Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.

My Vega56 is on :  
1090 core
1020 mem
0.812 v
Gets me 53.19mhs on mmpos non modded bios.



it seems that mmpos uses amdmemtweak timings by default ))

yes all that built right in Smiley
Where you set the smart tune(low,mid,high)?
Miner is Teamredminer?
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December 28, 2020, 10:23:21 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Can you please explain how do you go below 800 mV? Smiley
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Which miner, what memtweak settings?
I have 6xVega 56 sapphire REF. 56 bios, and max. is 50mhs. No run above 1070cc and /1027mc/mem 820v.

My Vega56 is on :  
1090 core
1020 mem
0.812 v
Gets me 53.19mhs on mmpos non modded bios.



it seems that mmpos uses amdmemtweak timings by default ))

yes all that built right in Smiley
Where you set the smart tune(low,mid,high)?
Miner is Teamredminer?

Miner is TeamRedMiner
Smart Tune to Custom
ras = 26 / rcdrd = 12 / rcdwr = 12 / rc = 38 / rp = 12 / rrds = 3 / rrdl = 5 / rtp = 6 / faw = 12 / cwl = 8 / wtrs = 4 / wtrl = 9 / wr = 13 / ref = 21100 / rfc = 239

This is on a Hynix Rev 1 MSI Blower.

Hope it helps ya.
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Last edit: December 31, 2020, 10:15:30 AM by th00ber
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Finally I have something interessting for my Vega 56 Hynix (default BIOS)
I tried a lot of timing but miner crash. This is my best result so far

EDIT : 50,4 MH/s with 1100 core and 970 mem for 120W.

TeamRedMiner - 49.5 MH/s 1075@850 core 960@850 mem (117W reported in OS)

My default ASUS Strix Vega 56 (Hynix)

GPU 5:  Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]    pci:0000:08:00.0                                                                                                        
Memory state: 800MHz                                                                                                                                                    
Memory: Hynix HBM2                                                                                                                                                      
Memory vendor and model 63AB1A9C                                                                                                                                        
Timing 1:         CL: 18          RAS: 24         RCDRD: 22       RCDWR: 10                                                                                            
Timing 2:         RCAb (RC): 37   RCPb (RC): 37   RPAb (RP): 13   RPPb (RP): 13                                                                                        
Timing 3:         RRDS: 3         RRDL: 3         RTP: 6                                                                                                                
Timing 4:         FAW: 13                                                                                                                                              
Timing 5:         CWL: 6          WTRS: 4         WTRL: 4                                                                                                              
Timing 6:         WR: 12                                                                                                                                                
Timing 7:         RREFD: 7                                                                                                                                              
Timing 8:         RDRDDD: 3       RDRDSD: 2       RDRDSC: 1       RDRDSCL: 3                                                                                            
Timing 9:         WRWRDD: 3       WRWRSD: 2       WRWRSC: 1       WRWRSCL: 3                                                                                            
Timing 10:        WRRD: 1         RDWR: 18                                                                                                                              
Timing 12:        REF: 3200                                                                                                                                            
Timing 13:        MRD: 4          MOD: 12                                                                                                                              
Timing 14:        XS: 216                                                                                                                                              
Timing 16:        XSMRS: 216                                                                                                                                            
Timing 17:        PD: 7           CKSRE: 8        CKSRX: 8                                                                                                              
Timing 20:        RFCPB: 96       STAG: 7                                                                                                                              
Timing 21:        XP: 7           CPDED: 2        CKE: 7                                                                                                                
Timing 22:        RDDATA: 17      WRLAT: 4        RDLAT: 14       WRDATA: 1                                                                                            
Timing 23:        CKESTAG: 2                                                                                                                                            
RFC Timing:       RFC: 176

Optimized
amdmemtweak --RAS 22 --RCDRD 16 --RCDWR 13 --RC 35 --RP 13 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 5 --RFC 148 --REF 15600

GPU 5:  Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]    pci:0000:08:00.0                                                                                                        
Memory state: 800MHz                                                                                                                                                    
Memory: Hynix HBM2                                                                                                                                                      
Memory vendor and model 63AB1A9C                                                                                                                                        
Timing 1:         CL: 18          RAS: 22         RCDRD: 16       RCDWR: 13                                                                                            
Timing 2:         RCAb (RC): 35   RCPb (RC): 35   RPAb (RP): 13   RPPb (RP): 13                                                                                        
Timing 3:         RRDS: 3         RRDL: 5         RTP: 6                                                                                                                
Timing 4:         FAW: 13                                                                                                                                              
Timing 5:         CWL: 6          WTRS: 4         WTRL: 4                                                                                                              
Timing 6:         WR: 12                                                                                                                                                
Timing 7:         RREFD: 7                                                                                                                                              
Timing 8:         RDRDDD: 3       RDRDSD: 2       RDRDSC: 1       RDRDSCL: 3                                                                                            
Timing 9:         WRWRDD: 3       WRWRSD: 2       WRWRSC: 1       WRWRSCL: 3                                                                                            
Timing 10:        WRRD: 1         RDWR: 18                                                                                                                              
Timing 12:        REF: 15600                                                                                                                                            
Timing 13:        MRD: 4          MOD: 12                                                                                                                              
Timing 14:        XS: 216                                                                                                                                              
Timing 16:        XSMRS: 216                                                                                                                                            
Timing 17:        PD: 7           CKSRE: 8        CKSRX: 8                                                                                                              
Timing 20:        RFCPB: 96       STAG: 7                                                                                                                              
Timing 21:        XP: 7           CPDED: 2        CKE: 7                                                                                                                
Timing 22:        RDDATA: 17      WRLAT: 4        RDLAT: 14       WRDATA: 1                                                                                            
Timing 23:        CKESTAG: 2                                                                                                                                            
RFC Timing:       RFC: 148
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December 31, 2020, 10:50:08 PM
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Hey guys,

There are some days that I´m trying to reach a stable config for my RX Vega 56 MSI Air Boost, Hynix memory (blower), the most stable results is in Simplemining OS, but the results are pretty much the same in the MMP OS (lately I faced some drivers errors in the second one, [amdgpu yada-yada-yada]).

46.65 MH/s, 322 accepted shares and 8 hw errors until now. Team Red Miner. 47MH/s at pool.

If I go mV down, even only 10mV, it gets a lot hw errors. If I go only 5 MHz mem up, it gets a lot of errors. The same thing for --rcdwr, for 17 and down that, a lot of errors too.

Core 1050@900mV, mem 900. 137 W in software, 180W at the wall. 90% fan and mem working about 74ºC.

amdmemorytweak --i 1 --cl 18 --ras 23 --rcdrd 18 --rcdwr 11 --rc 34 --rp 13 --rrds 3 --rrdl 4 --rtp 6 --faw 12 --cwl 7 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 4 --wr 11  --rfc 164 --REF 17000

Anyone that faced some similar problems or similar hardware that could help me with this? Thanks a lot!
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Hey guys,

There are some days that I´m trying to reach a stable config for my RX Vega 56 MSI Air Boost, Hynix memory (blower), the most stable results is in Simplemining OS, but the results are pretty much the same in the MMP OS (lately I faced some drivers errors in the second one, [amdgpu yada-yada-yada]).

46.65 MH/s, 322 accepted shares and 8 hw errors until now. Team Red Miner. 47MH/s at pool.

If I go mV down, even only 10mV, it gets a lot hw errors. If I go only 5 MHz mem up, it gets a lot of errors. The same thing for --rcdwr, for 17 and down that, a lot of errors too.

Core 1050@900mV, mem 900. 137 W in software, 180W at the wall. 90% fan and mem working about 74ºC.

amdmemorytweak --i 1 --cl 18 --ras 23 --rcdrd 18 --rcdwr 11 --rc 34 --rp 13 --rrds 3 --rrdl 4 --rtp 6 --faw 12 --cwl 7 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 4 --wr 11  --rfc 164 --REF 17000

Anyone that faced some similar problems or similar hardware that could help me with this? Thanks a lot!

Hi, having similar issues, having 3x Sapphire Nitro+ (Hynix) in a rig where I've successfully ran 9xRX570 before without any issues. I was able to successfully OC memories to 960MHz, 930MHz and 950Mhz but I haven't used any mem strapping, just increased REF to 65535 and I got around 44MH/s. When I tried to mimic your settings on my cards, 2 of them got only 41MH/s and third one (after cca 30s) crashed.

I'm not an expert on tuning memory straps but have tried all different will-work-for-sure-on-your-Vega56-Hynix settings and none of them worked for me.
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January 04, 2021, 11:28:41 AM
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Hey guys,

There are some days that I´m trying to reach a stable config for my RX Vega 56 MSI Air Boost, Hynix memory (blower), the most stable results is in Simplemining OS, but the results are pretty much the same in the MMP OS (lately I faced some drivers errors in the second one, [amdgpu yada-yada-yada]).

46.65 MH/s, 322 accepted shares and 8 hw errors until now. Team Red Miner. 47MH/s at pool.

If I go mV down, even only 10mV, it gets a lot hw errors. If I go only 5 MHz mem up, it gets a lot of errors. The same thing for --rcdwr, for 17 and down that, a lot of errors too.

Core 1050@900mV, mem 900. 137 W in software, 180W at the wall. 90% fan and mem working about 74ºC.

amdmemorytweak --i 1 --cl 18 --ras 23 --rcdrd 18 --rcdwr 11 --rc 34 --rp 13 --rrds 3 --rrdl 4 --rtp 6 --faw 12 --cwl 7 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 4 --wr 11  --rfc 164 --REF 17000

Anyone that faced some similar problems or similar hardware that could help me with this? Thanks a lot!

Hi, having similar issues, having 3x Sapphire Nitro+ (Hynix) in a rig where I've successfully ran 9xRX570 before without any issues. I was able to successfully OC memories to 960MHz, 930MHz and 950Mhz but I haven't used any mem strapping, just increased REF to 65535 and I got around 44MH/s. When I tried to mimic your settings on my cards, 2 of them got only 41MH/s and third one (after cca 30s) crashed.

I'm not an expert on tuning memory straps but have tried all different will-work-for-sure-on-your-Vega56-Hynix settings and none of them worked for me.

try this

WinAMDTweak.exe --RAS 26 --rp 14 --rc 35 --rfc 170 --rrds 4 --rrdl 5 --rcdrd 19 --rcdwr 7 --REF 15600

i have vega56 nitro+ hynix and this is middle setings. 45-46MH.
6*vega56 use  1100W on the wall.

https://images2.imgbox.com/11/9a/jWHim0DA_o.jpg

if you wona beter HR just  use 1100 -1200 GPU clock and give more  power etc 900mv
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January 04, 2021, 06:02:21 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Hello RednoW,

Could you share your settings ? I want to get better efficiency.

I let my miner running for month without any modification.
I'm between 46 and 50 mh per vega with 130W display in phoenix miner ( 56 with 64 bios).

My settings are now :
Windows 10
Adrenaline 18.6.1
Vega 56 with  64 bios
PPT tables
Running at 991/850mv 1080/850mv
Old tweak with amd mem tweak.

I tried to update driver but I cannot use PPT with them so consumption increase a lot.

Any advice ?

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January 04, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
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should be 54.9mhs 1100/1026@787mv @ 112watts ...

Hello RednoW,

Could you share your settings ? I want to get better efficiency.

I let my miner running for month without any modification.
I'm between 46 and 50 mh per vega with 130W display in phoenix miner ( 56 with 64 bios).

My settings are now :
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Adrenaline 18.6.1
Vega 56 with  64 bios
PPT tables
Running at 991/850mv 1080/850mv
Old tweak with amd mem tweak.

I tried to update driver but I cannot use PPT with them so consumption increase a lot.

Any advice ?

best wishes

On Raveos + amdmemtweak --i [tid] --CL 20 --RAS 20 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 12 --RC 37 --RP 11 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 6 --RTP 5 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 65535 --RFC 248
you can get 56+

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On Raveos + amdmemtweak --i [tid] --CL 20 --RAS 20 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 12 --RC 37 --RP 11 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 6 --RTP 5 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 65535 --RFC 248
you can get 56+

You should rephrase that and write: "On any distro + amdmemtweak {....} you can get 56+ if you've got some silicon lottery winners."
Every "mining OS" out there is a Linux distro with some scripts here and there.
Even some of them have kernel modifications (the exceptions out there), some of them will give you some extra options, and so on.

In the end, no "Mining OS" is that special that it'll give you a crazy hash rate increase over any competitors.


Just as a note to other people reading this thread.

Don't go crazy over a few MH, some GPUs will simply not make it, some came of the side of the wafer and unfortunately are of worse quality compared to its sisters.
Then there's the revision, the later revisions are slightly better than the first ones and will reach higher hash rates much easier.

And then I'm not even talking about the memory vendor, where there's also a huge difference...

As a nice last example, I've got a 5700 here that is running 63Mh stable, then I've got another one, same model that has issues maintaining 57Mh..
Just saying  Wink


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As a nice last example, I've got a 5700 here that is running 63Mh stable...

Well now I have a new goal Wink

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Hey guys, how do I get the settings to stay after a reboot?
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On Raveos + amdmemtweak --i [tid] --CL 20 --RAS 20 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 12 --RC 37 --RP 11 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 6 --RTP 5 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 65535 --RFC 248
you can get 56+

You should rephrase that and write: "On any distro + amdmemtweak {....} you can get 56+ if you've got some silicon lottery winners."
Every "mining OS" out there is a Linux distro with some scripts here and there.
Even some of them have kernel modifications (the exceptions out there), some of them will give you some extra options, and so on.

In the end, no "Mining OS" is that special that it'll give you a crazy hash rate increase over any competitors.


Just as a note to other people reading this thread.

Don't go crazy over a few MH, some GPUs will simply not make it, some came of the side of the wafer and unfortunately are of worse quality compared to its sisters.
Then there's the revision, the later revisions are slightly better than the first ones and will reach higher hash rates much easier.

And then I'm not even talking about the memory vendor, where there's also a huge difference...

As a nice last example, I've got a 5700 here that is running 63Mh stable, then I've got another one, same model that has issues maintaining 57Mh..
Just saying  Wink


Cheers!



hi Elio, what settings should I make to get 63mh on my 5700 ?
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Last edit: January 14, 2021, 02:54:44 PM by dirtriderdan
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Can anyone advise what line I should be using for the following?

root@Rig1:~# amdmemtweak --current                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
GPU 0:  Vega 10 XL/XT [Radeon RX Vega 56/64]    pci:0000:06:00.0                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Memory state: 800MHz                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Memory: Samsung HBM2                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Memory vendor and model 61AB1A9C                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Timing 1:         CL: 17          RAS: 27         RCDRD: 13       RCDWR: 8                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 2:         RCAb (RC): 39   RCPb (RC): 39   RPAb (RP): 12   RPPb (RP): 12                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Timing 3:         RRDS: 4         RRDL: 5         RTP: 5                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Timing 4:         FAW: 13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 5:         CWL: 6          WTRS: 3         WTRL: 7                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 6:         WR: 13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Timing 7:         RREFD: 7                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 8:         RDRDDD: 3       RDRDSD: 2       RDRDSC: 1       RDRDSCL: 3                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Timing 9:         WRWRDD: 3       WRWRSD: 2       WRWRSC: 1       WRWRSCL: 3                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Timing 10:        WRRD: 1         RDWR: 17                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 12:        REF: 3120                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Timing 13:        MRD: 8          MOD: 12                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 14:        XS: 216                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 16:        XSMRS: 6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 17:        PD: 6           CKSRE: 8        CKSRX: 8                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 20:        RFCPB: 128      STAG: 7                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Timing 21:        XP: 6           CPDED: 2        CKE: 6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Timing 22:        RDDATA: 16      WRLAT: 4        RDLAT: 14       WRDATA: 1                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Timing 23:        CKESTAG: 2                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
RFC Timing:       RFC: 208  

So far the best I've attained is 43.5 Mh/s using:
amdmemtweak --CL 20 --RAS 20 --RCDRD 12 --RCDWR 12 --RC 37 --RP 11 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 6 --RTP 5 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 65535 --RFC 248

BIOS is stock.  I'm on HiveOS.  Just running the line above through the shell.  Not really sure what I'm doing yet.  Also the core and memory clocks aren't seeming to be changed even though I specify it in HiveOS.  So perhaps it is the lack of overclock and not the timings that is causing it to have low hashrate???
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